just sent picrel to my old friend groups discord server, i dont know how to feel or what to do anymore, they where my only friends even though they treated me like shit, I just hoped they would grow up. do you guys think I went overboard? I feel like I'm going a million miles a minute....
>>83437304first of all shouldn't have sent that shit it's embarrassing, should have just stopped talking to them except super casual and make up some shit about being busy. Now to the other part, you will now learn that people/social groups have the role of the dancing jester, your presence is there for them to laugh at. They don't hate you outright or anything but they don't respect you or view you as a real friend. Nothing can change this. Move on.
>>83437304People are fucking trash. Genuine people are a few and far between. Humans are animals. Think of them like apes all vying for the top spot of the hierarchy and will put others down to get ahead.
>>83437304You really should have just ghosted this group.This is nothing but a humiliation ritual.Your entire post, all those words, can boil down to just two:"They won."
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>>83437334>>83437364why shouldn't I have sent it? I was sick of the way they treated and they wouldn't stop it unless I mentioned it to them. I've known them for like 16 years. this message was deserved>>83437339i've been hoping for normal friends since forever
>>83437385>why shouldn't I have sent it?Because they don't care. Best case scenario they feel a pang of guilt, not because they care about you but because they just can't imagine themselves being seen in this light.And they beg you to come back and for a minute everything's fine.Then once it's "back to normal", it'll just be the same shit again because, again, they don't care about you. If they did it never would have gotten here. Use your head. You're the butt of the joke. If they valued you, would they ever have made you feel this way? Don't be ridiculous.16 years of your life wasted on this dogshit.It's time to delete that message and move on.If you refuse or argue with me I won't try to help you again.
Most friend groups have the guy who catches all the shit talking like a lightning rod and it sucks to just be a glorified punching bag. If you don't wanna be stuck like that and you've exhausted all other options, then there's no shame in just ghosting them. Sending them a wall of text like that is just gonna make you look corny in their eyes and lead to them making fun of you behind your back. I especially don't agree with the part at the end there where you still wanted to hang with them 1-1 if they're not man enough to fuck with you when it's just the two of you it doesn't mean they suddenly respect you or anything like that. Believe me, having no friends is better than having friends like that.
>>83437479>>83437334>>83437304I've had people try to do this to me before. I just leave their group and that's that. It's usually because I make them insecure by being better than them in some obvious manner.
>>83437304Honestly I disagree with other anons saying you should've just ghosted, it is brave to tell them how you feel and confront them, hopefully they realize their mistake. Sometimes you have to send people an essay about why they fucking suck and it's justified and I think you're justified here
>>83437525He's said that he left the group many times before, so it's clear that these guys aren't the type to self reflect at all
>>83437304Congrats, OP, you've made every mistake that you could've possibly made. Amazing.>You do not forgive it when you're being sidelined ON YOUR OWN BIRTHDAY. Fuck that. Should have abandoned them after they'd done that. That is very, very disrespectful. Not sanctioning that handed you this abuse. They tasted blood in the water. >They are sadists. They'll put you down, when you're weak. You do not plead with that. You do not talk into their "conscience". They'll never see "your POV". It's weakness and you're welcoming more abuse. Never do that again. Leave them. Only thing they'll understand. They are not your "friends", even if you're having fun with them occasionally. Internalize that. >You do NEVER apologize, when you are in the right. Because you are. They are assholes. You do not apologize. They'll not see as you "offering an olive branch". They'll see it as you pleading and begging for mercy. It'll only increase their lust for blood. NEVER apologize again, when you are morally in the right. Do not even apologize, when you're in the wrong, when dealing with sadists. Do not entertain them. Do not play their games. Leave them behind.>You do NOT stay in touch with people that have wronged you and that were not loyal to you. If you do that, you're a bitch. Get some self-respect. They are not your friends. They have forfeited your friendship and good-will, when they were not loyal. They betrayed you. Betrayal cannot be forgiven.
Uhh, why are you refering to these discord people as friends? They are just names in a glorified chatbox, even if you have "known" them for 16 years, why would you consider them friends? It's odd.
>>83437638normalfag meatships are not better in any way
have some respect for yourselfeven if you're a piece of shit, you're YOUR piece of shitwho TF do they think they are?
>>83437655>meatshipskek
>>83437304sad that you put up with it for... well, since you were 13 at leastbut glad youre moving past them kindathey wont caresorry bro :(
>>83437304I didn't read that wall of text but I assume you're pretty young. As an oldfag my advice to you: don't bother trying to make dramatic exits where you write a huge paragraphs explaining yourself. It's best to just distance yourself silently and move on with life. If you disappear and no one ever asks about you or reaches out they weren't your friends anyways.
I hate to say it but they are probably picking apart this autistic diatribe and laughing about it rn. Idk why you felt the need to write a letter of resignation for a discord server but at least we all know why you're the dancing jester of the group now
>>83437334>Now to the other part, you will now learn that people/social groups have the role of the dancing jester, your presence is there for them to laugh at.how do I avoid this? All my life its been the only way people give me the time of day, I avoid it and they blank me. I don't have anyone now because I refuse to perform that role.
>>83437815Self reflect a bit, what do you think it is that people find so funny about you? What can you do to fix it? Could you be fun to hang around in some other way? Give us some info man cmon.
>thinking normgroids carelolthose hylics only obey social hierarchies. objective truths mean nothing to them
>>83437638because they are irl friends? we met in primary school>>83437795one of them cared, he reached out and yeah hes an actual friend, he just distanced himself from the group cause they are all horrible people and he was dealing with the same stuff as me>>83437798wasnt trying to be dramatic or anything, i wanted to get stuff off my chest that I've been dealing with for a while
>>83437815Find another way to provide value. Just being brutally honest as a man your relationships with other people will always be at their root based on this concept. "What value do I provide?" Is what you ask yourself. If you find yourself always playing the role of dancing monkey it is probably because you subconsciously have low self esteem and believe amusing or belittling yourself is the only way you'll be tolerated. If you find yourself not having any friends when you don't play that role, that is your external validation/evidence of that fact. The solution is providing some other form of value that gains you respect. Maybe focus on just more surface level relationships first without worrying too much about close bonds. What I mean is not every person you associate with has to be some ride or die close friendship. Just stick to the basics and expand your network and go from there. Just by knowing a huge amount of acquaintances you will have an inherent value because you can be a middle man. X person is looking for a roommate and Y person wants a place to stay. You can introduce them. This is a real value you have created for your associates. Other than that just get hobbies and if you're more outgoing you'll hopefully eventually make yourself some friends.
>>83437848I don't feel I have anything to offer but being funny, but it very quickly goes from making people laugh to being the butt of the joke. I don't have any other personable qualities or life experiences to draw on.
>>83437815>how do I avoid this? All my life its been the only way people give me the time of day, I avoid it and they blank methe problem stems from you trying to gain their acceptance. do your own shit
>>83437879>one of them cared, he reached out and yeah hes an actual friend, he just distanced himself from the group cause they are all horrible people and he was dealing with the same stuff as meHave you considered that he reached out to you not for your sake but for his? To me, it's more likely he knew he was in the wrong and felt guilt. Then, he reached out to your for forgiveness. So that they feeling of guilt would go away. But, you should have denied him that. Let that feeling fester in his heart.
>>83437899Well what do you usually do that's funny? Is it self depricating humor? If so why not try a different kind of humor? Like instead of being negative towards yourself, maybe be negative towards your work or higher ups. Punching up is much more positive than punching down against yourself.
>>83437304You come across as incredibly pathetic in that post, so much so I'm thinking it may be bait.Assuming it isn't it just seems like those guys found you annoying and probably will be glad you are gone.
>>83437848>what do you think it is that people find so funny about you?in many cases it's autism for which there are no cure.
>>83437950It's often being negative towards myself or others but I do pretty good impressions or parodies of people too. I'm not actually unpleasant and I think it's pretty obvious, I don't know why people just come to hate me. I don't do the stereotypical jester thing of hey look at me I'm so pathetic and ugly.
>>83437385Because you're cringe and gave them something to laugh at for the next few years. You a soft ass nigga hahaha
