ngl i'll be hard if this happens to me
>>83436426this was me back in school, I always fought it, I dropped out and sorta wanna troon out now.help.
>>83436785>Dropped out of highschool >Wanna trooned outHow worse can it get?
>>83436820He goes through with it and they turbo botch it when they try turning his dick inside out
>>83436820yes.I'm torn between killing myself and trooning out.since I already wanna end it, why not try my shot at happiness and troon out first?
>>83436785>>83436838Brother, trying to convince others of something that you biologically will never be will never give you true happiness or joy. There is a reason why the suicide rate for transgender people are so high. Also, we're all going to age, and for those who end up becoming MtF trannies, or crossdressers or femboys or whatever, for those who pull through and don't succumb to the demon of suicide, they end up dropping the whole thing entirely. Us men, no-matter how non-masculine we may look or feel, are going to age, get wrinkles and become more and more "man" looking as we age, no matter if we may look like ugly lesbians because of our low T (lol, I speak for myself). Don't do it, anon. I hope you overcome those suicidal thoughts, but just know that trooning out will not give you true happiness, and will in-fact, make things way worse.
>>83436838Why not just be yourself?
>>83436856Finally someone who gets it. Thanks for the advice anon
>>83436426Why the fuck are you wearing a thong you faggot? Can't you just be normal?
>>83436426>>83436905Yeah OP you thong wearing fag boy
>>83436856I was called faggot my whole life, for looking like a low T fag, for being emotional and weak and somehow boys in school knew I was one way before me. I was always short, weak, too sensitive. I was bullied heavily. my sexuality is a huge mess. I have no idea how to move on.>>83436864what is myself?there is nothing.
>>83436911Don't listen to them man some men are effeminate and that is ok. It's been documented since the dawn of man. I will say don't expect trooning to fix all your problems and maybe explore your identity before you commit to permanent measures. Also maybe hang around people who are supportive of your alternative societal standards, everyone here is closeted
>>83436911>weak, too sensitiveHave thought not being one dummy> I was bullied heavily.It's your fault for not standing up for yourself sorry but this is the harsh truth anonI really don't understand trooning out won't solve any of this shit you are dealing with ironically it will get worst. you will start to hate yourself even more, and you gonna feel way more weak cause of the estro injection
>>83436928thank you. I tried being masculine, I sucked at it and it made me feel worse.I wish I had a boyfriend to help me with this and push me to transition. I feel like I could lead a happy life as a tranny.
>>83436894>Finally someone who gets it. Thanks for the advice anonYou're welcome, brother. Have a good day.>>83436911>I have no idea how to move on.You should move on, by forgiving all those who insulted you, and choose not to embrace a false identity that will never match the chromosomes you have been given. Trust me, in my opinion, I look like an ugly lesbian, but, what does it matter? Am I going to go ahead and embrace something that is inherently a lie, and destroy any sort of semblance of manhood that I still possess? No! Like I stated before, there is a reason why suicide is so common in transgender people. Look at the actor Ralph Macchio. For a long time in his life, he had the whole pretty boy look going on, yet he never trooned out. Yet, if he was growing up in our generation, I guarantee you'd have many people trying to brainwash him into the madness.
>>83436911>What is myself?There's always something. You were born a guy. Be a guy
>>83436911You need to be used as a fucktoy
>>83436911Ignore this lost soul here >>83436983Getting a dick shoved up your anus will not give you any joy or fulfillment in your life.
>>83436968a lie?what is that supposed to mean?>>83436980I failed at that, spectacularly.>>83436983I just wanna be loved.
>>83436838ask this here >>>lgbt
>>83437009>a lie?>what is that supposed to mean?That a man can be a woman, and that a woman can be a man. There are only 2 genders. A man cannot be a woman, nor can a woman be a man. No matter how masculine the woman is, no matter how feminine the man is, they will continue being the gender they were assigned to be. Regardless, if they decide to have surgery(s), or take hormones, or dress in clothing which is more suited for the opposite sex.
>>83437031Even if true, haven't you gotten tired of rehashing this on a daily basis for the past 10 years?
>>83437031I don't think I can become a woman, not a real one at least. but looking more like one might make me feel less bad. I might wanna try it at least, I got nothing to lose.
>>83437009>I just wanna be loved.Do you wanna loved by a man or a woman? Do you wanna be fucked in the ass and dominated?
>>83436983>get used like a fuck toy>posts the most gentle uneven gay buttsex I've ever seen>>83436995I'm glad you're psychic and can both read op's mind and tell the future, truly an oracle of our time>>83437009> I just wanna be lovedWe all do, but if you're gay and not acting on those thoughts and urges they have a tendency to express themselves as horrible anxieties and depression. If you go out of your way to date a woman and you turn out to be deeply closeted and repressed the only thing you'll get is awkward interactions and a sense of dissatisfaction. Unlike what the other anon said, if you ARE gay, regardless of being loved or hooking up, sex with a guy will be the only kind of sex that satisfies you - whether you pitch or catch.
>>83437036>Even if true, haven't you gotten tired of rehashing this on a daily basis for the past 10 years?It is true, my fellow anon. I just hope this OP doesn't fall for the transgender lies, because it will only wrap him up deeper in misery.>>83437046>I don't think I can become a woman, not a real one at least. but looking more like one might make me feel less bad. I might wanna try it at least, I got nothing to lose.Trust me, it won't.
>>83437080>I'm glad you're psychic and can both read op's mind and tell the future, truly an oracle of our timeI never claimed I was psychic, nor did I claim that I can read his mind or tell the future. I know for a fact, it won't give him joy or fulfillment. That does not make me psychic, nor does it mean I can read his mind or tell the future, it just means that I know that it will make him more miserable.
>>83437086I am not your fellow. You're disgusting trash. Not trans.
>>83437046>I don't think I can become a woman, not a real one at least. but looking more like one might make me feel less bad. I might wanna try it at least, I got nothing to lose.Try to be an intermediate between a woman and a man, something lovable. Girls can be a betraying bitch. Take your HRT, improve your headgame, develop that ass to be as good as a pussy and you're all set.
>>83437093>I am not your fellow. You're disgusting trash. Not trans.Jesus loves you.
>>83437076by a man and yes, I think so?>>83437080I guess by getting aroused from looking at your gif I can answer that I'm into men. and I know at least part of why I'm depressed is because of my sexuality. >>83437098thats the goal, or something like that.
>>83437009>I failed at that, spectacularlyHere's something you must know.As a man, the things we do, we do them not just because we want to or because we should.We do them because we have to. You have to be a man. You were born as one.Think about it. The system we live in is kept intact by hundreds of thousands of men working together. Someone has to do it. And they do it every single day. Now Imagine if they all decided to just leave everyone they do and give up. The entire system would fall. Corruption would be everywhere. People will start running each other over. For once go outside and observe around yourself. How peaceful it is. The reason you're even able to talk to other anons is because there are countless working to make sure communication stays up at all times. Do they want to do it? No. Should they do it? Not really. Yet they still do it. Why? Because they have to.>But anon it's hard, but anon I'm depressed and no one love.I know anon. I know. It sucks. It's painful and I just want it to be over. Yet I still continue to be a man. Because if I don't then everyone and everything I care about will fall right in front of me. Gone just like that. I have to be a man. And so do you anon.
>>83437106It's not all sexy boners, I would suggest going to /cm/ and browsing the kissing thread if there's one up. A yearning feeling, or maybe jealousy, when you look at two cute dudes smooching is a dead giveaway and a big sign that you may be better off looking for dates with guys.And please remember that you do not need to look like a woman or a girl to date a guy.
>>83437106There is no shame to take in accepting your sexuality. You like men, totally fine. There are men out there similar to you, and they are seeking their own likeness as well. So, you do not have to feel alienated just because of your sexuality.A bitter, hateful motherfucker, who is practically a loser in life who cannot connect with anybody, whose tongue is to be cut off as he spits nothing but poison, He is the one who should be ashamed and live his life like a rabid dog, not you. Never let any hateful fucker tell you anything dehumanizing because that subhuman scum itself is similar to bacteria, poisoning society.
>>83437260>There is no shame to take in accepting your sexuality.OP is confused. God can heal him from this inordinate and unnatural affection and desire.
>>83437298The only thing unnatural is your concern on God's behalf. If He has anything to say He can come His own ass down here and say it to op's face. But He won't because like you He's a lazy bitch that won't do shit.
>>83437510>The only thing unnatural is your concern on God's behalf. If He has anything to say He can come His own ass down here and say it to op's face.The Lord God already does that for many people. He grants conviction of sins to many people through godly sorrow. For godly sorrow produces repentance which leads to salvation. The Lord does not need to "come down and say it directly to OP's face", because He already does so, by godly sorrow and conviction, His Word that He has so graciously given us and by His grace. Many people who believed they were gay or trans, have turned to Christ, and Christ healed them of their unnatural affection, and took it from them. Jesus is a healer. I suggest you read Romans chapter 1 with a humble attitude. >But He won't because like you He's a lazy bitch that won't do shit.If you think I'm going to insult you back, I won't. I forgive you, and I hope that you know that Jesus Christ died for you, and He wants to set you free from this unnatural affection, because it will lead you to hell-fire if you do not repent.
>>83436856>but just know that trooning out will not give you true happiness, and will in-fact, make things way worse.troons factually have a lower suicide rate post transitions. You are basing your analysis on the flawed premise that living closer to the truth necessarly makes people happier.
>>83437556>because it will lead you to hell-fire if you do not repent.and you think there won't be consequences for punishing an upstanding and forthright man for true love? Please. When a good man goes to war devils run, and there is no bigger devil than him
>>83437568>troons factually have a lower suicide rate post transitions. You are basing your analysis on the flawed premise that living closer to the truth necessarly makes people happier.I'm not here to argue with you, friend. I just don't want another lost soul to embrace a false identity, and helplessly turn to suicide when the damage has been too great.
>>83437633Trooning out is a confortable lie for a subsect of mentally ill people.Much like christianity is the confortable falsehood that keeps you going.
>>83437623>and you think there won't be consequences for punishing an upstanding and forthright man for true love?The true love one would find is in Christ Jesus, not in something that is abominable in His eyes. You can embrace something that is abominable, but, know this, that God can take this unnatural affection away, and that He can heal the brokenness. There is a reason why many people who identify as anything within the LGBTQ sphere, have either been molested, exposed to pornographic filth at a young age, and among other things. The god of this age, wants to blind our minds, and make us embrace something that is abominable, so he can keep us away from the Lord Jesus.When you hit your lowest point in life, whenever it may be, I plead with you to call on His name, and He will touch your heart, and fill you with His presence, His peace, and He can heal your affliction and brokenness.
>>83437607It's mostly deduced out of suicide ideation and attempts rate.
>>83437664>Much like christianity is the confortable falsehood that keeps you going.You will come to know that Christianity that you call falsehood, is in fact very real. God loves you.
>>83437692God cannot love all and be all just under the premise that all human deserve hell.Either he would save everyone because he loves them all, or he would punish everyone because everybody deserves it.Him aplying special conditions implies a limitation to his powers (ei that he wants to save evryone but can't) which he can't because he's by definition omnipotent.
>>83437243>And please remember that you do not need to look like a woman or a girl to date a guy.I know, but it would feel better I think?>>83437260easier said than done, where I am in life, I would throw away everyone around me if I love who I love.
>>83437794You seem like you have life figured out, but then why are you still here? I always saw /r9k/ as the place where damaged people try to feel a little less alone.
>>83437868I think the big problem here is you think trooning out is easy and will result in being happy without much effort. This isnt true. Its not just injections and pills and a cheap Shein wig. You will still have to put in the work to look good and not like a freak. It doesn't seem like you have that fight or dedication in you
>>83437794>Either he would save everyone because he loves them all, or he would punish everyone because everybody deserves it.He loves us so much that He gave each and every one of us freewill, so, we can choose if we want to spend eternity with Him or not. He will not force anyone, to surrender to Him, and choose to obey Him; that wouldn't be very loving would it?Sometimes, all that is needed to find the Lord is by dropping on your knees with a humble heart, and seeking Him with everything. God loves you, anon.
>>83437993yea. it will probably suck ass at first, thats why I would want a bf to support me and push me to get better and put in the effort.I know it won't happen.taking care of myself is not the problem though, getting out of bed and beating depression is.
>>83436911>>83436838>>83436820wtf is wrong with your generation? 20 years ago you would be shooting up a school but now you want to be in ladyboy porn or something
>>83438093I don't like violenceis wanting love that bad? I wanna be female, and since I can't be that, I want to be what's closest to it.
Foids>OMG STOP HARASSING ME YOU FUCKING PERVERT HOW DARE YOU I WILL CALL THE POLICE AND SEE YOU GET RAPED IN PRISON YOU FUCKING CREEP!Fags(Bottoms)>Oh your looking at me like that um stop plz :3 oh your so much bigger than me but but Im not scared at all you bully yh take that bully Im a guy too!Trannies>OMG DONT LOOK AT ME YOU PERVE HEHEHEHEHHE <3Why the fuck are women programmed to send our species to extinction? What the actual fuck
>>83438004Forcefully saving somebody from great pain is loving.Like would you say a parent doesn't love his child if he forcefully takes away something that hurts him like drugs or porn.
>>83438163>Forcefully saving somebody from great pain is loving.Like I stated before, He gives us freewill on whether we want to submit to Him, and receive the free gift of salvation or not. We are all deserving of hellfire for our sins, but, God made a way that we may be reconciled to Him through His perfect Son, Jesus Christ.
>>83438199if we are all deserving of hellfire, than saving anyone is the ultimate injustice.
>>83438218>than saving anyone is the ultimate injusticeIt isn't. God loves us so much that He made a way to Him. We can be washed cleaned by His blood. If we confess our sins before Him, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.Look, I'm going to stop replying from you now, you can insult me, tell me I'm worthy of death, that I need to be murdered, etc, etc. That's fine with me. I just hope all goes well with you, man, and that one day you would come to know Him. I'm humble to admit, that I am deserving of death because of all the sins that I've done, but, that is why God's grace and mercy is so good. I lived the first 17 years of my life mocking God, thinking the Bible was a fairytale, but God had worked through me, and revealed Himself to me, and He has freed me from drug addiction, cigarette and weed addiction, self-harm, suicidal ideation and so much more. He is so good to me, despite me being a backslidden moron.
>>83438287If you are worthy of hell and God is just, he should send you to hell.Your beliefs aren't coherent with each other.
>>83438386>If you are worthy of hell and God is just, he should send you to hell.>Your beliefs aren't coherent with each other.Jesus loves you.
>>83436856Calling a woman "brother" is some seriously cringe shit. You look like a retard, kill yourself today. Do it before christmas and it'll be a gift to your family, your community, your country and the world.
>>83436426this was me growing up and i want to kill myself daily
>>83438148>programmed to send our species to extinctionthey are just programmed to get raped, how are they going to get raped if they don't resist at all? be serious
>>83438423so long as you bend the dick to him, anyway. you have to grovel and pay fealty and promise to be one of his specialest goodest boys for ever and ever to receive this divine mercy. if you dont do this then you're getting tortured forever. no exceptions
>>83436426>picThis never happened. And it's also OP's fetish
>>83438716I can relate.did you get sexually assaulted as well?>>83438995bro..
>>83439050i thankfully didnt. sorry that happened to you
>>83438716people asked you do you wear a bra? why?
>>83436983leave the asian male alone>>83436911we need south asian culture awareness. I'm sorry this happened to you, it's not your fault.
>>83439789how do you know he's south asian
>>83436838It's literally just some pills. You can be stealth otherwise
>>83436838That will make you even more suicidal. Try testosterone or antipsychotics instead.
>>83439789its a white tranny, i found the whole video
>>83440741what do you mean stealth?
>>83441354You don't have to tell anyone you're on HRT
>>83441448Why are you taking female sex hormones as a male?Shouldn't men take testosterone and women take estrogen?
>>83441448so boymode? you would have to hide the boobs though
>>83441472I'm not doing it myself, I'm not trans. Just saying it's an option.
>>83441472testosterone makes you ugly hairy and bald
>>83436426When I was in school, I'd always get confused for a guy, and it'd make me super embarrassed. Now I hate when anyone calls me masculine, androgynous or anything like that. People used to always call me a boy
>>83441494Testosterone makes you high energy, strong, and tall
>>83436911>somehow boys in school knew I was one way before meThey decided you were one for you. >my sexuality is a huge messYou 'take what you can get'.>what is myself? there is nothing.Very astute.>I have no idea how to move on.Get a self. You can never move on so long as who you are is defined by what goes in your ass, or whose ass you're going in, or to put it more correctly: you don't exist apart from your environment. >howGet out of your head, and get away from your childhood, your school peers and parents. Not necessarily physically, but that is always helpful, and is sometimes necessary. I can't tell you exactly what, as that would defeat the point but i can say you have to do something authentic. In attempting to do something authentic you will come to know yourself, or be claimed by the mountain, which shouldn't dissuade you considering you are considering giving yourself up to the abyss.
>>83436838why not just frot or sth with the type of person you like... you can do it as esex and then it's not more threatening than a long wank.
>>83436856>Us men, no-matter how non-masculine we may look or feel, are going to age, get wrinkles and become more and more "man" looking as we age, no matter if we may look like ugly lesbians because of our low T (lol, I speak for myself).Not unless you take HRT
