If marriage had anything to do with love, then why did women opt out of it as soon as they had other options?
>>83506560The way marriage is shown to women, its no wonder girls don't want it.Marriage = you and your husband both work full time but the woman does most of the house tasks and pushes out children that ruin the womans body and then your husband don't help you at all
>>83506573>but the woman does most of the house tasksI see. So single women don't have household chores. Makes sense.
>>83506560I think people are just retarded and choose the wrong spouse. Outside factors and incompatible natures are also just a part of them failing too. Honestly if you aren't blackpilled but still try your best and bee urself then I don't see how you can connect intimately with anyone. Sure some people just get lucky and coast through life or they genuinely work hard and it works out. I'm still stuck on the blackpilled part and not even just women more just life itself. Don't try my best and can't be myself because I have to wear a mask around everyone so it's not like I can expect a wife or children.
>>83506560Fun fact: no man has ever been loved in the entire history of the human race.
>>83506560You are supposed to marry who you love, but most poor people shouldn't (and probably are incapable) of being in love. This entire concept is just like the concept of formal education or leadership. Only a small handful of men are ever going to be good enough to understand marriage or governance, it's insane to try to apply our lifestyle to everyone else.
>>83506560State literally pays women do divorce men (with men's money)If you expect people to be rational economic agents (basis of market economy) than marriage situation is simply explained by legal and economical factors.
>>83506628I see. So the only thing holding together the "family unit" was a legal framework.
>>83506591Tall, handsome men are loved.Vvomen are loved.
>>83506646>Tall, handsome men are loved.I don't think so. They're a novelty and they too get abused and abandoned.
>>83506639How so? Most marriages are still held together, mostly by family values. If you mean the people who aren't married yet, we have a culture that makes life easy enough to where people don't have to grow up or mature, so they get married much later or start maturing too late. If life becomes hard again then people will get married fast again.
>>83506663>Most marriages are still held together, mostly by family valuesI assume you have some sort of data to reinforce this claim? Because the data I'm reading says that even out of the few marriages that remain, roughly half of them end in divorce, almost exclusively initiated by women.
>>83506682>roughly half of them end in divorceThere's no data that says this. There used to be a statistic that divided the divorces by the number of marriages which gave around 50% divorce rate, but the data on "marriages end in divorce" is around 15%-20%. For white, America, high school educated+ couples, marriage ends in divorce around 12% of the time. Besides the data, almost everyone in my friend circle and my kids school is married and has been for a while. My parents are still together, my wifes parents are together, it's still odd to be divorced unless you're ghetto trash. It's still funny to think about single moms.
>>83506639Everything in society is held by legal framework. You staying alive and some bandit not taking everything you have is only possible because of some legal framework piece of paper.
>>83506706https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/10/16/8-facts-about-divorce-in-the-united-states/Right, I stand corrected, recent data shows one third not accounting for people who could yet be divorced.>For white, America,White people are becoming a minority so it's not reasonable to disregard statistics that represent other demographics.
>>83506573>and pushes out children that ruin the womans body and then your husband don't help you at allExcept all I hear from my married coworker men is that they have to do all sorts of crap for their wives. They work 8h a day and then inevitably they have to go shopping, or drive the wife/kids somewhere, or move furniture, or help the in-laws with something, it never seems to end.The only way out is not not have kids, but you foids always want them. I've talked to sex-havers and all of you inevitably want to give yourselves chores and destroy your bodies and become poor by having kids.
>>83506711I never argued otherwise, it's just that people seem to think that it was something magical, rather than law(which is enforced through violence). The only reason women cohabited with men is because they had to, but men actually wanted to cohabit with women, which is why the laws were made in the first place.
>>83506733>it's not reasonableHow so? This data could only be meaningful if it represents you in some way. Asians have a much lower divorce rate but that wouldn't mean anything to me or the "legal framework" argument. You have to break it down as far as you can if you're using meme data. Only reading headline figures is what got all these retards believing in 50% divorce rates in the first place.
>>83506741>it's just that people seem to think that it was something magical, rather than law(which is enforced through violence).Everything in society is enforced by law. There are examples of practical things, superstitions and even magic (religions) enforced by law. Whatever people agree through political process they frame with a law.This is just how things work.
>>83506741Men never wanted to cohabit or have sex with women, they only started doing that because of modern laws.
>>83506765>This data could only be meaningful if it represents you in some way.Why? What's the point of not considering data that involves the majority of the population?
>>83506789>Why?How so? The majority of the global population does not live under the same laws, so how would you pinpoint any legal framework argument? Why is the OP image specifically talking about American marriages, and disregarding Indian marriages in India?
>>83506802I AM talking about marriages in the US and you disregarded stats that include non-white US citizens>>83506706right here, which amount to half the population. I don't think that's reasonable.
>>83506827>I AM talking about marriages in the USits not reasonable (according to you) to only talk about the US and not China. Why do you ignore China or India? Explain.
>>83506832Okay, let's talk about China. How is it any better there? They have similar or even higher divorce rates and the government even had to step in recently because divorce rape became a way of life for women.
>>83506573That shit isn't even true anymore men split chores pretty evenly, most actually do more work at home than women do. Women don't even know how to cook anymore, they don't even have basic fucking domestic skills anymore, how is it possible they are doing literally any housework?
>>83506849>3.2 per 1000 people>"way of life"I think you are simply stupid. Do you care to explain yourself?
>>83506860Your dad is a cuckold. That's literally it. Every girl I hang out with knows how to cook, that's like the most basic shit.
>>83506868For a predatory, premeditated practice that's actually very significant and obviously doesn't account for divorce gains that just "happen" . When it comes to rape, women branded men as rapists for 16 out of 100,000.
>>83506884My mom was a stay at home mom who did literally every household chore and was a great cook, I'm talking about young women today you fucking retarded nigger.
>>83506886So you're the same kind of idiot who claims that rape is a way of life for the majority of men? That would explain a lot.
>>83506894>women don't even know how to - ACK!>erm...I was just pretending to have a cuckold dad, I wasn't talking about THOSE womenNah, you are a fucking retard.
>>83506560They've been brainwashed by the media. Women are easily propagandized. Simple as.
>>83507126so why can't you brainwash them to do the opposite?
>>83506586nta but you only do the chores for yourself and not 3 other people. you're also on your own so you feel less miserable than when you're cleaning up while there's someone laying on the couch without helping at all
>>83507253cooking, cleaning and washing for two people is basically the same amount of effort as doing it for one
>>83507300most marriages involve having children at some point which makes the workload much worse. also you completely ignored my second point
>>83507300No, it is not. Have you ever lived alone to compare vs with a partner? Doubt it.
>>83507253I had no idea the marriage contract also covered such banal things
