I really feel like I don't fit in with any type of group, be it normies or incels...With normies I'm too weird, I'm autistic, struggle talking to people, can't make friends, I don't have any friends either, and I can barely stand up for myself. Girls have been ignoring me for ages and I was constantly bullied. I've struggled with mental health problems for 10+ years. I have very non normie interests and I always feel out of place when I'm with them. With incels I'm too normal, I've had a semi decent childhood minus the constant bullying, had a few decent friends for a bit before loosing them recently, I've experienced teenage love and a girlfriend if only for a few months, I'm not a KHHV, I'm pretty average looking leaning a bit on the attractive side. I'm able to hold down a job and I can sometimes hold down a conversation pretty well. I'm also really not that cynical and rude, I try my best to be nice to people because I know what it's like. ik a lot of you guys aren't rude but the loudest group is usually the rudest here.I really don't know what I am, I'm just drifting through life and it kinda sucks
>>83463055Same thing with me except I'm not being bullied. I'm just a ghost like Bruce in the sixth sense. I much prefer being here than with normies. Normies are infinitely worse.
>>83463055you seem kind of fucking annoying>wahhhh i dont belong here, I don't belong there wahhhgrow up
>>83463102normies are worse, I'm not currently being bullied but I was heavily bullied growing up and it's affected me.
>>83463113>I was heavily bullied growing up and it's affected mePeople weren't too kind with me when I was a kid either. But I got off easy, nobody ever beat me up or did anything really. Life was good, just empty.
>>83463127i wasn't beaten up either, just constant verbal and mental abuse.life has been empty and pretty mediocre
>>83463167Then we share a lot of similarities. I bet you also had acquintances who just vanished from your life as soon as you stopped going to the same places.
>>83463205yep, people would stop talking to me if i worked up the courage to mention I don't like being treated a certain way
>>83463211Kinda sucks. Especially when the people you think are your friends leave you for someone they barely talk to. Too bad.
>>83463105spbp. You're a failed normalfaggot OP you'r supposed to go keep sucking up to normalfaggots and kiss their ass because you really want to be one of them hence why you give a fuck about "fitting in" in the first place. Fuck off.
>>83463234yeah it really does. sucks more when people i thought where my friends just constantly treat me like shit and get pissy when i stand up to them...>>83463242i care about fitting in because i don't enjoy being isolated, i'd like to find people like me so I can actually talk to people sorry
>>83463271>sucks more when people i thought where my friends just constantly treat me like shit and get pissy when i stand up to them...It's because they were never your friends to begin with. Normies like to think friendship is just knowing someone. It's not. A friend is someone you know well and trust. How many people do you actually trust? Especially in a low-trust society?
>>83463288not many desu, maybe like 3 people....maybe im just weird, my ideas of friendship are all based on media, like Arthur and john from rdr2, okuyasu and josuke, yu and yosuke, a lot of other media. i just long for that kind of connection
>>83463271>i care about fitting in because i don't enjoy being isolatedNta however you're isolated either way, being a tool isn't better than being an observer.
>>83463304>i just long for that kind of connectionEverybody wants that. We're social beings, there's nothing wrong with wanting a connection. It's just very hard to attain. Especially nowadays.
>>83463308i dont really get how I'm being a tool or an observer....>>83463313it really does suck trying to find people that are genuine and want to be your friend. society just sucks in that aspect
>>83463333>society just sucks in that aspectsociety sucks in all aspects. It's not gonna get any better so you might as well get comfortable being alone. That's what I did, that's why I'm here. The only thing that's left for you to do is to just embrace the solitude.
>>83463345yeah maybe i should embrace it, bit annoying and it'll be hard to get used to since like i said i've grown up with so much media portraying friendship in a certain way that it got my hopes up. like how women have unrealistic ideas of romance due to the Disney movies and stuff
>>83463355>i've grown up with so much media portraying friendship in a certain way that it got my hopes up. like how women have unrealistic ideas of romance due to the Disney movies and stuffMedia can distort you expectations, and also your self-image. I used to think I was gonna be a hotshot engineer because I compared myself to fictional scientists. It's terrible. That stuff just rots your brain.
>>83463371yeah and I wasn't even comparing myself to anything crazy. was just expecting friendship like finn and jake, or gumball and darwin just to completely miss all that and get people bullying me all the time, shit sucks
>>83463410Just forget about what you see in cartoons and movies, anon. Just move on with your life and focus on you.
>>83463421yeah I'm gonna have to I guess, annoying but it's the only way
>>83463055Can relate, except bullying never got that bad and I have two friends now at 30. Also I can stand up for myself (bullying kinda hardened me a lot), have no mental health issues. And unlike you I never had a relationship and am khhv. Couldn't have had one in HS while being bullied, I dunno how you managed that.But still I just don't like people in general and while I have a good job, I'm living well below my means and saving/investing in order to retire early. This makes me hard to relate to normies, because unlike them, I don't chase materialism and women and marriage and family. Their lives and "achievements" look like hell to me, because they're all essentially wageslaves in order to pay their debts. I have no debt and I love that. And I love having free time and disposable income for my hobbies while still getting to save most of what I make.But going back to the KHHV part, it's entirely by choice, because I'm 6'2'', slim and overall above-average looking. If I compare myself to most other 30yr olds, I'm pretty much Chadlite because I haven't gone skinnyfat or bald. I get attention from women and always have, it's just always been ugly women I have no interest in, because better-looking women have plenty of options and don't approach as a result. I'm also kinda socially retarded around good-looking women and wouldn't know what to do if a good-looking one showed signs of being into me. But I'm ultimately volcel because women cost too much money and sanity and I'm too selfish and introverted.
>>83463505I have started standing up for myself recently, left my main group cause they where bullying me for so many years and I just got sick of it and left.I'm probably heading to where you are in life and if I'm being honest, I don't really mind it, you seem like a decent person and you're pretty cool
>>83463564Thanks.>left my main group cause they where bullying me for so many years and I just got sick of it and left.Good choice. My friends never bullied me but never defended me either, which now I think was very shitty of them. But anyway, I lost my HS friends about 2yrs after graduation because we all went our separate ways. In general, I had different friends depending on the stage of life I was in and the ones that stuck around are an online friend I met in a game in 2011 and an IRL friend I met in university. Being as introverted as I am, I don't need more and I might lose the IRL one to marriage in some years. Dunno why he's doing it because he doesn't seem happy with his chubby, borring, walled gf but whatever. I'm just happy playing vidya after work, getting to enjoy tech I could only dream of as a kid and once I retire in my 40s, maybe I'll try travelling, maybe SEAmaxxing if I somehow end up wanting a woman in my life. All I know is never marriage and never kids. I have too much money to lose and money is the only way I can escape the rat race and be free again. That freedom is the only thing I really miss from my childhood. Sure school sucked and the bullying sucked, but at least I was free and had no responsibilities.
>>83463656yeah the only friends to treat me decently are my online ones.....>I'm just happy playing vidya after work, getting to enjoy techhonestly same, always dreamed of having a pc as a kid and I finally was able to build one and I love it. eventually got around to messing with vr and I'm currently looking at an older thinkpad to run linux on and maybe some older versions of windows
>>83463698whoops meant to reply too, sorry about that >>83463669
>>83463698The ones who got to know me in university were all decent. Crazy to me how I went from knowing a bunch of assholes at 18 to suddenly only meeting decent people past 19. Like some sort of switch flipped in the normies' heads and they became far less assholey in an instant.>>83463698I'm thinking of getting a VR headset too, just worried about them causing eyesight issues but I'll have to look into that more deeply.>I'm currently looking at an older thinkpad to run linux on and maybe some older versions of windowsYea I hate where Windows is going too. I only run 10 IoT LTSC which is the last non-shit edition of Windows. I'm starting to migrate to Linux by dual-booting Bazzite with 10 LTSC on my ROG Ally and gaming PC. Bazzite for Steam games. Windows for pirated stuff where Linux still can't do it. I've also recently got a small ex-corporate mini PC (Lenovo M75n) and made a small home server out of it. Installed MX Linux Fluxbox and now I can remote into it through VNC. So far it's for backups (Syncthing and FTP) but I might also do a Pi-Hole on it.
just kill yourself nigger KEEEEEK
>>83463829absolutely hating where windows is going as well, been all over OS's this year with my pc, going from 11 to mint to arch then to cachy and finally back to 11 cause of the vr headset, used cachy the longest and I actually loved it, just being back on windows 11 is actually pissing me off but its whatever
>>83463844I'd be OK with the IoT LTSC version of 11 if MS didn't fuck up the taskbar. I love having the taskbar docked on the left edge of my screen. Every Windows from like...95 to 10 can do that, but 11 can't for some insane reason. >11 cause of the vr headsetWouldn't that also work on 10? I'd imagine it's just the graphics drivers that have to support VR and 10/11 are very similar under the hood.Was thinking of Cachy too because it has optimizations for Zen 4 CPUs, so it would work well on my ROG Ally. But Bazzite so far has been so problem-free and so good performance-wise that I don't see any reason to change. All of my machines are all-AMD.
>>83463862didnt even think of 10, i'd probably use it but i'm only using 11 cause i already got a install stick that came with my pc.....why cant pc stuff just work anymore man, tempted to get windows 7 running.....
>>83463881I used 7 until 2022 as my B450 board supports it and my old RX 570 8GB had 7 drivers. Probably wouldn't work now with my RX9070. Thing is, if your motherboard chipset and GPU has 7 driver support, then it works...but you'll face issues if you play DX12 games. But if most of what you play is older than 2020 and is also pirated, then it's doable and some DX12 games can be run using DXVK (bugs possible). Still, I'd recommend 10 IoT LTSC as it's supported until 2032 and it's 99% as good as 7 once you disable some services. And you don't have to buy it. You can get an untampered ISO (10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 21H2) and then activate it with massgravel HWID. I've never used 11 and I'd uninstall it immediatly if I got a laptop/PC with it. I consider it an anti-consumer malware/spyware OS. I didn't even like 10 at launch but 11 took 10 and made it much worse. 10 only gets praised now because 11 is so much worse..
>>83463910no one gives a fuck you nerd tie the fucking knot already
>>83463055serves you right. original
>>83463910just checked and my board doesnt support it.......I would swap to 10 loT LTSC but i've changed OS's so much this year I'm just over it and staying on something till i can muster up the energy to do it again, which will probably be linux once I eventually get all my problems sorted, so i'm sticking on 11 till linux gets to that point...
>>83463917No thanks, I'll let you oofy-doofys enjoy the roasties, dead bedrooms and divorce rape. Man-child life is superior.
>>83463932based as fuck lol
>>83463055This is a good threadI think the issue with this whole situation is the way categories are constructed and the assumptions that resultIf we could see ourselves in others and empathise and let go of ego and identity a bit maybe it would help someThere's enough relationships to go around, actually
do you really need a tag on you? are you anxious that your whole existence cannot be described by a single word?