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I give up I used to want to be with a woman so badly but I have realized that I will never have a girl with the standards I have and me now turning 30 in a year it is truly over. I am not fat, no bald (I have full blond hair), I am a khhv, tall and I simply want a girl of my race who is also not fat, is nice, shares some of my hobbies and interests, has the same values and is either a virgin or has a very low body count. I had to look for years for a girl like that and I was very happy when I was with her even if it was just online until she dumped me very brutally. Ever since I am no longer the same. Knowing that a girl like that exists in this world and I can not be with her makes me sad behind words. I think women are just very cold and calculating, so many of them are also very entitled and borderline insane and horrible beings, I am getting old and I don't want to deal with this anymore, constantly trying to get to know someone new only to end up being ghosted or it turns out after talking with them for some time that they are not compatible with me. I know my my standards are too high for what I am but I don't care I will not lower them, I won't be happy with someone I could not be friends as well.
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>>83436872
I'm scared that I'm ending up like you anon. no offense to you at all im sure you're an awesome guy. It's just your current situation is starting to look like my near future.

my first, and only relationship was when I was 16, that was 2 years ago now. I was lucky enough to somehow fall into a relationship with her and it was in person so I got the benefits, she is a beautiful Korean girl, nice tits and ass, great everything. but she destroyed me and ripped my heart out. I only have eyes for her and like a beaten dog I keep trying to go back to her, I'll send her a drunk text every now and then but she never responds.

I guess I'm lucky that i wont be a KHHV but I feel like that has it's own problems, I got to experience the greatest shit ever, just to have it ripped away from me.

In these 2 years since my ex I haven't even talked to a girl other then necessity, like at work or at the shops. I feel like my life ended just as it began
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>>83436872
Very relatable, OP.
>I had to look for years for a girl like that and I was very happy when I was with her even if it was just online until she dumped me very brutally.
I had to make this experience, too. Played out in this way, incidentally. Do you want to tell what happened?
>I think women are just very cold and calculating
They are, sadly.
> I know my my standards are too high
I think you're reasonable in your standards.
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>>83436872
>I know my my standards are too high for what I am but I don't care I will not lower them, I won't be happy with someone I could not be friends as well.
Similar situation. I don't want to end up like the normies at work who seem to be tolerating their gfs/wives for reasons that are beyond me (they're not even getting sex often). Hell, one of them even switched jobs just so he doesn't work at the same place as his wife. Why the fuck would you marry someone you want to avoid spending time with? To me, a relationship where the woman is not my best friend and is merely someone I tolerate is utterly stupid.
I'm also 31, 6'2'', slim/fit, full head of hair. I sometimes get attention from women but it's always ugly/skinny ones, sometimes with clear signs of BPD. I don't want any of that crap, but at the same time I'm not willing to put in any effort to find someone up to my standards. I also don't want to change anything about myself for someone else. I am what I am and I like the way I am. I just don't care and am content with dying a virgin.
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Women are so passe. Grinding is all the rage now
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>>83436926
You are a sex having normalfag, dw you will be fine and you are young. You must be instantly privileged if you could pull a cute girl at 16. I was happy that people stoped bullying me at 16.
>>83436956
>Do you want to tell what happened?
I don't really feel like it she just simply lied to me and used me to make her self feel good until she was ready for something irl with someone else. It is really hard not to hate women when every single time they treat you like garbage.
>I think you're reasonable in your standards.
The ammount of women who meet my standards is so low and I have no way to find them, they mostly don't use the internet or when they do they only lurk some places like pinterest or maybe tumblr or play video games online. Dating apps are pointless, women here are some of the worst type I ever had to interact with and all live far away anyway, online gaming is so low chance and then they also live far away and I don't like most online games anyway. No idea where to even find a girl I like it was pure luck after trying for years and I simply don't have the strength and energy for that anymore.
>>83436961
They are just togheter not to be alone. I would rather be alone than in bad company. If there is no mutual obsession and love then it is simply not something I want. Normalfags are anyway something I have no desire to interact with. Having a girl who not only accepts the things you are interested in but also shares them happy with you was one the highlight of my life. I didn't knew I could be this happy ever.
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>>83437014
thats the thing i didnt pull her, i stumbled into a relationship autistically and she put up with me for a month before leaving me
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>>83437066
Even bette for you making you into an even bigger normalfag, a woman started something without you even having to initiate and even irl. Why are you even here?
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>>83437116
Because I am an autistic loser that spends all my days locked in my room, I don't have any friends or a future, and I can't even talk to girls
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>>83437014
>They are just togheter not to be alone. I would rather be alone than in bad company. If there is no mutual obsession and love then it is simply not something I want. Normalfags are anyway something I have no desire to interact with.
Couldn't agree more. I just wasn't as lucky (or misfortunate, depending on how you see it) to meet a woman like that. And considering how rarely I even meet new people at this age, I don't expect any miracles.
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>>83437125
That is on you, you are 100 % a normalfag if a woman too interest in you. You are 18 years old try saying that again in 10 years. Also that is up to you, I have tried despite coming from nothing and having so much shit done against me.
>>83437147
You have to work for it, women will NEVER come up to you on their own unless you are very good looking. I had to spend hours and hours every single day looking for a girl and talking with them it was very exhausting. Most people suck so most women suck, it was a miracle that I met her I am still happy about the time we spend even if she left me like that. At least now I know that what I want is not just a pipe dream and can be real just very very unrealistic and hard to achieve. It is so hard but oh god it is worth it, a good woman is worth so much, sadly also very rare.
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>>83437173
>women will NEVER come up to you on their own unless you are very good looking.
I guess I'm above average thanks to my height. But as I said, I only get attention from ugly ones, probably because they think an above-average loner might just settle for them. I know that I'd have to put in effort to get even a 6/10 but I'm simply nowhere desperate enough. I'd have to change so much about my personality and lifestyle that I'd become someone completely different to what I am and it would be a mask anyway. Masturbation is simply too convenient and like electricity, I take the path of least resistance.
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>>83436872
i'm not reading this thread because it will cause me mental pain. but i wish you the best of luck. pursue what is good for you. love you. wagmi
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>>83437173
>>83437125
As a third party, i think i can intermediate a bit. I think neither of you are normalfags, just that one is slightly more normalfag than the other. I am probably less of a normalfag than the supposed normie, but maybe more of a normie than the khhv.
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>>83437197
If you get something then at least it can't be that bad. I get nothing no woman ever came up to me and just wanted to talk with me. I understand not wanting to be with a normalfag girl who shares nothing with you and who would not accept your true self but talking about looks like that. I just want her to be of my race (european) and not fat that is it what I ask looks wise.
I will try one last push by becoming fit next year and if I fail then I accept my status as a wizzard.
>>83437270
This is just the real world nothing more, hiding from it won't help anything. This world is cruel but thank you anon just not everyone is going to make it that is impossible because of demand and supply.
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>>83437309
They don't quite come up and talk to me but pretty much all women treat me well and some of them hold strong eye contact, touch me for no good reason and laugh at everything I say. That's when I know maybe they're into me. One has even confessed to liking me years after doing that stuff around me.
It does feel good to know I'm clearly not ugly but the reality is that the women I'm physically attracted to mostly treat me like I don't exist, unless they have to talk to me for some work-related reason, in which case they're nice, but I know there's no underlying reason. And most of them have shit personalities anyway, so it's not like I'd want anything to do with them. It reminds me that even if I maxxed myself in every way and I could attract a Stacy, she'd probably have a terrible personality and expect me to spend a lot of money on her.
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>>83437440
>hold strong eye contact, touch me for no good reason and laugh at everything I say. That's when I know maybe they're into me. One has even confessed to liking me years after doing that stuff around me

okay, i take everything back about you not being a normalfag, you're definitively a normie, they want you to rape them so bad.
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>>83437472
I dunno, I find that extremely hard to believe. I'm just a tall lanky dude with an average face. Maybe I'm "special" compared to the bald chubby fags I see married around my age. But I'm no muscly Chad.
Also, I'm introverted and definitely not neurotypical so a lot of these women who initially seem attracted to me end up figuring I'm weird after a while and lose interest.
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>>83437485
>tall lanky
that's enough, for a lot of women that's literally the only requirement. i'm 5'11, but scandinavian so still considered short, but for so many women you can be a literal pedo and it wouldn't matter as long as you're tall.

Remember seeing a thread on xitter were they found out luigi mangionie or however it's spelled was at least 5'10. It's literally short man can do no good and tall man can do no wrong.
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>>83437440
Just as this anon said >>83437472 you are a normalfag, sorry but we are not the same. Women don't care aboue me irl and treat me like I don't exist.
>>83437617
I am 6'2 (189cm), stop making up bs like this women don't put so much weight on height as long as you are taller than them.
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>>83436872
Women are a concept that exists in the hearts and minds of men. Remember this. Anything that claims to be them in the real world is fake and false and the only true expression of them is art.
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>>83437629
>Women don't care aboue me irl and treat me like I don't exist.
Remember what I said?
>the women I'm physically attracted to mostly treat me like I don't exist
Yes, I get attention from some BPDemons and skinny/ugly women from time to time but the women above a 6/10 don't give a shit about me. They're not nasty to me but they're also clearly not into me. You have to be neurotypical and good-looking to get those to take notice.
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>>83437669
Post an example of the skinny women who give you attention. I like skinny women and would love if one would be nice to me who is also nerdy. Again you are at least a chadlite if you get this much care from women.
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>>83436961
>I sometimes get attention from women but it's always ugly/skinny ones
>>83437669
>I get attention from some BPDemons and skinny/ugly women
This nigga rejects women for being bpd and too skinny, and he calls other people normies
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>>83437696
>an example of the skinny women who give you attention
Most recent one:
>Mid 30s.
>Tall for a woman in my country, like 5'6'' (172cm).
>Tiny tits, pretty much flat unless she uses a push-up bra. Even then they're tiny.
>No ass, unless she bends over in leggings, but even then it's pretty small. Only noticed it when she bent over right in front of me to pick up a pen she'd dropped on the floor.
>Perpetual adult acne.
>Below-average face, ugly enough to look scary from some angles.
>Probably has BPD because she used to alternate between being very into me one day and ignoring me the next. Now she ignores me anyway, because she lost interest seeing I'm not reciprocating. Also has tats and has had piercings in the past, both of which point to mental illness.
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>>83436872
well you acknowledge that the issue is your standards
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>>83437702
I don't like shapeless twig women who look like teenagers. And I know dudes who've had BPDemons...I'd much rather die a virgin than go through that.
A normie would go with whatever woman throws herself at him, given how my coworkers have married the most mid women imaginable, women of the same level as the ones trying to get my attention. I'm sorry but I'm not a normie who "settles".
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>>83437768
No woman has ever wanted my attention, so I think I have the right to call you a normalfag
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>>83437779
From your perspective, sure. But from the perspective of actual normalfags, guys who are not 31yr old virgins, who have had multiple gfs, even wives, marriages and kids...I am definitely not a normalfag.
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>>83437737
That sounds okay and like a post walled former slut, tattos are nasty I give you that. I don't mind skinny you can always cook for them and acne also can be removed. BPD can be fine if she is in therapy for it but I understand not wanting to be with someone like that, women are already unstable enough without it. A woman still being single in her mid 30s also often means there is something seriously wrong with her.
>>83437757
Just how it is, I want to be happy in the relationship and I will never be with a woman who does not meet this requirements. With normal weight I mean from skinny to chubby just not fat or obease.
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>>83437826
>a post walled former slut
Could be that but after stalking her FB I found zero photos of her with dudes. It's almost always lone selfies or photos with her mom. Very few reactions and even fewer comments on her selfies and mostly from women and old male relatives. Also seems to have grown up without a father, which...also points to mental illness. I think there's a chance she's actually a virgin, which would be great but...not great enough to offset the way she looks. And yea, since she's like 35, it's all downhill from now on. Even 6yrs ago she looked slightly better and could pull off being cute with some makeup and the right haircut and angle.
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>>83436872
>Knowing that a girl like that exists in this world and I can not be with her makes me sad behind words.
Brutal! Iktfb. Also same age as you.
I think the trick, if you care enough, is to get one who is young and mould them into your ideal. Like a blank slate, you can shape them to be your dream girl
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>>83437863
If she uses facebook then she is most likely a normalfag, I doubt that women like that are still virgins at 35. I would take her if I would be her age and she would be virgin, share my hobbies and would be a nice girl otherwise not.
>>83437939
She was young, for some reason I connect with young women way better, older ones all seem even more unfriendly and I share not a single thing with them. At least younger women tend to be more nerdy.



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