>>83527463
>how do you feel about your dating prospects?
They don't exist
>What is your experience dating after the age of 30?
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>>83527463
>30+ Anons, how do you feel about your dating prospects?
Bleak. I've been single for about a year and I've had one date in that time. It went nowhere and that fucked with me cause it seemed to be going well. In my 20s I was great at being alone, now I'm starting to get really scared I'm going to be alone forever.

>What is your experience dating after the age of 30?
I was in a relationship since about 2019 til last December, so I have no frame of reference other than the hellscape I remember it being before. I knew it was going to be worse now, and I was right. I have absolutely no fucking idea what to do.

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I'm thinking about swallowing all my shame and embarrassment and enrolling in community college. For what? For Japanese.

Because I recently remembered it's among the only things that ever interested me to learn. And maybe I should have just done this years ago rather than do nothing at all. Because I have no discipline to do it myself.

But I'm such a retarded autist, I'm not sure how well it'll go. It may be worse by everyone there being 20 years old and demographically different than I.

>>83527463
I met my first girlfriend at 33, but we weren't actually compatible and broke up after a few months. Approaching 36 now and haven't tried dating since. I used to be most insecure about my looks, but nowadays I worry more about just having nothing in common with the average woman my age.

I get basically no matches on bumble

I switched to hinge and Im getting a few more matches but theyre not very high quality

I am 37 and just about have given up

>>83527463
it was pretty terrible until i went to thailand for vacation and it opened my eyes to how shitty dating is in the US for guys. i know ppl look down on passport bros but i don't give a fuck i'm moving out asap

>>83527463
33 and married. Was a virgin till 27.

>31
>5'5
>0 prospects
>0 chance of being treated with respect in public
>seen as dirt by men and women
>have to act like a submissive faggot or im seen as napolean complex
>shorter than the average teen girl
>shorter than the average 10 year old boy

I'm trying to imagine how someone can be even just 5'8 and not get any women. Shit at least I lost my virginity.

I'm a 35 khhv, I have never been on a date and never will obviously. It would be nice if I was different, oh well I guess

its pretty much nightmare fuel , im antisocial and honestly prefer being alone, i just want a young girl to fuck every couple days

>>83527463
>how do you feel about your dating prospects?
I haven't dated/used tinder in 5.5 years now. I had good success (now married).
I'm fit, have a stable job and have an ok social circle, unsure how dating would go.

>>83528849
and what did you do to manifest this change in your life?

I had a gf from 18-25. Now 31 and haven't had a gf since or been with a woman. It's over and I'm going insane with isolation. I have no friends either.

>>83529322
Hi :) . Drop your discord username and we could play some games together, godspeed anon<3

I have a BPD girl who is too young for me who I broke up with 6 weeks ago and would jump on any chance I give her to be my gf again.

I have a very pretty egf who lives on another continent and is sick. I would marry her in a heartbeat but I think the chances of us meeting irl once, let alone getting to serious marriage talks, are slim.

I got a hug from a girl IRL today and her dad would be happy to have me as a son in law, but I've known her since she was 9 and I was 14, and she "loves me like a brother" which is a pit from which there is no escape. I would delete every app I use to contact e-girls immediately if she acknowledged my feelings and took me seriously for a relationship. It's not happening though.

>>83529236
nta. But basically same thing. (26 virgin/never dated, now married 10 years later, had a few partners).
>Seize opportunities wherever they appear as universe is 90% luck 10% identifying and then working your ass off to make something with that luck
>Look at how chads at work behave, most are relaxed, mildly carefree but able to respond to stress. Friendly to everyone, people want to be around them. Adapt similar traits
>Enjoy my interests but learn how to discuss that so I don't reveal my power level. Don't be publicly a cynical bitch even if internally I am
>Get somewhat /fit/, always look okay or good and keep this attitude.
>Work hard at my job, use confidence that I gain from being very good at what I do to bridge the gap of my social confidence/lack of relationship success
Prior to being 26 I really only had 1 shot of losing my virginity and I completely blew it, didn't have a chance to even try for like 6 years. I kept seeing story's about people not learning from mistakes, by avoiding any pain and realized that was the worst thing for me to do

>>83529358
manx20923

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>>83527463
I'm 34 and I haven't touched a woman since I was 20.

>>83528831
The only problem with this is that Thai women are ugly. Is there a European equivalent to Thailand?

>>83528831
>i know ppl look down on passport bros
who looks down on passport bros? most men I've talked to seem to be neutral to it or even considering it themselves. It's only women who "look down" on it because they know these thirdie women are their competition

>>83528854
how are you 31 and still insecure about your height of all things? You realize you can just ignore people's reactions and coping and seething and just be yourself to some extent right? You must live in pain if you really think in these terms

In my head i'm trying to imagine how it is possible to be a 30+ year old man with no women and It's just not making sense. Do none of you work? Do none of you go out to the bar? Do none of you talk to people? Do you all just stay silent not say anything to anybody?

Who are the 30 year old women fucking/dating? Do they just not exist in the real world? Are their standards too high and only date the top 20% of men? Women don't have this problem at all. You could be the ugliest woman in the world and you could walk up to any man on the street and get laid in exactly 2 minutes 0 effort.

Is this a result of men putting women on a pedestal? Men gassing up every woman so they think they deserve better than their male counterparts?

I'm 35 and a man myself and I think all of these problems are because of other men.

>>83529358
this is a psychotic BPD whore, do not communicate with it

I'm 34 and have never been on a date or felt romance. There is no hope for the future in this regard.

>>83529365
>and she "loves me like a brother" which is a pit from which there is no escape
I hear that. I was in that exact situation in mid/late 20's. The only escape is to cut all contact, burn the bridge, purge your mind of her existence.

>>83529602
>Do none of you work? Do none of you go out to the bar? Do none of you talk to people? Do you all just stay silent not say anything to anybody?
I retired off of Dogecoin and I answer yes to all of these questions. I did have a gf years ago but she left because she thought I was poor. I met most of my romantic opportunities in school and now that I'm no longer in school I essentially have none.

>>83529602
I work. Nobody talks to me there. I don't go to bars, I'm a recovering alcoholic. I lost all the friends I did have and the one relationship I had with a girl I ended many years ago.

>>83529599
>how are you 31 and still insecure about your height of all things?

you just judge and judge like the women. keep punching down (very funny) i bet you feel good

>>83529599
How tall are you? I'm 5'10 and my height and the way women react to it still bothers me. If I was 5'5 it would consume my soul to endure all the bullshit from men and women that comes with that.

>>83529633
>you just judge and judge like the women. keep punching down (very funny) i bet you feel good
I am not punching down... I am telling you your mental is fucked up and it's probably a very sad existence. I hope you stop this. Imagine being 31 and going around thinking all of that shit

Is there a point to using dating apps and engaging in "ironic" honesty where you just openly admit to being a hikki NEET weeb and pray you can ride on your looks to generate interest? Or are you just guaranteeing that people screenshot your profile and mock you among their friends and all you're accomplishing is having an embarrassing digital footprint for the rest of your life?

>>83529644
>Imagine being 31 and going around thinking all of that shit

thinking it? i live it. i see how people react to me. what are you even saying here. it's worse than being black in the 50s

>>83529615
I'm not going to do that. In addition to a personal platonic relationship, we also have a business relationship. I consider her family to be my second family. If we don't get married, we'll still be lifelong friends. I'll just have to marry someone else.

>>83529602
Growing up around millennial women in the metoo era made me not want to deal with women all my youth and now it just looks depressing to try to date so I just do nothing and barely talk to anyone.

>Who are the 30 year old women fucking/dating?
unironically zoomer losers in their late 20s, the only ones who will take them.

Most millennial men have given up on dating

>>83529653
I'm open and honest about being a failure and the only type of responses I get are pity, condescension and anger, not mockery

>>83529724
On dating apps? So women are matching with you just to lecture you? I suppose that's at least an in to conversation with other humans.

>>83529574
you can definitely find some that are beautiful. but anyways if you want European girls I recommend Eastern Europe like Hungary (esp Budapest)

>>83529700
>Most millennial men have given up on dating
the generational numbers only changed about 20% for millennials; most millennials are still normies. You are just one of that extra 20% not reproducing. It's not "most". This is one of the more retarded things losers do, come here and talk about how all of society is like them. You can't fix a problem if you don't realize it exists

both on apps and irl. On apps they'd match just to be fake nice and try to give me advice:
>be urself :)
and then they'd stop replying

>>83529751
>>83529830
also bored single moms and bitter hags looking for attention

>>83529827
>but anyways if you want European girls I recommend Eastern Europe like Hungary (esp Budapest)
Hungary isn't Eastern Europe and it's 100% 1st world...

>>83529365
I hope it's not the same girl that I like from another continent who is sick. I think talking to girls online isn't good for me, I should just be alone

>>83529849
>bitter hags looking for attention
>and then they'd stop replying
Can't be too starved for attention

>>83529871
I made a profile the other day with a fat, middle age woman and claimed to be a single mother in the bio and I had 50 matches within 24 hours, 5-10 of them were visibly above average

>>83529640
no way you are 5'10. im 5'10.5 and because my country has been invaded by deathnics im noticeably taller than most guys and women actually comment how im tall.

>>83529887
I don't really understand the purpose of you making a fake profile to reprove the point that men will fuck anything with legs.
You do you I guess

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when i was last on bumble as a 31m i was shocked by how fat all the women my age were (mfw).

basically after age 25, the vast majority of remaining single women are fat.

>>83529897
My country has lots of short jeets but they're invisible to women and a minority. The acceptable height for women here still starts at 6'0.

>>83529907
>I don't really understand the purpose
it demonstrates this >>83529871
they are not attention starved.

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>>83527463
I haven't had any contact with a woman that would realistically have the potential to result in a date in over a decade.

>>83529916
If you dont mind sharing, what country?

>>83529871
they want a full-time jester to entertain them and flirt but never ever ask them for a date

>>83527463
>30+ Anons, how do you feel about your dating prospects?
I mean they probably exist but I just feel bad for anyone who would want to date me.
>>83528656
I don't think people care that much especially at community college I remember quite a few older students in some of my classes. Not really a high judgement type of area most people are chill and just trying to get through their own lives.

>>83527463
>33 years old
>Virgin, never been on a date or kissed
>Had an e-gf for several years but never met up due to me being a bitch about travelling long distances alone

>Obese
>Balding
>Autistic
>Social anxiety
>Live with parents in a small rural town
>Work part-time
>No IRL friends
>No productive hobbies, just consume media
>Probably depressed, no drive to change

>>83529602
srsly nigga?

>>83529858
What is she sick with? I doubt another fembot has the same prognosis as mine.

>>83530185
>>Obese
>>Balding
>>Autistic
>>Social anxiety
>>Live with parents in a small rural town
>>Work part-time
>>No IRL friends
>>No productive hobbies, just consume media
>>Probably depressed, no drive to change

did your parents never get on your cases about being a loser or did they just enable every bad decision?

>>83530299
>Shit parenting + > autistic
>Never learns basic self care (exercise/eating well)
>Already shit social life compounds because no one wants to be close to a fat idiot
>Depression from having a shit life prevents him from ever taking charge and doing what he can to salvage it

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>>83527463
What was his appeal? Being a cynical bastard? Gen-Xers loved his ass, and I never understood it. They grew up in good times and acted like the world was shit. Now it actually is shit and they're quiet.

32 and I'm trying Jewbook's dating app since they don't charge for likes, going about as well as one can expect.

I really need a woman to unload into, I'm at the point I'm just waking up in the middle of the night with my cock having gone off like a shotgun leaving my blanket and legs soaked with jizz with my balls feeling weirdly empty.

>>83530299
>>Obese
Parents are obese too
>>Balding
Thanks dad
>>Autistic
Mom was 42 whe I was born
>>Social anxiety
I'm not sure how much exposure would have helped, I've been working customer service jobs since 2012 and still can't do eye contact
>>Live with parents in a small rural town
I guess the could have kicked me out by now, but probably know I'd end up fucked
>>Work part-time
To be fair my dad is always on my case about finding full-time work
>>No IRL friends
Even as a kid my friendships were fairly shallow mainly due to autism, and I'm not assertive enough to try to make new ones
>>No productive hobbies, just consume media
My parents probably should have put me in some clubs as a kid, but I hate things that involve practice
>>Probably depressed, no drive to change
This might be due to my shitty diet and sedentary lifestyle, I've been on a few medications but none have made much difference

I think their biggest mistake was not giving me responsibilities or regular chores growing up, I wasn't expected to do much outside of school (where I barely tried)

>>83527463
I just turned 30 in November. I have been single since 2023. I really do not know where to go from here. It feels nice not having to worry about being a certain way in order to make a woman happy who is never happy irregardless. Can someone give me good reasons to try again? Any compelling arguments to be made?

>>83530392
Ever try supplements? I'm on a men's all in one Vitamin, Calcium for my shit bones, and Fish Oil.

>>83530414
I take a men's multivitamin and extra vitamin D

For a while I tried weird shit like lion's mane mushroom pills, but no effect

Do you think fish oil does much?

>>83530424
Only just started it myself but my brother loves it. Granted he shilled it to help with joint pain more then anything.

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I was thinking about starting some sort of cleaning business. How would I compete for marketshare? I was thinking about just working for free to start. I wonder if that'll work.

>>83530478
People would be very suspicious of a free cleaning service IMO

>>83530483
First cleaning free?

>>83527463
Dropped the ball today with a girl at the art store. Do you think she works every Tuesday? She probably despawned when I left the store and I'll never see her again. She was cute and her makeup was on-point. No way she didn't already have a BF. And if she didn't she probably doesn't like skinny buff gamer guys anyways. God I always fuck it up.

>>83530626
You give them a sales pitch where you clean a part of their driveway or whatever to show them how dirty it is and what you can do for them, and normal people would rather have an all dirty or all clean driveway than have a dirty driveway with a clean spot, so then you give them a discount on cleaning the rest of it.

I'm married. I've only ever been with one girl. If I didn't marry her, I would be alone.
This only happened because she's obsessed with me. I never imagined I would get a gf, let alone marry anyone.
Even though many robots would kill to be me, I feel quite 'meh' about the whole thing, because I believe she's just going through a very protracted manic period which could end at any time and she'll say she doesn't love me anymore.

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>>83527463
32,

18-25 year olds still message me on instagram.


they are all stupid whores and get on my nerves though so i mostly ignore them.

>>83527463
>30+ Anons, how do you feel about your dating prospects?
>What is your experience dating after the age of 30?
Dating?? None. However I used a pic of a balding 50 yr old man and went to a sugar baby site and set my income to 200K and 30 mins after logging in I had 20 messages from pretty girls 18-35.

>>83531100
>you are so cool
tell me what makes you cool so I can imitate you

I don't have any experience. I'm a kissless virgin and no woman has ever shown any interest in me. Being autistic and below average looking is a death sentence to your dating life.
I gave up and now my goal is to get rich. Thankfully that allows me to get my mind off dating because I'm too busy.

>>83531230
Semi-based. What is your plan to get rich?

>>83531324
Tech stuff. Idk if it will work out, but even if it doesn't I enjoy doing it and takes my mind off the bad things in life.

>>83531344
Want to get rich together? I bet we could be more effective as a team.

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>>83527463
I gave up on the idea of dating and relationships in 2012

>>83531432
>I gave up on the idea of dating and relationships in 2012
r8?

>>83531491
you can use words to communicate you know

What are the chances I will meet someone via online dating at age 35 do you think?

The few photos I have of myself aren't chad-tier.

>30+ Anons, how do you feel about your dating prospects?
I don't feel anything and I don't even care at this point.
I always had little hopes, but they turned to zero the moment I started balding.
>What is your experience dating after the age of 30?
Ex coworker made it clear she was into me, literally stormed out of the room. I'm not physically attracted to her and she's the kind of annoying person that won't shut up ever.
Also a friend said her gf could introduce me to one of her friends, dodged it too. I already have a hard time looking more or less normal around friends, a potential gf would spot it rather quickly.

I'm pretty sure there's a girl out there that's a perfect match for me and I'm also pretty damn sure I'm not going to find her.

I am 30 going on 31. I lost my virginity at 29 to a Brazilian woman (in Brazil, not a prostitute either). I've gotten a good couple or lays out of two Brazilian women I'm stringing along. I also got a handtil of hookups in the US this year. I have given up on the prospect of finding a woman that genuinely loves me because I am a manlet and no woman in the US ever showed interest in me ever. I am relegated to dating foreigners and I think I better settle down soon because women's standards (even globally) are increasing day-by-day. I am hoping to wife up one of my Brazilian gfs because I took her virginity and I think she's wife material. That's the best I am gonna get.

>>83527463
I feel like they've gotten much better. When I was younger every guy with a pulse was fighting to unload inside me and it was too exhausting to filter through all the creeps to find the few decent ones. Now that I'm older I don't really get sexually harrassed anymore and while I still get approached every time I go out it's pretty much only from age appropriate men who act like gentlemen.

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>>83527463
It's bleak for me at 35. I've tried my whole life to date but I can't even get women to notice me. It's like I'm invisible. I've been on every dating app for years without a single like, except for one OF whore. Even single mothers and literal prostitutes see me as beneath them. I have hobbies and passions, I have a job and a car, I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I feel like I'm going insane with how lonely and invisible I am; I feel like I could walk up to someone and scream in their face, and they wouldn't notice me. Life has been a surreal nightmare for me and I can't wait for it to end.

>>83533340
Do you own a house/apartment?

>>83533342
No. The last time I tried to live alone I became a hermit, didn't leave the house or speak to anyone for weeks and eventually tried to kill myself. I have to live with my parents because they're the only ones who I have any sort of relationship with me and their presence in my life stops me from going insane. In my 20s I had my own place, but it didn't change anything, I was no more or less invisible than I am now. Houses are so fucking expensive these days, I don't know how I'm supposed to afford them anyways.

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>>83530084
Btw, anyone else uninterested in dating? Like completely uninterested? I had a gf in HS and had sex a dozen or so times with 4 different girls, last time being when I was 22yrs old. Since then I've had a complete dry spell nor have I dated anyone. I met 1 girl off tinder when I was 25 and got brutally ghosted. Likewise got rejected brutally by every girl I approached that same year.

After that year specifically something changed in me I genuinely stopped caring about the opposite sex. I remember being really bitter about it for a while, getting drunk and having a near meltdown about why didn't the girl I want want me, then the next day it was like I'd achieved catharsis.

The bitterness went away, the anger went away, the sadness, etc. Now I feel perfectly happy alone. I like being by myself. I really, really like being by my self a lot. I get annoyed maintaining any semblance of a social life. If I see my friends once in a year that's enough for me. I have 0 female friends in my circle.

All of my friends are similar, they had success when younger but from what I can tell none of them are getting laid either AFAIK. They haven't had girlfriends for years. Seems to be common with my particular age group maybe.

Anyways, the idea of dating seems repulsive to me now. I don't want to be bothered. I theoretically think sex is something I should care about but in practice I really don't. I rarely even jerk off, maybe few times a year. I said I'd get a prostitute if I ever get desperate enough but I have never felt desperate enough. Also prostitution grosses me out morally.

>tl;dr: at 25yrs old I stopped wanting to date, anyone else like this?

Oh yeah I did notice younger women are a lot my pleasant generally. They still have a spark in their eyes and not jaded and cynical. Like at my jobs the coworkers all the older women seem unhappy and stuff. But usually younger women are a ray of sunshine and optimistic energy.

>>83531091
>I'm married. I've only ever been with one girl. If I didn't marry her, I would be alone.
That's the way it should be.

As a woman I notice men are more of kissasses and more desperate in general. When I was younger men were mean and picky as fuck. Since I became single at 28 I've been just having my ass kissed

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>>83527463
Used to be a virgin til 25.

I got laid the day before and on my birthday, pretty well, this was 2 weeks ago.

Met a girl on Bumble and told her she could be the last girl of my 20s and first of my 30s. She was super into it.

Turns out she was a little nuts and started posting photos of us on social media 48 hours after meeting me.

Come to Argentina, the girls are European and dont look like goblins but are just as crazy and horny as all the other south american countries.

>>83527463
>how do you feel about your dating prospects?
Bad, in 2026 I'll try to find Asperger girl friend by going to church and the supermarket outside rush period.
>What is your experience dating after the age of 30?
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>>83533497
I also went to a cumbia concert and some random early 20 girl came up to talk and dance with me, then we made out and she gave me my number.

And theres another girl in Buenos Aires, I'm a bit conflicted bc I really like this one.

But overall, considering I fucked 1 girl and madeout with 4 girls over the last 3 weeks of my 30s, and it took me 25 yrs to get laid.

Pretty good.

Get fit guys. Helped me a lot, I used to be obese, now I'm not shredded, but very sporty looking with abs, combine that with being in a country like Argentina where women are really sexually forward, things just happen if you let then.

Call me a degenerate but I kept a little memento from my birthday fuck

>>83533558
Are you tall desu senpai?

>>83533340
another fellow suicidal duck poster!

>>83533419
Yeah I felt that way in my 20's, when you hit 30 it changes fast and the peace and respite you get from it becomes a crushing loneliness

I was you once anon, it'll catch up to you

>>83533647
5'10 178cm.

Average as it gets, maybe a tiny bit above average in Argentina, but they are primarily Italian/Spanish/German genetically so they arent as short as other latinos

>>83533867
Idk man, Im getting more attention from (legal aged) teens and early 20s girls at 30 than I did in my 20s. 10x

Get fit, fuck a few women, women can smell the inexperience once you break the ice it doesnt matter, you can screw plenty in your 30s and even 40s.

40 might be a problem if you didnt screw in your 30s, otherwise still young enough

>>83533929
What do you mean attention?

Like, in what context do these women show you attention?

You must socialise a lot etc.

>>83533929
I've slept with 10+ women, sleeping with women doesn't replace genuine companionship

>>83533969
>I've slept with 10+ women
Did you lose count? At that low of a number? I know mine, 38

>>83533955
As I said I went to the concert and a girl came up to me.

Basically I quit my job last year and spent several months doing a walking trail in Spain, then I went hitchhiking through Europe for 8 months, I met so many people.

I dont wanna get too specific because I dont wanna doxx myself, I met a few Argentinians in the Balkans, they offered me a place to sleep if I come to Argentina, been meeting a lot of friends of friends, a few girls on bumble and obviously they invited me to a latino festival and some girl literally came up to mr and shoced her tongue down my throat.

Hitchhiking is an inherently social experience tho, people invited me to eat with them, sleep in their houses, coffee (balkans and eastern europe is fantastic for this).

Really helps you get over that shyness of talking to people when you need to talk to ~5 strangers a day.

And every so often, maybe in Bosnia a girl picks you up and invites you to some weird bosnian festival and you spend a week there hanging out with her and her friends.

Weird things happen. I met the most beautiful Bulgarian redhead.

5 yrs ago if my future self told me that these things would happen to me I wouldnt believe it.

Let me put it like this, when you've walked 1500km by foot through desert in Spain, and hitchhiked through 20 different countries over 8 months.

You will also have more to talk about, and theres plenty of women who find this sort of stuff attractive. Its like a 50/50, half of them get really scared off because you seem very unstable and mobile, the other half kinda dig it. I literally invited 3 girls to hitchhike with me (one I met in Albania from Australia, one Serbian girl who went to Romania with me and an American girl who went around Poland with me).

Only slept with one of them, but just having female company around feels nice

>>83533991
Height?

I really don't understand how a guy can sleep with 38 women, it's chad-tier.

>>83533991
Congratulations and it's 14 I had to think on it because it's been a few years and it's not something I dwell on, but are you happy anon? Truly fulfilled or just numbing yourself with bodies to fill a void you know is too deep to fill

>>83534016
Thanks man.

What were those girls doing in those countries and were they alone?

Any scary experiences?

I fear I would be scammed or robbed.

>>83534017
Most pathetic samefag I've ever seen in my life

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>>83534030
Depends on the country.

Balkans are REALLY safe, fuck the propaganda man. Awkward experiences MANY. Real danger not really.

But you will listen about how bad racist and genocidal Serbs are in Albania, Croatia you will listen to them talk ablut how bad Bosnians are in Serbia you will listen to them talk about the albanians. And everyone will tell you about how much they hate gypsies.

You will listen to each countries own retarded brand of politics. If you go to North Macedonia, be ready to listen to them rant about Alexander the Great.

Awkward YES, Dangerous NO.

But Ive also met plenty of wonderful people, I have 7 contacts in Serbia that offered me to sleep there. In Cacak, Belgrade, Negotin, Zajecar, Leskovac, Vlasotince and Sokobanja.

Shooting guns up in the Serbian boonies with a Serbian guy that picked me up then meeting his family and him showing me around his blueberry farm. Shits crazy sometimes.

Yeah all those girls were solo travelers except the Serbian girl she was just a girl I went on a date with from Bumble, she never hitchhiked before or been to Romania so we went across the border over the weekend for a day.

Photo is from Bulgaria.

Homogenous eastern european countries are super safe to hitchhike. Id be afraid to do it in parts of America. Heres a nice tip the poorer the better the experience (as long as its ethnically homogenous and white). The people are beyond hospitable in Eastern Europe and Balkans (best place to hitchhike)

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>>83534022
I am happy, I had a short hoe phase it was only like 2.5 years. I'm otherwise a strict monogamist just wanted to see what hoe life was like. A rape scare basically scared me straight now I just have a bf and don't want to do it again

>>83534016
What country are you from?

Sounds like an interesting time, makes me regret not doing something similar myself while I NEETed for half a year.

>>83534145
Sorry cant say I dont wanna doxx myself, Ive gotten somewhat known in certain travel circles for doing stupid shit, I can't be too specific or go into any specific stories because while I dont post on social media, some of my travel buddies did.

I'm a white European

>>83534100
Sounds based. An Australian girl solo travelling in Albania sounds insane to me.

Also, where did you stay if you had nobody offer to host you? Hostels or hotels?

>>83534156
No worries mate. I'm from the UK and was tempted to do something like this while unemployed during Covid. I'm 34 now and work full-time, regret it!

Would you do something like this again?

How did you stay in touch with people, Argentinians etc, if you have no social media?

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>>83534159
Thats where ur wrong, Albania isnt as dangerous as you think.

Also she had never hitchhiked before, being in hostels in say Tirana is super safe, and INSANELY cheap.

Albania is actually paradise for hitchhiking, and I know how albanians are perceived and the stereotype is 100% valid, but the Albanians within albanianare fine, the ones abroad are the problem.

Go to Albania check it out, you'll be surprised. Its not as big of a shithole as 30 yrs ago, but still cheap

>>83534171
Ohh yeah Im going to hitchhike through the caucases and Russia next year ~4/6 months

Take my tent and hitchhike/camp

I have whatsapp, viber telegram everything.

Even Instagram, I just dont upload photos. Some of the people I travelled with did, and some of them had pretty high follower counts, it would not be impossible to identify me if I said anything specific.

>>83534209
Not trying to doxx you bro, no worries about feeling weird about posting anything you consider too personal.

How come you have the time and money to do this though? Aren't you worried about not finding a job when you decide to do so?

>>83534225
I lived a NEET lifestyle except for the part where I had a job for 7 yrs until 27. Then for 2 yrs I did off and on. I went to South east asia for 2 months ... worked 4 months 2 months somewhere else... worked 4.

At 29 I was like fuck it. I wanna do it year round. I can get a job for 4 months and cover 8 months worth of travelling somewhere cheap. Its not THAAAT hard

I have accumulated money. I could keep up with this lifestyle for, I estimate ~6/7 years, I dont spend much money, 20-30 euro a day

>>83534131
Happy for you femanon, treat him well please

>>83534275
Sounds really cool, Anon. I'm jelly. Think I could get into this in my mid-30s or will I be flagged as a weirdo boomer?

>>83534171
Also I met a British guy, late 30s, invited him to go to the nearest town with me with hitchhiking bc he hasnt done it before at the time and he was fascinated with my trip and we ended up going through 5 countries together.

Now I have a contact in Portsmouth and eventually one day I will visit then go hitchhike and camp in the scottish highlands.

Wont have to pay for accomodations or transportation (sleep in his house + camp in Scotland and go by hitchhike).

Going abroad gets really cheap once you start getting some contacts abroad.

>>83534350
Cool as hell. You just use whatsapp etc to keep in touch with these people?

>>83534334
You'll be fine I met many ppl in their 30s.

I would implore you tho to groom yourself as much as you can on the road and get fit. Dont look homeless, look approachable and friendly.

Again I dont wanna say anything too identifiable, but I met a 50 something lady in Spain that walked across Europe and basically knocked on doors of churches and asked the priests if she could sleep on the floor.

I actually fell in love with that woman, call me crazy but Ive never found a woman almost twice my age that attractive.

Slim, silver hair, very fit and the skin of a woman in her mid 30s. Italian. Im pretty sure there was something there despite the age diff, the way that woman touched me with such grace.

Anyway if an Italian woman in her 50s can walk across the European continent by foot, you can do it as a 30 smth man.

>>83534368
Yeah of course, I've literally been staying with 3 different Argentinians one in Burnos Aires one in Cordoba and Im yet to visit one in a very small town in Patagonia during this trip. All 3 of them I met on my hitchhiking trip.

Thats why Im here I somehow met 3 Argentinians all offered me a place to sleep and it seemed like a good deal.

>>83534389
Inspirational, I appreciate you taking the time mate.

>>83534389
Looking approachable and friendly when you're a 5'4" adult male yields you friends. Which is nice, but when a lover is what you truly need, it won't help much.

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>>83534424
I actually have so many insane stories I cant diaclose here, but let me be clear. I was very much a robot from 15 until 27.

>>83534457
Yeah, thats the hand you've been dealt, but you cant dwell right?

Would you rather be the 5'4 guy who spent 4 months hitchhiking across the Russian Siberia or walked along the Via Dinarica (really cool trail some French guy I met in Albania was doing, with his tent by foot, just an idea) or the 5'4 guy who mopes in bed because he got dealt a bad hand.

It sucks it REALLY does, you have a bad hand, but trust me Ive met some short guys that know how to command respect.

I'm not going to gaslight you, you are at a disadvantage, but it doesnt mean you cant play the game and enjoy life.

>>83534497
What was the first places you visited when you decided to get into this type of thing?

Was it awkward and uncomfortable at first?

I have teh tism and women perceive me as a weird creepy virgin even though I've had a lot of sex in my life
women in general are really stupid and I don't like dealing with them
I just need one good woman to be the center of attention in my life forever and vice-versa but that's impossible to find

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>>83534567
I had a mental breakdown, there was a channel called ADVchina two guys driving around China with motorcycle, I didnt have a drivers license but I heard you dont need one in Vietnam.

I had a mental breakdown because of 27 yrs of NEETDOME, bought a plane ticket to Hanoi, I had 48 hours of the biggest anxiety attacks of my life, I thought I was going to die and puke 24/7.

When I landed in Hanoi all the anxiety was gone, I rented a semi automatic motorcycle scooter and spent the next 2 months driving from Hanoi to Vietnam through most vietnamese provinces without a drivers license.

It was by far the stupidest thing I did in my life, but I needed it to escape NEETDOME.

I was completely underprepared, I almost died nesr Phong Nha due to a massive heatwave and exhaustion, but that trip also saved my life.

I lost about 10kg on that trip, and I found a slept with a very cute Vietnamese tailor shop owner in Hoian.

I almost died on that trip, it was by far the stupidest thing I did in my life, but it also saved my life. There were only two options either I die there or I take the biggest gamble of my life and do something crazy.

I clocked ~4500km without a drivers license.

I swear when I came back people could smell I was different, Im still considered a weirdo by people, but on the good side of weird

>>83534658
That is amazing, proud of you Anon. NEETing until 27 is hardcore, but then again so is doing the opposite.

Would you recommend Vietnam as a good starter option?

How did you meet the Vietnamese lady?

You should make a thread one day about all your adventures, I'm sure plenty of people here would love it and learn from it.

>>83534695
Tbh Bumble, I've met other women since naturally, but that was a dating ap, she was nice cute. Id post a photo but I dont wanna dox her bc she was nice.

Owened her own business very beautiful.

Let me tell you tho, I told her I needed to drive to Saigon, we spent 3 days together, I told her I cant stay but I can fly back to Hoi An for a week after I reach Saigon.

She said better to not come back bc she'd get too attached.

I have never felt... such freedom driving back into the jungle towards Mang Den and Kon Tum... i could have kept fucking but instead I had something more important to do. Altho Ironically a day later I broke my phone near a waterfall on the way to Quy Nhon and had to drive 100km without navigation and only 8 vietnamese phrases.

I ask one Vietnamese rural local Quy Nhon he points me in one direction 1 hr later I ask the next he points me in another. Took me 10 hrs to drive those 100km, some of the most stressful 10 hrs of my life.

I made a vietnamese friend in Quy Nhon some young Vietnamese helpes me buy a new phone and get accomodations so I bought some Indian food for him and we hungout for 3 days and met his friends.

I almost passed out near Khe Sanh on a somewhat remote part of the Ho Chi Minh Road, because it was 42 degrees and 80% humidity during a heatwave, if I passed out there it could have been fatal.

Im not saying to do what I did to escape being a NEET but take a risk.

Go to the balkans do some hitchhiking, its densely populated and the people are very hospitable. Do something crazy but slightly less dangerous than me.

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>>83534757
Actually here I guess Im a bit of a dick. To this day I dont kniw what this girl saw in me at the time. She was financially secured for Vietnamese and I was just a dumb white guy driving through her country on a motorbike.

>>83534757
Sounds awesome, thanks again for taking the time. I'm looking at Vietnam now. Tempted to book two weeks from work and scooter from Hanoi to ~Da Nang and then get the train down to Ho Chi Minh. Why the fuck didn't I do this sooner, god damn it. Best of luck to you brother.

>>83534790
Gorgeous. Lucky robot.

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>>83534797
Driving out of Hanoi is a nightmare DONT.

Go to Dalat and start there. Hanoi and Saigon are an urban nightmare, the first 48 hours would be a nightmare.

Theres a company called Tigit for motorbike rentals. I strongly advise not starting in Hanoi, start in either Danang or Dalat and drive to the other place (stop by in Cat Tien, theres a few gps routes you can do)

>>83534658
Very impressive. Something I've often fantasized about. I'm currently injured so doing a bunch of walking and traveling is probably out of the question. Makes me hate my body being broken even more since this is probably the kind of thing I'd have to do to break my cursed existence.

I wonder if they have like work exchange programs where you can go to these countries and work on some dudes farm or something in exchange for food and a place to sleep.

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>>83534820
Never mind Cat Tien, is close to Saigon, Dalat to Hoi An/Da Nang should go through Kon Tum and Quy Nhon, you'll see some interesting coats and mountainous roads

>>83527463
I've never even tried in my entire life? Why start now? I've learned to like my solitude, lack of stress and lack of drama. I look/feel like I'm still in my 20s but now I actually have money and am excited about the prospect of exiting the rat race early, mainly because I have wasted zero money on dating and relationships.

>>83534965
>I wonder if they have like work exchange programs where you can go to these countries and work on some dudes farm or something in exchange for food and a place to sleep.


Its called workaway.

Yes it exists, and its very easy to do met plenty of ppl who have done these type of things. Accomodations + food. Dont really get paid tho

>>83534977
Oh nice. Some of this seems very interesting. This sort of thing feels like it gives a little more direction and purpose to the point of traveling.

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>>83534997
I hated travelling before. I just book a flight now without plans and shit happens. If I meet someone be it hitchhiking or in a hostel they inv me somewhere. I always say yes. Unless the person is sketchy. I say yes to everything.

You want to go to a cumbia concert YES.

You want to have Asado at some guys house YES.

You wanna go on a roadtrip to Sierra de la ventana YES.

Was at some guys house having Asado, a friend of a friend I met in Romania (Argentinian). Shit just happens. Just gotta be comfortable saying yes to opportunities.

>>83534997
>wagie wants to travel to wageslave elsewhere (without a wage!)

Relax man

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>>83535034
>Was at some guys house having Asado, a friend of a friend I met in Romania (Argentinian). Shit just happens. Just gotta be comfortable saying yes to opportunities.

Yesterday, they want me to come to a new years party tonight. I speak barely any Spanish, I think Argentinians just love hanging out with foreigners.

Great Asado, free of charge too

>>83535049
You must have good charisma anon. I'm really happy that you took the chance and that it seems to have worked out. Cheers to you for the year ahead!

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>>83534997
>>83534967
>>83534820
Quit fucking samefagging just because your threads on /tvr/ got no replies you fucking faggot

>>83527463
>dating prospects?
That simply doesnt exist. I have nothing to offer and even me being inexperienced virgin in mid 30s, filters 101% of girls.

>>83528785
>I met my first girlfriend at 33
What was that like? Did she know she was your first gf? Were you a virgin before this (truecel)? Or did you dating have experience beforehand (fakecel)?

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>>83535123
Its 36 degrees outside bc its summer here, and I have a few hrs so I posted a bit on R9K where I used to shitpost 24/7 yrs ago. Little siesta and shitpost

Ppl asked questions and I replied, why are you so salty.

Im genuinely trying to help fellow robots. Life doesnt have to be mundane and boring

>>83535169
Because no one here gives a fuck where to are you fucking retarded nigger

>>>/trv/

>>83535207
I'll stop posting, but the one guy seemed curious.

I kinda feel like I wanted to give some insight as someone who turned 30. Life doesnt stop and its never too late to just take a chance and stop dwelling as a NEET 24/7.

Just trying to be positive. I have nothing to offer to /trv/ but maybe someone buys a ticket somewhere abroad, takes a chance and breaks this dreadful cycle of being a NEET.

Just wanted to offer some insight as a guy who turned 30 a few weeks ago and used to post 24/7 on R9K

without any texts or picture proof this thread has turned into an elaborate larp

>>83535272
why on earth would anyone LARP being 30+ and lonely as fuck?

>>83527463
I am more attractive and more free in my 30s than in my 20s. I have way more sex now (which is to say, sometimes instead of never). But that doesn't mean it's "good," dating still sucks ass. Dating apps get worse every year as people get burned out on them, companies enshittify them, and I age out at the same time.
Nearly 100% of my matches are with women who have at least one of the following:
- Too old to safely have kids (late 30s plus)
- Single mom
- Obese
- Black
- Trans
- Need a green card (least bad)
I fuck attractive moms and older women and sometimes have a relationship with a green card girl. American women barely notice I exist on dating apps but whatever, it is what it is. I like the foreign girls more than most of them anyway. Most American women are some degree of FtM tranny without realizing it, which makes them unsuitable for a serious relationship.
In real life I do get interest from American girls but there isn't much "real life" going on these days so it doesn't present much opportunity. Mostly the opportunities are at work, which is a dangerous place to try to date. It hasn't worked out for me yet but I am still open to it.
So in summary, not great not terrible.
>>83528794
Yes Bumble used to be decent but since they changed it so men can message women first it has devolved into Tinder and is unusable garbage.
>>83528854
Same height as me. Yes it sucks ass. Women suddenly stop being so picky about height in their late 30s, too late to marry but NOT too late to fug :^)

>>83527463
I'm 35 and gave up on women. Unless you're rich or well off it's just not realistic to expect to meet and pull any girl worth interacting with at this age. Maybe if you have a active social life and meet new people often you can get lucky meeting a younger girl if you're put together enough but nobody here has that kind of life. I think other Millennials that talk about dating and relationships still as if we're still a relevant demographic to the smv are delusional and in denial about aging. We're middle aged now and if you haven't found someone by now and don't know how to meet young women you're fucked. Being raised by baby boomer's narcissism has made a lot of people our age unable to comprehend just losing out in life and never getting what they want. It's like they either brain malfunction when you mention it as if it's not a possible outcome or they act like the sky is falling and the world is ending soon with endless conspiracy theories and theology just because they're a loser. Unless you want to settle for fatties, single mothers, or being a pussy whipped betabux dating is over in your 30s.

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Happy new year anons.
I'll try to quit 4chan and overall computer use for a while because I literally feel my soul rotting ever time I'm sitting here.

>>83535329
>Need a green card

What nationality?

>>83535037
I've never worked a day in my life and I'm approaching 30. I suppose it it mildly retard to want to work/volunteer in some third world east asian country with 100x the risk. But I've spent my entire life as a shut-in stuck inside my bedroom, so the concept of being stuck halfway across the world and forced to adapt and figure everything out seems interesting.
>>83535169
It's just crabs in a bucket faggots lashing out at people for no reason. Ignore them. Insights and experiences like yours are monumental to the kinds of retards like me that lurk here.

>>83535998
I'm mid-30s. When I was 28 I quit a well-paying job and NEETed for 6 months. I had the idea of going travelling (even bought a bunch of gear) but it was covid time and I felt too old. Now I look back and realise how young I actually was. The difference between 28 and mid-30s is pretty big, for me at least.

I won't give advice because I rarely take any, but I would say that if your pattern of thinking and behaviour has thus far left you feeling unfulfilled and depressed, then it probably wouldn't hurt to try doing something out of your comfort zone, lest the rest of your years be spent repeating those patterns. Godspeed.

for any passport bros are women overseas more tolerant for 30+ virgin males than the west or are they laughing stock too?

>>83536055
If you want to find a gold digging whore you don't have to travel that far

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>>83535272
If you're talking about the posts where they've turned their lives around with money and women, yeah. I don't know who buys that shit.

>>83535682
The problem is that there is nowhere to go. With the advent of AI generated garbage the internet has become an EVEN MORE of a shithole. It's insane just how bad normalfags enjoy dogshit. Normalfags had a hard time recognising (bad) photoshops, with AI only God knows where this is going to lead to.

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>>83536077
>The problem is that there is nowhere to go.
I'm planning on going as ludite as I can.
I loathe technology and modern internet a bit more by the day.

>>83529751
>So women are matching with you just to lecture you?

Yeah, the same way you'd match with a girl to tell her about some shit that's interesting to you. I was reading wheel of time and no one in my life reads books so when a girl on a dating app I had no attraction to whatsoever liked it I was happy to talk about it... she ghosted me after she realized that was the only thing I was talking about.

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>>83535998
>But I've spent my entire life as a shut-in stuck inside my bedroom, so the concept of being stuck halfway across the world and forced to adapt and figure everything out seems interesting.

Do it. The 30 yr old anon that is currently in Argentina.

This was my exact thought process, you need stress to make you grow and adapt, thats how you find your self respect and adulthood.

Do it, but my tip is to get a job for 6 months just to be able to finance yourself a tiny bit and have a tiny bit of a safety net, then go to SEA, or just throw a dart on the map and go.

It doesnt matter where ur going just that you need pressure to adapt, and while you are adapting you can remold yourself ans who you are.

I think one of the camino trails might be great (just dont do the french one, its too normie and commercial).

Look into Camino Inverno, Norte or primitivo.

Its basically a multi day walk where ur walking 30km a day, through Spanish country, mountains or coast depending on which you pick.

I walked Via de la plata (the silver road) going from south to north spain.

Beautiful path, met many people, almost got bitten by a snake, almost went nuts walking thriugh 30km of vineyards. Challenged myself to do two stages in one day clocking out at 56km in a single day.

Challenge yourself.

Heres a nice little photo I snapped in extremadura desert in May while walking there.

Challenge yourself physically and mentally thats how you will escape this decade long slump ur in.

(Also the reason I recommend the walking trails in Spain is bc you can get sleeping accomodations for 10 euro) and you can budget 20-30 and its fairly accessible.

Its like a good first baby step for doing long walks or trails.

>>83536128
Well I totally fucked my leg up in the last year so I need to see physical therapists and shit. But I'll probably try to get a job and fix that before just up and flying off to another country. But it would be nice to have experiences I could talk to people about to seem like an interesting person instead of just being a guy that's done nothing but play video games and watch anime for his entire life.

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>>83536077
>If you're talking about the posts where they've turned their lives around with money and women, yeah. I don't know who buys that shit


Thats me anon, I dont know why its hard to believe.

My life isnt perfect, I need to go to massive extremes to feel normal, hitchhike walk go to foreign countries to escape anxiety and depression.

It works for me.

Its not perfect, whatever made me into a initially NEET still exists, because I still work different to most people.

All Im offering is an EXTREME coping mechanism that works for me

>>83536086
>>83536077
I've already tried that approach and got deep into it for years but the problem is it's just gets boring. I don't have much trouble quitting things cold turkey. But rventually your mind gets sick of no new information no new stimulation day after day. If you have a bunch of offline hobbies to keep busy and irl friends than you can probably manage but the internet and even this shithole 4chan fill a void that otherwise is just left with silence which feels fine for a while but eventually you want some input data again. It's the same reason baby boomers can't quit television or facebook. You need something else to occupy your mind enough.

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>>83536154
I met a croatian guy who drives his 4x4 truck all over the world with his dog.

He had some sort of cancer and quit his job at 50 smth and is on his way to Mongolia from Germany. Its not about the mode of transport but the spirit, broken leg or not.

Guy in question. Met him in Dalmatia

>>83535272
>>83536077
I mean. 46 here, most of my posts usually get no or maybe 1 reply. I too do believe that it's mostly larps, so they don't really have anything to say or share with actual oldbots since they aren't one themselves.
Though to be fair, there's nothing really new you can add as an old guy. I'm a complete NEET, don't have any dating experience or prospect for obvious reasons, but am not really interested in mulling over this, I'm unironically getting too old for this. So the most I can say when I pop up in the 30+ threads is "eh life's not perfect but could be worse. Not having a relationship sucks but that's just how it is."

I do also believe that most robots just reintegrate society or at least a normal social life around their 35+. They probably realize that being seriously alone is going to drain their mental down so they "fix" the situation one way or another. I think I've seen maybe 3 or 4 guys over 40 in those threads for the past 8 months. And even those guys were actually fairly normal people with a job, a social circle and a wife or ex-wife.

>>83529602
>Who are the 30 year old women fucking/dating?

Have you dated 30 year old women? They are the losers of their kind. To be 30, single with no kids you've must've done something wrong. I dated a couple of 30 year olds and it has been really depressing. One was a pothead child therapist who was adopted (her parents actually traveled to another country to get her illegally). She lived in a small 1 bedroom apartment and was the epitome of normal. I like latinas, so I thought she was one of them but then she told me how her dad is italian, and her grandmother is rich, I couldn't take being with someone who was adopted and had a better life- also she was ridiculously naive. The other was dealing with being a failure like me, but still lived a better life than me with loving rich parents, she graduated from NYU and worked there, and went on about how the people who actually pay gets more advantages than those who were on city loans and what not. I'm just a sad loser who fucked up his life and works in retail I can't handle that shit. Other than that dating single moms are the worst. Their only free time is when the kid is in school and they're looking for a provider mostly and I'm not that.

>>83529602
>Do none of you work?
Most workplaces have a very limited supply of young single women. Often none at all, and if one does arrive she'll immediately be swarmed my more attractive and more confident men.

>Do none of you go out to the bar?
Alone? Who does that? Also young people don't even do that much anymore, unc

>Do none of you talk to people?
We do. Now what?

>Do you all just stay silent not say anything to anybody?
Hyperbolic bullshit.

>>83536202
What camera do you use? Just a phone I'm guessing.

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>>83536086
Some anons have suggested the darknet, but they're most likely late millennials or early zoomers who don't understand that 00s era internet will never come back just like 00s 4chan will never come back. It was a specific moment in time and technology and entertainment that all coalesced together to form it.

>>83536241
>I do also believe that most robots just reintegrate society or at least a normal social life around their 35+.
Possibly, but they wouldn't be posting on 4chan especially nowadays when it's almost entirely spam and bots. However, I did make a prediction more than a decade ago that there would be a silent mass suicide of millennial males because things have been stacked against socially, financially and romantically. The 10s weren't remotely kind to losers.

>>83527463
>30+ Anons, how do you feel about your dating prospects?
GRIM

in my area, you either go for
>chicks who are covered in tats
>onlyfans whores
>women with a kid
>women who still think they haven't hit the wall and don't want kids/marriage

really considering getting into a church or some kind of volunteer work to meet desperate women

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>>83527463
an overwhelming feeling of dread washes over me when i think about the prospect about dating women my age
dating women who spent years being easy whores to top % guys, mocking short/bald/ugly/small dicked/poor men, who are all feminists, who had abortions
this is your dating prospects. they will all lie about their past or conveniently forget

its either this, date the youngest legal teenager you can get (you cant get those) or die alone

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>>83527972
fucking normie reeeeee fuck you and your new year i am olone for 34 years you piece of normie shit

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>>83536200
>I've already tried that approach and got deep into it for years but the problem is it's just gets boring.
What did you do?

(Man, do you remember when 4chan was really fast?)

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At the very least I thought of giving up the smartphone. I have a problem with refreshing and scrolling like many people. It's where I browse 4chan the most now. I have to imagine how much time I spent here and elsewhere with little to show for it.

I could keep connected at home. I think that's fair balance. But the phone also comforts when I encounter uncomfortable things outside, so it'll be hard to give it up. Even if I just block websites, I will play with the screen and buttons like a fidget toy.

>>83529366
> people want to be around them. Adapt similar traits
Hard to adapt this trait

>>83536259
So youre in a worse position than them and think you're too good for them

>>83536200
>But eventually your mind gets sick of no new information no new stimulation day after day

Boy do I know that feel. I've done a week or two, a month detox after reading Nicolas Carr "The Shallows" but always drift back to either here or youtube because my life is a void without it. Cal Newport's "Digital Minimalism" tells you to substitute that time with something else, but what is there to do? Am I supposed to just get over my hangups and go out to a bar or join some club or some shit? I know it's the answer but finding things to do without the internet is super hard, also everything costs money while the internet is free.

>>83536645
>At the very least I thought of giving up the smartphone.
Do you use the smartphone like other people? I don't infinite scroll and only visit a handful of places on the internet because most of it has gone to shit, half the time I'm staring at other people's phones just infinite scrolling pure dogshit and wonder how they are entertained.

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>>83527463
>30+ Anons, how do you feel about your dating prospects?
Honestly? After dating a few women I straight up don't care anymore. The negatives outweigh the benefits. The only benefits are sex, cuddling and having someone to hangout with. That's it really. The negatives involve possibly losing your hobbies (I always hide my vidya hobby from them to appear normie), dealing with their grumpiness and periods, having them be clingy when you often just want to be alone, having to buy them Valentine's gifts or Christmas gifts, having to deal with inlaws and pretending to like their family when you couldn't give a fuck... Maybe more I've forgotten
>What is your experience dating after the age of 30?
Pretty dead since I'm 34. I lost my virginity at 29 to a girl from this very board. I dated a girl for two years from 31 to 33 and after that, I pretty much want to remain single for a long time. Now that AI is getting really good with chatbots and video creation, my faps have been 10000x more powerful than any sex I've ever had.

>>83536645
I audiobook max. I have an old iphone because I hate apple so I don't use it often and when I do use it at home it's to go on dating apps (and again that ain't really happening) that I hide behind face lock other than that IG and Twitter does not entice me enough to use them more than 10 mins at a time... unless I'm really high but I quit THC a while ago, now all I do when I'm bored in public is listen to audiobooks while staring into space creating the scene.

>>83536064
that's not what I asked though. plus I am not even that rich as a eurofag

>>83536179
If Vietnam safe to hitchhiking if im not white or Azn?

I must be one of the most pathetic here. Still a virgin but I've had a long distance gf for over 10 years now. Sheer dumb luck meeting her at a hospital. But she has a learning disability and other things. And she pursued me like an unhinged low functioning person; should I feel shame that I didn't do the pursuing as a man? How wrong does it sound? I'm not good at judging so I really don't know. Maybe her judgement is better than I give her credit for, and she merely saw me as her most realistic option in her locked down life.

Regardless she's been waiting for me ever since she moved away. I'm too incompetent to get things together. And now with my age, I feel the urge to spread my wings for once and experience a fraction of the things I always wanted. Like sailing. I do enjoy spending time with her. I I like helping her. I don't want to abandon her. But the commitment to her will be huge and I may never do anything else again. Or maybe it's a moot point and I'll never get to see her again anyway because I'm a poor bastard.

>>83534389
> a 50 something lady in Spain that walked across Europe and basically knocked on doors of churches and asked the priests if she could sleep on the floor.
>
>I actually fell in love with that woman, call me crazy but Ive never found a woman almost twice my age that attractive.
Did you get to fuck?

i fuck them in the ass and never call back
i want to meet a good girl but i have better chances getting a letter from an owl telling me i have been accepted at hogwarts
the world did wrong by me and the world is dead to me fuck them all

>>83536939
You can always save up money/ debtmaxx to see her every now and again.
>should I feel shame that I didn't do the pursuing as a man?
When a woman likes you they'll do all the work for you, all you have to do is shutup, go along and allow them to fantasize. Many men (including me) have gotten laid this way. But if you aren't going to do anything but wallow in self pity, you're wasting both of each other's time. You could've been having an actual experience with a girl more your speed and she could've met someone better suited for her needs.

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>>83536303
Just a phone, I travel light, everything goes into my backpack

55L+10L Osprey backpack.

Travel light it makea life enjoyable. I considered taking my camera along, but that shit is just too heavy, I walk around a lot. Everything together is like 8-9KG +3-4L of water sometimes

>>83536967
No, I wasnt a virgin at the time anymore, but I was still too shy to ask her, maybe if I met her again, now a year later Id see.

I had such respect for that woman, she was so gorgeous for her age. She showed me some of her photos in her 20-30s she was a bombshell then too, but I almost preferred her old, she seemed so traveled and self assured. Had a legit crush on a woman almost twice my age me 29, her mid 50s.

>>83536926
No idea. I drove a motorcycle there. Vietnam is safe in terms of violent crime being very low, but you can easily die in a traffic accident.

I actually met a Turkish guy who had an accident when a stray dog ran infront of his scooter near Tam Coc, his foot got stuck in one of the spokes of a wheel and he almost ripped it off, he said he paid nearly 100,000$ in reconstructive surgery and still cant walk right.

Vietnam is safe (when it comes to the people, theres plenty of scams but not violent crimes)... traffic is another story

>>83537334
>but you can easily die in a traffic accident.
most of the videos I've seen of people getting splattered by a truck on the road is Vietnam. especially since they rode a motorcycle

>>83527463
>35

>how do you feel about your dating prospects?
ive mostly given up and stopped caring, dating sites are a wasteland, most people are just trying to find hookups or someone to pay their bills

if i meet someone that clicks great, if not oh well

>What is your experience dating after the age of 30?
had a few relationships but most of them don't last very long, most recent schizo'd out and ghosted me over nothing and was in general pretty weird to my family when she met them

i was a bit of a man whore in my 20's so it's not like im super eager to get laid, just want some companionship and a regular healthy relationship desu (impossible)

>>83535329
>tfw black trans who needs a green card

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I have 150k in savings and absolutely nothing I'm looking forward to in life, in fact I don't think I ever wanted anything at all.
I'm considering giving my parents and my brother 50k each and pulling a Leaving Las Vegas with the rest.

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>>83537406
Cost of doing business and freedom

>>83537334
>I actually met a Turkish guy who had an accident when a stray dog ran infront of his scooter near Tam Coc

Reminds me of Two Arms and a Head, a brutal read.

Always a bit of low-key bragging in these threads these days. Why? Who the fuck knows?

>>83537988
>these days
lmao
Also >>83536241
sums it up. You either have nothing new to say, get no engagement or you do and get (you)s.

>>83527463
I'm quickly approaching 40 and my life was over about ten years ago. No dating prospects, disabled (on two forms of disability), single all my life, bald, neurodivergent, never fit in at any workplace, harassed by normies/Chad/Chad-likes, etc. I'm only alive now because my life is physically comfortable with a nest egg in savings from my previous jobs plus what I get in monthly disability payments. And I have to take care of my parents into their old age. I'll never kill myself because there's a few people who would like to see me to, so I'm living out of spite at this point as well. I accepted this is the life I'll have until I die for about 5 years now. What else can I do about it

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Honestly I think we'd all be doing better in the 00s if we were in our 30s then. Something about the last two decades have been bleak.

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2026. Happy New Year.
Somehow not original.

>>83531091
>she's obsessed with me
How obsessed are we talking?
Sounds like she could be amazing and also be your personal semen demon.
>I believe she's just going through a very protracted manic period
Have you not figured this out from her family/long term friends?

>>83537334
>She showed me some of her photos in her 20-30s she was a bombshell then too, but I almost preferred her old, she seemed so traveled and self assured. Had a legit crush on a woman almost twice my age me 29, her mid 50s.
fuck iktf

>>83538810
>Honestly I think we'd all be doing better in the 00s if we were in our 30s then. Something about the last two decades have been bleak.
True that. Every single fucking company owner I know is in their 50s and 60s. They had the ability back in the 1990s to start businesses way easier than today.

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Im 30 and I started dating a 28 year old virgin 3 months ago. Shes smelly and not very good looking but shes skinny, has no mental illnesses, and a great work ethic. Im very ugly, 5'7 and balding, so i believe we are looked matched. The narcissistic part of my brain wishes she was better looking but after dating a BPD monster before her i know how much worse it can be. Overall I have hope for the future but its on the edge of a lonely abyss

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>>83529602
I'm 33 and I've always tried to stay away from people as much as possible. I get mad in my car because there's too many people everyday. I hate dealing with other people's probleme at work. I get mad when I'm stuck behind an old woman at the grocery store. I get a text once every year and I get upset that someone is trying to get me to do things like they have control over my life or something. I went out once or twice and it was to try to get into fights. I'd need to go live in the country side or something.

I still get horny tho, and I think I should have kids and that's the only reason why I whish I had a gf. Even when I bring a hooker over I get mad when she's staying after I came.

>Do none of you work?
Curious about that.. Is there attractive people at your work or something? Is there more than 2 woman at your work? You must be working in an office I guess.

at the risk of sounding stupid guys how do you even find people to date or hang out with? i live with my parents, i cant imagine any scenario id have to talk to someone my age. is it all just at work or dating apps? only old people go to bars here

>>83539424
You basically don't, if you have to ask. Some people are extroverted and outgoing and charismatic, and they can move to a completely different city, heck a new country, and have a bigger circle of friends within a month than you and I ever had in school. But if you are none of those things and don't already have a circle of friends, it's basically over. Sometimes you get lucky meeting someone from work or from some club you're in who will introduce you to more people but it's rare, and gets rarer the older you get because people already have their friends and family and don't need more friends.
Depending on where you live, like in a big city, there are apps like Meetup that can actually help you quite a bit with meeting new people.

>>83537675
use it to do some good. im coming into money myself but i dont want anything. i got used to living frugally as a neet that i dont really want or need much. i really thought it would feel different

>>83539202
maybe shell grow into herself as you guys date and take better care of herself. hope it works out for you two.

>>83539424
This >>83539467. It's over.

>>83539424
>only old people go to bars here
Just how small of a place do you live in? Anyway, 1/2 my friends are 50. There's no reason to care about age gaps after like 24 or so.
> i cant imagine any scenario id have to talk to someone my age
Do you never do anything outside?

>>83539194
>They had the ability back in the 1990s to start businesses way easier than today.
There's that and you still had your own sub-cultural bubbles back then. Like WIZARDS had it better back then, you had your own hobbies, your own craft you could hone, your own people, your own space to yourself and others like you where you could exist. Now all those spaces are occupied by dudebros and e-whores or have the threat of that as soon as it looks remotely ripe for collecting social media points.

>>83527463
>how do I feel about my dating prospects
Grim. I am working on talking to girls irl but I am overworked ans I have a narrow interest. I made a post on /soc/ to improve to no avail

>experience in dating over 30
2024 is when I had 2 dates ans both failed. Hinge was better and bumble straight up screwed me over
I'm half tempted to use chyrpe

>>83527463
I will never like anyone as much as my high school crush, but it doesn't matter because I learned al women are bitches and whores anyway.

>>83539424
Same boat nigga, the county I live in has the second-highest average age of any in Ontario, and I can't afford to move

When you live out in the country it's impossible to find fellow nerdy autist types

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Looks like I'll probably make it to 50.
Life's alright, being retired is nice, can't complain regarding women.

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Romantic drama hurts me so much when it appears in media that it makes me drop it immediately.

I was always like this though. I'm really sensitive.

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>>83527463
At 28 I broke up with my long time girlfriend (7 years). It was a hard break-up and I wasn't interested in dating.

I spent about 2 years on myself, building a business and self-improvement. I've always been slim and athletic, but I started to develop genetic hair loss at around 25, which affected my self-confidence.

At 32 I decided to go back to university to study (another degree). I started dating again, but really struggled. Bumble, Tinder, and all the other dating apps didn't get me anywhere. Not even a date. My face and body looked early 20s, but my hairline made me look 40. I was also picky and didn't really know what I wanted, so I started an experiment. The rule was, I had to ask a girl out every day. I did this for about 3 months to moderate success and giving me a clearer picture of what I was looking for in a partner.

I met a Chinese girl who was 24, and we started dating. It's now 6 years later and we live together. The relationship is not perfect, but it's comfortable and she is a good woman with a PhD, loyal, loving and intelligent. Also helps she is a tomboy.

She is not the type of person I ever planned on staying together with, but I realised that if I continued to chase 'perfection', I would never find someone.

It can be hard after 30, but I recommend taking a year or two to work on yourself; health, fitness, finances, style and something to offer. It's perfectly reasonable to go after younger women, because you need some lead time before her turning 35 to have healthy children. I found girls under 22 to be too immature, and after 30 to be too risky. You need time to understand the person and judge whether the relationship will work in the long term, which will take a few years.

This is my experience, mileage may vary.

Been at my first fulltime job for almost 100 days. I felt extra depressed tonight but then I remembered this fulltime job at wally world rapes the spotty hours fastfood cashier cuckjob I had.

>be me
>38
>kissless virgin
I stopped trying years ago.

>>83540984
I lost it at 30 at the AMP. Fuck being a kissless virgin. I still salute you as long as you don't get in the way of my happy endings.

I'm a virgin and it doesn't feel worth it to even try to fix it. There are no attractive single women my age

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I swear I better not see you all here in 365 days complaining about the same shit

>>83527463
Its over
Just beat off. In 2026 its only gonna get worse womens standards keep climbing lmaoo

>>83541612
People who say that normally bring shovels to limbo competitions.

im currently experiencing immense physical pain brought on by my mental pain and the culmination of decades of not taking care of myself
nothing i can really do at the moment im in but exist through it. if it doesn't die down by the end of today i'll need to go to the hospital and even with medicaid i might need to get money from my parents.

>>83537675
>>83539490
im living NEET but with my mom
if I came into that money I'd take care of my health then get a place to live and a car and after that I think I'd finally be able to start learning again. If I was financially independent I would be able to actually learn unity or godot. I've gotten like 20 hours into both and I can't fucking focus. I need to get other shit in my life fixed. I know I have creative stuff in me but I just wanna fucking explode when I imagine trying to interact with the world in some profit-generating way. I wish I could just create and the world gives me enough to live.

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>>83527463

40/m

Had one brief gf at 28.

Since I turned 30, had maybe 8ish dates? Only one led to a third date. Most were one and done. No matter how I try to improve conversation it usually doesn't go well.

I'm trying to be hopeful, but idk. I have a decent job. I'm somewhat fit. I'm trying (and I want to) hit those points at to where a 40 year old should be.

I'm going very grey though. Silver fox? Eh, I'm 5'7 and 160lbs, I don't think I'm what people imagine as a silver fox lol.

I guess I don't have hopeful prospects, but it's nice to dream.

>>83527463
I just fuck prostitutes. Dating is too much trouble. If I didn't date in my 20s and just fucked prostitutes I would have been filthy rich. Nothing is worse that dating a bitch who wastes your time and money.

>>83527463
I'll let you know in 2 years. Grim prospect though.
And while I'm used to being alone at this point I think my parents are getting worried if they're going to ever have grandkids- I do want kids eventually but the longer it gets the older they'll be. E.g if I had kids at 35 they'd be around 70.

I actually think I should care less about sex even though I've given up entirely. The messiah was a vgin after all.

>>83527463
I wouldn't know, I gave up on dating after getting dumped around 18. I have no interest in trying again though. I consider myself to be a romantic, and my idea of romance involves being young, which I no longer am.

>>83527463
Easier than ever. The older I get, the more pretty teenagers want me. I went a lil nuts and fucked way too many girls over like a year or so, so I had to tone it down. Married now, though.

>>83529602
Retard meets his first 80/20 discussion
Ask about 'situationships'
I work. Too busy to chatter freely and if I ever have free time I spend it unwinding with a phone game for 10 minutes. I go home on the train. Nobody talks there (I have thought about it in my head to start random conversations, but we know how cold approaching tends to work and most people do NOT have to do this)
I get home, unwind with my secular hobbies, repeat
Weekends I recover
Sometimes I go out to get necessities and buy stuff
Am I going to hit on cashiers? Again, cold approaching

Is it my fault that my job does not have me talking to many women or that I do not have enough time/desire to spend 2 hours yapping? Partially, I guess. Already hard enough to find one job.

Is it my fault for not making the proper connections in high school?
Again, partially. We're all still learning in high school and some of us got the short end of the stick physiologically or mentally until we learned. By that point (Now) it's too late.

But yes, we are not the most outgoing performance artists and we don't have a reserve of confidence built from small successes one after the other
We're people who've had very few successes and mostly failures, which would be most people in the world I assume.

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>>83541821

And you're posting on r9k why?

>>83540678
>I started an experiment. The rule was, I had to ask a girl out every day.
I would like to experiment with this if only I had the confidence. But I thought women also don't like indecisiveness, so anything feigned will quickly crumble. It's because I don't know if I even want anyone. Maybe I just want to try chasing, without losing my wizard status. Just the chase I want to experience. I'm too weird.

>>83541828
OP literally asked??

>>83529827
>EE girls
I recommend you don't go this route. Not only are they whore but they are wallet drainers. Find a normal latinx or Chinese girl who is financially responsible

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I haven't had dating prospects ever I feel like, my only boyfriend ever was married. Kind of just a dumb worthless whore if I'm being 100% that's how you get to mid 30s while being a woman without the major dealbreakers. by being a dumb fucking whore who falls in love with men you shouldn't

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>>83541836

Yes, literally, but you should know the context of the board.

You're just posting to brag.

>>83533419
I think a big part of your change was the fact that you HAD it to begin with, in high school, with 4 different girls
And just by completing that checkpoint you could let it go after clicking that it's not worth the effort
Likely got it effortlessly in high school

It's really not possible for people who've never had it to stop chasing it, so this advice always tends to come from those who have sown their seed.

>>83541866
Are you the femanon that got knocked up by a married man twice?

>>83541780
>Silver fox? Eh, I'm 5'7 and 160lbs, I don't think I'm what people imagine as a silver fox lol.
Someone who's traveled, has potentially an ex wife and has a lot of disposable income

>>83541886
No man would love me enough to have a kid with me

>>83529602
I think I'm more the exception than the rule when it comes to this but I have pretty much no interest in socializing irl. I've never been a people person growing up and that never changed for me. I had friends and acquaintances but I had no trouble cutting them all loose when I decided I'd rather just be a social recluse. I still consider it to have been a very good choice and my life has been very peaceful, so much so that I never felt the need to change my social situation even after 15 years.

Then again, maybe I'm not the exception I once was, and there are more men these days who simply can't be bothered anymore.

>>83541872
>op asks
>answer
>y-you're bragging
Get your head out of the gutter

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>>83541876

Exactly. Most of us Robots have had no opposite sex contact for our teens, 20s, and 30+

'Normies' have contact. we're 'Robots'

I guess I get that it's hard to grasp that most of us on this board aren't like you. Most of us never even had the opportunity in high school.

>>83541897
What do you think makes you so unloveable?

>>83541913

Do you even know what context is?

>>83541922
Yep. Any other questions regarding the topic of the thread or my situation?

>>83541826
>I work. Too busy to chatter freely
Are you doing a neurosurgical training program? Are you a petroleum engineer or deep sea welder or some shit?
No one is that busy you're making excuses.
> Weekends I recover
Unless you're making huge amounts of income or actually powering through a high level career path you've lied or seriously fucked up

>>83541893

That's not me haha. I do have some disposable income but no ex wife and haven't traveled much,

>>83541918
I have just always felt like there was something wrong with me that makes me not quite a person. Like I'm a robot or a mannequin or something pretending to be a person

>>83536939
Don't betray her, asshole. Don't sniff around on the other side getting greedy for more. You're like a woman who has someone thinking she can do better. Fuck you. Loyalty should be rewarded in this world; you have a ride or die.

>>83541925

I'll go back to my original question. You're posting on r9k why?

>>83541932
>That's not me haha. I do have some disposable income but no ex wife and haven't traveled much,
What I was trying to hint at is that the original idea that women like older guys is because they have had a life of interesting experiences and have knowledge that only comes from living a full life.

>>83541958

I know that. I was trying to say that I'm not that.

>>83541916
I remember dreaming about one day hugging a girl in middle school. That was way back when I didn't know how hopeless things were so some part of my mind still thought that was possible to experience. Normalfags really don't understand how much this stuff messes with your head when things that are normal everyday things for everyone else are impossible dreams for you.

>>83541930
Nope. I'm just below or dead average and don't have that amount of energy to socialize while I have to constantly do something at work to hit monthly targets. I'm not the fastest worker, I barely get by. And when I do manage to have things done and setup up early, the last thing I think of is going out hunting for a girl in another department to think of some conversation to have.
It also doesn't help that there's always some sort of 'twist' that sets me back where I have other tasks to deal with (paperwork, a unit malfunctioning requiring me to go through a process to push it to QA, etc)

On the weekends I recover bit:
I'm very annoyed on weekdays due to having to work and transit to it, and do chores/task at home. On weekends I have free time where I don't have to stress, so I play videogames.
Socializing and hunting for women is part of that stress.

Is it all my fault that I don't have the capability or energy to do more? I have my limits and I can't get past them. It's really that simple, but it won't stop me from taking some time here to wax off about it. Life is shitty for a lot of people and having an outlet is the least one can get.


tl;dr:
'You should always be doing more'
I can't. Seems I'm not the only one and that number is growing.

>>83541934
Took the words right out of my robot mouth

>>83542005
Does it ever feel like you've done something wrong and everybody knows what you did except for you? That has been a big part of my entire life too

>>83542014
Used to get that feeling in younger years, now I mostly just don't do or say things when I'm around people in a social setting to lower the risk of ostracizing myself.

>>83541941
Because it's entertaining to chat with anons about this and that. Are you dense?

>>83542037

Are you dense? This is a board where the majority of people have never even felt the touch of the opposite sex. Saying you fucked too many girls is insensitive in the CONTEXT of the board.

>>83542054
You're exaggerating so much you just look silly. Need any advice?

>>83542066

LOL at your non response, wtf does that even mean.

>>83542072
I think he's just a confused newfag

>>83542054
>Upset that someone is being insensitive on 4chan
bruh
>>83541999
Checked.
>I can't. Seems I'm not the only one and that number is growing.
Everyone has their cross to bear but if you're that ruined after a shit job you need to look elsewhere asap. If you're not exercising, doing hobbies and at least free to be social something is wrong (again assuming you're not working 100h weeks, have a baby/person to care for)

>>83542075

could say the same for you.

complete this oldfag phrase in a minute: itty bitty _____