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Just be yourself is a good advice actually. It is just incomplete and very... disheartening. Girls want you to be yourself around them. And they want that you to be attractive, fun and basically everything that you aren't. So not only do you have to change those negative parts of you it also has to be a natural part of you. If you act like a different person then you aren't yourself and they sniff it out.

TL DR: you need to both be yourself and be much much more attractive than you are.
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>>83490330
It IS terrible advice because people don't value you for who you are, but for who they think you are. Often times being yourself is cringe and uninteresting to others so you end up discarded.
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be yourself is supposed to mean don't try to be someone you're not. so if you like gaming, don't act like you don't to impress someone. it doesn't mean never brush your teeth because you hate it, to be very reductive
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>>83490419
You need to be interesting and it needs to be natural and not contrived. That is the point. If you get a hobby like skydiving to be interesting and not because it is interesting to you then it is not you being yourself so you fail.
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>>83490442
Very much this. Be yourself is important because relationships that are based on falsehoods don't last. Unfortunately, if you're expecting every relationship to fail, the only driving force to keep it relevant is lacking. Just know that if you get someone while you're not being relatively authentic, it's less likely to last.
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>>83490452
>You need to be interesting and it needs to be natural and not contrived
The thing is that most people aren't interesting so they'd have to fake being interesting. I never had that problem myself but most people around me have to put up a mask instead of just admit that they're boring empty husks without hobbies.
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>>83490496
Yes that is true. The game is unfair by nature. Most women want you to be interesting while they are just... boring themselves. You can either play by their rules or not play.
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>>83490558
>Most women want you to be interesting while they are just... boring themselves. You can either play by their rules or not play.
That's it exactly, anon. The worst part is that most women won't even have your children so they're really just worthless people too. Most people are worthless. A sad reality but still true nonetheless.
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>>83490330
It just boils down to fake it before you make it. You need to be better than your current self and you need to make that better version a natural extension of you. It's badly worded and requires you to actually put in work, which autists and incels HATE. But they always want help but hate that help basically will always amount to:
>You have to help yourself
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>>83490330
bee urself only works if u rnt an autistic faggot. but if ur here, guess what your?
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>>83490330
I think the truth is that you are either willing to change fundamentally to gain ANY decent looking woman you haven't even met yet, or you are not.
In the first case, you have already lost. In the second case, you have to be lucky enough to meet someone who is into whatever the fuck you are.
Being an appalling gamer who uses 4chan is good actually, because it filters out anyone who would hate you in the long run immediately. If you are a surface level chad whose real personality is hidden behind twenty layers of peer pressure and self improvement advice he picked up from urban legends and gossip magazines, then the relationship will eventually run into your real personality, and that might destroy it.
If you're going for a pussy% speedrun, sure, lie to yourself, lie to the world, but you will gain nothing and in the end you will lose all the nothing you had, because on the inside you will always be a weirdo.
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>>83490330
"Be yourself" is implicitely saying that anyone who doesn't like you for who you actually are is
1) not worth your time
2) not your ideal partner anyway
easy as that
You are all so preoccupied with catering to/attracting the majority of females when what you need to do is specialise yourself.
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>>83490633
>In the first case, you have already lost.
I don't think that is true. That is just pride. The best way to approach this which is absolutely impossible for most of people here is: not take it seriously. Embrace how stupid and ridiculous the game. And then yes change yourself. Or don't even change YOURSELF but be able to wear a fundamentally different persona in front of women that they feel is attractive and also make it feel natural for you. Which takes effort.
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>>83490330
But why be judged by women that can't be honest themselves when I can just goon
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>>83490684
If you are truly fine with just gooning then yes there is no reason. Are you truly fine with just gooning?
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yeah. ill goon to manifest foids and money. ok.
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>>83490330
this is bullshit. women dont care about who you are on the inside. ive gotten better responses from women when im in my incel-era guzzling pure woman hatred than i ever did when i was outgoing and sociable. but its a catch 22 because the moment i cheer up they treat me like a bitch again.
ive been through this so many times i am completely demoralized and given up, and im an unironic chadlite. the only winning move is to ignore them and find a way to cope. their friendship sucks because they turn you into a cuck. their romance is a trap because they dont really love. and they think its cute to play with you, even if you get upset, its just a social game to them
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>>83490735
I'm fine with gooning over dealing with the women available. Everyone has their ideal. Standards have been been put so low for women now that you can't even get the bare necessities for the relationship to keep existing much less the other specifics that would make your ideal girl. I don't see the point working one sidedly for the entertainment of overwhelmingly mid women.
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>>83490419
This is the unwritten reason why it is so hard for trans people to publicly transition.
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>>83490998
>the unwritten reason why it is so hard for trans people to publicly transition
Troons are deceptive by nature. Nobody wants to know you're a troon before you do it.
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>>83490868
>the moment i cheer up they treat me like a bitch again
It's not just women. People are more receptive when you're an asshole. I don't know why. I guess its just because people are inherently selfish so they'll take advantage of a nice and non-confrontational person whenever they can. It's better to not get involved with people and to never get involved with women.



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