Why don't men just go to therapy?
>>83442789Should we just listen to women bros? They really seem to just have everything figured out
>>83442789Therapy is for BPDemon foids, it's of no use to anyone else.
Therapy does nothing for people with personality disorders. Therapy does nothing for the clinically depressed. Therapy doesnt help drug addicts. Therapy doesnt help alcoholics. Therapy is only good if you were raped or molested and even then the therapist is probably jerking off to the thought of it
>>83442789I don't even go to the dentist or my eye doctor, let alone a fucking therapist. I've been wearing the same glasses for 16 years now.
>>83442811This has been FactBunked by Pfizer Sheckelbaum as harmful disfinformation
>>83442789I'm a schizo. Therapy only works on normies.
>>83442816go to the dentist, anonyour teeth getting fucked is the worst sign of age
>>83442789>open up what goes through my head>be labeled as a danger to society>be told how my way of thinking is bad and wrong and intolerantNo thanks. I tried therapy when I was younger, that shit is literally a bad joke that only ever worsened my mental health.
>>83442851My teeth are fine. I do my own dentistry at home.
>>83442851Too poor to go to the dentist. Medical services are reserved for illegal immigrants, women, and the wealthy
>>83442851>go to the dentist, anonYou need money for that. Sure you can get insurance that only covers fillings and only a handful of places accept. I have alright teeth except for a molar that had to be pulled. I got quoted to get a bone graft and an implant for 1 tooth 3 thousand dollars. Dentures and partials are in the near future for zoomers. No matter is going to be able to afford any dental.
>>83442789I've been going to therapy for 20 years. Still waiting for them to actually do something helpful. They just waste time keeping me explaining things I already know. It's usually pretty evident that I know more than they do. They never fucking do anything except prompt me to keep talking. When I ask when they're actually going to do something to help they talk in circles to avoid answering. I usually get sick of them wasting my time six months in, bail on them, then get forced to set up another one because NDIS don't think you're taking your mental health seriously if you're not wasting time and taxpayer money on one of these useless hacks.
ill never trust anyone in any kind of healthcare especially a woman. I worked in a hospital around nurses worst experience of my life. 3 different nurses were fucking the same doctor. Nurses would talk shit about people in the ER. Nurses would be methed out on adderall prescriptions not knowing what the fuck is going on. Shit was horrendous and made me hate everyone.
>>83442897Its funni when you pretend to be retarded and passively make them acknowledge that everything they say is useless
>>83442789isn't therapy just kike reprogramming? no thanks
>>83442789My problem is I'm not valuable enough to other people. What will therapy change about that
>>83443073Yeah, being happy is Jewish propaganda. I strive to be as angry and depressed as possible at all times in order to ensure that my thoughts are pure.
>>83442789they just want to bring up old shit and make you out to be some sort of victim instead of facing shit head on and moving forward
>>83442789I want a woman with massive tits to be my wife and put those tits on my face. Therapy won't help with that at all. I don't live at home, have a full time job, don't suffer any disorders that make me act like a violent retard in society. Nor do I have hangups about my past that mindfuck me all day. Therapy is designed to make you become a normie or act like one. I already do that shit, I need a girlfriend with huge tits or one with big ones willing to do fat transfers to get huge ones.
>>83442789Men Scooby-Dooby-doo be like thisAnyways, therapy is for women, and even then it doesn't work
>>83442789Tried it>hmm wow, thats so interesting>ok time up, thstll be 500 dollars, see you next appointment
The problem with therapists are you cant tell the truth if you really want to kill yourself. I had a therapist I told I wanted to kill myself with my antidepressant medication lexapro and had to deal with a crisis intervention at 27 years old. that was years ago
>>83442789therapy merely gets people to conform to liberal social norms. liberal social norms are also objectively insane, so that's not a good idea
>>83443089i can tell you made this post out of fear, kike
>>83442789I did two times and talking to a fucking wall would've helped a lot more
>>83442876>I do my own dentistry at home.Redpill me on how to do this
>>83442811>even then the therapist is probably jerking off to the thought of itI mean he has to do something for that money
>>83442789If I wanted to hear a pseudointellectual soiboy's opinion about anything I would just go to reddit and get it for free, and if the therapist is a woman the money would be infinitely better spent on a hooker.I find it extremely unattractive when young women virtue signal about therapy.
Even if you're legitimately emotionally intelligent, empathetic, and do go to therapy, women will still say you need to go to therapy if you say something they don't like. It's really just the insult they throw your way if they've got nothing else.
>>83443362Oh it's like a synonym of "ew, are you gay?"
>>83443377Or kind of like "ok incel"
>>83443386Yeah but they mean "ur gay" with that, too.
>>83442789Because men know that their problems are a product of the toxic environment around them (feminism), and that therapy is completely useless.>>83442796>Should we just listen to women bros? They really seem to just have everything figured out>Woman tells men to go to therapy>Therapy>The rapy>The rapistNo man should ever listen to a woman's advice.
>just go to therapy, kween!
>>83442789>Why don't men just go to therapy?I plan on it. I've been to therapy but I didn't get all the work done. I'm looking into a 3 hour emdr session or maybe multiple sessions. Not that you care but whatever
Narcissists hate therapy and this thread proves it. Lmao
>>83443543yes because when I think young liberal white women the last thing I think is narcissist
>>83443362This. When people repeat stock phrases like: "go to therapy" "men need therapy" or "are men okay?" they aren't actually offering advice. They're just using a cliche to badger guys who are showing emotions or opinions that they feel are inappropriate or weird. The fact is that the vast majority of therapists are completely unequipped to deal with the problems of young socially isolated extremely online men in any way. If you go look up local therapists in your area this will quickly become obvious. You can see tons of them who specialize in things like couples counseling, burnt out professionals, abuse survivors, loss of loved ones, early childhood, etc. You will never find a therapist who has the skillset to work with a socially isolated incel who sits on 4chan and social media all day, because those things didn't even exist 30 years ago when the average professional therapist was in school. They will not be able to relate or offer any useful advice beyond what you might find if you just googled "advice for depression" or something similar. Most people on /r9k/ have probably spent more time researching and reading about these types of issues than the average boomer therapist.
i told my therapist that i had seen twice that i want a gf and he just literally waved the notion away with his arm
>>83443770Most people go through 3-5 therapists before finding one that isn't a complete dud.
>>83442789Blacked is my therapy
>>83442789>do beNo one who talks like this can afford therapy
>>83443543Therapy has nothing to offer if you are an otherwise productive non trouble making member who can't get a girlfriend. It's completely fucking useless and you are taking up the time of people who need real help. Good non quack shrinks are hard to find and they need to use their time helping people.
>>83442789Going to therapy and talking about your feelings is gay.
>>83444161It also doesn't help. And your friends could do a better job without charging you $115 for an hour.
>>83442789When the client is a woman, therapists will just tell them what they wanna hear. If they don't, the woman will spend thousands looking for one that does. The market has responded accordingly, so women only see therapist as validation now.A man will not spend thousands looking for another therapist. There is no incentive for validation, but there is an incentive for manipulation. Think, has anything you were told to do in therapy actually held up when faced with reality? Has "approaching with kindness and good vibes and the world will give kindness back." Ever once worked? And where are told to go to learn why that is? More therapy of course. Eventually we'll work through your problems and find the root cause. And why spent the first season calling you a loser? They don't know much about your life, what do they know? What purpose does this serve but to select for a lack of confidence in those that return?Personally, I think it's far cheaper to just sleep on a park bench and let some guy yell at you for being homeless and lazy.
>>83444181This. Would rather spend that money on going to club or buying your favorite food & drinks to spend it for the night
>>83442789humiliation ritual i don't want to go through unless it gets me neetbux (it won't)
>>83443543this poor young roastie has been watching tiktoks about narcissism as a way to cope with being pumped and dumped by chad
Women go to therapy and talk about their feelings with friends and still they're twice as likely to use antidepressants than men kek
>>83442789I do be not be doin therapy. I do be doin what i be doin instead. I like be doin the things im doinMe do things i be doingMe be doin
Im 33I have been in therapy programs twice.I have met a handful different psychologists. I have tried a handful different anti depressants I have done tons of my own work with guided meditation and psychadelics Root of my mental health issues? Bullying My advice after all of this? Nothing.
>>83442789therapy is a drawn out cope session to brainwash youseriously, thats what it isits telling you to accept things like you arent loved, you aren't attractive, its fine that you're not enjoying life like everyone else and suffering
I'm not even in therapy to get better. Ideally that's what I would want but I've been disappointed far too often to expect it so instead I just go because I want someone to act like they care about me
>why not do this expensive thing that is famously expensivei know 4chan doesn't like this word, but fuck me if that isn't privileged.
Not a man. Therapy is a meme. I've had years of therapy and it doesn't work. All it does is let you vent and have a person support you during that time. It only gives you a place to cry about your issues without randomly crying over an issue in public. The advice they give is very generic "just be urself XD" bullshit. The techniques they give don't really work like EMDR, grounding, mindful awareness, and guided meditation. Most of the time, they give you the wrong diagnosis like they did for me for years. It brought major resentments and therapy just gave me a space to vent.The only thing that has truly helped me was medications. Having a tennis ball to have a focal point has been helpful as well. I have to continue therapy to get the medications since two are controlled medications.
>>83442789For me,>it costs>can't really find the time since I'm working six days a week>had to go to psychiatrists throughout my teen years and even got hospitalized for 2 days for self-cutting>got kicked out of the military twice for mental health issues before age 19>not really a point at this pointThose 'doctors' hurt more than they help anyway.
I'd rather watch a documentary about ancient Rome.
>>83444521BYZANTIA!
>>83444185>approaching with kindness and good vibes and the world will give kindness backIf anyone ever said this to me I'd call them unprofessional and walk out of their office without paying.>>83444367>therapy is a drawn out cope session to brainwash youIf that's what it's supposed to be, they are being paid too much to use ineffective brainwashing techniques. You can't simply say 'well sometimes the sky is red' and expect that to brainwash someone into believing the sky is red.Perhaps you're right though. They spend a lot of time saying things they cannot provide supporting evidence for, and they are always unable to respond to my pointing out the inconsistencies/logical flaws/issues in said things. It's as if they really do think saying 'well sometimes the sky is red' is enough to make me convince myself that's the case.But this would mean we have a lot of completely incompetent brainwashers being paid a lot for a job they're awful at.>>83444474>All it does is let you vent.When I vent people get scared for their physical safety, even though I clearly tell them I'm not upset with them but simply have difficulty hiding my feelings.
>>83444580Well, if venting is all you need, that's fine. Just don't expect your therapist to cure you or anything.
>>83442789How is a Jewish woman charging money to listen to me vent going to solve anything?
I don't engage with pseudoscience
>>83442789What men don't want is another place where they'll be censored and not allowed to speak freely. Women aren't men and neither are men women. Women aren't defective men and men aren't defective women. We respond to different things.
I want someone to love me, not for a therapist to psyop me into thinking that such desires are evil
>>83442789Because if you're fiscally responsible and have an IQ over 80, you recognize it as a bit of a grift.Most of our suffering is absurd in the Camusian sense--that is, irreconcileable with the indifference of the universe. Plumbing the depths of your shitty past experiences will do nothing for you. If you haven't learned anything from them yet, they're probably meaningless. The bully wasn't there to teach you anything.The most effective strategy is compartmetalization, not because denial is some enlightened state of mind, but because there's a massively underappreciated two-way coupling between mind and body--your mental state is as much determined by your actions as your actions are determined by your mental state. Therapy exists so that people can pass the knowledge of what they need to DO (which they already have, but refuse to act on) to some external 'authority' who repeats it back to them. That way, they can indirectly follow their own advice and improve their lives without reconciling the fact that the body isn't entirely subservient to the mind. We can actually control how we act and produce good outcomes that make us feel better about ourselves in the future, regardless of how we feel in the moment.That's called being responsible. People used to care about that. Now it's all 'self care.' Crashed out at the family gathering because you're socially inept? That's okay: masturbate in the bathtub with a scented candle! There is no 'other care,' by the way. They've conveniently forgotten about that, because if we were truly caring for one another, we wouldn't be paying money for commiseration.I wish I could be alive in 2500, just to see how we look back on this era of mental health obsession
>>83442789I had a work shrink because of the stuff I deal with while working. She was older psychologist and she was alright. I did talk with her about non-work and work related stuff but she didnt give me much more options beside already confirming what I know/wanted to do. She sometimes encoured me or push me when I wasnt sure, but in reality, a good frendship supose to work like this, so if you dont have a partner of friend that you trust, i guess it could help you. Of course theres a lot of people that single/friendless and still manage themselves pretty good - it all revoles around how self concious and egotical you are.When it comes with psychiatrist I dont have good expiriences. Ive meet just few, but they all seems to arrive with conclusion to fast, they seem to dont listen or tie facts to fast. They also want to prescribe you with shit the moment you steep over their doorstep.Therapy help people that lie to themself or have problems with admiting the truth to others, all shit that therapy do can be done via contact with other people that care for you, you just need to be frank avout your problems, but most people have trouble with being open in the first place.
I've been there in the past. Therapy is expensive, and the quality of your therapy will vary. Most therapists aren't equipped to handle complex issues. It's also not addressing the cause of men's problems, which are often external. People who say "just get therapy" have never been on therapy before and it shows.
>>83442789I already sort of tried that. It did nothing. Absolutely nothing.
>>83442927I'm convinced that women are genuinely demons. It's like that everywhere dude where women are involved.My sister is a therapist who constantly talks shit about her own clients, that's all women fucking do because they're pathetic, insecure, and constantly trying to "1-up" everyone around them because they're losers deep down
>>83442789Because it costs $300 for some 110iq septum piercing woman to tell me what feelings mean what things. I'm not an idiot, I know how a brain works and how we convince ourselves of dumb shit, I need to actively suppress what I want in life because I can't get itTruth be told, I need therapy so I can stop craving any emotional intimacy at all, so I can just hide in the woods and be a libertarian on my own.
>>83442789Talking about my problems solves exactly zero of my problems. If it can be solved by talking, then it is not a problem in the first place.Therapy is a woman thing