>>83472722
i'm a real girl but i'm obese, real girls who are also pretty prefer to attentionwhore elsewhere nowadays. i come here because i can get attention for being female because none of you are picturing the girl you're interacting with to look monstrous

>>83472722
I put my peepee inside a fembot's front hole though... Must've taken a lot of stretching...

>>83472731
What if I'm i to fat women tho and imagine every chick on here to be 200+ pounds huh? Ever thought of that???

>>83472738
you still imagine an fat woman that's more or less put together and with a good face

>>83472722
Its sad that even the most dedicated incel turns into a simp the second a tranny larps as foid to get attention in here.

>>83472746
the "in" in incel implies it being involuntary, if he doesn't care about women then he's a volcel

>>83472722
a lot of female content creators use this board

>>83472745
I'm sure your face is fine, physical attraction is mostly about the body anyhow.

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>>83472722
water is wet.
most here are fags or reddit trolls.
90% of troons look like chris chan, the other 10% are busy getting paid from paypigs.
>>83472783
see what I'm saying?
>female (redditors use female)
>content creators

this place is a shithole, reddit is a shithole, incels.is is a shithole, everywhere is a shithole.

Most of them aren't even trannies. They're just guys shit-posting for attention because the jeets will invariably respond. Which is a sort of tranny I guess.

>>83472877
Now hold on a minute, pal. I don't use the word "woman" because I don't acknowledge women's humanity. An animal is either male or female.

>>83472878
LARPing as a girl online is AGP.
Which is the first step of becoming a tranny.

>>83472722
i come here because i am an ewhore and i can get anonymous attention here

>>83473575
Want some personalized attention I am discrete, polite, and capable of stringing words together into sentences even when fapping.

>>83472722
Not true. There are fembots here. I even dated one from here.

there are both trannies and females

>>83472751
Youre right, but caring about a man makes you gay, I understand gay incels exist, anon, you vouched for it.

>>83472722
Its funny to read this as a bio fem kek

>>83473744
Why do you come to this place when so many anons have soggy knees?

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Im just autistic, sorry

>>83472722
There are some biofem here. I come on because I am autistic and lonely

>>83473846
You'd be less lonely if you dated robots. Not me. But other robots. Multiples of them. All at once.

>>83473875
I'm already dating a robot (or /g/ nerd) from here, but I don't really have friends.

>>83473920
You need friends to not be lonely? The few times I've been in a relationship I felt overwhelmed with just the one person. I can't imagine having friends and a gf. I don't even have friends now and I feel slightly overwhelmed replying to people here.

>>83472722
I'm fine with it. I'm not into troons but if it makes them feel lady like and makes me feel like I'm talking to a real girl. We both win. I don't ever want to see their face though. I'm more looking for friends who happen to be girls (in theory) anyway. My life isn't steady enough for dating.

>>83473927
I enjoy hearing about people's lives, I guess? Playing videogames is better with others. My boyfriend is often busy with work, so it gets a bit lonely sometimes.
>overwhelmed with just the one
Maybe it depends on the people. I get very drained quickly with peeps that I have to filter myself around.

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i'm a woman but but men here accuse me of being a gay moid or tranny because i like shotas

>>83473965
I like hearing about people's lives too but it gets tiring quickly. In a relationship I can talk to someone for hours on end but with friends I have to take frequent breaks. I've never cared to play videogames with other people. It makes me feel like I have an obligation to keep playing or to enjoy it and it sucks all the fun out. I feel most lonely when I have a lot of friends. Like there's something wrong with me, making me incapable of connecting properly. I miss being in a relationship, I feel more normal like that, like I'm actually able to connect for a change. But relationships are hard and I'm not really a functional person so getting into one, let alone keeping one going, is virtually impossible. At least I'm happy alone. I don't know why I'm blogging right now such a faux pas.

>>83473987
you're secretly a lesbian

>>83473999
elaborate? real life flesh and bone adult women have nothing in common with cute little anime boys
well, not even jaded adult men do for that matter, but this doesn't equate to repressed female homosexuality

>>83473987
Do you just like anime shotas or real life shotas?

>>83474082
There's no such thing as real life shotas, those are little kids anon

>>83474082
well anime shotas are infinitely cuter than any real kid but i do think some little boys are adorable and cute but that is natural, kids are not exempt from the scale of physical beauty

I got called a troon because I am interested in ww2 and mentioned it a few times. I got into it because of hetalia in middle school and no moid likes hetalia. It's easier to find the bigfoot

>>83473990
you remind me of my bf slightly, he acts in a similar way. he can ramble endlessly to me but has no wish to make friends unless i drag him to. maybe it's to do with your childhood? he grew up alone whilst i had some friends
>frequent breaks
i do this a bit to be honest, but again, filter thing
>obligation
i think you should try be more direct, i am able to leave because i'm blunt maybe
>something wrong with me
i doubt it, society is messed up
>miss relationship
how long did your old one last?
>relationships hard
you grow together and make things easier for eachother. worth it 100%

>>83474145
that's just ur maternal instinct nona

>>83474256
um well not really i've had some questionable and shameful urges that are definitely not innocent. i think it's pathological. sometimes i wish i could get therapy for it but i don't want to air out my dirty laundry to anyone even if it's about 2d characters

>>83474298
i mean it depends
what exactly is attractive about shotas?

>>83474094
If you say so.

>>83474298
>i've had some questionable and shameful urges that are definitely not innocent.
Can you tell us?

>>83474247
My childhood was very lonely and I was essentially taught to not make friends.
>i do this a bit to be honest, but again, filter thing
For me it's not that I have to filter. I just doubt that people want me around and it makes me unhappy. In a relationship it's easier because of the level of affection. I hide all of this of course, no one has ever known I feel this way.
>i think you should try be more direct
I should, but I don't want to hurt their feelings. It feels like being stabbed to get rejected like that so I would never want to do it to someone else.
>i doubt it, society is messed up
It is but my ability to bond with other people is almost 0. I go months without even speaking aloud. I can't make a friendship last more than a few weeks. I don't think I even want friends. There's a lot more wrong with me than that anyway, I'm kind of a nutcase.
>how long did your old one last?
6 months. That was years ago.
>worth it 100%
It is. I just don't think I can make things easier for anyone. I can be supportive and loving but I'm ossified and non-functional. Not many women are looking for a pet and I am, at best, a dog that can cook and clean. Most of my issues are unlikely to ever resolve and inflicting that upon someone seems evil anyway. I don't want to sound too depressive here, I am doing the best I can and I'm ok with how things are. I just understand that ok for me is not anywhere close to ok for anyone else.

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>>83474331
i like their innocence and cuteness. their lively childhood excitement and eager curiosity about the world is very cute to me
>>83474367
it's shameful so i don't want to go into detail about it but you can probably infer that it's inappropriate from how i phrased the post
it makes me think that this may be a problem

>>83474373
>very lonely and I was essentially taught to not make friends.
interesting but i won't poke you for more info :) moreover, it might just be a gender thing..?? girls like to be with people and stuff e.g girls travel in packs to the toilet whereas men are ok with doing things solo (usually)
either way, i'm sorry for you anon
>doubt that people want me around and it makes me unhappy
you realise the solution to this is just... asking people? going 'hey, am i being a bother to you'? also... why would they linger around you if they don't like you? :)
>level of affection
you said you still feel uneasy sometimes though
>don't want to hurt their feelings
oh anon...
people will forget something as simple as you saying goodbye and leaving, it's okay
most peeps only ever think about themselves
>ability to bond with other people is almost 0
whaat? don't put yourself down like that, we're engaging in a pretty nice conversation right now :)
>can't make a friendship last more than a few weeks
honestly i can kind of see why based on this convo (not confrontational) but why do you think that is?
>nutcase
there are other nutcases out there
>6 months. That was years ago.
not too bad. how many have you had?
>a dog that can cook and clean
you could be a house-husband of some sort. don't dismiss the idea so quickly
>inflicting that upon someone seems evil
then why not try harder to better yourself?

>>83472722
I'm a real female but I'm fat (not obese though), which is the biggest sin a woman can commit according to /r9k/ (and I don't entirely disagree).
I think most of the fembots here fall into one of these following categories
>troon (so a fake fembot)
>real female but fat
>real female and thin but ugly
>real female and pretty but a slut (is here for attention)

>>83474525
so there's not much of a physical factor then? i doubt you are a risk honestly

>>83474535
I would be fine with the first 3

>>83474525
>it's shameful
it's not shameful. its just a fantasy. we all have things we think of that are probably morally bad but we just don't act on them

>>83474535
I know several girls from here. They not ugly either.

>>83474541
no there's definitely a physical factor too
i would not be as interested as i am if i weren't attracted physically in some way to them
initially it started out innocent. they elicited the same reaction as a cute kitten, but it started being less innocent, which makes me feel bad

>>83474572
They're in the last category

>>83474561
it's shameful because they look like little kids though

>>83474630
as long as you arent hurting them though. are you just being motherly?

>>83474526
>whereas men are ok with doing things solo (usually)
To some extent it is a gendered difference, but I have much more desire to be alone than the average man in my experience.
>you realise the solution to this is just... asking people
Yeah but I still worry. If someone asked me, I'd lie and say it was all good. I don't ever talk to anyone like we're doing now except anonymously. I keep my problems inside.
> why would they linger around you if they don't like you?
I know logically that they wouldn't stick around if they didn't like me, but I also can't logically figure out why they would like me.
>you said you still feel uneasy sometimes though
I do, I'm very sensitive to any changes in language or action. I try to keep my level of affection stable, but most people don't consider it at all. So if they're busy or whatever it dips and then I'm suddenly thinking oh they're getting tired of this I need to prepare for it to be over. That all stays internal though, no one has ever figured out how much whiplash I go through.
>people will forget
I know, but it makes me feel bad to do it. On top of that I don't really get much out of friendships anyway. I feel so separate from them.
>don't put yourself down like that
I think it's just objective fact. I can talk to people, like we're doing now, but it's not really a bond. Even in relationships it's more cognitive than emotional
>why do you think that is?
I just withdraw from it. I know how to do a relationship, but not a friendship. It feels strange and uncomfortable to be friends with someone.
>how many have you had?
Just two
>house-husband
I would love to be, but it's a rare arrangement
>why not try harder to better yourself?
I do a lot of things that are ostensibly healthy, but my mental problems are permanent and severe. I know I have good qualities, but the bad is very bad. There is probably some woman out there who could accept it all and be happy with what I offer, but the odds of finding her are slim.

>>83474657
>more desire to be alone than the average man
if being alone works for you, then so be it
>I keep my problems inside
a stranger on the internet isn't going to convince you out of this, but maybe think otherwise about doing this. you seem like a logical thinker
>can't logically figure out why they would like me
fair enough, i can't tell why my boyfriend likes me either
>all stays internal though
sounds like a very stressful life you have...
i think a therapist would help with this, to be honest
>not really a bond
then what is a bond to you? (no chemistry/physics puns allowed)
>strange and uncomfortable to be friends with someone
understandable, i hope you meet the right people someday
friendships are supposed to just.. click
>odds of finding her are slim
yeah but don't stop searching. being with your soulmate is basically 100%ing life

>>83472722
Not sure. I've seen some messed up women in my time. And some of them were far more cringe than the ones on here. Though I suppose you could be right.

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>>83474640
well i'm obviously not planning on hurting any real life kids because i am cognizant of the damage i would cause and the consequences of my actions. and no, i wouldn't say this is just a manifestation of my motherly instincts though i do have a desire to take care of the cute boys, but this is not the primary drive of my interest in them.

>>83474803
>but this is not the primary drive of my interest in them.
Then what is your primary drive?

>>83474737
>maybe think otherwise about doing this
I have considered it at times, especially in those relationships as I started to feel more comfortable. It's just difficult. Opening up to someone I'm beginning to trust is so dangerous for me. I really don't think I could handle it if they dismissed me
>i can't tell why my boyfriend likes me either
Have you asked him? I've been asked that question before and my answer seemed to make them feel better about things
>sounds like a very stressful life you have
It's only stressful when I'm around people. I have done therapy before, but my mental problems are not what most therapists want to deal with. I've been rejected from therapy before, told that there was no real path forward, and so on. I had some successes with therapy for depression and anxiety, but those aren't really issues for me anymore.
>then what is a bond to you?
I'll avoid the puns but a bond is. Well it's hard to describe. Caring for a person and wanting them around when they're not. Thinking about them when they're absent. I've never felt that connection to a friend. Even in relationships it doesn't feel as automatic as I want it to be, like I'm missing that part of me. Rationally I can love someone, and I have, and can understand that I want them around and am missing them, but the emotional part just doesn't work how it should. It's also very frightening to be in that position, relying on another person for my emotional well being. I've spent most of my life ensuring that I'm completely self sustaining and judiciously pruning anything that threatens that. It's a very unhealthy way to live but that was really my only way of adapting to reality
>i hope you meet the right people someday
Thank you, I hope you meet some nice friends as well. I do appreciate you listening to me
>being with your soulmate is basically 100%ing life
Agreed, I won't stop searching but I don't really have any hope of it happening. I am open to it at least

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>>83474817
i guess i want to hug and squeeze and kiss them
does this count as a motherly instinct?

>>83474843
>don't think I could handle it if they dismissed me
I'm not really sure what advice to give here, I'm sorry... just how your attachment to peeps work
>Have you asked him?
yeah, he said i'm cute, sweet and have a nice personality or something. it's hard to describe love
>mental problems are not what most therapists want to deal with
surely you're american, this cannot be real...
>rejected from therapy before, told that there was no real path forward
those therapists sound like jerks who probably barely graduated uni
>bond
i would say it's just having a mutual connection over something and getting along because of it, to be honest
>never felt that connection to a friend
how about you try to be friends with women? male x male friendships are very... simple and don't really have emotional layers attached to them, just a mutual purpose in something
>was really my only way of adapting to reality
what about now?

>>83474875
Hmm, yeah it can do. You want to look after them but also give them affection. What's wrong with that?

>>83474894
well, it just makes me feel defective because the problem is normal men don't attract me sexually in any way, meaning i've never been in a relationship of any sort which has led me to think i was simply asexual for a long time, then one day i somehow started taking an interest in these drawings of cute boys and i realized my sexual desire was somehow redirected there. this is why i said this is a pathological thing. it makes me feel that i have no choice now but to somehow rid myself of this, even though i don't know how this started in the first place. i guess i'm mentally ill.

>>83474951
I see. Well i dont think there's anything wrong with it desu, especially since you're focused mostly on anime shotas. i doubt you can get rid of it as well. those things never disappear you kinda just try your best to forget but they always lurk. do you ever read doujins about them being involved with women? or is it strictly just focused on them as solo?

>>83474892
>just how your attachment to peeps work
Yeah it's just how I am. I'll live
>it's hard to describe love
It is. But it's nice to hear people try
>surely you're american, this cannot be real
I am indeed American. In their defense, my disorder has no cure, no treatment path, no research funding, and a terrible prognosis. Trying to treat me knowing that it won't do any good is malpractice
>mutual connection over something and getting along because of it
Maybe, I don't know. I want more and deeper I guess which is probably strange given that I don't like being near people. I think ultimately I just want one person that I can be extremely close to and share everything with, and vice versa of course.
>how about you try to be friends with women?
That's actually what I typically do on the rare occasions I try to have friends. I don't know how to talk to guys at all. It's still hard though. Typically we'll talk a lot for a few days and then the conversation dies and no one brings it back and we stop talking entirely. Penpals can last longer, but communicating like that prevents us from really getting close. In person is pretty much impossible because I don't get out often, or at all.
>what about now?
I'm older and more in control now so I can stop myself from doing the pruning, but it's still an urge and it's still protective. The one stable theme of my life is that everyone leaves in the end. Ensuring that their departure doesn't hurt is important, but it does get in the way of me being able to really open up to anyone.

>>83474972
no i don't really like /ss/ stuff. most of it is incredibly gross to me because it's evidently not made to appeal to women and it's impossible for me to self insert as some nymphomaniac large breasted bimbo who is obsessed with getting her hands on kids to fuck. it's so perverse. nevermind the fact that the poor shotas never get the chance to be actual people in those sorts of doujins, they're just faceless mannequins. it's really a shame how 99% of doujins involving shotas with women are like this. however this is not a huge loss for me because i prefer shota on shota/loli or oniishota anyway, and also solo like you said. i'm somehow not really interested in self inserting and have more of a voyeuristic behavior when it comes to this sort of content

>>83475015
I actually do agree that the /ss/ stuff is pretty much for men.
>and have more of a voyeuristic behavior when it comes to this sort of content
Just prefer to watch something happen between others then?

>>83474996
what disorder do you have? surely they can implement other ways to help you via CBT
>I want more and deeper I guess which is probably strange given that I don't like being near people
i wish i could get to the deep stuff before doing small talk with people >.>
>I am indeed American
my condolences lmao, your healthcare runs purely off greed
>just want one person that I can be extremely close to and share everything with, and vice versa of course
yeah, same. i would love to have a best friend i could do a bunch of things with :'(
but these people are so hard to find
i feel as though the only way to make lifelong friends was in highschool. that's pretty much how people keep to a social circle nowadays
>we stop talking entirely
i can relate, i made a few friends in highschool but we barely even talk anymore nowadays
>In person is pretty much impossible because I don't get out often, or at all
there's not really anywhere to meet people as well..

>>83475053
yes
i enjoy seeing shotas happy and in love for the first time
it makes me melancholic about my own childhood becuase i never really loved anyone like that, but i enjoy seeing it playing out for others. it's sweet and cute

>>83472722
It's so sad how often they get replies, even I'll occasionally reply to one of the threads, when the reality is that it's like 3 obese ugly women and then a handful of mentally ill men with AGP.

>>83475056
>what disorder do you have?
I'd rather not say because it's fairly uncommon, but there are no treatment pathways for it. CBT is effective for some of the other stuff, like depression, but the core disorder is not known to be treatable. It's also not a cool disorder like schizophrenia so no one cares to study it and there are no pharmaceutical options either.
>i wish i could get to the deep stuff before doing small talk
I like that as well. Sometimes I'll talk to someone and they'll immediately get into something heavy or deep and it's quite nice.
>your healthcare runs purely off greed
It really does. I don't even have insurance anymore so I'm kind of out of luck if I get sick
>i would love to have a best friend i could do a bunch of things with
I was thinking more along the lines of a relationship but then my ideal relationship would have my partner be my best friend so same difference I guess. I had friends in high school but they just melted away. Or I melted away rather. I don't know, people change quickly around that age.
>we barely even talk anymore nowadays
I think as people get older they reprioritize. Career, family, all that. Friendship keeps getting dropped lower and then just slides off. I don't know how anyone has time for friends when they're all working 40+ hours a week or raising kids and whatnot. Then again, I have none of that and I hardly feel like I have space in my life for friends so maybe it's a me problem.
>there's not really anywhere to meet people as well
I've had more luck finding people to talk to here than anywhere else. It feels like something is wrong if that's the case though. I can't remember how I made friends in school. It just kind of happened.

>>83475144
>it's sweet and cute
I like that. I'm sure shotas feel love just as much as anyone else. I'm sorry about to hear about your own childhood. I suppose we try to live through media to feel emotions if we never experienced it ourselves. By the way, I like speaking with you at this particular subject. I don't suppose you would want to speak outside of r9k? My email is proton1291n@proton.me if you want to that is.

>>83475192
anon, would you like to exchange emails? o_o it's getting a bit late for me but you were nice to talk with

>>83475226
You were nice to talk to as well but I don't think I'm in a good place to talk one on one at the moment. I'm sorry, I did enjoy this. I hope you have a good night.

>>83475223
sorry but i'm really anxious and get cold feet when i'm not talking anonymously, please don't hate me lol, but if you're curious about anything else i don't mind answering, it feels better talking to someone about this rather than spiraling about it in my head but i'm also curious why you're interested in it

>>83472722
>Real women do not come to virgin hellholes like here
Some of us are ugly and weird and have no where else to go. Why do you guys think being a loser is a male only thing? Yes, women can be virgin losers too but we're usually ugly and not the cute girl youre picturing in your head.

>>83475391
It's fine, I dont mind. I suppose you answered most of the things I was thinking. You did mention having a sexual desire for shotas, I guess you never elaborated on that beyond kissing and hugging. Is that all you want from them? And why I am interested? I also like shotas, probably because something happened to me as a child that. But it's just interesting to hear it from a female perspective.

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>>83475429
oh, it feels better to know that you also like shotas nonny. discussions are more fun when there is a shared interest. i think as a female shotacon though, my perspective may be a bit lackluster or even idealistic because the etiology of my desire is not really grounded in a childhood memory like it usually seems to be for male shotacons. but their experiences also seem very polarizing, because while some guys got molested some just want to relive the naughty fun they had as kids, or reliving their first innocent boy crush, while others got bullied for being gay and use shota as escapism... there are so many different registsers of experience. it actually reminds me of this book a swedish guy wrote, impossibly cute boys, which actually talks about this specific thing. you should give it a read if you're also interested in the psychology of this stuff.
and as for my sexual desires, i don't have any exaggeratedly sexual ones, this is because i can't help but think that if i were actually acting on my desires i would be hurting the boy. i really hate seeing shotas get hurt even if it's just a drawing or something. and if it really came down to it, i'd probably only be ok with doing it if we were both kids. but like i said i still feel somewhat bad about it because at the end of the day i'm fantasizing about these characters inappropriately.

>>83475192
Schizoid personality disorder right? Your pathology is very similar to mine.

troons are based

>>83475660
Yes, I don't know why I didn't want to say. It's not like anyone is going to recognize me. How is it treating you?

>Oh look, it's this thread for the hundredth time TODAY
Yeah, all those nude pics (including pussy) with timestamps that women posted are definitely trannies.

>>83475574
>impossibly cute boys
Thanks. I'll go check it out! And yeah you probably won't have the same understanding compared to a boy that was molested when he was a shota. But it sounds like you have an idea regardless. Shotas do have naughty fun. At least I did with other girls my age at the time.
>this is because i can't help but think that if i were actually acting on my desires i would be hurting the boy.
Why would it hurt them if it just involves loving them? I think you're worried too much.

>>83472722
>foids would never seek validation from simps on the internet
okay pal

>>83475716
I have a successful career (remote job of course). Im in good shape and with SSRIs for the obligatory depression Id say Im not doing too bad mental health wise.
I guess im a high functioning schizoid but as i get older it pains me knowing that I have basically squandered my youth in a room alone and will likely die alone. I console myself with the thought that normies get a raw deal too and life is just a big, cruel ordeal.
What do you think caused yours? In my case, i had an alcoholic mother who I think taught me to associate closeness and love with danger as i was constantly on edge if she was going to break into another drinking binge.

>>83472722
I've been here for over a decade and have talked to a bunch of confirmed women who added me

There's literally 10 bio women for every tranny on this board, maybe even 100 to 1

>>83475865
There was a straw poll here and it was literally a 5 to 1 ratio of troons to bio fems.

>>83475839
>I console myself with the thought that normies get a raw deal too and life is just a big, cruel ordeal.
how exactly do normies get a raw deal when they end up marrying, having kids etc

>>83475839
I tried to get a remote job but it never materialized. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, if my employment history was just too spotty, or if I come off strange in interviews. I'm lower functioning though and prone to periods of complete seclusion. I get those pains of realizing that I've wasted my youth as well but they pass quickly and I stop caring. I don't know if I think that life is cruel or not. I am mostly ok with my life and I don't feel resentful or angry about anything. I do wish for better things though.
Mine was caused by similar. My mother was a narcissistic addict and neglected me. My father didn't like being home with her so he worked constantly. By the time things stabilized I already had siblings and the only attention I got was when I acted out. I was also subjected to various strange things bordering on abuse.

>>83475786
well, i guess even if it feels good in the moment, the kid may grow up to resent the experience. maybe they didn't like that person, or maybe they felt powerless in that moment. that's why even if consent was involved, i would feel wrong about it because i fully know what i'm doing but the kid doesn't. that's why it's ideal for both kids to be the same age, or closer in age, because they are both exploring their bodies for the first time and that's the purest expression of their sexuality. but yeah i guess i do worry a bit too much, we're just talking about 2d characters at the end of the day

>>83475865
full of cope