>talk to "normal" men>either giga sluts or want a tradwife>talk to subby men>they're into the same gender roles but reversed I'm clearly not made for a relationship, I give up for realz now
>>83506221before you give up, try talking to trans men
>>83506233I've never met a straight or at least bi trans dude, and I've been around a lot of them
>>83506236well keep trying my stepbrother is a straight trans man so i know they exist. and he's a pretty cool dude, any woman would be lucky to have him.
>>83506236I'm genuinely curious if any straight trans men actually exist. I feel like a straggot every time I hit on them though lmao
>>83506221What do you want out of a relationship? Being equals?
>>83506221Have you considered sub 8 men?
>>83506221What do you expect your man to be/expect?
>>83506221>tradwife bad because my feminist literature written by pedos said so
>>83506244I'll keep that in mind in the rare case I encounter one>>83506252If your picrel is trans he definitely passes so I'd say you're just a good ol fag>>83506289>>83506300Yeah I expect us to be equals. It's not that I'd expect us to put in the exact same amount of effort, because that's not something you can really quantify, but just try as much as we can to make it work >>83506294I usually take interest in men that looksmatch me, and I'm not an 8/10
>>83506252I'm a bisexual trans man/femrepper with a preference for women, dated mostly women in my life including the 2 girlfriends atm. We make up the larger proportion of the poon population than gaydens or st4ts. wouldn't mind dating a man either but vaginal atrophy and other post transition complications make bed activities a headache with impatient cis men.
>>83506319I'm naturally not subservient and the idea of entirely depending on someone that might fuck me over stresses me out. A lot of "trad marriages" are financial/legal hostage situations and deep down they fucking hate each other but can't do anything about it
>>83506358The /lgbt/ lingo is fascinating, I had to look up half of those words
>>83506221You've clearly never talked to me, I want a knight and princess relationship, you can call it femdom but I don't think it's reversed gender roles
>>83506369>and deep down they fucking hate each other but can't do anything about itI didn't knew that you can read minds. I can say the same. Trannies hate themselves, women hate each other, lesbians hate each other, etc.
>>83506340>I usually take interest in men that looksmatch me, and I'm not an 8/10That's fair, assuming you aren't delusional.People don't generally cultivate good personalities until they've been broken by life and managed to climb out of the depths.For men this usually means a lifetime of loneliness.If you're willing to put in some work, you might have success by looking for someone a couple of points below your preference and salvaging them.Genuine affection is a very strong motivator for guys to step up.
>>83506377tttt vernacular evolves at a rapid pace because of the influx of posers and trenders, before 2018 we didn't use so many zoomer words. It's crazy if I'm out of the loop for 6 months entire threads dialects will change there and I feel like an old person.
>>83506381Shoutout to umineko an higurashi for having been in my to read list for 5 yearsI'll bite, where are you from?>>83506393Didn't knew you didn't knew any marriages personally
>>83506340>you're just a good ol fagBrutal but probably true. I feel like the inverse of the "straight femboy chaser". Dudes with vaginas seems very appealing lmao, I'm surprised there aren't as many out there
>>83506420>Genuine affection is a very strong motivator for guys to step up.This is why so many robots get one-shot by BPD.Imagine how nice life would be if sane women had the same attitude.
>>83506381>I want a knight and princess relationshipunfathomably based sir. for me it's larping as a bishie prince to sweep beautiful doompilled women off their feet into my castle. I have more social dysphoria than body so being perceived that way helps a lot.
>>83506420I feel like you're assuming I meant I'm above an 8/10 The idea of motivating a guy to step up sounds cute in theory but in practice I think he'd just leave me once he considers he can do better
>>83506494>I feel like you're assuming I meant I'm above an 8/10Nah, I knew what you meant. But you could be like a 5 and think you're a 7 or something.>I think he'd just leave me once he considers he can do betterThis is an excuse. Why would a guy who was brought up to your level be more likely to leave you than a guy who was at your level from the start?
>>83506221I feel you, as an Anime Pro, all I want is a 10/10 Anime Pro cosplayer gf, but nowadays they're all "independent" VTubers and stuff. 8/10 Stacylites that haven't even seen 100 animes are just not the same.
>>83506612I'd say I'm a solid 5I don't date men based on their level to begin with, I don't know what the fuck that means, life isn't a videogameWhat I mean is if a guy feels the need to self-improve only when he's dating I'd be worried he would realize he can do better once he gets his shit together
>>83506424I live in Poland ;_;desu I haven't read umineko either, I just collected a bunch of those amazing images because this couple is just perfect.
>>83506725>I don't date men based on their level to begin with, I don't know what the fuck that means, life isn't a videogameYou know what it means. Some people are more attractive than others. There's a rough distribution.Pretending to be oblivious to it doesn't make you a better person.
>>83506221It's difficult to reread Fujiyama because I can't imagine what she even sees in Kanba in the opening chapters. It's just audience wish fulfillment for the first bit. They're cute together later on, but later on is later on, you know?
>>83506221WTF do you want then you crazy bitch?
>>83506737So, this "level" is only based on their physical appearance? Not including their personality, charisma, smarts, compatible hobbies, agreeability? No offense but this is a completely retarded classification system
>>83506340>Yeah I expect us to be equals.>but just try as much as we can to make it workI'm surprised how few couples are like that even with the marriage vows talking about going through tough times together and what not. Personally I think it's extra romantic when we still love each other just as much despite the chips being down.>I usually take interest in men that looksmatch meWhat would your looksmatch be like?
>>83506221I'm sexually submissive but not into the LARPy femdom that inclues stuff outside the bedroom, virgin, not interested in anything "trad" and want us to be equal. Interested?
>>83506875>So, this "level" is only based on their physical appearance?I mean... that's the level I'm talking about yeah. You can think of those other things in terms of levels too if you want but I don't see your point.>No offense but this is a completely retarded classification systemCan you explain why? Do all people look the same to you?
>>83506915Well yeah, if you're being truthful I'm interested ngl>>83506994So according to you, an extremely annoying and uncharismatic Chad would be preferable over a less attractive guy that was charismatic and funny. Not even the normalfaggiest of women operate like that. People's physiques don't exist in a vacuum
>>83507078Not him but are you in the UK? I want an equal relationship as well and have been looking for a long time
>>83507098Nope, I'm from continental Europe
>>83506221>want a tradwifeDefine this. I want a housewife but I don't care about sundresses or makeup if that's what you mean.
>>83507107>I'm from continental EuropeSo close yet so far. I'm guessing you would want someone in your country?
>>83507078>So according to you, an extremely annoying and uncharismatic Chad would be preferable over a less attractive guy that was charismatic and funnyNo one is saying that physical attractive is the only thing that matters, I have no idea how you got that from my posts.Quote what I said that gave you this impression, so I can see if I worded it poorly or if you're just acting dumb.
>>83507078>Well yeah, if you're being truthful I'm interested nglI am. Do you like autistic nerdy introverts? What do you seek in guys/relationships?
What sort of relationship do you want? The casual one where you meet once or twice a week and generally live separate lifes, or a clingy romantic one where you try to spend as much time toghether, learn all their is about each other, twin flames stuff.
>>83507120>I don't date men based on their level to begin with, I don't know what the fuck that means, life isn't a videogame>You know what it means. Some people are more attractive than others. Pretending to be oblivious to it doesn't make you a better person.You were also somehow implying the only thing a person can improve upon, or the only thing that would be relevant for them to improve upon, is their physical appearance? Hence why I was confused to find out that by "bring him up to your level" you were only referring to his physical appearance. I'm not being obtuse by assuming you're only concerned about that>>83507110By tradwife I meant girly girl that follows traditional gender roles and tries to be submissive >>83507115Nah I've never even met someone from my country on this board
>>83507137>Autistic nerdy introvertsHell yeah>What do you seek in guys/relationships?Solace, it's a bit abstract but it's the best way I can define it. I don't want dramas or to overcomplicate things, just a good ol monogamous relationship where we love and try to support each other. More specifically, play vidya, watch movies, get drunk together, stuff like that>>83507148It's a bit embarrassing to admit but I date to marry. I don't believe in situationships or casual relationships or bullshit like that. It sounds like the worst of having a friend and the worst of having a partner
>>83507155>girly girl that follows traditional gender roles and tries to be submissiveAesthetically, sexually, or in totality? I like to have the final word in terms of big decisions for the household (major financial decisions and such) and would like a stay at home wife. Other than that I'm pretty flexible, don't really care what a girl wears or says or whatever as long as she's loyal.
>>83507179>It's a bit embarrassing to admit but I date to marry.How's that embarrassing? It's wholesome to want to want to find a soul mate and treat the relationship as final, not just some temporary fling or a stepping stone. However, it will be hard if you don't even tell us the country you live in... e-relationships sound like hell, I think the physical aspect is very important. Not sex but touch, holding hands, being there.
>>83507179>I don't want dramas or to overcomplicate thingsMe neither. Realistically I understand that some drama and complication is inevitable, but I'm a quiet guy who doesn't like unnecessary conflict and I'd appreciate someone who's more interested in finding solutions than in escalating problems.>play vidya, watch moviesOh hell yeah. BG3 and D:OS maybe? Some horror films or weird artsy ones?>get drunkThis I won't do though. Al-Gul is evil!
>>83507155>You were also somehow implying the only thing a person can improve upon, or the only thing that would be relevant for them to improve upon, is their physical appearance?Okay so it's you that's acting dumb. In no way did I imply this.You extrapolated this simply from the fact that I was talking about physical attractiveness at all.
>>83507203>Al-GulA disciple of Measurehead? On this Isla?
>>83507234Correct, I can detect haplogroups by their scent.
>>83507195Totality, I don't want my partner to expect me to act and dress a certain way >>83507202I think continental Europe is a good enough approximation. I'm not very close to Poland though >>83507203I haven't tried BG3 yet, I'd like to check it out at some point >This I won't do though. Al-Gul is evil!No idea what you're referring to
>>83507268>I think continental Europe is a good enough approximation. I'm not very close to Poland thoughIt's quite a big continent, you could be 3000km away from me. I wish there were more Europeans and Poles on r9k.
>>83507212You said "help a guy step up" (which I assumed was referring to more things other than appearance), then you said "help a guy reach your level" and you clarified clarified that by level you were exclusively referring to physique. Since you're the one that's being obtuse this will be my last (you)
>>83507268>I haven't tried BG3 yet, I'd like to check it out at some pointI really want a gf who plays co-op games with me like that. Do you like turn-based stuff?>No idea what you're referring toHmmm your pic says otherwise...
>>83507268UK anon here. What kind of vidya do you usually play? I quite want to get back into coop dungeon adventure games.
>>83507243>I can detect haplogroups by their scentOne day I will reach this level of fascism. I need to hate women more.>>83507268>don't want my partner to expect me to act and dress a certain wayExpectations are a part of life, Nona. You're gonna have expectations of him, he'll have some of you, even if it's not all conscious. If you don't want to feel straightjacketed by traditional feminine aesthetics then that's fine; I for one hate wearing dress clothes. I feel awkward in suits or even business casual and so I avoid situations wherein that's expected of me where possible. But to say no one can expect me to groom or act with decorum is a bit nonsensical. Do you eschew all feminine roles or would you simply prefer to be as you are without fear of judgement? Do you think it's a cultural thing from your home country or do you think it's a more base biological thing.
>>83507273I'm to the west, if that helps >>83507293>Turn-basedNot much... I was once into competitive Pokemon, but I'm the sort of sore loser that can't get into something if I'm not immediately good at it, so it's a bit hit or miss lol. Do you like farm sims?>Hmmm your pic says otherwise...Who knows;P I haven't had the time to finish it but I was just playing it actually >>83507296Usually single players with a compelling narrative and/or artstyle, but I'm open to any co-op stuff as long as it's not too hard. Care to give some examples?>>83507307>But to say no one can expect me to groom or act with decorum is a bit nonsensical.I did not say that. I said that I don't want my partner to expect me to be feminine all the time or dress conventionally. I already get that most of the time, but at least I can choose the people I keep close to me. Why would I want more of that in my personal life?
>>83507350>I'm the sort of sore loser that can't get into something if I'm not immediately good at it, so it's a bit hit or missAh, well co-op is good in that there's no comp pressure at least. What kind of bf-time vidya do you have in mind?>Do you like farm sims?I've actually never played any, closest have been city managers that have farming aspects like Caesar or Pharaoh.>I haven't had the time to finish itI also haven't finished it, but Measurehead was an instant classic, heh.
>>83507350>did not say thatMea culpa, I suppose I'm just used to dealing with rather irrational people on here.Being free of certain expectations in your home can indeed be a safer experience. It wouldn't be unreasonable to ask for someone who doesn't care if you get dolled up while you're at home.Personally, I'd kill for a girl that was happy to sit around in her pajamas and watch movies or play vidya rather than go out to a fancy restaurant or some shit.
>>83507350>Usually single players with a compelling narrative and/or artstyleHave you ever played KOTOR 1 or 2? :) I'm usually an action game player but those two games were genuinely very good. I've just been playing arma lately.>Care to give some examples?I'm still looking to be honest lol. Right now I've got deep rock galactic, but when I was a kid, I played a game called gauntlet. Enter the gungeon or nuclear throne look nice too.
>>83507388>What kind of bf-time vidya do you have in mind?Co-op is nice of course but we could also just okay single-players games together. Oh and chess, at least once lol>city managers that have farming aspects like Caesar or Pharaoh.I'm truly dealing with a nerd here >Measurehead was an instant classic, heh.Revoking your reference license until you finish itI have to let the thread die, but I made a discord in case you wanted to keep talking. It's burner08300
>>83507289>You said "help a guy step up" (which I assumed was referring to more things other than appearance), then you said "help a guy reach your level" and you clarified clarified that by level you were exclusively referring to physique.I was indeed talking about physical attractiveness specifically here. The whole point was to gauge how much it mattered to you.It's fine if you no longer reply to me, but ask yourself how it logically follows from me asking you about physical attractiveness that I must think it's the only thing that matters.You came to a board known for it's demographic of disenfranchised men, to complain about men being sluts or only wanting a trad wife.You then clarify that what you actually meant was that you simply don't want to be forced to be feminine and subservient all of the time, which is not something any guy here even thinks about.You go on to describe pretty much the perfect relationship, that almost every guy on this website would kill for, but woe is you, you will surely never find this, you're giving up!But when you are questioned about your physical preferences, you throw up this act of indignation at the mere suggestion that looks could be an obstacle for you.If this is not ragebait, you must truly be totally oblivious.In case you're genuine, my advice would be to watch out for the yes-men who tiptoe around everything you say and put on this show of "damn, all these guys on 4chan sure have bad personalities and superficial expectations huh, unlike me". That is, if you're even able to recognize it.
>>83507563>Revoking your reference license until you finish itD: fine I'll do it...>It's burner08300Added, thanks.
>>83506358you will never pass as a man lil dood, be a good girl and get pregnant with my baby
>>835063582 at the moment? lmfao what a playa
>>83507148giwtwmwpei
>>83506221Have you tried a switch?
