hobbies don't work anymore. when i was younger i used to think i could find fulfillment in watching anime and playing vidya until the day i croak, but i don't see myself doing this for god knows how many years i've got left. don't get me wrong, i don't hate my life or anything. i feel fortunate being in a situation where i've got enough resources available to me to the point where i never have to think about working some soulless dead end job. i just wish i wasn't so numb to everything. i wish i could feel intense sensations again, whether it's happiness, sadness, anger etc. i simply don't feel anything anymore and haven't for a very long time. every day is exactly the same and i'm extremely tired of everything. i'm 25 for reference. how do you older neet anons manage to keep finding fulfillment in life? or if not fulfillment, then stuff that makes you feel things intensely and helps you keep going?
>>83481208You gotta learn how to find joy in the little things in life. It wasn't that your hobbies couldn't bring you fulfilment, maybe you just went about the wrong way. Need a different mindset.
just get new hobbies or watch different anime/vidya. Being on a rut is normal
>>83481726>Need a different mindset.it's not like i didn't try. for the last few years, i tried fooling myself into thinking i'm living an amazing life. i tried keeping optimistic and cheerful all the time. but deep down i knew i was living in a lie. i just don't see the point of keeping up a fake cheerful facade like that. i tried switching up my hobbies too. i even tried more active hobbies that required me to go outside (was a complete hikki beforehand) nothing ever made me feel anything. i'm talking positive OR negative feelings. i just feel numb. that's all there is. maybe i need a gf or something. but that's not an option for someone like me. just wanna scream into the void on christmas for a bit. >>83481756i've been in this rut for about a year now is the problem. this past year has been like a never ending quarter life crisis and i dunno how to hit the breaks and make it stop. when i get tired of anime and vidya, i usually switch to other stuff like tokusatsu, western cartoons and comix, pro wrestling, and so on, but even those things don't make me feel anything anymore. i used to be such a man of genuine passion. now i'm a follow husk of what i used to be. i miss caring about dumb bullshit like some obscure manga author from the 1960s who published 2 works before committing seppukku. but everything just feels so worthless now. i wanna do stuff in the real world, but my situation doesn't really allow for that. i'm just tired of living like i'm in purgatory, full of fake experiences.
try blackmailing rich people infront of a big sentencingif that wontwork not sure what willoh anyway >god knows how many years i got lefttheres many lifespan extending stuff, search on google i heard omaga 3 is good.
>>83481208how does your day look like? I'm a neet myself and I've noticed that the less mimdless distractions like 4chan I have and the more time I spend on relaxing pasttimes like evening walks, the more I enjoy consooming media.I'm thinking about taking a break from the internet, except the gacha I play
>>83482029>try blackmailing rich people infront of a big sentencingthat sounds like fun, but easier said than done >theres many lifespan extending stuff, search on google i heard omaga 3 is good.NOOO, i got the opposite problem. i don't wanna live that long, i'm just too cowardly to kill myself. or rather, i don't like the risk of failing and turning into a vegetable (don't have access to guns here in eastern eu) >>83482055>how does your day look like?before my recent mental breakdown it was something like this: >wake up >cook breakfast >hit the gym >walk back home and hit the supermarket along the way to stock up for lunch and dinner >cook my other meals>play vidya or watch stuff for the rest of the day right now it's just:>wake up>browse this place all day >pass out and wake up even more tired the next day the thing is, i stopped finding even my pre-mental breakdown lifestyle fulfilling. i guess i'm just bitter and frustrated for not being able to do fun crazy stuff and have real life experiences and make memories that aren't just the same few repetitive routines forever. i realized i don't wanna look back at my life and think "wow, i did fucking nothing worth remembering and now i'm gonna die" so all i care about right now is trying to brute force my way into a fun life.
>>83482115I'm wondering what the mental breakdown was about. Not that I can help in any way.By the way, don't talk to this steve namefag. He replies with semi-related babble in a lot of the threads
>>83482174>I'm wondering what the mental breakdown was about. i mentioned a bit about it in the previous post. it's hard to properly put into words but i'll try. i guess i woke up randomly one day and thought "fuck, i'm 25 and my life is probably never getting any more fun than this. i'm just gonna be stuck doing the same repetitive bs and distracting myself until i die." and that sent me down spiraling further and further every day. do you get what i mean? time flies by so fast and i don't wanna look back on my life and have absolutely nothing to show for it in terms of memories and experiences. i have about as much life experience as a 10 year old if i can be honest with you. i haven't done anything. i wish i could, but my circumstances don't allow it. i'm anti social but i still crave to be around people and to feel loved. but the older i get, the more there's gonna be a huge gap in life experience between me and people my age; as for younger people, i don't relate to them at all. we might as well have existed in parallel timelines (i'm mostly talking about people who're like 18 right now) anyway sorry for sounding so incoherent, i'm just overwhelmed with everything right now. most people my age might as well have lived 3 separate lifetimes compared to me. i'm not sure what i'd even talk to them about other than dumb escapist hobby stuff. i just feel like i exist in a bubble separate from the rest of the world. >By the way, don't talk to this steve namefag. He replies with semi-related babble in a lot of the threadsoh, i don't even notice if someone is a namefag, i don't look at people's names. reminds me of this one schizo, Christ, was it? he'd post threads all day every day about how the FBI is trying to defraud him. crazy stuff.
also >tfw i don't even look unique or interesting enough for people here to turn me into a meme even though i've faceposted a bunch of times before this somehow feels worse than getting mocked for my appearance
>>83481208Watching anime isn't a "hobby". You're just passively consooming. Do something active that engages your mind and body and gives you respect from yourself and others.
>>83482675>Do something active that engages your mind and body and gives you respect from yourself and others.ok. now what?
>>83482675>hobby>a regular activity done in your free time for enjoyment, pleasure, or relaxation, without the primary goal of making a profitWatching anime is a hobby.
>>83481208Become buddhist. Theres nothing to chase
>>83483065i legitimately would if there was a buddhist temple near me. seems comfy to hang out and meditate with the bros. they'd probably kick me out due to my lack of discipline though lelele i;m too much of a delinquent at heart
>>83483100Listen to alan watts on youtube. Its an easy entry to buddhism i think it would help you
>>83481208Hobbies with people irl. It's the hardest part of life.
>>83483178>Listen to alan watts on youtube. Its an easy entry to buddhism i think it would help youthank you for the rec, gonna look him up right now >>83483213>Hobbies with people irlthat's the problem, i have no people irl. i'm land locked to a small eastern european retirement town where the average person on the street could be my great grandmother
all i want for christmas is femanon neck bites....
>>83481208>I have enough resources available to me to never work a soul-crushing jobUnfortunately anon that's a double-edged sword when it comes to happiness. Without god or a greater purpose, having new/better things is an easy thing most people work towards. The people who rid themselves of all their possessions are actually based, just extremists. To assert my authority on this next topic, I took Zoloft for two weeks last year and my dick still doesn't work. When is the last time you *actually* felt happy, anon? I mean while addressing your daily tasks you just think to yourself, "fuck it's good to be alive?" Depression is a physical thing that everyone experiences to some extent, I think how you deal with it defines you. Here are my suggestions:>Find a long-term skill you can spend ~20 minutes on every day. Languages, instruments, even plants.>Find at least one person you can be fully autistic with about your own hobbies, but who can also swap a hobby the other hasn't done.Anyway I'm just as shitty as everyone else so these are just suggestions. I will however, recommend that you do the following soon:>Somatic shaking. For starters, literally stand a little wide or lay down in bed and just shake for like 5+ minutes. If you don't at least cry a little you're not doing it right.>Meditate for at least 30 minutes. Do not think about yourself either.>Write a short (1-2 page) autobiography about yourself. Then, write another page about what you'd like to do in your life. Make a SMART goal for each one, you can decide from there.If there's anything I think I hate the most in this world, it's the people who say "you can do anything you set your mind to." I hate them because they're right, but setting your mind to something is the hardest thing to accomplish in life. Good luck anon.
>>83481208> i used to think i could find fulfillment in watching anime and playing vidya until the day i croakThis is me from 2013-2019. I've been consuming free, torrented, digital multimedia to the max during those years. Had a genuine interest, fascination and enthusiasm about it. Felt great and thought "Man this feels good. I want this to last forever". Oh boy how wrong I was. I think that as you age, your mental state changes so you no longer perceive all those things as interesting.
>>83484535>Without god or a greater purpose, having new/better things is an easy thing most people work towards. The people who rid themselves of all their possessions are actually based, just extremists.oh, i understand that perfectly. i'm not one for material possessions, either. i can't remember the last time i bought something that wasn't necessary for my survival like food or water. the older i get, the less value i see in physical things. >When is the last time you *actually* felt happy, anon? I mean while addressing your daily tasks you just think to yourself, "fuck it's good to be alive?"the most depressing thing about this question is that i legitimately cannot remember. i feel good after i work out, but that's just because my body releases endorphins and the feeling never lasts too long. i'm starting to think i never ever felt genuinely happy in my life, fuck. >Find a long-term skill you can spend ~20 minutes on every day. Languages, instruments, even plants.that is sound advice. i've got things i enjoy doing, whether it's exercising, writing, guitar stuff, but it's getting harder and harder to find the motivation to do them every day. even when i was consistent with them, it honestly didn't make me any happier, just distracted for a bit. but maybe that's what life is all about. >Find at least one person you can be fully autistic with about your own hobbies, but who can also swap a hobby the other hasn't done.i would if i could. i'm so lonely, honestly. i need someone to get me out of my head when the thoughts get too overwhelming. >Good luck anon.thank you for the long and thoughtful post. i always end up in such a slump around the holidays (more than usual) because they always remind me of how lonely and meaningless my life feels. >>83484612i'm glad i'm not alone in this. when i think back on how much genuine curiosity and enthusiasm i used to have for these things, it almost makes me feel like a different person. thought it'd last forever...
>>83484674> when i think back on how much genuine curiosity and enthusiasm i used to have for these things, it almost makes me feel like a different person. thought it'd last forever...Yeah, same. I think that I've listened to over 200 000 songs from 2013-2015. Listened to all kinds of genres. Listened to Billboard 100 and UK Top 40 chars from the 1950s onwards, just exploring. At the end of 2015, I started playing WoW on Nostalrius and then started dabbling on private WoW servers until the release of Classic. 2017 and 2018 was my "great anime expansion" where I watched anime almost every day. I think the problem is that those kind of activities, while enjoyable, fry your dopamine receptors so you can't enjoy them as much or at all anymore. Maybe the solution is to start intentionally doing hard things that don't give instant gratification. There's a book on z-lib about that called Dopamine Detox : A Short Guide to Remove Distractions and Get Your Brain to Do Hard Things
I feel fulfilled when I work hard. When I used to draw, the process of creating something and the result I achieved made me feel pretty satisfied, and when I write something (essay or fiction (or a paper, though it's for uni so it is not doable for neets)), I can see myself putting lots of effort on constructing the text and I feel happy and stressed. I feel apathetic in general, but the principle of putting effort into something is a great way to feel fulfilled for me. It doesn't need to be fully intellectual.I think you could achieve the same if you start keeping a garden or cooking something from the scratch. Imagine you have just flour, water and yeast, and then you mix them, put some flour on the bench and start kneading and kneading with the strength of your shoulder and waist, and then you put it to rest for 30m, then put some flour again and knead it again, and then finally put it in the oven for a few hours... and it's finally ready!This is not just a silly narration (well, just a little), you can see a full timeline of action, you know? And the time, the different actions and your investment on the activicty and the feelings you had through it... that's what create meaning. Not that anime and vidya aren't meaningful too, but the difference is that you are working on something, producing a kind of raw thing instead of receive a raw thing from a third party, and that is meaningful.So open your notepad and start writing something: a diary, some essay about any theme or work you've seen, or your reflection on something. Start cooking other foods, pastries or desserts in general sounds fun.
>>83484674>can't remember the last time I felt happyUnironically for me it was in elementary school (outside of the Zoloft experience). I don't mean this in a doomer way, but what was likely the happiest part of your life is probably over. People smoke, drink, and fuck to feel it like crack addicts, but "happiness" means something different as an adult, and I think that's accepting everyday banality. We are all animals and there technically *isn't* happiness as we think. Every chemical reward in our brain is temporary; happiness isn't feeling good, it's accepting the reality of the everyday. It IS a fucking struggle to find out how or what you can do everyday that is acceptable to you, I think a lot of people doubt they can even find it, but just remember that everyone is also here for the ride. I am an extremely antisocial person but it's still fun to see how other people think about things, to share things with them, and to experience random things that you would never have otherwise. I generally hate people and I think my life goal is to create media that will make a good difference on others, something that they find entertaining but ultimately leave with a greater message; to actually help other people and give them emotions like vidya that inspires me. If I died and my life was "wasted" creating bullshit stories that other people could enjoy, I think I'd accept that, and I'd like to think that's what dying happy means.
