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i skipped yesterday edition
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i dont even have much to say so this wont last long
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im selling so much old stuff just to preorder this
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>>83502433
shes so gorgeous but goddamn is she stick thin
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wondering if budgeting month by month or pay by pay would be a better option for calculating income.
also if buying a case of monster for each month would be a good option (it would, its way cheaper, im just being retarded)
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i also got a new phone this morning and got $20 off :>
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>>83502560
What model? my current phone is 6 years old thinking about upgrading soon
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>>83502584
i got a xiaomi redmi 15 (5g version), it was a budget phone with better everything except ram compared to me current phone (which had its screen shatter within 3 months of having it)
itd probably be worth buying something, i guess non-budget tho
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saddening that when i was a kid id look at homes for sale and $1m+ was considered a luxury home, and now thats the standard in this country. looking on chinese social medias, immigrants buying homes that are so small for well over $3million, its insane
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You know, I had some thoughts recently about gemstones. If amethyst is iron-bearing quartz that's been irradiated then I wonder how other gemstone contaminants might change color when irradiated.
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>>83502661
you could probably find info on that, right? someones had to have tried that. tho i say that about a lot of your ideas.
if i can create radiation in my house ill dump my gemstone collection in and tell you :]
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>>83502604
Im a poorfag so I'll be looking at budget phones as well, motorola seems to have the best bang for buck models with legacy features atm. Moto G56, G stylus 25 and G power 25. Xiaomi makes some great ones too but there's no much available in the US, the X6 would be the ceiling if my budget
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Maybe I should make a thread for my friend.
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>>83502675
There is some, yeah. But I'm wondering about non-natural gemstones too. Wikipedia has one page on it and even shows off some irradiated, pure diamonds to show how it affects their color(diamonds and radioactive materials can also be used to make a kind of battery). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemstone_irradiation

I also wonder why that page doesn't have rubies included. I'd figure rubies would be a good thing to mess with since chromium, from what I remember, has a number of oxidative states and makes so many different colors for different compounds based on those states(thus the name "chromium" referenced from 'chroma' or color).

Also you can make radiation in your house but it's not toooo advisable. You can use CRTs(what were also used for old tvs) to make X-rays and stuff. I do actually have a cool video of someone making "lightning in a bottle" by using radiation actually. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a3GfozsU0s
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>>83502694
man thats a relatively high budget. a motorola would probably be better for you considering youre in the US too.
xiaomi phones are sometimes imported from china so if theres fees, youd end up paying way too much.

>>83502696
why not, do it

>>83502720
i doubt anyones thought of doing it on man made gemstones, i imagine it wouldnt have too interesting of an affect beyond just melting them lmao.
maybe google around elsewhere and see if you can find any info outside of wikipedia. just remember what you said last time we talked...
>Also you can make radiation in your house but it's not toooo advisable
yeah i wouldnt do that lmao. i dont feel like potentially dying or anything.
>I do actually have a cool video of someone making "lightning in a bottle" by using radiation actually.
while its cool as fuck, thats probably (definitely) not a good idea either
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>>83502771
Well it shouldn't~ melt them, but I am curious if it can make some odd colors. I did google around more on the rubies and it seems like rubies just lose their irradiated color. This is a picture from an article talking about that. I can't help but wonder why it shifts color over such a short(in geological time) time.

Also the bottle is totally safe after it discharges, like they do in the video. The whole process of making that lightning pattern is actually the result of the discharging. They effectively just fire tons of electrons into the material and then give it a way to finally let all of those electrons out. It's a cool thing to watch on video, you get to see all of the little bits of lightning because of it. I do want to make my own ionizing radiation device with a CRT though, I'd want to cultivate radiotrophic fungi or even try to get properly radiosynthetic ones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus
Those fungi by the way seem to use ionizing radiation as a source of energy, although the last that I remember it was contentious as to if that was actually the case or it just makes them more metabolically active.
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>>83502833
guess youd have to try it to see if it melts or not :]
>I can't help but wonder why it shifts color over such a short(in geological time) time.
they dont have any explanations in the article? or theories? they just shot radiation at it and recorded it?
>I do want to make my own ionizing radiation device with a CRT though
its insane what you can do with CRTs... how does that even work tho? why CRTs?
>Those fungi by the way seem to use ionizing radiation as a source of energy, although the last that I remember it was contentious as to if that was actually the case or it just makes them more metabolically active
they couldnt figure it out?
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>>83502899
Well the radiation shouldn't ever be so intense that it gets hot enough to melt, more likely it could fracture and break. Neutron radiation in particularly embrittles materials. As for the article, they referenced a few other, earlier bits of work on rubies but I haven't looked into them yet. They don't have any real explanation for the instability though, it's mostly just talking about the instability of the color change and data relating to it all.

For CRTs though, it's all about braking radiation( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bremsstrahlung ). When you alter the acceleration of an electron you cause a photon to be emitted to keep the conservation of energy. This means that the more energy you throw an electron into something, only for it to be stopped or deflected, the higher the energy of the photon emitted. They'll measure the amount of energy given to many particles in eV(electron volts), which is handy. An eV is just the amount of energy imparted on an electron at its equivalent voltage, so accelerating an electron with a 1v source will leave that electron at 1 eV of momentum roughly. CRTs are just electron guns, essentially. They fire out electrons at the voltage they operate at and thus emit photons at the eV related to that. So you can make a CRT that fires 10MV electrons, thus producing up to 10 MeV photons. That's a lot, by the way, the energy that an alpha particle(radioactive decay of helium from a nucleus) has is going to be somewhere around 4MeV and you can knock neutrons and protons off of most atoms at 10 MeV of power.
>they couldnt figure it out?
They had positive results in that the fungi cultured in ionizing radiation, from what I remember, produced more acetate(and I think I remember more biomass too, but don't quote me on that). In general that means at the very least more metabolic activity, but as far as I know there isn't a mechanistic explanation for it.
1/2
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>>83502899
To satisfy everyone you'd probably have to show them a melanin-based proton pump. That'd be the melanin equivalent of what chlorophyll-based photosynthesizers use. There's just enough room that people can argue that the radiation itself is simply breaking compounds in the environment to make them more edible or even in a kind of endothermic(not the best word for it, but essentially the new compound formed steals energy from the radiation in the process of forming it and thus can be broken down to release that energy) reaction that feeds them. I haven't looked at anything disputing it though, if anything like that does exist. I'd figure the authors are just being cautious and not saying definitively it's radiosynthesis to avoid backlash if they're wrong. I really should reread the paper and others that I can find on it at some point in the near future.
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It sucks that you're a foid. I wouldn't be revolted by you on a fundamental level, instead of being ecstatic to have seen someone with near identical faggot tastes as I.
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>>83503055
ah, ok. that makes sense. maybe the answer or more discussion related to the instability is in the other articles, hopefully.
>That's a lot, by the way, the energy that an alpha particle(radioactive decay of helium from a nucleus) has is going to be somewhere around 4MeV and you can knock neutrons and protons off of most atoms at 10 MeV of power.
so, since CRTs are capable of this, were they even completely safe to own?
i actually just googled it and from the little i can see they were basically "safe" unless you broke it, but i cant imagine them being totally safe besides that. having something capable of that inside your house, idk.
>I haven't looked at anything disputing it though, if anything like that does exist. I'd figure the authors are just being cautious and not saying definitively it's radiosynthesis to avoid backlash if they're wrong
if there isnt any, someone needs to grow some balls and dispute it. even if they end up being wrong. in the end, someones gonna end up being wrong anyways, so why not?
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>>83503207
you could just pretend im one and forget i was ever a woman, the mind can overwrite stuff pretty easily :]
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>>83503255
Yeah, I figure it has something to do with chromium at this point. If I had to guess the oxidation state that it gets put into is just too much and it ends up going back to the more stable state by force. Chromium in the wrong oxidation state is actually considered a kind of heavy metal that poisons people, but in another oxidation state it's considered essential for our health.
>so, since CRTs are capable of this, were they even completely safe to own?
As you found, only safe in the usual aspects B^). Old CRT monitors though did seem to fuck with people's skin, I remember anecdotes from my mom about how people who had a CRT monitor facing one side of their face would have asymmetrical skin, the side on the CRT's end would be rougher and older looking. I figure some UV radiation must've gotten through on some models at least for that to be the case.

Honestly I would want to make my own irradiated hellscape ecosphere before anyone does all of that. I'm fine with them taking their time >B^). Although I did also want to know if ozone could be a food source for life itself. The idea being that since the production of ozone is endothermic and stores energy that it may be useful as a chemical energy source. That'd need a whole different set up though and one that'd be microbial. The idea being that since ozone's decomposition into O2(deflagration) is exothermic, as far as I know anyhow, it should be possible with just that... Should be :).
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>>83503317
>If I had to guess the oxidation state that it gets put into is just too much and it ends up going back to the more stable state by force.
they can just, do that? force themselves back to stable?
>but in another oxidation state it's considered essential for our health.
how so?
>Old CRT monitors though did seem to fuck with people's skin
im surprised that was the only thing it fucked with... wonder if it has anything to do with the lead in the tv screens for it getting through more.
>Honestly I would want to make my own irradiated hellscape ecosphere before anyone does all of that.
you could just upload your consciousness into one of the many fallout or chernobyl inspired games, or metro, for that lmao.
>Although I did also want to know if ozone could be a food source for life itself.
would that require potentially destroying the earth by farming the ozone?
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>>83503406
Well electrons can be taken or given to other atoms within the crystal.
>how so?
I believe it's the +3 oxidation state? It's considered essential but I don't know why. I imagine it has some role in some enzyme(s) and that's why.
>im surprised that was the only thing it fucked with... wonder if it has anything to do with the lead in the tv screens for it getting through more.
Boomers already got tons of lead in their air B^^^^). Leaded gas was fun stuff. Apparently leaded glass cups and such weren't so harmful, especially if you had something acidic sitting in the glass before dumping that out and having whatever you'd actually drink be poured in next. At least that's what I remember from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cAB5FG4bXI
But it has been a while since I watched it, so I might be wrong.
>you could just upload your consciousness into one of the many fallout or chernobyl inspired games, or metro, for that lmao.
But then it wouldn't be a cool, harsh hellhole that I selectively breed critters in! If I could upload my consciousness though, I'd want to be a in fantasy world where I could use magic and fight or ride dragons. Also nah, you can make ozone pretty cheaply. I forget how many joules per gram was necessary for making ozone, but ozone generators make lots with no issue. In fact the ozone hole is something that could've been fixed by just mass producing ozone and releasing it up there. You could also try and suck up the CFCs at the same time.

iirc Chinese people use ozone generators to actually deodorize rooms too. It's very bad for your health to be in there with the ozone though.
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>>83503482
>I imagine it has some role in some enzyme(s) and that's why.
sounds like something you should look into :]
>Apparently leaded glass cups and such weren't so harmful, especially if you had something acidic sitting in the glass before dumping that out and having whatever you'd actually drink be poured in next
that... doesnt sound like it wasnt very harmful if you had to do all that just to get a drink. wtf is with all the leaded glass, did they just not know how to make glass better?
i wonder if all that lead also has any correlation to boomers being the most painfully retarded generation... hmmm...
>But then it wouldn't be a cool, harsh hellhole that I selectively breed critters in!
at the sacrifice to all of us who dont have a big nuclear bunker, besides that youd have to wait years for things to be safe. unless you wanna end up as a ghoul.
ok but on the topic of fallout, i cant believe ANYONE thinks the tv show is good, it shows how genuinely retarded normie consoomers are. fallout was already ruined enough by bethesda and the shit that was fo4 and fo76, but that show... is painful to watch. plot points that lead nowhere, inconsistencies with game lore, and the brotherhood of steel being so different from the games and the goddamn tranny character... and also somehow hollywood managed to brainwash people into thinking walton goggins is some sex icon stud.
>In fact the ozone hole is something that could've been fixed by just mass producing ozone and releasing it up there.
wait, so why didnt they do this if its so cheap to make? why DONT they? wtf
>iirc Chinese people use ozone generators to actually deodorize rooms too. It's very bad for your health to be in there with the ozone though.
yeah that... doesnt sound very good. what sort of health effects does it have tho? im curious
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>>83503748
Probably but I have so much on my plate already. For leaded glass though it was valued because it was denser and it had some better quality to it -- I can't remember what it was exactly. It was used for fancy stuff though. Rewatching that video suggests that you can basically keep the lead out entirely for a very long time with a nice acid bath though :). One of the test glasses he got actually gave such little readings of lead but he confirmed it was leaded glass, so he thinks someone already did something to get the lead out of the surface layer. The lead definitely is part of the reason for boomers sucking so much though.

See, you can make a radiated hellhole without it being radioactive itself, I just basically need a 24/7 X-ray machine beaming down on my little chamber :). Also normies have to compare it to slop, so the slightly more original slop is super interesting to them. That's why GoT was so popular despite it raping the original books' themes and characters and world design.
>wait, so why didnt they do this if its so cheap to make? why DONT they? wtf
Because politicians love problems they can point to. Why fix a solution when you can instead claim your law has stopped the problem from getting worse? What you want to use how many millions/billions to fix it? A hole over the ocean and Antarctica? Pfff, we have other problems to worry about(until we need to worry about ecological ones then we'll scream about how horrible this thing was because of CFCs being manufactured and released and imply there was no solution to the problem other than banning it).

Ozone will fuck up your lungs, but the good thing about it though is that it should break down on its own back into O2. Smog actually used to be a big issue because of ozone from car exhaust, but catalytic converters(the mufflers on cars) helped to reduce those emissions and other noxious chemicals. That's another thing boomers got exposed to growing up :)
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>>83503843
>Probably but I have so much on my plate already
how much else?
>Rewatching that video suggests that you can basically keep the lead out entirely for a very long time with a nice acid bath though :)
expelling the lead from leaded glass, wouldnt that defeat the whole pupose of it? also, whatever it was cant be that much better and worth drinking from a leaded glass for.
>See, you can make a radiated hellhole without it being radioactive itself, I just basically need a 24/7 X-ray machine beaming down on my little chamber :)
thats better than what i was imagining. imagine the power bill youd get running that tho.
>Also normies have to compare it to slop, so the slightly more original slop is super interesting to them.
well if they actually looked at original media outside of the popular, heavily advertised slop that gets shovelled down their throats, MAYBE theyd find something way more interesting and original than something like fallout.
>Because politicians love problems they can point to.
i almost forgot... its funny tho cause basically no one votes based on environmental issues anyway, global warming fearmongering and the like are practically dead. may as well just fix it and go back to arguing people should vote for you on the basis of identity politics, like the US. no one has time to care about the world as a whole because everyones more worried about if 10 million men want to chop their dicks off and if they should be allowed to :]
>but catalytic converters(the mufflers on cars) helped to reduce those emissions and other noxious chemicals. That's another thing boomers got exposed to growing up :)
they were drinking lead and huffing car fumes, it was over before it even began...
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>>83504037
Lots of projects that need more research for 'em. My main thing that I need to look into right now is the first land plants. Also you're only getting the lead out of a very tiny layer near the surface, the guy in that video calculated that he took the lead out of the first 5 nanometers of glass and his prior work with vapor deposition let's him know that 20 nanometers of alumina is a great barrier.

Also a reason to make and sell and try and make leaded glass better is the fact that lead has little use elsewhere. Manufacture demand and you make extra money B^). Why do you think leaded paints were widely used in a lot of world? On one part, lead is cheap and on another, lead producers would love to get rid of the stuff.

The power bill on my radiated hellhole might not be toooo much, depending on a number of factors. At first anyhow it'd be cheap as I slowly ramped up the radiation exposure. Normies also just largely go with what other people watch. Speaking of cool stuff outside of Fallout, you'd like Underrail. It might even run on your craptop B^). It had a recent 10 year anniversary update too and it's also a post-apocalyptic RPG(inspired by the first two Fallout games no less). Here's a nice video on it from a great Youtuber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgAn68Uy2jQ

They may not vote so much on it, but it gets them free attention and publicity. Also those problems serve as the foundation for their platform. Boomers also got plenty of radiation exposure from the nuclear tests B^). We can keep finding more and more horrible shit that twisted them.
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>>83504150
how many projects are you working on now?
>My main thing that I need to look into right now is the first land plants.
thats gonna be an interesting topic, but hows it relate to your projects? are you gonna ressurect prehistoric (or whatever itd be called... prehistoric is dinosaurera , but plants existed for way longer than them, but no idea if that period has a different name or not) plants or something?
>On one part, lead is cheap and on another, lead producers would love to get rid of the stuff.
why bother producing it at all if theres barely anyone to buy and use it?
>At first anyhow it'd be cheap as I slowly ramped up the radiation exposure
are you gonna use the radiation as electricity, therefore making it cheaper?
(if not, please explain)
>Speaking of cool stuff outside of Fallout, you'd like Underrail. It might even run on your craptop B^).
youve told me about it before, i did check it out a little but i haven't attempted to download and run it (sorry indie game devs, i dont give my money to pc games)
it looks good tho. i wanna play fo1 and 2 as well, but im hoping, PRAYING for a console remaster.
>nuclear tests B^). We can keep finding more and more horrible shit that twisted them
nuclear tests?
they really had it rough in that sense, id almost feels bad for them if they weren't so insufferable
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>>83504244
I don't think I have a proper number, I just start, pause, move on or sometimes finish things. No resurrecting of prehistoric plants though, I'm just interested in and skeptical of the timeline for their evolution. Land plants go back to at least the "Age of Fish" in the Devonian, but spores that seem very much like land plants go back to the Ordovician and I believe some mass extinctions are actually postulated to have been from very early moss-like plants and lichens. PBS Eons actually has a great video on that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAkjETPM1s4

Leaded glass was actually pretty popular and the wealthy have successfully spawned demand for stuff with media campaigns plenty in the past. I actually have a great video in relation to that and a channel I imagine you'd like a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7XPhvTzgPw

Well I'd be making the radiation with electricity, so not in that case. I do have some nuclear power ideas though :). But it'd be me basically using a big CRT to just blast X-rays into a closed box. At first barely any X-rays but the power would be cranked up over time, so that the critters and microbes and stuff can evolve to deal with it all.

Also, I see, I see. Hopefully you'll enjoy it if you do end up playing, although I imagine consoles don't work out too well for this kind of RPG. The controls seem off. Also yeah, lots of nukes were just detonated in Nevada. People would even pay to watch them go off B^^^^^) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Test_Site
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>>83504314
>spores that seem very much like land plants go back to the Ordovician and I believe some mass extinctions are actually postulated to have been from very early moss-like plants and lichens.
from the video this sounds like it definitely could be the case, and im highly doubtful that land plants didnt pre-date fish by hundreds or thousands of years. what, did all that land just lay barren all that time? no way
>the wealthy have successfully spawned demand for stuff with media campaigns plenty in the past
unsurprising. if the wealthy say its ok then it must be ok, right?
ive gone on enough rants about consoomers... if i do any more ill just be repeating myself...
>I do have some nuclear power ideas though :)
like what?
>Hopefully you'll enjoy it if you do end up playing, although I imagine consoles don't work out too well for this kind of RPG. The controls seem off.
im sure i will, and im also sure they could make it work with a console just fine. id hope at least. they somehow managed to fuck up the deus ex port controls so maybe im overestimating. you have to look down to look up and look up to look down, and the control mapping didnt allow for a change, it was completely unplayable. disappointing, i love deus ex so much and i cant even play the first game due to retarded controls...
>Also yeah, lots of nukes were just detonated in Nevada. People would even pay to watch them go off B^^^^^)
oh great, that definitely would have been safe and healthy for the public to watch, totally :] what idiots, man
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>>83504483
Yeah, although my contentions are on the history of vascular plants and fossils attributed to them. Vascular plants would be most of the plants you see today, whilst non-vascular ones would be like mosses. But that all dips into stuff I can't talk about here B^).
>unsurprising. if the wealthy say its ok then it must be ok, right?
Exactly! The media knows best too. Don't worry, no need for further rants.
>like what?
It's kind of related to those CRTs and there is already work done in something related. Namely there's a kind of nuclear reactor that's theoretically possible called an "energy amplifier" or now ADSRs. The idea is that you induce nuclear reactions with high energy particles. Basically you smash atoms with a big atomic gun to get them to release energy. You then use some of that energy you harvest to further power the reactor whilst the rest goes out to the grid.

Yeah, I can't have too much faith in publishers these days. I also can't imagine they have enough of a market on consoles to want to buy these games being remastered. Not unless they try to make it into something 3D, but even then I doubt it'd capture things right or they'd fuck it up.

Boomers were doomed from the start, sadly. There's also a potential genetic trend that boomers would've been at the peak of. The idea is that in pre-contraception times, the kinds of people who are higher in time preference and also "fast life history strategists"(more sociosexual, less caring for the future, more self-obsessed, etc..) would've been the ones reproducing the most but once contraception became acceptable and wide-spread then they'd effectively neuter themselves. Ever notice how many boomers don't have kids and how the generations after boomers were all smaller than theirs? Gets you thinkin'.
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>>83504483
>>83504540
Forgot to link the wiki on the ADSRs too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerator-driven_subcritical_reactor
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>>83504540
>Basically you smash atoms with a big atomic gun to get them to release energy. You then use some of that energy you harvest to further power the reactor whilst the rest goes out to the grid.
how much would this realistically be able to power? its a pretty interesting idea otherwise
>I also can't imagine they have enough of a market on consoles to want to buy these games being remastered
there's a significantly larger market for them compared to some of the indie pornbait slop that no one buys. the i have no mouth and i must scream game came to console and people were happy about that. especially me. i love that story so much. ive watched so many videos on it and the game, i was so excited to finally play it that i bought it immediately upon seeing it. the game is way nicer than the story too, the characters have significantly more depth (i mean the story is like 20 pages long, doesnt leave much room for depth lmao) i enjoy AMs portrayal much more too. theres so much i could say about it now since i have a fresher perspective on it... i went on a rant but ive removed it lmao.
anyways, the main point is theres a market for it and many, many people would buy these games on console lmao
>but once contraception became acceptable and wide-spread then they'd effectively neuter themselves.
which was probably for the better, considering poor life planning and carelessness is, worded very poorly, not good for raising children. probably why gen x is full of the most miserable people on earth
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osaka fumo...
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>>83504829
someone on xhs is making a lain one too
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>>83504840
and a tomoko
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>>83504788
It'd depend on how efficient they got it and how cheap they can make it to produce and operate each facility. I have no great hopes on that though. After all all of the big money is in fusion research and nuclear power was already raped legislatively by the oil lobby before and even at a point in history where nuclear power has resurged a lot in terms of its public opinion, it still likely won't happen until the fossil fuel industry collapses due to being unprofitable. It still bemuses me that fusion research is so popular when nuclear fission research was already achievable and has much more room for discovery and innovation even into the 21st century.

I hadn't even heard about that, that's pretty neat. I do need to play that game at some point too, that or read the story. Also boomers loved contraception and free love and don't worry, millennials will be just as miserable if not even more miserable than gen X B^). Contraception is overall a good thing though if you want people who actually care about having families and who care about the nation's future and don't want to just be hedonists. Arguably stuff like the anti-natalist shit is good too, it convinces vain, nihilistic retards to stay childless. I imagine gen alpha are kind of fucked though. iPad-baby syndrome and popularized AI is gonna have some peculiar effects. Humanity has been tumultuously evolving these last 500 years.
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>>83504858
they played on the fears of chernobyl and itll be forever before we see nuclear power again in most places. theres a push to do it here, at the further sacrifice of healthcare and school funding :] not worth voting in favour for whatsoever, but neither is any other party really.
>nuclear fission research was already achievable and has much more room for discovery and innovation even into the 21st century.
they cant do it without fear of backlash, because apparently scientists are the biggest pussies out there.
>I do need to play that game at some point too, that or read the story.
you should do both, the story and the game arent the same whatsoever. they both offer different ends to the characters, and different perspectives. in the story you only see through the eyes of ted whos an unreliable narrator, in the game you get a chance to see all the characters. the story lacks depth. its still worth reading, and you should read it before playing the gams, but yeah, do both.
>millennials will be just as miserable if not even more miserable than gen X B^)
when reality finally hits them at age 50... at least the older ones.
>Contraception is overall a good thing though if you want people who actually care about having families
if only thats how it actually worked, cause instead we have idiots and incredibly poor people breeding like rabbits
>spoiler
while i can understand the viewpoints of antinatalism, basically all the people who believe in it are beyond insufferable. (theres definitely a better word than insufferable, but insufferable is one of my favourite words.) good on them for removing themselves from the gene pool tho
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>>83504858
>I imagine gen alpha are kind of fucked though. iPad-baby syndrome and popularized AI is gonna have some peculiar effects
the artificial ADHD has already plagued them, theyre done for. someone needs to study what all that short form content has done to peoples brains, even fully grown adults get it to the point they cant watch movies anymore without doing other shit. they have a constant need for mental stimulation. its insane
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>>83504971
Three mile island in the US too, a far less disastrous event. There is some hope for nuclear power but it almost feels like it's designed to fail, with the SMRs(small, modular reactors). The reason being that scale is what's best for power generation. Also I imagine Aussieland could do better with funding nuclear power if it cut some bullshit red tape and also got rid of a lot of the non-whites. It's a shame the abos made it to modern times.

Yeah, although that'd just be the negative push. Did you know a fair few oil and gas companies have funded and still are funding fusion research? I'd compare fusion research to trying to run before you can walk with nuclear power but in reality it's more like trying to marathon swim before you can walk. Plasma instability and neutron radiation are two of the big issues for it that I know of. Neutrons damage the containment vessel and plasma will likewise do the same when it snaps out and blasts the chamber walls. Even with low amounts of the gas, the temperatures involved are so much that it's still damaging. There's also the issue of breeding tritium for deuterium-tritium fusion(iirc the lowest temperature fusion, thus the one that's of the highest interest to my knowledge). One idea is to try and use some of those neutrons to breed that tritium to keep up the fuel cycle, as deuterium is stable and all across the planet but tritium is short lived and afaik it pretty much is all sourced from fission power plants.

Also, I see. I'll have to then, since the story is short too from what you said. You're also making me feel old B'^). I turn 30 next year.

Yeah, that is also a problem. It's one of the reasons I'd opt to have abortions be subsidized and try to cut welfare for single mothers' children. They care about themselves more than anything, after all. Also I agree on antinatalism.
>>83504978
I'd love to see any studies that come out about it, imagine the wailing.
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>>83505045
oh yeah, pretty sure i watched a video on that one before, but its easily forgettable if youre not american
>Also I imagine Aussieland could do better with funding nuclear power if it cut some bullshit red tape and also got rid of a lot of the non-whites
buuuut noooo, thatd be racist :((( and also nato wont allow us to do that, ever. the elites want to destroy white countries with their "cultural diversity". the rest of us will be forced to suffer instead
>spoiler
itll be less than 100 years before they take themselves out
>Did you know a fair few oil and gas companies have funded and still are funding fusion research? I'd compare fusion research to trying to run before you can walk with nuclear power but in reality it's more like trying to marathon swim before you can walk
i didnt (thats more of your thing, idk much outside of what youve told me lmao)
its weird theyd be the ones to fund it, but they probably want hold on another industry after theirs inevitably collapse. tho the fact theyd fund the harder option instead... just, why? why do they make things so hard for everyone lmao
>Also, I see. I'll have to then, since the story is short too from what you said
yeah, if youre a super quick reader itd probably only take 30 minutes to read. game would take about a day to finish as well.
>spoiler
what months your birthday in?
sorry for making you feel old tho (i dont try to)
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>>83505045
>It's one of the reasons I'd opt to have abortions be subsidized and try to cut welfare for single mothers' children.
i would do the same. thats actually part of my idea for a perfect society, i want to discourage people from being single parents as much as possible. id also abolish foster systems entirely.
the anti-abortion idea of "just give your kids to a terrible corrupt system :]]]]" is gross. did some research and something over 60% (iirc) kids report being sexually abused by foster families, staff, or other kids, at least in the UK. there was a case here where a 13yo mentally retarded girl in foster care was being raped so much they forced her on birth control... instead of, you know, not raping her? its just insane what these facilities do, and its not like its not reported on, but no one does anything EVER.
(this is a very poorly worded rant)
>I'd love to see any studies that come out about it, imagine the wailing
when they do, all discussion will die off in a week because theyve already forgot and moved :]
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>>83505342
Honestly, most Americans around today have either forgotten about it or don't even know about it. Chernobyl is still the one they all think back to. Well, the future is looking more and more racist. I imagine once the majority of boomers bite the dust then the West will become much less xenophilic. Also those abos will eventually stop being rama rama. Gasoline is tough stuff to quit, I guess.

Also yeah, Shell Venture(their investment side of things) invested in some fusion power research and in my own conspiratorial mind that makes me think back to the idea of big companies steering research in terrible directions or directions that directly benefit them. The medical industry having so much pharmaceutical research being one example, but driving physicists away from fission power research and into fusion power which has a lot of very intense problems to overcome is quite a good way to delay things. Getting people to buy into shitty green energy equivalents too over carbon scares is another. Its gone from some sensible ideas of adding solar panels to roofs(which is still a potential problem because of leeching materials from these panels when they aren't disposed of or made properly) to massive solar farms in places like the UK(a notoriously cloudy, northern region). Then you have all of the giant windmills just slaughtering birds and bats.

I do also wonder why there aren't proposals for solar roofs for roads. A solar farm necessarily has to steal the sunlight a plant might otherwise get, but if you're putting it over structures that you already stripped the plants off of then it makes more sense. You can have some LEDs below the panels to give some basic light so people can still see fine enough without their headlights(although on a normal day that shouldn't be necessary, especially not if there are gaps between sections of that roof).

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>>83505342
I do also agree that it'd be a good ploy for them to be on the next energy train if it does come up. I know that a lot of the hydrogen fuel research was also from these fossil fuel companies. That was way more obvious though, most of the hydrogen that would be used from said industries would be from fossil fuels. That's one cheap way to get tons of hydrogen for said fuels. In that case though, you could make an argument for it not contributing to CO2 since you can strip the hydrogen from said fuels and leave the carbon behind.

Also, my birthday is in Summer. I'll leave it vague like that B^).
>>83505345
wew, an ideology I thought of before actually wants to have a kind of foster system. Namely with the idea of increasing the number of eugenic people and also producing either clones of or children of excellent people who die without any, or not enough, kids. It is a sad state of affairs that those institutions are such cesspits. It's not just them though, elderly care and any kind of institution that has to take care of the mentally ill has similar issues. You might even ask why they'd rape the elderly? Well those sorts just seem to like power and are sadists. They'll even rape spuds(down syndrome) in their care. I think part of the issue in all of those cases is that they aren't transparent and the people taking care of them thus have too much power. If you're an elderly patient and your family never visits you, or even worse is gone, then you're just a vulnerable potential victim.
>when they do, all discussion will die off in a week because theyve already forgot and moved :]
wew, true. At least I'll do my best to memorize the points in it B^).
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>>83505382
its not like its talked about much or taught in schools, i guess.
>spoiler
i have to disagree, youre forgetting that lots of zoomers, millenials, and neo-nazis love other races more than their own. tho support for israel will drop and thatd be nice.
>Its gone from some sensible ideas of adding solar panels to roofs(which is still a potential problem because of leeching materials from these panels when they aren't disposed of or made properly)
wait, could you explain the issues of solar panels a bit more?
>Then you have all of the giant windmills just slaughtering birds and bats.
they push windmills so hard and never discuss these issues to the point i forgot this is something that happens, they have many of them here and its probably raping our poor wildlife...
>I do also wonder why there aren't proposals for solar roofs for roads.
probably way too complicated of a project to pull off on a large scale, huge money sink too (tho the government loves those). but i kinda doubt anyones thought of it either
>hydrogen fuel
is research for this still ongoing? it had been talked about for like, 2 fucking decades and yet theres not really any water powered vehicles. and its been overshadowed by the new electric vehicles
>Also, my birthday is in Summer. I'll leave it vague like that B^).
that is very vague lmao. somewhat far off, like a whole half a year or more.
we'll blink and itll be july
>spoiler
im not sure if i like this idea, i simply think they should just breed more so they dont need to be cloned or anything :]
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>>83505412
i know about the similar issues going on in elderly care/mentally disabled care facilities. its hard to solve the issue if elderly people being abused because even sticking them with families has potential for abuse. look at how the issue with japan, and how many people cover up their elderly parents deaths to claim their pension. but you cant just, you know, kill them either when they become too much.
i gotta think more on this i guess.
also picrel is from a manga by inio asano about elderly being reduced to creatures with no human rights if they fail a test at a certain age. felt a little relevant
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>>83505656
So little is talked about in our schools, from what I remember. Also a great deal of it, for history, is just "we declared independence in 1776" and "slavery and racism was bad, m'kay?". Also, I'd like to forget about how many people have those preferences. I do think that it'll still shift regardless but yeah, support for Israel is pretty much doomed with the newer generations.
>wait, could you explain the issues of solar panels a bit more?
So beyond the usual issues with them only being useful on sunny days(overcast ones just suck), they use stuff like cadmium to dope them. This means that if you don't properly recycle them, which doesn't always happen, that cadmium will leech into the environment. Solar panels also degrade over time and lose their efficiency. They lose their efficiency faster the hotter they operate and to my knowledge most solar farms do not have any means to cool them(in fact if you cool them, not only do they last longer but they also produce more power even when you factor in the energy needed to cool them).

Additionally when you have a solar farm the whole area it's in gets pretty damn hot when you're in a more equatorial part of the world or it's Summer. This means that any plants growing near said solar panels that have to contend with sunlight, also have to contend with losing more moisture to evaporation and anything that isn't a grass does horribly in this kind of set up because of the said moisture loss and also because at higher temperatures the ability for plants to use CO2 for photosynthesis becomes more difficult and as a result photosynthesis becomes less productive(and can even cost energy to perform).

There's another issue too in that our grids are AC whilst the output of solar panels is DC. In fact of all of the major forms of power generation, solar is the only one that produces DC power. This means there's losses when converting that power to AC.

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>>83505656
The upside to that DC usage is that chemical batteries need and discharge DC power, so solar panels do actually work well with chemical battery storage so the issue with overnight needing to supply power is solved somewhat.

There's an additional issue that I remember with energy grids having more risk of failure as you try to incorporate more of these renewables into it, namely because of how spotty they are and that when you have no wind or sun you need to rely on those non-renewables to pick up the pace(beyond hydro power). Also a far better storage medium for electricity is pumped hydro over chemical batteries, which will also output AC power when you discharge it. The idea is you pump water up to a higher elevation and when you need power you just run a turbine off of the water you let fall out. That sort of system also helps with water security.

Future solar panel technology may also try and use lead, with perovskite solar panel cells so enjoy the return of lead :). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perovskite_solar_cell

For windmills too, I remember hearing that offshore windmills actually fuck with whales and seem to cause them a lot of distress and may even be leading to a bunch of them dying. I don't remember the specifics of that though.

Also, I mean if you're gonna put in money for solar farms and stuff it just makes more sense to me to have said solar power be produced nearer to the consumer. You lose power the further that you have to transmit said power and all. Plus you don't need to clear down forests or build over prairies to get that power. I'd figure the issue would be roadwork or maybe that car crashes could make it more expensive -- but they could be built to be sturdy and to last.

Hydrogen fuel cells and other hydrogen stuff is still researched. Hydrogen and oxygen as a fuel source for cars is not so viable though.
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>>83505656
The problem with hydrogen is that it's a fucking nightmare to store. In a pressurized container, which you would need in order to make it energy dense enough to care about, you run into the issue of "hydrogen embrittlement" which is essentially the hydrogen deciding it wants to go on an adventure into your metal container. Then it'll, as the name implies, embrittle its container and it can lead to a total failure of it. Aluminium, to my knowledge, is one of the best options for a material for said containers and you can heat treat it to flush hydrogen out of it, but it's still not great and I don't think people want to detach a heavy fuel tank from their car and have it heated up or replaced often.

The fuel cells also kind of suck, it's basically just a chemical battery but gayer. You have those hydrogen issues but instead of burning it with an engine you're using it to produce electricity to run the vehicle. However you don't have the advantage of it not exploding which would have given it an edge over lithium-ion cells. A better chemical battery option would potentially be a redox flow battery or flow battery( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_battery ). They have two tanks with different electrolytes and a membrane between them. They can then sort of even out their charges and produce power or instead be charged up and store it. The problem with them is that they'd be really fucking heavy and so it'd only be useful for boats(which I've dreamed of quite a lot :) ).

Hydrogen's best use, would unironically be to make hydrocarbons to burn. It's such a meme as far as I see it.
The passage of time has only slowed for me as I got older B^). It won't feel like a blink of an eye for me.

Also that'd be ideal, but in the case of soldiers I think it's at least nice. If it's cloning then it's like you gave their genes a second chance and then they can be told about their predecessor's life and learn to not join the army before having kids B^)
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>>83505661
I think the best solution is just more scrutiny, monitoring and also the death penalty for raping the vulnerable :). These granny and tard fuckers are horrible people and would likely also abuse other people in their lives, if they haven't already, if they were vulnerable. They prove themselves to be monsters and so they should be put down like so. That's hardcore image, I thought it looked like it could've been by the guy who made Gantz at first glance. Gonna have to add that to my read list.
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>>83505701
israel is held up by older generations, in a decade or 3, a new US president will likely cut funding to israel completely. i hope. i want to see it collapse during my life time.
also they likely didnt. every american history ive heard of is basically what you said. cant even teach anything meaninful or cool.
>They lose their efficiency faster the hotter they operate and to my knowledge most solar farms do not have any means to cool them(in fact if you cool them, not only do they last longer but they also produce more power even when you factor in the energy needed to cool them)
so theyre not even good in the long term but especially not in hotter countries (like australia) as theyll eventually become scrap metal. theyre so expensive and for what? i wonder how many who buy them actually know about that. with the farms its probably sheer laziness, why cool them when you can replace them in 10 years?
and its probably worse for the environment and more of a PAIN in the ass than the nuclear energy theyre so scared of :] thats probably why the solar farm near me looks like a barren, dry dirt patch i guess
>I remember hearing that offshore windmills actually fuck with whales and seem to cause them a lot of distress and may even be leading to a bunch of them dying. I don't remember the specifics of that though.
as if we need more whales dying after what the russians did to them for like, so many decades.
>Plus you don't need to clear down forests or build over prairies to get that power
you dont understand, they need more excuses to rip more trees down!!! i mean its a pretty decent idea but its something theyd never ever do, they dont care for the consumers of said electricity
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>>83505803
>Then it'll, as the name implies, embrittle its container and it can lead to a total failure of it.
huh, so thats likely why the whole project never really got off the ground with cars at least. its not even worth doing or putting more money into funding it, too much of a pain in the ass and consumers wouldn't want to buy something that inconveniences them so much.
>The problem with them is that they'd be really fucking heavy and so it'd only be useful for boats(which I've dreamed of quite a lot :) ).
would it not be heavy enough to sink the boat?
>spoiler
kinda lucky, in the sense that youd probably feel like you have more time. i literally feel like i blinked and went from 16 to 20. im scared of the day i blink and wake up 30 and have done nothing in my life :]
>If it's cloning then it's like you gave their genes a second chance and then they can be told about their predecessor's life and learn to not join the army before having kids B^)
but theres no telling they wont do it anyways and make the same mistakes. theyll also feel stress knowing theyre a copy of some other person, knowing theyre not their own person, theres a lot of bad psychological effects thatd occur, and itd be a waste of time and money to clone people. i think its better to push them into having kids while theyre alive and well.
>I think the best solution is just more scrutiny, monitoring and also the death penalty for raping the vulnerable :)
ah true, youre right. id give the death penalty and worse to people who commit serious crimes anyway, most would likely be too scared to do such things with the type of punishment systems id have in place :]
>They prove themselves to be monsters and so they should be put down like so.
very true anon, very true
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>>83505816
>That's hardcore image, I thought it looked like it could've been by the guy who made Gantz at first glance. Gonna have to add that to my read list.
it is really great. inio asano is such an amazing writer and artist. i love every single thing hes ever put out. tempest (the one shot this was from) was a really interesting little story and i wish he had expanded on it more.
also, i know ive said it before, but goddamn you are a fast typer lmao
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You talk to yourself too? I often talk to myself about literature and concepts. It happens when I'm idle and my mind wanders and I don't realise it until after a few minutes
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>>83505995
Israel deserves it given its treatment of everything that allowed it to even exist in the first place. From what I've heard just about every American president has had some moment in their time in The White House where they've raged because of something Israel did no less.

Also you're right that it's worse for the environment than nuclear. Here in Florida actually one of our nuclear power plants is a haven for both the endangered population of American crocs here and our manatees. They huddle up in the cooling pond for warmth in Winter. Manatees, of the two, will die if it's only like 17~c. Crocodiles wouldn't fair too well either.

I think the Russians still hunt some whales to this day, even some Inuit/other arctic peoples. Also it's said that my solar roofways won't work out(a reference to the "solar roadways" which was a really dumb idea of having roads made out of solar panels.)
>>83505999 (Checked)
Yeah and you'd have to rebuild so much infrastructure for it too. Imagine a gas station having giant gas silos in the back.
>would it not be heavy enough to sink the boat?
Depends on the size of the batteries and what you're using for the redox. You can even potentially use something other than water to dissolve your redox stuffs with, even something less dense than water. You just need the amount of water you displace to be greater than the weight of your ship with the batteries, for the most part. Their issue is that they aren't so energy dense per kg as lithium batteries though. Those can be at up to 10x more energy dense per kg than Vanadium flow batteries(10-20 Wh versus around 200Wh per kg). The advantage is that they can be way cheaper at large scales since the raw materials don't need to be manufactured like the lithium ion batteries need to be.

Well, if you end up like me and start forgetting most of your life then maybe your perception of time will slow down. That's why I think mine has -- my reference points have been lost.
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>>83505999
Would you feel stressed out about being a clone? In that scenario, I'd just strive to do better or to avoid the same issues I had before. It's not like I'm not my own person, but I do know that a predecessor who was very similar to me and to what did them in or to what they succeeded at. It would be better to just get them to have kids though, that is true.
>spoiler
Based. There's a saying from one of America's founding fathers, iirc, that goes something along the lines of "Leniency for the cruel is cruelty to the innocent." I approve of your harsh sentencing system B^).
>>83506003
Years and years of spending my life at this computer B^). Also I have a keyboard and you're using a phone, right? Keyboards are so much easier to type on.
>>83506071
I think a lot about concepts but less so about literature -- although I'm not OP. I like to pace and listen to music too while I do so.
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>>83506071
i talk to myself in my head and in these threads occasionally, tho i end up not talking to myself most of the time lmao

>>83506080
>From what I've heard just about every American president has had some moment in their time in The White House where they've raged because of something Israel did no less.
but they still keep giving them money, huh. the third reich wasnt the americans fault, so why does the US foot the bill? its best i dont get into this rant, tbdesu.
>They huddle up in the cooling pond for warmth in Winter. Manatees, of the two, will die if it's only like 17~c. Crocodiles wouldn't fair too well either.
im surprised they as a species have lasted this long without adaptating to colder waters. tho actually youre talking in Fahrenheit arent you?
>Well, if you end up like me and start forgetting most of your life then maybe your perception of time will slow down. That's why I think mine has -- my reference points have been lost.
how bad is it? like your memory when it comes to life events. do you think its a sign of something worse to come?
>Would you feel stressed out about being a clone?
yeah i would, i feel most people would. i stress about myself and my failures enough already. having that pushed on me, on top of knowing im not the "original me", knowing i have to be better than the person the real me failed to be... i know for a fact id go insane and kill myself, no doubt about it.
youre very different and pretty mentally strong, youd definitely be one of the only people who could handle it.
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>>83506096
>that goes something along the lines of "Leniency for the cruel is cruelty to the innocent." I approve of your harsh sentencing system B^)
that is one of the truest things ever spoken, he was right. victims are tortured and even killed, yet the perpetrators get free tv, free food, free shelter, free medical care, free dental. they can have jobs and buy snacks for cheaper than what actual working citizens get. that isnt a fucking punishment. thats a reward. they shouldnt be treated with the respect of a human. ah, it gets me so fired up thinking about it
>Also I have a keyboard and you're using a phone, right? Keyboards are so much easier to type on.
maybe for you, i never got the hang of it. i type way faster on a phone + i can type without looking for the most part. on a keyboard i tap each individual key like an old person whos never touched one in her life. i actually had a keyboard class once and scored the LOWEST in the class :] i never bothered after that
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>>83506263
Honestly the first world war getting to what it was and the peace deal was Woodrow Wilson's fault and it helped to ruin everything but that's a lengthy topic for another time. Also it's a bit too late for a long rant like that B^).

I was talking about celsius, I looked up the conversion for it from Fahrenheit(somewhere around 66f is too cold for them to live from what I remembered). It helps that Florida does have a bunch of springs, although not very hot ones. One of them would be the crystal river, here's a nice video about some manners with them B^). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP3Erf3Kc2Y

The river gets its name because it's one of the few ones in this state that isn't shit-brown from all of the tannins from the oaks here. Manatees also squeak to communicate too. Here's another video of that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6tBpIs1CVs

They're adorable, fat sea cows :). As far as my memory goes, it's weird. My memory is better for information but worse on personal events and names. It happened as I entered my 20s and it's remained the same, so I don't think it's bad. I did forget about most of my childhood, I remember that process actually -- I even remember that I had really vivid memories of it all. I wasn't upset though, my childhood didn't really have memories that I cared about.

Also, I see.
>pretty mentally strong
Tard strength is real after all B^).
>>83506268
Crime used to be punished much, much more harshly here in the states. Cattle theft used to get people lynched even. From what I remember crimes got punished way less around the time of the boomers, don't quote me on that but it would be fitting of them ruining everything. Also, I see. It helps if you're always at it and using a mechanical keyboard, laptop keyboards suck though. You just start getting better at it through muscle memory, but a class won't really help it.
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>>83506268
Gonna get ready for bed now too, hope you enjoy the manatees and have a good night, fren.



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