Went outside today to a christmas market, all alone because I don't have anyone, at least it is better to just sit at home all day long and I can be under people even if I don't talk to anyone. The amount of cute to pretty girls with very plain to ugly guys I saw was insane. This made me realize that doing anything dating related online is pure scam and a huge waste of time. Not only are women online swmard by guys and attention they also tend to be more entitled and mentally ill. My pain problem is that I am love shy, I can not ever ask out a girl, I nearly wanted to after seeing a cute red head but so many people were around so I did not do it. I should have just done it, she was so cute, would have probably rejected me but still. Now I will never see her again. I really have to stop wasting time online it will never lead to anything. Just don't know where to go else irl where I can find women and get to know them, cold approaching is not something that really works. Also people tend to be nicer to me irl compared to online, maybe all the people who write online that being tall as a man makes people treat you better are right but it is does not apply for anything online. How do I remove my high inhibition, especially with women, at this point I think this and me spending so much time online are the reason I am still a khhv in my late 20s.Pic related waffles I had there.
I really don't understand how you haven't committed suicide yet. All alone, just to return to people who don't care about you at all. I noticed people with aspergers often struggle with this. You can't help being do dislikeable. In the real world, where you just came back from, people would physically just run away from you at the first chance they have. Not now, I guess
>>83446216You'll never get good at talking to people without talking to people.>being tall as a man makes people treat you better are right but it is does not apply for anything online.So go for irl instead of online. You're being retarded.
>>83446216Hey, anon, that is good for you, man. My advice, is to not come to /r9k/ for advice with women. You should talk to your dad or grandpa for advice on that. Just be a decent person, and put yourself out there.
OP is patheticmaxxing, literally associated with people cause nobody wants anything to do with him. Never has anything interesting to say either
>>83446216>Not only are women online swmard by guys and attentionThis is also true offline thoughbeit
>>83446228Don't listen to this post, OP. There is hope for you, brah.
>>83446233I wrote down why it is hard for me irl, I don't know where to go and have to high inhob for a lot of things. Also I am a nerd so a lot of the things people do outside don't really interest me like sport events, concerts or going to the bar.>>83446234My grandpa is dead and I have no contact with my dad, he is a useless drug addicted asshole and loser. I don't know where else I can easily talk with people.
>>83446251Not true I get nearly no likes on dating apps, but I don't like fat women since I am also not fat so I don't like them. No woman ever cared that I was tall online, I got ghosted soo often I don't want to do any online stuff ever again.>>83446253Why would I listen to someone like that he is not even worth a reply.
>>83446262>I don't know where else I can easily talk with people.I mean, like you said, there was a lot of girls where you were today. Why not just try going there again and putting yourself out there? Even if you get rejected- even if, more than once, you'll be getting more used to socializing, and the fear or anxiety you have will most likely start to die down.>he is a useless drug addicted asshole and loserSorry to hear that. Hope he changes, and you both reconcile with eachother some day.
crazy that he hasnt killed himself yet desu
>>83446262I understand it's hard but there's no other way around it. You're asking me how to pick up 200lbs and I'm telling you need to pick up 50lbs first and you're telling me it's hard DUH it's hard. How old are you? You're that many years behind everyone else socially, is it supposed to be easy? You're trying which is good and you're a fakecel tall faggot so naturally you're easily loved, just stop being a pussy.>i am a nerdLot of nerds out there buddy you're not special. I work in landscaping and a ton of guys here do low-mid tier nerd shit. Why haven't you looked for nerd gatherings online?
>>83446276>Why not just try going there again and putting yourself out there?I can't I told you I am love shy, please google what that means. It would take me all my mental energy and courage to do that and I would most likely not be able to think normal from being nervous and getting rejected would be too painful. I asked out a girl once years ago and it took me a very long time to even think about doing that again. Also there are so many people there like there is no private space at all>Sorry to hear thatTy but I will never talk with him again, I don't want to talk about my dad IS, he traumatized me and is one of the main reasons why I am like that today. I mean nobody cares about that anyway I have to deal with that on my own.
>>83446310>I can't I told you I am love shy, please google what that means. It would take me all my mental energy and courage to do that and I would most likely not be able to think normal from being nervous and getting rejected would be too painful. I asked out a girl once years ago and it took me a very long time to even think about doing that again. Also there are so many people there like there is no private space at allYou should try to get over this, anon. How are you going to find a girlfriend if you don't initiate anything with a girl? A man is expected to initiate, and you should try to practice to overcome that fear, even if it may feel crippling to you.>Ty but I will never talk with him again, I don't want to talk about my dad IS, he traumatized me and is one of the main reasons why I am like that today. I mean nobody cares about that anyway I have to deal with that on my own.You're welcome. You can always forgive him, anon.
>>83446308I never disagreed with you just told you that it is hard for me. I know I have to try but the progress is very slow, I did so many things this year I would have never done a few years ago. >How old are you?28 so already very old.>you're a fakecel tall faggot Never got me much and I personally don't care about height.>I work in landscaping and a ton of guys here do low-mid tier nerd shitWhat kind of stuff you mean playing fifa or watching some anime?>Why haven't you looked for nerd gatherings online?There is not really anything in my city like one shop that has something like that and I go play board games with people sometimes already but there are nearly no single women there around my age, most men like most nerd stuff.
>>83446326>You should try to get over this, anonI know I just don't know how, I feel like a creep just walking up to a random girl I don't know and trying to talk with her especially with my social skills. I don't mind talking if I see them more than once and we do something togheter but that is very very rare for me to ever happen and I never ask out them out. >You can always forgive him, anon.No I can't not after what he has done but again I don't want to talk about him. I don't need trash people in my life.
>>83446216>Went outside today to a christmas market, all alone because I don't have anyoneGet a dog or two.Their company makes every experience worthwile.>t. 29 yo khhv who is a dog owner
>>83447066I don't think a dog would help me with my goal to find a gf. I don't have anyone who would take care of it should I travel. I think about it I was petting a dog today from some random old guy and it was nice, I really like animals they are not so complicated like humans and come up to you.
>>83447300>I don't think a dog would help me with my goal to find a gfUnironically a dog could HIGHLY help you with that.Although I don't think it's ok to use your loving pet as a tool for anything.>I don't have anyone who would take care of it should I travelRealistically would you even travel? I've barely got out of my town in the past 5 years or more, but it may be different for you as I don't know all your life circumstances. Of course.>petting a dog today from some random old guyBased dogmaxxer boomer
>>83446345>Never got me much and I personally don't care about height.You never did much with it retard you said so yourself you do nothing. I hope bad things happen to you, good day.
Sitting at home all day is better, what are you talking about?
>>83447380>Although I don't think it's ok to use your loving pet as a tool for anything.Maybe and you are right just that having even a tiny bit of an advantage would be nice. >Realistically would you even travel?Yeah I did this year and will again next year. And should I ever try online again (I won't anytime soon) then I will have to travel should I find someone. I want to stay flexible and don't want a animal to suffer because of me.>Based dogmaxxer boomerHe was a cute dogo I think should I ever get one it would be a big fluffy one.>>83447439I don't want any pitty but you don't know how I grew up, it is not nice to say something like that.
>>83447484No it is not, maybe if I had a gf and I could spend the time with her but even then I would want to go out with her on fun dates. I like being outside just not that much alone.
>>83447515What's the point of going out alone if you don't have anything you need to pick up?I genuinely don't understand. Maybe if I was going out in nature or something, but just out in public?
>>83447569That is what I said, I sometimes go out to visit places I want to see alone since I don't have anyone I could go with. Most of the time just in nature. Don't get me wrong I also like staying cozy at home as well it just makes me depressed if I do that too long and I know nothing good will come from it.
>>83447503>Yeah I did this year and will again next year. And should I ever try online again (I won't anytime soon) then I will have to travel should I find someone. I want to stay flexible and don't want a animal to suffer because of me.You make your own life choices, anon. But if I had to choose between doggomaxxing vs. travelmaxxing, I pick my dogs in all possible universes unless I'd need to travel for strictly urgent reasons.
>>83446216im sorry, but i have nothing useful or helpful to say :<i will say that those waffles look absolutely beautiful, i want to make some, one of these days...
>>83446216are waffles a Christmas thing in Europe?
>>83446216It's not even entirely your fault anon I am in the same boat. I ask my friends how they got their girlfriends and they say "well she asked me out or asked to hang out or told me to ask her out", there's literally just somwthing wrong with us and I have yet to figure out what
>>83447752I don't travel that often just that I don't feel a dog would help me with my problems I have atm and would just make me focus more on it.>>83448526It is okay they were a bit dry but otherwise good, but I took some with caramel so that it my fault I guess. I am just exhausted with how women are and how I am, I know they want someone who is strong and has no fear and will sweep them off their feet and I am just not that. The only woman I ever liked a lot stoped liking me for that reason it still hurts after all that time.>>83448839They are from a local company and I wanted some. Waffles are not really christmas related here, more so for the cold season in general.>>83448899I know it is all on the women if they want they can but no women ever did outside of one online who ended up ghosting me. Women start and end most relationships, they have all the power. I can ask out 1000 and if they all say no I can't do anything, yet no woman will ask me because I am a man. Also I am not very social to begin withto gain and maintain a friend group for me to ever have the possibility to find a girl that way. Too many people are exhausting for me.
>>83446216Asking random people has never been the norm, anon. There was always some circumstantial reason for you to mingle with girls. Now you're just reduced to a hobo begging for girls to be with you. It's not your fault, it's just the result of liberalism and the industrial revolution.
>>83446228>>83446247lol I guess this is the problem with r9k. the premise of a forum full of social misfits attracts someone even more pathetic: barely normie low IQ idiots who are not even good enough to be soulless normies, so they feel better about themselves by bullying social outcastsas barely normies, you live by a checklist you're not even good enough to comply with. and you're talking to someone who's actually self reflecting, figuring out improvements to his life, and not caring about being alone and still getting comfy waffles. you insolent, pathetic cowards.
>>83450555I know that this whole pua stuff is just bs but what else should I do. The chance that a woman I like is somewhere where I have the opportunity to do something with her in a natural way is very low. I am sadly no longer in education and I already wrote that there are nearly no woman at work and I don't really have a reason to talk with them. This is the only good thing about online dating, you can find women who are into the same things as you just that they live far away and end up ghosting you so it is just a waste of time. I once went to a anime con but I simply could not find a way to talk to the women there, everyone there is already in their pre existing groups. I saw a few women who were alone just did not felt right for me to ask them, maybe I do that next time I am in one.
>>83450654PUA is superstition, but hitting on random girls is legit, and has always been done.The only problem is, society is fucked now. There's very attractive guys having sex with many girls and giving them all hope of committing, women are in no rush to find a man because they don't need one, and men's behavior is seriously constrained by social rules about what is or isn't "creepy". All of those factors combined make it hard for a non model looking man these days.You're still bound to get a gf sooner or later if you do it many times, are ok with rejections, and your face is avg and doesn't stand out as ugly. This is why some people claim PUA works, it's because they encourage each other to get through it, dehumanize and infantilize women so rejections don't hurt them, and basically play the numbers game. That's the part of PUA that works, their tactics and game are noise. You just have to act normal and like you're a happy person and that's implied social proof.
>>83450654>what else should I doI've been asking myself the same question. And I honestly don't have a good answer for you. You and I are in the same boat I'm afraid. I also like redheads but, I just don't have a clue where to get one. Like you said, everyone's in their bubble even at conventions so you're just not in a good spot. I'm afraid you're gonna have to keep mingling with the normies in public places. You could do it, but I can't so you're already ahead of me.
>>83450728The problem with asking out random women is that you don't know what they like, how they are and what their values are and by the time you find out it is kind of already too late without hurting them and yourself as well being a lonely man who never even hugged a girl. I want someone I can connect with on a deeper level. Like the same as being with a friend.
>>83450782Yeah but if you really want a gf, that's a way to get one. Sooner or later, someone says yes to a date.
>>83450808Dates are shit. They rarely work out. As soon as you have to rely on dating you're done, basically.
>>83450840So don't go on dates?Getting dates is literally what incels want and the way to get a gf.
>>83450778The hair color is not that imporant it is just something I like the most in women, I would be happy with a girl with any other hair color. I wish there would be a pill you could take that would reduce inhob without making you into an addict. Women really don't like high inhob men. Normies are not that bad desu just often very boring I think, it is just a small portion of them who are really bad. But I know they will never accept me as one of them no matter what I do.>>83450808I want a gf who shares enough of my interests and hobbies and my values, not just some random girl. But I guess at least trying to go on a date would not hurt, I was never on a date.
>>83450854>Getting dates is literally what incels wantThat must explain why they're incels then, dating is just simping with extra steps. Once you get sucked into that rabbit hole you'll never get out of it.
>>83450862>The hair color is not that imporant it is just something I like the most in womenSame. > Normies are not that bad desu just often very boring I thinkNo they're pretty bad. Have you forgotten about covid?
>>83450862>>83450864>I can't get a girlfriend because women's expectations are too high, or something>I'm not going to go on dates though, that's annoying
>>83450887They trust autotheory too much, but most I have talked with just went along and did not post how they want unvaxxed people to die, like I have said this is just a small but loud subsections of them, same with incels, most are just lonely men and not elliot rodger tier. That is why I think they are mostly boring because they just go with what is popular and that is it. I am glad that gaming got popular enough so now you won't get weird stares when you say you like gaming.
>>83450913That >>83450840 and >>83450864 is not me. I never was on a date and I would be happy to go on one as long as she does not abuse me as a free meal ticket.
>>83450913>I'm not going to go on dates though, that's annoyingMy parents didn't do it and neither did my grandparents. It runs in the family I guess, don't blame me. Don't blame me I'm just playing my part. >>83450935>I am glad that gaming got popular enough so now you won't get weird stares when you say you like gamingI still remember the days when you were a nerd for being good at games. Good times. I guess normies have changed their tune a little bit.
>>83450974It was just liking games in general, I think stuff like pokemon go and mobile gaming in general changed things a lot even if it is the most shallow games you can think of. I still remember a old guy at working bellitering me for liking games and then playing pokemon go with others a few weeks later because it was popular at that time.
>>83446216Are you belgian ....
>>83451256No because of the waffles? Are you american by any chance? I am from a country bordering belgium.
>>83451421No I'm belgian and waffles and cobblestone remind me of our cities
>>83451443It is just something very common in most central and western european cities I think, I was on the main market in my city going back to the 13th century, I am pretty sure they used cobblestone even back then.