If you want your political faction to win, you should first collectively lose on purpose, allowing the opposing party to gain full control over society and experience the furthest possible ramifications of their policies. If their policies are terrible, society will suffer massively, many tenets of society will collapse and we will all collectively emerge from that calamity with firsthand experience on why those policies do not work. They will never be seriously considered again. If their policies are good, things will go well and you will have been wrong. That is why I voted for Donald Trump despite being what many would consider a far left extremist.
dude yeah I love it when people suffer needlessly for no reason other than to prove a pointaccelerationists get the rope
>>83509499>for no reasonHow do you convince people the communist party is evil? You let the communist party win. If you don't, the communists will retain their supporters for longer and after enough progress they will win anyway. It'll just take longer and more people will die in the process. I did you a favor. I ripped the bandage off. You're welcome.
>>83509529current america is just as authoritarian as communist russia ever was, if not moreso. So that boogey scare word doesn't hold as much weight as it once did.A classless society seems kinda appealing when all I've ever known is getting assfucked by rent seeking nobles
>>83509464Nobody can deny that he just came back because the opposition did way worse than he did in 2016, if not he wouldnt have been reelected.
>>83509580I hate biden more than I hate trumphe knew he would lose and he refused to step down
>>83509499Some people just won't change their mind until they've suffered. I know this from experience after a period of political upheaval. They're either too stupid or greedy, perhaps both.
>>83509499>dude yeah I love it when people suffer needlessly for no reason other than to prove a pointyou just described one of the oldest and most central tenants of politics - it's all about hurting THEM. whoever THEY are. tribalism begets nationalism begets xenophobia begets a convenient excuse for increasing authoritarianism - you don't want THEM to take over, do you? you want to be safe from THEM, the exact nature and identity of who THEY are literally does not matter if you can get people to abandon the rational part of their brain that goes "wait a minute, who the hell are you actually talking about and why are you so adamant about condemning them", because the answer to that is not "because i don't like them" or "because my religion forbids their lifestyle" or "they seek to destroy the country", the answer is always "because attacking them allows me to hold onto and consolidate my power and clout among the powerful intelligentsia"if you do not understand this or refuse to accept it then just be quiet when politics are discussed and go back to your bread and circuses
>>83509561I was using communism as a rhetorical example. Nevertheless, I'll be voting for Trump's third term if it comes to that.
>>83509618I understand it ,I'm just sick of it. Our entire society is dictated by this stupid fucking kindergarten game. It's so exhausting.
>>83509639>le third termyou don't care about the constitution and you are anti-american.
>>83509656I care about the constitution enough to help demonstrate why its stipulations are as necessary as they are. Of course I think Trump having a third term is a terrible idea, but that's exactly why I'm in favor of it. We won't learn until we experience. Everything will be fine afterwards everything is not so fine for a while.
>>83509688what you dipshit accelerationists don't understand is that the populace is retarded and will adapt to whatever shitty circumstances you throw at them. Things getting shittier won't make things get better, it will just make people more accepting of shitty conditions.
>>83509724>Things getting shittier won't make things get betterUntrue. Look at Germany post-Holocaust. Potentially the wokest country in the world. They did unfortunately have to have unspeakable tragedy befall them to get to that point, but had they fought like hell against fascism they'd probably still be a fascist hellhole.People won't stop supporting certain ideas until it's withered their crops and killed everyone they've ever loved. The only way out is through.
>>83509788because they underwent an actual reconstruction forced by the winning countries. which is something we should have done after the civil war. But because we didn't we're forced to have dipshit hicks ruin our lives ever other election cycle
>>83509464This already has a name and is called (left) accelerationism.
>>83509805Imagine how regretful those dipshit hicks will be once they get everything they wanted and begin to fully understand how disastrous it actually is in reality. The problem solves itself, but you need to let it be a problem first. It has to get much worse before it gets better.
>>83509840you should try reading a thread before replying one of these days, might be pretty cool
>>83509851This won't work because the affected parties will just blame the trannies and the browns. Their godking has infinite power and they're still blaming Biden for the economy. They have literally zero introspection.
>>83509875That kind of delusion can only last for so long though. Eventually, once all the trannies and browns are gone and their lives are still shit, they'll have to acknowledge what the real problem is.
>>83509891If/when that time comes, their thought-leaders will just invent another boogeyman to distract them with. They are incapable of understanding the bigger picture. Crapitalism and individualism requires a cult mindset
>>83509639>I'll be voting for Trump's third term if it comes to thatholy shit accelerationists are so dumb. get a spine for once and put some effort in making things actually better for everyone
>>83509931>If/when that time comes, their thought-leaders will just invent another boogeyman to distract them with. This, too, can only be sustained for so long until their base loses their faith in them and begin to turn. It's inevitable. Something has to give eventually.
>>83509961That's literally what I'm doing. You have to take your medicine before you get the treat that comes after.
>>83509978>You have to take your medicine before you get the treat that comes afterShoot yourself in the head to go to 'heaven' faster
>>83509994Killing yourself is against the Ten Commandments dumbass.
>>83509966The more we're conditioned to not expect truth and not expect justice, the more bullshit we'll put up with.I highly recommend watching this guy's videos https://www.youtube.com/@SilentEast1Propaganda isn't when you're convinced the state is correct, it's when you're too tired to fight back.And a fascist regime doesn't care about anything other than perpetuating its own existence.
>>83510021It seems obvious that we're always going to fundamentally disagree but with all due respect, I don't think you have enough faith in people. It's not a frog boiling situation. There will always, ALWAYS be a point where we jump out. We just have to get to that point before we do.
>>83509464>They will never be seriously considered againyeah, i mean, for like 50-100 years until everyone who experienced this is gone
>>83510089sorry if I don't expect frogs to know when they're being boiled.
>>83510110I literally just said it's NOT a frog boiling situation. We're not frogs. People are prone to revolt, we've seen it countless times throughout history and can leverage that to our advantage. We just need to give them a reason to.
>>83510124>We're not frogs
>>83510155We're not. I genuinely believe that. No matter how dumb you think these people are, they're not THAT dumb. We all have our breaking points.
>>83510314the fact you can't see I've already given up on this conversation makes me think even less of humanity
>>83510364No, I saw that you quickly gave in but I kept going because I still care regardless of how you feel. That's the difference between you and me. You clearly don't really give much of a shit about anything at all.
>>83510565>It seems obvious that we're always going to fundamentally disagreeyou should have given up at this point like I did
>>83510622Again, I'm not like you.
