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femininity and beauty expectations on women are nothing but a pain in the ass.

yes, i am ugly and i could be more attractive if i used all these girly products feminine women use, did makeup, went to the hair salon, lasered my entire body, maybe got plastic surgery etc but why would i do that?

i don't need to compete with other women. i exist as an unhygienic hairy fembot with a fat belly and acne scars and moids still want to smash.

what can i possibly gain from becoming girly besides extreme discomfort?

none of this comes naturally to me and i always felt more like one of the boys because of my personality and how much i don't give a fuck about my appearance.
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>>83438165
>give me, a woman, one reason to be feminine
There is none. Femininity is weak. Don't let the world change who you are.
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>>83438165
> i always felt more like one of the boys
of course you did slut
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>>83438165
I think women should be physically fit because it benefits everyone.
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>>83438165
That's the thing, beauty expectations these days are completely optional.
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>>83438165
>femininity and beauty expectations on women are nothing but a pain in the ass.
>I do expect specific gender role traits in male partners though teehee
Lol kys.
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>muh dress muh heels muh discomfort

Girl just lose weight, wash your face, and wear clothes you like that compliment your body. No one is asking you to go to the salon every week or wear heels everywhere or even wear makeup. The bare minimum is to not be disgusting which is sounds like you are. If youre happy getting plapped by 4/10 guys who will still leave you for someone who showers regularly then carry on and stop complaining
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>>83438165
guys will smash but they will be embarrassed to be seen near you because you have poor hygiene. I'd get you one of those laser things that removes your hair and makes it grow back thinner, and then just keep yourself clean and maybe get your hair done, and give a tiny shit about what you wear, and call that a compromise since you could get away without makeup or surgery.

Unless you just want to be a slampig that guys will fuck but never introduce to others has his gf.
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>>83438165
>give me, a woman, one reason to be feminine
being cool
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>>83438165
You're inherently feminine by having XX chromosomes and a vagina. It's only a matter of how much you want to play into those aspects or not. Most people don't find the angry, combative bull dyke act pleasant to be around, but that never stopped a woman from getting the full woman treatment anyway.
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you dont need to shave
there was a finnish neighbor I had a small crush on who looked like pic related and walked around in cargo shorts in the summer and didnt shave her legs
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>>83438231
where did i say that? are you retarded?>>83438252
you are not being slick pretending femininity and beauty expectations are nit extreme. it isn't "just shower sis"
>>83438276
i have had 5 boyfriends and a few casual hookups. no one was embarrassed to be seen with me.
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>>83438165
hey, guess what nigger, you are not actually a woman at all! this is actually an anonymouse website. do you know what that means? it means that you are just words on a screen actually. you are actually online pretending to be a woman because you crave attention so fucking bad lol. its kinda pathetic to be honest. by the way this is the worst troll or ragebait or whatever it is you think youre doing ive seen in my whole life ever, im not kidding. im not fucking around seriously im not. this shit sucks really fucking bad. anyway im gonna give you a response as if i actually fell for the bait. got it? im gonna pretend to be the incel caricature that you are trying to "bait", while you pretend to be a woman... does that sound good to you? yeah, does it? okay here we go!

hey bitch! i hate women and i think that you are x and y and z (all variables are bad things by the way, make it up yourself) i think you should be a trad wife andddd uhhhh idk... what else are incels supposed to say?

okay there i gave you the attention that you wanted from the made up stereotype of a person that does not exist, while you, as you present yourself on this four chan dot org website, also do not exist! isnt the world incredible? isnt it awesome how we can live our lives wearing a mask? and isnt it amazing how you can go online, visit normie forums, and continue to wear the mask?
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>>83438406
>i have had 5 boyfriends and a few casual hookups.
Please do act as much as a man and dyke as possible and dress not girl like so i can avoid you in real life.
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>>83438165
only slop makeover games and teen movies think that anyone is actually ugly for having glasses or wearing sweaters, unless the clothing is extremely unflattering or offputting face and body is all that matters when it comes to attractiveness
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>>83438462
just lol if you think that's an abnormla body count and women who are feminine do not have even higher numbers
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>>83438475
NTA but you know legs can close, right?
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>>83438165
>i always felt more like one of the boys
thats one way to call yourself a slut I guess
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>>83438231
Would it have made it better if she said she expected them to be in full drag?
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>>83438475
>you think that's an abnormla body count
Compared what to your friends? Normal women dont hang around hoes. Anyways dyke looking girls have a body count generally higher like femcels vs muh stacy. Stacy will always have less if for nothing else because they are worth a damn.
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>>83438498
why should i though like that's another stupid expectation on women why shouldn't i have sex with guys i find attractive i never understood the problem
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>>83438519
imagine calling a woman whose body count is in the single digits a hoe because you never went outsid ein your life so you don't know what's a normal number
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>>83438521
Once you turn 30 and nobody will want you, you will understand. You dumb slut.
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>>83438165
I'm not feminine, but I had a funny conversation with my mom the other day. She was talking about lady Gaga, and how the church thought she was the one who'd bring the end of dressing modestly in the 90s or something, and how that did happen, and my mom said she dressed inappropriately as a teen, and how now young adult women dress inappropriately too, but then she pointed at me and said "except the virgins" and when i asked her why she pointed at me when she said that, she said it's because I'm a virgin and dress modestly and like a guy
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>>83438628
What kind of clothes do you like wearing?
Also it depends a lot on your own body. You must surely have a flat chest or something.
Churchfags would shame a woman with large boobs no matter what she's wearing because everything is "exceedingly feminine" in her, as her feminine body traits are highlighted by nature.
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>>83438165
Well you don't have to if you see no benefit to it.
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>>83438165
I can't, because
>moids still want to smash.
Simps tolerate a woman's bullshit no matter what.
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>>83438680
>What kind of clothes do you like wearing?
Cargo pants and normal shirts(not tight), usually with a jacket now that it's cold out. I don't like tight clothing because they feel suffocating. And I wear black sneakers and sometimes doc martens. Sometimes I wear a hat too
>You must surely have a flat chest or something.
I wear a D-cup bra. So I guess I have average sized ones.
>Churchfags would shame a woman with large boobs no matter what she's wearing because everything is "exceedingly feminine" in her
Yeah, I've heard of that. I also used to see that happening a lot in school, girls with bigger chests would get dress coded just for wearing normal shirts
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>>83438521
>why shouldn't i be a dumb braindead whore?
It is only in the clownworld we are currently forced to partake in today that this is allowed.

If you did this barely 100 years ago and people found out, you'd be considered lower than a jeet.

Consider yourself very lucky.
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>>83438165
I need you unshowered (like you want to douse me in your pheromones), unkempt and into rape, like you want to pin my wrists to the floor and babytrap me. besides when I want to kiss you I want my lips to touch yours/ your skin and not gunk and goop.
skirts are fun for ease of access however
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>>83438165
>give me a reason
Why? You say you're happy as is.
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>>83438165
>what can i possibly gain from becoming girly besides extreme discomfort?
Sex and more satisfying sex. A man is turned off by a lack of feminity. Not just that but your offspring might end up worse too since a man's state of mind can affect the quality of his sperm.
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>>83438165
I can you all the reasons:
>Women give men less than nothing to work with right now, and you want to do even less than that
You don't want to compete? Well I'm sure you can find some lowtier simp and take him for a ride for a bit, but even then you only have your youth for so long. If you don't compete, others will. You will have to settle for less and you will regret your actions in the future, this is how successful women typically act, and you're not even on their level.
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>>83438165
>what can i possibly gain from becoming girly besides extreme discomfort?
The halo effect is real and doesn't just apply on other people; you get it towards yourself as well.

I use to look unironically homeless because I let my hair and beard grow long without doing anything with them and wore washed off clothes full of holes (the ones born from use, not the aesthetic designer ones). I went to the barber, put on nice clothes, and my self-hatred went WAY down. This, despite thinking I did not care. Turns out something in me did. Probably the same for you.
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>>83438165
It's more about feeling good about yourself and being confident and comfortable in your own skin. If you believe girls only take care of themselves just to seek validation then you're spending too much time with men.
And staying unhygienic isn't good for you. Men won't care much about other stuff as long as you're fun and not impossibly difficult.
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>>83438726
>D-cup bra
>average
There's a whole range for D cups, you may just happen to be among the smallest ones.
>girls with bigger chests would get dress coded just for wearing normal shirts
Despite your clothing trends, never your case I guess?
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>>83438165
I don't give a fuck what you do you ugly fat foid. What a shitty thread. I'm not reading all that foid babble



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