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Once you're fat, you're fat. There's no recovering from that. The damage to your bones is done, the damage to your muscles is done, the damage to your skin, heart, veins, brain, metabolism, joints and spine is done. That's all irreversible. There's no point in "getting in shape" because that's impossible. You either stay in shape or lose weight but stay just as unhealthy as you were when you were thrice as heavy. I almost feel bad for fatties. Almost.
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so you accumulated debt
you pay it down its still there but not as big a burden
or it spirals out of control
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>>83594180
Wait until you hear about this thing called Ozempic
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>>83594180
You don't know anything at all about health
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>>83594180
Try a Whole Food Plant Based diet. It'll even clear your arteries!
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>>83594418
Why does that dress fit so badly?
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>>83594437
>t. Fatty who gave his life away
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>>83594418
She looked better on the left. She's got "fat" bone structure witchy moonface which suits a woman with some meat on the bones better than a clothing model type body.
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>>83595030
How the fuck did being fat damage your bones, brain, skin, and muscles beyond all repair? Most fat dudes i know have more muscle than i do even though they never work out and im at the gym 3x/week
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>>83594180
Fatties can lose the weight plenty of examples to show it's possible but the loose skin is what grosses me out. Even see "fitness bros" online that look good but they can pull their skin like rubber makes me cringe I can't imagine having to live with that and it's going to mega sag when they get old. Childhood obesity is child abuse it's awful parents let their kids get fat at all. My parents are retard boomers but atleast they aren't fat pigs thank god for that.
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and no one said tooning out wasn't a legitimate strategy
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>>83594180
You say that and yet I've lost the weight, my bones are nice and strong from dealing with the weight so they've never cracked or broken, etc.
You should get a better hobby than spewing defeatist bullshit on here so your discord egf can see it and justify staying fat.
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>>83595105
>How the fuck did being fat damage your bones,
Cartilage doesn't repair. Obesity blows out your ankles, knees, hips and lower spine faster than being normal.
>brain,
Important parts of the brain being suffocated due to clogged arteries + ironically malnutrition due to fatties usually only eating pizza and bacon.
>skin,
Stretch marks don't go away. Loose skin once loose is always loose.
>and muscles beyond all repair?
Similar to skin. Visceral fat causes fibromuscular dysplasia and destroys muscle tissue. Also causes cancer.

Basically if you're fat, it's over and you need to kill yourself. Recovery is impossible.
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>>83594418
She looks unhealthy on the right. Most Women genuinely look better with meat on their bones.
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>>83595165
Congratulations on the weight loss but it was all pointless. You are still gonna die earlier than you would've had you not destroyed your body with unmitigated hedonism. Hopefully you won't do that again in the next life and it will be longer as a result.
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>>83595165
>my bones are nice and strong
(X) Doubt

all that chronic stress has weakened them, not strengthened them. you are now at higher risk for fracture or osteoarthritis than ever before, no matter what.
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>>83594180
I've been obese since I was 7. how fucked am i
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>>83596228
>obese 7

o7 good luck soldier
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>>83596228
It's 1000% over. Your hormones are fucked and your metabolism is permanently shot. You're likely to develop type 2 diabetes before age 40, and you will struggle to control your sugar, losing a finger or limb as a result. You may also lose your vision.
The sheer extent of the damage cannot be overstated. You need to sue your parents.
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>>83596228
How bad is it? What's your height and weight?
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>>83596251
>You need to sue your parents.
This but make sure you hire a Jewish lawyer
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>>83594180
It's strange that we successfully campaigned so hard against smoking but let the obesity problem skyrocket out of control. Obesity is so much more damaging to the body. More than half of the US is considered morbidly obese; in 2005 it was a third and in 1995 it was a fifth. We did nothing to stop that, and it was way easier to combat than smoking was. All we had to do was teach people about calories and discourage them from going to McDonald's every day for every meal. This useless fucking country.
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>>83596339
Bros... is workcamps for the obese the actual solution?
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>>83596650
The solution is walkable cities. Walk everywhere and ride a bike when you can. Start building like Japan or the Netherlands. Also we need to be a lot meaner to the food industry but the main thing is building towns in a way that is as hostile to driving as possible and forces you to get off your ass and WALK.
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>>83596650
the solution is relentlessly cruel and vicious bullying
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>>83594180
Hi OP I lost 150 pounds and got down to 22 bmi in the two years and I've been working out and have visible muscle for the first time in my life. Sure I'm covered in stretch marks but I feel a lot better. I don't really care that I did a lot of other damage that couldn't be fixed.
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>>83597108
>sure I some crack cocaine for 30 years but I stopped 2 years ago and I FEEL better which means smoking crack is harmless as long as you stop :^)
Depressing post anon.
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>>83597283
But that's not what he said at all. It sounds more like YOU are the one desperate to cope because you're a fat disgusting slob and you're projecting your hate of fat people (yourself).
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>>83597283
>some crack
smoked crack*
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>>83597323
Being fat is every bit as bad as smoking crack and the fact that he stopped does not at all negate the fact that he did it in the first place, and that fact cannot be overlooked.
At no point did I say I hate fatties. In fact I said I almost feel sorry for them. But facts are facts. It's a lot more dangerous than we make it out to be. You're not "fluffy," you're morbidly obese and actively killing yourself.
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>>83597354
>does not at all negate the fact that he did it in the first place, and that fact cannot be overlooked.
But he didn't say that. YOU decided that's what he was saying but that isn't what was said at all HOWEVER.
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>>83597283
I actually only became obese for 2.5 years in my mid 20s. I wasn't a childhood obesity case
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>>83594180
got hella strong calves though
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>>83597368
If you can lose 150lbs and not die, you were fat before you lost that weight, which means the damage was already done.
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>>83597386
Please refer to >>83594180. Once fat, always fat.
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>>83594180
So I should keep getting fatter! I plan to, anon, don't worry. 350 is rookie numbers, I'm hoping to double it.
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Hahaha holy fuck do you retards do anything except try to intellectualize your passivity in your own life? Genuinely hilarious, stay being a crab
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>>83596163
>bones
Don't break your bones before you lose weight then? Generally not a high bar to clear.
>brain
Eat better and the brain begins healing. Unless you're in your 50s and you've been drinking nothing but vegetable oil. In which case, being fat didn't cause your alzheimer's, eating cartoonishly poorly did.
>skin
Literally wrong. Women get stretchmarks from pregnancy all the time. Go buy vitamin E lotions or oils and rub them in. It's called skincare, lazy tool.
>muscles
If you get past 400 pounds without any muscle to compensate, you're literally already bedbound. Every fat person who functions in society on some level has muscles. Losing the fat means they have all that muscle and lost their metaphorical inhibitor rings.
>cancer mid-point because you had nothing and needed to sound right
Dumbass. The sun gives you cancer. Bananas give you cancer. Water can poison you.

You lead a life of enormous risk if you do anything at all outside of your home. Being paralyzed into inaction is not a productive response. If you're fat as fuck and don't like how it feels, hit the gym and make salad dinners. If you do like how it feels, then just enjoy the life you have understanding that without working hard to regulate your body, your life will be shorter. Life isn't about living 110 years and being le optimal machine. You wanna live 50 to 60 years as a fatass, go for it. Most of the space robots here plan to kill themselves by age 40 and have zero room to judge.
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>>83598224
Fat faggot cope.

>>83598239
>Don't break your bones before you lose weight then? Generally not a high bar to clear.
If not breaking your bones was as easy as consciously choosing not to do it, nobody would ever break their bones. Fatties break their bones all the time without even knowing it because the weight alone introduces microfractures when they do high impact things like walk. This weakens the bones over time. Shocker: being fat is bad for you.
>Eat better and the brain begins healing.
Actually no. A lot of the damage from being an high calorie human for extended periods is permanent. All the healthy eating in the world won't revive dead synapses.
>being fat didn't cause your alzheimer's, eating cartoonishly poorly did.
How do you think fatties get that way in the first place anon? By eating mostly veggies?
>Women get stretchmarks from pregnancy all the time.
Yeah, and those don't go away. Best you can do is hide them cosmetically, but stretch marks are more than just cosmetic. They are weak spots in the skin more prone to rupture, and they are permanent.
>Go buy vitamin E lotions or oils and rub them in.
Snake oil. Doesn't do anything. You're fucked.
>If you get past 400 pounds [...] you're literally already bedbound.
Which is exactly why so many people at that weight ARE bedridden.
>Every fat person [...] has muscles.
Every living person capable of movement has muscles. Doesn't mean they aren't damaged at all.
>Losing the fat means they have all that muscle
But the damage is still done. I'm not saying they have no muscle whatsoever retard, that would literally be anatomically impossible.
>Dumbass. The sun gives you cancer.
Oh OK then I guess there's no such thing as unnecessary carcinogenic risk and we should all start taking uranium pills just cause. I mean, standing in the sun for several hours on end without protection gives you cancer, so, might as well just take the shielding off your microwave right? Nothing *burp* matters, Morty.
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>>83598156
Whatever suicide method you choose is fine by me. It's over either way.
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>>83598239
>You lead a life of enormous risk if you do anything at all outside of your home.
Yes, but that doesn't mean you should just take on more unnecessary risk because you can. Existing is risky enough.
>Being paralyzed into inaction is not a productive response.
Trying to get into shape after becoming a fatass is like trying to save your house after it's been razed to a pile of ash. Your house is already burned, you can put a tent up where your house once stood but the house is gone. There's nothing left to do.
>If you're fat as fuck and don't like how it feels, hit the gym and make salad dinners.
Pointless. The only action left is either suicide or nothing. Anything else is like polishing a turd.
>If you do like how it feels, then just enjoy the life you have understanding that without working hard to regulate your body, your life will be shorter.
Or just don't let yourself get out of shape to begin with and you won't have to deal with either of those shitty options. I don't understand how this is so hard for people to comprehend.
>Life isn't about living 110 years and being le optimal machine.
That is very literally what the processes of evolution and natural selection are all about, you teenage nihilist redditor fuck.
>You wanna live 50 to 60 years as a fatass, go for it.
At that point you might as well just kys and get it over with. Dying slowly under the weight of your own lard is a worse demise.
>Most of the space robots here plan to kill themselves by age 40 and have zero room to judge.
And I have no problem with that, but I do have a problem with hamplanets who try to justify it as a normal and healthy thing.
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>>83599143
I don't try to justify it. I got fat, I worked out and fixed my diet and lost the weight. what other choice does someone who gets fat have? You take what you can from a grim situation.
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>>83598224
are you new to /r9k/
did you think that attitude towards women wouldn't carry over to other aspects of life?
reddit has more pee-pee poo-poo tendies stories if you're looking for those
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One of the greatest weightloss blackpills is that it does not restore penis size if you lose weight.

Losing a single percent of weight does not bring back the missed years. You will never get to experience teenage love. You will never become a normie, you will never become a chad.

There has also been very, very disturbing rumors that going to the gym does not guarantee a gf at all, at least in the western world.
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>>83599615
You're in that situation regardless. You shouldn't have let yourself get fat in the first place. Losing the weight was useless from a health standpoint, nearly every organ in your body has been damaged. Losing the weight AFTER you put it on is like trying to extinguish a fire that has already long died out and taken your home with it.
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>>83599718
Not everyone has a choice in that due to shitty-fatty parenting in childhood.
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it's amusing how black and white the thinking of space robots is. Like thinking 400 pounds = 600 pounds, all fat people drink is soda, all they eat is fried food, stretchmarks = joever for you, evolution demands us to live optimally and for as long as humanly possible. All silly statements.

Getting obese comes from primarily disordered eating, excess calories, not from guzzling fryer oil. You gain weight from eating more than you burn, which can be as simple as adding a chocolate bar or two to your lunch or having a cocktail after work. Fat people aren't gaining tens of pounds a month here, it's years of small extras that aren't balanced out by exercising more or eating less later. As you grow your caloric needs increase and so does your appetite, so people unconsciously increase portioning to sate that appetite. The stuff people associate with hamplanets are not nearly as calorically dense as people think. A family sized bag of chips is only like 900 calories, and a two liter of soda is something like 600. Gaining substantial weight off of that is nigh impossible unless you have insane capacity.

And just because I'm feeling extra petty: evolution isn't about living forever you fucking retard, if there is any end goal it's adapting to your environment and passing on your genes. So anon, where are your kids? Are you, GASP, failing the evolutionary imperative???
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>>83596936
>walkable cities

So i can be robbed by n*ggers as i struggle to carry my shopping bags, FUCK OFF
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>>83599821
stay in your room and rot then :))))
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>>83597323
>But that's not what he said at all.
Im too fat to hear properly, it was what he said in my mind
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>>83594180
There are many fatties who became ripped chads after some work
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>>83594180
>Once you're fat, you're fat. There's no recovering from that.
bars
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I eat my cinnamon rolls with pride and joy knowing I make the choice to be a fatass and don't delude myself with gayass copes like "ThErEs No PoInT iN gEtTiNg In ShApE bEcAuSe ThAtS iMpOsSiBlE :(((((" and just enjoy my short life the way I see fit.
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>>83599828
Or we can build better infrastructure for cars, you fucking cuck
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>>83599924
Oh, I'm the cuck, for not accepting reality and continuing regardless? And not the person who uses his lack of confidence around blacks as an excuse to never walk?
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>>83596339
Many Chinese kids aspire to be astronauts when they grow up, while American kids aspire to be shitty YouTubers and Tiktok and Instagram e-celebs.
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>>83599986
I've never heard this before. Thank you for this very valued point of view on obesity.
Seriously are all you people bots? Do you engage every "smartphones are actually making us less connected" thought you have in this manner? How do you solve captchas?
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>>83599955
I didnt say blacks, i said n*ggers you racist piece of shit.

N*ggers come in every color. And walkable cities just makes it easier to be robbed and much tougher to carry shopping, especially for disabled or the elderly.

Its ANTI HUMAN and im sick of neoliberal anti humanism
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>>83600124
It's also anti american and small minded- literally, the whole "walkable city" meme spawned from eurocucks that live in countries the size of a postage stamp. They can't conceive of a 45 minute round trip just to go to the grocery store the enormity of the usa is just too much for their brains to handle
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>>83600124
lmfao, you heard it here folks: being able to travel the village on foot is equivalent to being anti-human.
>>83600135
>I WANT to waste gas on my trip to the grocery store!!!
You do you boo, but I've lived in nowheresville USA before, where the nearest grocery store is literally 90 minutes away by car. Shit wasn't fun. My grandpa had to own three freezers and two fridges just so he wouldn't be going out to La Pine or Bend every month. I'd prefer NOT to have to deal with that. Crazy, I know.
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>>83600124
Anon in these parts we call them niggers
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>>83595040
uh, the left pic is also an "after" picture bro..
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If I lose weight, society owes me a gf.

If I can't get that gf I am owed, then there is no point losing weight.
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>>83600256
You are genuinely low iq. That's how it is when there is so. much. space. That's just a fact of rural living, the solution is to create better highway infrastructure not waste money on walkable shit for low population rural areas
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>>83596187
she looks the same, retard
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>>83600124
Unbelievably based, they are literally coping in the replies.
Remove niggers from cities and whites will move back in

Until then you get what you deserve
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>>83600301
Glasses, now.
>>83600296
Where will the highways go? The shortest possible route is around a mountain range and through a forest. Sure we can bulldoze the forest but what about the mountains? Just dig through them? Not gonna happen for a long time even if we start demolitions today.
You're the guy who's advocating people spend half their shopping time on the commute, when better options exist and work just fine.
>b-b-b-but muh niggers!
And? Pack some damn heat and quit crying. Mass deportation's not gonna save you in the post-airplane world. Pandora's box is open and you'd best get used to it. Every few generations something happens like this. Native American conflicts and scalpings, war with Mexico, mass refugee migration. Instead of trying to deport half the people in your borders you should instead carry a snubby and be prepared for criminal activity. These politicians ain't savin' you bitchboy.
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>>83599108
I am taller, stronger and leaner than you
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Bullshit. In 2 years I went from 75kg to 111kg. Then in the next 2 years I went from 111kg to 68kg. 0 loose skin.
Fasting and lifting does wonders.
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>>83594418
she's done for. and there are so many health problems that are coming out for people that have taken Ozempic. people going blind and shit, it's just the beginning.

too lazy and retarded to put in the real effort. that's what she gets, fucken bitch.
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>>83600493
what's your height? original
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>>83600505
exactly 172cm. so like 5'7? 5'8? in american scale
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>>83594180
once they get to like 350lbs they might as well just try to get as ludicrously fat as possible
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>>83600903
>literally me
Kinda like it too
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>>83600903
Hot.
>>83601066
Based.
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>>83601123
I wanna get huge too, like 600 pound life huge
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>>83601277
Fatfags rise up (and sit back down winded and a little clammy from the effort)?
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>>83601293
That pic is literally goals.
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>>83596251
This is such a stupid and misinformed take lmao.
It's true that getting fat will affect your metabolism to an extent, but if you start eating more healthy and exercising, after a while the metabolism and hormones will recover.
Similarly, if you are now pre-diabetic due to being fat, you can absolutely get out of the range by losing weight and living healthy, in which the chance of getting type 2 is marginally increased.
Furthermore, even if you do get type 2, there are well-researched and easy to get treatments that control sugar levels and you only lose a finger or vision if you are an idiot and you aren't controlling your diabetes via medication for a long time. But if that happens, that's just the person being an idiot.
So, yeah, everyone else, don't be discouraged, do your best to improve your lifestyle and lose weight and you will be just fine.
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>>83599718
Anon never went to the doctor. If things were as you are saying, no doctor ever would recommend losing weight (since it is 'useless' but causes a lot of mental anguish often so it would be a net negative). And yet all doctors will recommend weight loss if you are fat. By your logic, being fat for a month means you are basically dead lmao. Damages can happen, but only if you are a 600 pound fatass for 30 years. If you have like BMI aroudn 30 and are in 20s or 30s, you absolutely can lose weight and have pretty much the same health outcomes as someone who wasn't fat. This is supported by research but I guess you are smarted than every doctor and scientist in existence.
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Studies of 'obesity resolved by adulthood' generally show:
> Higher life expectancy than people who stay obese
> Slightly lower life expectancy than people who were always at a healthy weight
However, the gap can shrink dramatically if weight is lost and other lifestyle factors (smoking, fitness, diet) are good.

If someone:
>reaches a healthy weight by late 20s
>maintains it long-term
>stays physically active
>eats a balanced diet
>avoids smoking
...their risk can come very close to someone who was always at a healthy weight, especially for:
>cardiovascular outcomes
>metabolic health
>overall mortality
Many earlier disadvantages become clinically negligible.
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Woe is me, I'll never be slim, whatever shall I do! Perhaps a twinkie wiener sandwich would hit the spot~
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I simply cannot control myself! Resignation is the only rational choice, and a few more pounds wouldn't hurt...
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Eat~ Eat~ Eat~
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>>83599768
So sue your parents.

>>83599782
Do you really think there's a practical difference between 400 and 600 pounds? Both are morbid obesity to the extent of debilitation and permanent damage; after a certain point there's no meaningful difference. And fat people do get fat from disordered eating, the caloric excess comes from eating unhealthy shit and lots of it. So yeah if you look at a fatty's fridge you're gonna find a lot of soda and sugar and fried shit. Because they're fatties; they fundamentally do not eat well. "Oh I'm just 500 lbs because, erm, muh genes" give me a fucking break.
It's the epitome of retardation to imply that obesity has any level of compatibility with the direction of human evolution so far. Potentially the dumbest thing I've ever seen posted on this board.
Sure, I don't have kids, but that's fine because I'm young. Younger than my mother was when she had me. Not having kids is nowhere near as bad evolutionarily as being a lardass.

>>83599821
Lol. Yeah it's virtually impossible to be robbed in a car. It's not like people specifically target drivers trapped in their cars in traffic or drive thrus as their victims. Lmao.
Also, use a cart or a wagon or some shit faggot.

>>83599840
No. They become weird freaks with awkward fat distribution and loose skin. Their bodies look like chewed up wads of bubble gum and they're no more healthy than they were before.

>>83599881
I'm glad I never got fat like you. See you in twenty ye-- oh wait. You'll be dead.

>>83599924
Allowing yourself to be forced to buy a car you don't actually want or need or else not be able to survive in the town you live in because Ford Motor Company decided the should use their influence to design your town to fundamentally work against you is the HEIGHT of cuckery.
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>>83600124
>not being able to function without an expensive dangerous machine that eats up half your paycheck is pro-human actually
Laughable.

>>83600452
You'd also take longer than me to reach the ground after jumping off a building if you spread your arms wide enough because you have the loose skin of a flying squirrel, or perhaps a sugar glider. You fat sack of shit. You human parachute.

>>83600493
Delusional. Sorry about your arteries anon.

>>83601413
Look at everyone who has ever competed on The Biggest Loser. They are all fucked. Their metabolism is shot regardless of their current weight because they were all fatties at some point. Do some research.
Destroy your body and your bod is destroyed. There's no recovering. The only thing left for you to do is either stay fat or kill yourself. Everything else is cope.

>>83601485
Doctors are going to tell you to do whatever makes them the most money. This isn't surprising; medical professionals are really just drug salesmen. You're more likely to injure yourself working out as a fatty, so of course they'd tell you to do that.
>If you have like BMI aroudn 30 and are in 20s or 30s, you absolutely can lose weight and have pretty much the same health outcomes as someone who wasn't fat.
Hilarious, I needed a laugh. Thanks anon.

>>83601499
Me when I lie on the internet for fun.
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>>83602095
Genuinely disgusting, traumatizing images. Worse than tubgirl.
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>>83603190
>The Biggest Loser
ah yes, the show that everyone in the medical community agree was unhealthy and borderline abusive to contestants. Because weight loss needs to be controlled and not like 50 kg in a month. It's why I emphasise sustainable weight loss by changing your habits.

>whatever makes them the most money
too bad I live in Europe where they make the same money irregardless of if I get a drug (which btw they caution against in general) or need to visit them more if I exercise (they generally recommend to start with low-intensity exercise precisely due to injury prevention).
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>>83603190
>Me when I lie on the internet for fun.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2769426?
> "In this combined, repeated cross-sectional analysis of a nationally representative cohort of 24 205 US adults followed up for a mean of 10.7 years, participants who lost weight from an obese body mass index in early adulthood to overweight in midlife had a 54% reduction in mortality risk relative to those who maintained an obese body mass index. (...)"

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8159734/
> "Assuming a BMI of 40kg/m2 before weight loss, this resulted in risk reductions for T2D (41%), sleep apnoea (40%), hypertension (22%), dyslipidaemia (19%) and asthma (18%). Furthermore, weight loss was associated with additional benefits, with lower risk of T2D, chronic kidney disease, hypertension and dyslipidaemia compared with maintaining the corresponding stable lower BMI throughout the study."

https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.06140
> "(...) We also found significant improvement in brain health, indicated by a decrease of 2.9 and 5.6 years in adjusted delta age at 12 and 24 months following bariatric surgery compared to baseline (p<0.0005)."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14746573/
> "Results show that those with diabetes who lost weight intentionally significantly reduced their mortality risks by 25%. Additionally, weight loss of 9-13 kg was most protective. Patients with the risk of developing diabetes due to either family history of diabetes or impaired glucose tolerance, saw a reduction in this risk. Those with large weight losses achievable with surgical interventions reduced their risk by at least 63%. Metabolic handling of glucose improved in 80% of those already with type 2 diabetes who lost weight."
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>>83603296
Thanks for bringing receipts but you ought to know by now that no study is going to change the mind of retards who think breaking their jaw and getting cheek implants is the only way to get a gf.
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>>83603202
>Mommy, mommy, the bad man in the magic box gave me trauma!!!
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So traumatic, oh how will I ever recover?
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>>83603737
The thing with fat people is that they may look cute in cutesy art like this, but in reality almost all of the look disgusting and off-putting. Their face gets all fat, they get more chins and eventually you can't even see their neck (unlike all the art where they draw them with a face of a BMI 20 person),
Honestly, for some reason I just feel a lot of pity when I see images like that.
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>>83603792
I still like fatties irl. I am both becoming one and dating one.
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The two sides to not being a baby back bitch about fat:
>your life isn't over, if your fat makes you unhappy then fuckin lose it
>your life isn't over, if your fat makes you happy then enjoy it
OP's whining will always be fag shit
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>>83603802
My advise would be to try and keep healthy by not being fate and encouraging your partner to do the same, but I guess one's fetishes are stronger than self-preservations so good luck anon
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>>83603296
>that's not true! that's not true!! look at what dr. shekelstein says! if you buy his snake oil pills for over $3000 per bottle you can reverse time!!!!! it's never too late!
This is getting pathetic.

>>83603591
>receipts
>look inside
>literally just a bunch of made up nonsense with no actual scientific basis in reality

>>83603650
>>83603737
>>83603802
>>83603822
It's not surprising that fat acceptance faggots are really just degenerates who want to spread their degeneracy.
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>>83603876
Long before I hit puberty, long before any kids' show could have 'corrupted' me, I wanted to be fat. I do and will continue to keep from doing anything crazy like becoming diabetic, but I am not one to cry over a few lost years. I'd rather live a short life in a body I love than a ling life in a body I dislike. Shrimple as that.
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>>83603899
lmao I called it. Nothing will ever please an /r9k/ user but blind agreement that everything sucks and there's nothing that can be done about it. In their mind, getting a gf is impossible, so people who succeed must be cheating. Losing weight is impossible, so anyone who does lose weight is cheating, lying, or a psyop. Liking things he doesn't like is impossible, so anything he doesn't like is degenerate.

Go get diagnosed already, your autism is deafening.
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>>83603899
>losing weight is ackshully snake oil salesmanship
>what is the doctor selling? Um...he's just selling, okay???
You will never be happy anon. Consider suicide.
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>>83603899
>if you buy his snake oil pills for over $3000 per bottle you can reverse time!!!
except none of the articles mentioned advocated for any kind of pills. Just sustainable eating. If anything eating less, will give less money to the Jews since you buy less food. The only thing they did mention was bariatric surgery, but if you are very fat, that is usually free in most of the developed world.
>literally just a bunch of made up nonsense with no actual scientific basis in reality
medical studies done of 10000s of people - > 'no actual scientific basis'. Jesus, I didn't know people could be this retarded. But please, do at least try and provide a proof for the claims you have been making this whole thread. I did so for mine.
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>>83603989
he has no proof, not even evidence under the bare minimum needed for a hypothesis. It's all just gut feelings. Anyone who disagrees with his omnipotent wisdom must secretly be a saboteur, out to get him and destroy the west.
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>>83603958
You're not even hearing what I'm saying. I never said losing weight is impossible and anybody who does it must be lying about it, I said it's pointless and there's no reason to do it once you're fat, because once a fatty always a fatty, even if you're not overweight anymore. The damage is done and irreversible.

>>83603977
OK have fun believing whatever big pharma tells you this year.

>>83603989
>except none of the articles mentioned advocated for any kind of pills
Of course not, but encouraging fatties to exercise doesn't do anything except put them at further risk for things like injuries or heart attacks, which will inevitably force them to consult doctors who will -- surprise -- extract as much money from them as possible, as the medical industry is designed from the ground up to do. So of course they're going to tell you losing weight once you're as heavy as a tank will be good for you, even if it's a lie.
>medical studies done of 10000s of people - > 'no actual scientific basis'.
Unironically yes. The Coca Cola Company has commissioned similarly sized studies """confirming""" that people who drink Coke once a day end up healthier than everyone else. It's a lie, just as all the studies you linked are lies, because the sample size doesn't matter if the methodology is flawed, which studies like these always are.

>>83604004
Congrats on lifting your 40-pound jiggly ass fingers to type out this comment anon, proud of you. Don't strain yourself though.
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>>83604735
Anon stated already that doctors recommend low intensity exercises for weight loss specifically so you don't do something stupid and die
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>>83604735
>one study funded by coca cola = no study ever has good methodology
Do you believe in evolution nonnykins?
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>>83595040
this nigger so retarded
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>>83604735
Could you please explain what exactly is the flaw in the methodology of the studies linked? Especially since they use several different methodologies.
Also, it would be great if you have a source for a study that you consider methodologically relevant and ideally one that substantiates your claims.
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>>83604735
Also, as I mentioned in my original comment but you conveniently ignored, countries outside of America have publicly-funded healthcare which means that doctors receive the same money irregardless of if they have more or less consultations. If anything, it's in their interests to have as few consultations as possible as they are usually already overworked; plus increased healthcare spending to care for injured people and such would further deplete already limited hospital resources
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>>83594180
To an extent, yeah, if you really snorlaxxed sure. If you stayed <260lbs you can probably turn that around.
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>>83604735
>me when I lie
>source: my ass
>actually, here are my sources
>w-well how do I trust the science, huh!?
>check the methodology
Allow me to make a prediction:
>you have to tell ME the methodology or else it's just shill propaganda!

At some point you have to throw in the towel man
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Oh the shame, oh the pain, I am but a wretch, whatever shall I do to recrify my existence of obesity~
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All fatties must submit to their desires, as their lives are already forfeit to the gods of gluttony! Such is the only fate fat people are allowed to live, don'tcha know!
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Big jiggly waterbeds
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Just imagine how full and content you would be with a loaf of garlic bread in your belly right now. Warm, soft, heavy. Imagine taking a nap full of food, digesting your meal and waking up ready for more.
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Say it with me robots:
O U G H
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I mean if we're all fucked anyway why not get bigger? Won't it be fun? Won't it feel good?
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>>83604806
Fatty bodies are already in such an incredibly compromised state that it doesn't matter if the exercises are "low impact" anyway because the risk of injury or medical crisis lies in being fat or having been fat, not being fat and doing things. Also low impact exercise is by definition not exercise.

>>83605068
>>83604903
>STUDY
>STUDY
>ACKSUALLY YOU NEED A STUDY FOR THAT CLAIM
>UM DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE TO CITE???

>>83604938
Those countries avoid letting their citizens get fat in the first place and for good reason.

>>83605101
>>83605117
>>83605122
>>83605186
>>83605217
>>83605283
Please commit suicide immediately.
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>>83606175
> Fatty bodies are already in such an incredibly compromised state that it doesn't matter if the exercises are "low impact" anyway because the risk of injury or medical crisis lies in being fat or having been fat, not being fat and doing things
Ah so you are now completely changing the story around. Before it used to be that it's that fat people have an increased risk of injury, but now you are just moving the goalpost lmao
> Also low impact exercise is by definition not exercise.
It's in the name, you retard. What's more, walking is exercise (by all definitions) and it's low impact exercise and it's one of the best kinds to lose weight.

>ACKSUALLY YOU NEED A STUDY FOR THAT CLAIM
Lmao, I was waiting for you to invoke this meme. It's just the last line of defense of stupid people who know they have nothing to back their claims so they resort to thinly-velied ad-hominem. You can't make claims and then refuse to show any proof. I mean, you can, but then you just look like a retard.

> Those countries avoid letting their citizens get fat in the first place and for good reason.
No they don't lmao. Europe has publicly funded healthcare and fairly significant obesity rates (around 50%, certain countries in EU up to 60%). So you are once again just plain wrong. It's so embarrassing this could have been avoid by like one Google search.
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I think OP is just an autistic fatty who is coping about why they aren't trying to do anything to be less repulsive to general society
Or their crush got stolen by someone who recently lost weight and became more attractive.
Or maybe both
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>>83606175
>rejects evidenced claim
>has no alternative hypothesis to offer
>completely loses the plot on how to verify anything as true, so merely tears peer review down
Uhm Ackshully all you want, you failed.
>suicide
Nope! You're stuck with me :)
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>>83594180
is there anything more pathetic than someone with zero self control trying to say "NO ITS JUST IMPOSSIBLE!"
>no see its IMPOSSIBLE for me to get fit because im already fat!
>if i lose weight i'll never EVER be healthy again! why? uhhhh just because ok!?
>I WAS FORCED TO EAT 5 HAMBURGER IN ONE SITTING, YOU INSENSITIVE MONSTER!
you just have no self control, no will to truly say "no, thats enough"
you could very easily turn things around right now before you have a heart attack.
>eat normal portions,
>work out, even if you can only manage a 5 minute jog for now.
>most importantly: resist your body's urges.
it is that simple, it wouldnt even be a massive change. just a little bit of moving and less eating.
but you wont, because you're a weak willed loser.
you are nothing more than a slave to your body and primitive urges, and rather than face that fact head on you instead choose to come up with hundreds of little excuses to dodge around the real reason.
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>>83606324
>Ah so you are now completely changing the story around. Before it used to be that it's that fat people have an increased risk of injury,
Which is literally what I just said. They're rendered so frail by their weight that exercising is pointless. They're weak. The goalpost is exactly where I left it.
>It's in the name, you retard.
And it's an inherently paradoxical name, like hot ice, three-sided square or consensual rape. Just because there's a name for the concept doesn't mean it exists. Fatties can't expend enough energy to lose weight without putting themselves at risk because being fat is inherently risky, and doing so is pointless anyway.
>Lmao, I was waiting for you to invoke this meme.
Lmaoing @ this attempt to disguise your dearth of critical thinking skills with "a-HA! I expected you to say that which means I win!"
>No they don't lmao. Europe has publicly funded healthcare and fairly significant obesity rates (around 50%, certain countries in EU up to 60%). So you are once again just plain wrong. It's so embarrassing this could have been avoid by like one Google search
None of this is even true. European countries are old as fuck meaning their architecture predates the advent of the automobile, so they were fundamentally forced to design their infrastructure to be as dense and walkable as possible, which is why they don't get fat in the first place. Same with Japan, it's a series of islands with limited space they can't afford to waste on sprawling parking lots and 18-lane highways. Not fat either. This in tandem with their approach toward food regulation means they don't have to join a gym to stay fit and don't have to work on "rehabbing" their hamplanet population, which would be a pointless endeavor anyway. You fail.
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>>83606352
>>83606371
I work very hard to not get fat actually. I genuinely do not understand how people can allow themselves to balloon up to the size of a PT cruiser and not feel immense shame, but I don't pity them either. I almost do but it's impossible when their predicament is their fault. When I was at my heaviest I couldn't even leave the house until I got back down to double digits again, so how people get to 350+ is beyond me.

>>83606363
I already offered you my hypotheses and logic and in response you went "Erm, that's not what Novo Nordisk says so..."
You are a faggot and a lardass sympathizer.
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>>83606607
>NO NO NO NO YOU CAN NEVER GET THIN AGAIN BUT I MYSELF AM TOTALLY FIT. YOU JUST CAN NEVER EVER BE FIT ONCE YOU'RE FAT
>thinks that a double digit weight is healthy
alright so either
>you're lying, need to stop coping, and just need to eat another cheeseburger like the fatty you are.
>you're severely underweight and NEED to eat a cheeseburger (like right this second (seriously i might be a fat fetishist but being that thin is absolutely not healthy))
>you're a fucking midget and we need to make dwarf jokes
>you're too close to england
so which is it, anon?
are you a lard ball, a skeleton, most comfortable when in a hole, or bri'ish?
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>>83606607
You gave no logic. You just have flat denial of fitness and health sciences. Swimming, rowing and walking are completely valid. Exercise doesn't need to rape your muscles completely to be exercise.
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>>83606671
I'd much rather be a skelly than a walking fucking Subaru you useless fat sack of shit. Being skinny is much healthier than having heavy running through your veins.

>>83606773
>Swimming, rowing and walking are completely valid.
And fatties can't do any of that shit for longer than 60 seconds at a time without potentially hurting themselves. And if they do, it will have all been pointless anyway so it doesn't matter. Once you've tainted your body with that shit, it's tainted. Simple as.
>Exercise doesn't need to rape your muscles completely to be exercise.
If you're not pushing yourself to your absolute limits, then there's no point in doing it at all. This website has gotten so fucking soft it's unreal, you sound like a tumblrite from 2015.
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>>83603802
that gif is goals, someone feed me to that point and beyond pls
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>>83603802
Imagine being male and having twice as many titties as your girlfriend.
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>>83606984
its pretty hot, cant lie
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>>83606949
>Being skinny is much healthier than having heavy running through your veins.
yes but there is also a point where you become too skinny and are at greater risk than some whale over 400 pounds.
if you're an average height male then the double digits are that territory. your body has next to no reserve in case of emergencies, it has to take from vitals if it needs more energy than you've given it.
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>>83594418
You didn't read OP's post.
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>>83607117
Even if being too skinny can really be considered unhealthy (which is a big if), there's no fucking way it's ever going to be worse than being fat. That shit destroys you for life.
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>>83607326
>(which is a big if)
nigger being too skinny will actually cause organ damage due to the fact that your body just doesnt have the resources to work properly.
do you think that your body just magically poofs nutrients and calories out of nowhere?
no it doesnt you fucking retard. your body NEEDS sufficient energy and nutrients to do what it does on a day to day basis.
your body is constantly replacing cells, if it doesnt have the materials do to so then you're going to end up with MUCH weaker organs.
both extremes are horrible for your health in the long run.
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>>83606984
kek, it'd be a dream to have doubletits, at least for me. I'll be the bigger one in the relationship for health reasons (unrelated, genetically inherited skeletal problems limit how big the other can be) but you know titties are getting sucked on the fuckin daily.
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>>83607326
>Even if-
>*bone shatters from lack of padding*
>being too skinny can really be considered-
>*ribcage pokes a hole in your organs in autofellatio accident*
>unhealthy, (which is a big if), there's no fucking way-
>*spine and tailbone start grinding every time you sit down*
>it's ever going to be worse than being fat.
>*vomits into toilet, stomach acid burning a hole in your esophagus for the potential loss of a couple hundred calories*
>That shit destroys you for life.
>*silences body's natural craving for nutrients with totally healthy tobacco and heroin*
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Someone please kidnap me and help me balloon to 200 pounds (around twice my current weight) while also helping me keep up a light exercise regimen to stay mobile.
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>>83607741
kek being 200 pounds isn't gonna render you bedbound, you could frankly be a good linebacker at 200
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>>83607846
Yeah I know but I would hate for the weight to sit poorly and make me tired all the time
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>>83603802
>I am both becoming one and dating one.
So, you're a literal faggot? No wonder you have degenerate sexual tastes.
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>>83607950
>anon doesn't know how to read and misread "fatty" as "fag"
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>>83607400
If you eat enough to stay alive, which I do, then you're fine. The problem is excess. I eat once every day or two and I'm perfectly healthy. You can barely reach your fat fucking ass because you never STOP eating.

>>83607458
>*bone shatters from lack of padding*
I have never broken a bone in my life
>*ribcage pokes a hole in your organs in autofellatio accident*
Being fat wouldn't solve this. It would just stop you from being able to suck yourself off at all.
>*spine and tailbone start grinding every time you sit down*
If you're not constantly putting excessive weight on your joints, your joints are extremely unlikely to suffer.
>*vomits into toilet, stomach acid burning a hole in your esophagus for the potential loss of a couple hundred calories*
This fucking pseudoscientific argument lmao. Stomach acid is nowhere near strong enough to harm you that bad. Worst case scenario, you get kind of a sore throat and that's it.
>*silences body's natural craving for nutrients with totally healthy tobacco and heroin*
Better than satisfying it with totally healthy caramel cubes dipped in coagulated bacon grease.
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>>83608090
No, retard. The fact that he states he is both "dating one" and "becoming one" almost certainly implies that both him and his partner are the same sex. Because if you have a fetish for fat men and you're making yourself fat and dating a fatty, you're probably both male.
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>>83608167
Who specified males?
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>>83608183
The fact that he's solely posting pictures of fat males and not fat females heavily implies that. Plus, if it wasn't a faggot relationship, it'd imply that anon is likely to be a woman (since why tf would a straight man dating a woman post sexualized images of fat men), and biological women don't use 4chan.
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>>83608276
Because anon is a male, and the thread is from a male :)
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>>83606671
>>thinks that a double digit weight is healthy
It is retard. He almost certainly means kg, not lbs, and being 100kg or more is unhealthy unless you're both extremely muscular and extremely tall.
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>>83608327
>220 pounds
That's fucking nothing, like genuinely it's just decent muscle with a small beer gut
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>>83594180
I lost almost 50 pounds in like 7 months just fast walking around an hour each day and eating very healthy and very few as needed.
Stop being a fat fuck POS
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>>83594180
im making this my lockscreen thank you anon
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>>83608156
>If you eat enough to stay alive, which I do, then you're fine
if you're in the double digits and going on less than one meal a day then you are absolutely not eating enough to stay alive.
you are slowly dying because your body is starved for calories and nutrients.
your organs are getting weaker because they do not have the resources to properly replicate their cells.
you will only notice when its too late to reverse the damage, and you'll fucking WISH that you were a ham planet instead of a skeleton.
>The problem is excess
not having enough is also a problem. like i said, nutrients and calories dont just pop up out of thin air, your body has minimum needs and eating less than one meal a day does not meet them.
>and I'm perfectly healthy
you're really not
>You can barely reach your fat fucking ass because you never STOP eating.
buddy i wish, im only 200 pounds
>>83608327
he said that he eats once every day or two. he is absolutely not a healthy weight.
you should also read the rest of my post and check his response.
i put up the option of using KG (being too close to england) and he chose the skeleton option, which that alone implies he's talking in pounds.
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>>83608569
other fetishposting anon here
I've been hungry and cold before, and yeah, it made me realize that I had no reason to abstain and stay fit; it gave no benefit to be fitter, except being a better cog for demanding employers to work and wear down. Now I don't work jobs like that, and my life is better overall.
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>>83608629
eh, i do have an actual reason to not bloat up recklessly.
i have creative works i want to make and get out to the world, and i think thats more important than turning myself into a lardball. cant die at 40 if i can actually maintain a foothold. and also the sizes i really want to be are far from possible in reality
at most im going to 350lb for a while and slimming back down just so that i can experience being obese.
that goes tits up, however, and im 100% eating myself to an early grave
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>>83608869
You'd be surprised anon. You have heard of folks like Leviathan SSBHM, haven't you? :3c But yeah, I respect that. Personally, 350 only made me feel small in comparison to my greater goals. Barely-mobile is like, my basic goal, before anything else.
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>>83608569
>if you're in the double digits and going on less than one meal a day then you are absolutely not eating enough to stay alive.
And yet, here I stand.
>you are slowly dying because your body is starved for calories and nutrients. your organs are getting weaker because they do not have the resources to properly replicate their cells.
I'm going to outlive your fat ass because I'm not destroying my organs with endless McDonald's.
>you will only notice when its too late to reverse the damage, and you'll fucking WISH that you were a ham planet instead of a skeleton.
Nothing could ever make me wish I was a lardass. I'm not even doing any damage to myself, if I were you'd be able to point out exactly how being thin is as bad as or worse than being fat but you won't because you can't.
>not having enough is also a problem. like i said, nutrients and calories dont just pop up out of thin air, your body has minimum needs and eating less than one meal a day does not meet them.
I'm clearly meeting them if I'm fucking talking to you faggot.
>you're really not
I really am. Again, I'm going to outlive you.
>buddy i wish, im only 200 pounds
You say that like that's not morbidly obese lmao
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>>83595133
My mom is a fat retarded whore and my dad a weak beta male, so no shit I got obese as a teenager and thus developed being an abused for the treatment I got in my developmental years (which my mother ofc denies because she is a retarded whore I can't beat up because I want the inheritance money so I can't rot till I die), so now I am 32 years old, actually do look extremely good, as in fashion model tier, but because I have an abused dog brain from growing up fat I act autistic and ND and never even kissed a girl.
The only good things my Boomer parents ever did for me was becoming rich in an economy where it was piss easy to do.
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>>83608894
>And yet, here I stand.
And yet, here we stand!
>I'm clearly meeting them if I'm fucking talking to you faggot.
It's almost like health isn't an immediate thing and long-term effects can come of your lifestyle and nutritional problems! You know, like with fatties! What a funny thought, that one.
>You say that like that's not morbidly obese lmao
picrel. It's literally just barely the border of overweight for people like me who don't talk like they inhaled helium. By the way how's the weather down there?
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>>83608892
nah man, i want to be a genuine room filling blob.
>Personally, 350 only made me feel small in comparison to my greater goals
yeah i get that and it's going to be hard as fuck to stop there, but if i wanna do what i want to do then i gotta do it.
>barely mobile
god i love the concept, every step a laborious struggle. but you're not quite immobile yet so you gotta keep waddling.
>>83608894
like the other anon said, it isnt instant.
it is a slow and gradual process.
you wont instantly die if you dont eat for one day.
but if you go for years on end while being severely malnourished like you currently are then yes, you are eventually going to run into VERY big problems. and when those problems become apparent it is going to be far too late to truly reverse them.
i am trying to HELP you, the concept of a heathy weight range exists for a reason.
>thinks 200 pounds is morbidly obese
so either you're retarded, a semi decent troll given that you've been able to keep me this long, or a dwarf. which is it?
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>>83608977
>spoiler
Mood....I'd settle for a quarter ton though.
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>>83606599
>Fatties can't expend enough energy to lose weight without putting themselves at risk because being fat
First, off any kind of activity that uses energy is exercise by definition. Walking from bed to toilet will use calories. And walking at a slow pace for an hour or two will have 0% increased chance of injury (compared to someone who is not fat) and will use up several 100 calories, especially if you are overweight. You should try it for yourself if you don't believe me. Or do you think laws of thermodynamics are also jewish propaganda?
>dearth of critical thinking skills
you still didn't explain what exactly is flawed with methodology of source I provided. Or on what logic and sources you base your claim. Therefore, it's your critical thinking skills which are proven to be rather lacking here. 'Akchtually, I am right and you are wrong b-because you are!' is not critical thinking.
>None of this is even true.
https://www.google.com/search?q=eu+obesity+rate&sca_esv=0bef742b4fee5174&sxsrf=ANbL-n61a9V9foK7f862TcWG_VjmIR8-1A%3A1767870850316&source=hp&ei=gpFfafSDEdSHxc8P35WK2AY&iflsig=AFdpzrgAAAAAaV-fksBrsFsh-nLPsEfOy1Xsq4HoCsxt&ved=0ahUKEwj0zKiQ6PuRAxXUQ_EDHd-KAmsQ4dUDCB4&uact=5&oq=eu+obesity+rate&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz
Here I even provided a google search for you since you seem incapable of making one yourself. Feel free to read any of the provided sites and pick which one you trust. All say that the obesity rate is around 50%.
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>>83609087
You shoulda just posted the classic:
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=eu+obesity+rates
But either way you've spent more than enough energy on that whiner. This thread should either slide off naturally or change into something more gratifying :3
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tl;dr your fat cells shrink as you lose weight but never fully go away, you do metabolize the fat and shit it out via your lymphatic system (actually piss it out to be precise), stretch marks will remain as will loose skin but the latter can easily be removed with minor surgery and everyone has stretch marks from puberty or pregnancy or life, or the triumvirate. supposedly you can freeze fat cells but liposuction actually removes them. lipedema does fuck you over because those are abnormal fat cells that do not behave typically to weight loss and directly related to female sex hormones.

glp-1s have been a miracle drug for eradicating obesity. subcutaneous fat may be ugly but it is the visceral fat that actually kills you. lipo-stat shots and peptides such as a tesamorelin/ipamorelin blend are fantastic ways to burn fat, especially visceral. a decade ago modern glp-1 receptor agonists had their closest corollary in liraglutide which was a daily injection. these things are actual miracle drugs and we make medical advancements every day. in some aspects, the world does genuinely just keep getting better.

cicofags with undiagnosed orthorexic/restrictive eds stay malding.
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>tfw i eat whatever i want whenever i want and still remain skinny with zero effort
fatties be malding
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>>83609703
I like being fat though
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>>83609703
are you ever going to use the emeritus capcode, faggot
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>>83609746
>I like having an apple instead of those nasty sour grapes!
>>83609906
What the fuck are you talking about, retard?
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>>83610029
seems like schizo would be more appropriate than retard in this scenario, no?
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>>83608298
So? It's still almost guaranteed that anon is a fat man dating another fat man, as opposed to either of them being female.
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>>83610720
fat men tend not to fuck each other unless they are t4t but even then that is far less common than a fat butch lesbian couple or fat butch and her/their fat femme. The Gays tend to be on the thinner side unless going bearmode but bears squared are typically square bears.
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>>83608919
> And yet, here we stand!
I'm surprised you can stand at all. Shouldn't your fat ass be fused to your couch?
>It's almost like health isn't an immediate thing
It LITERALLY is though.
>and long-term effects can come of your lifestyle and nutritional problems! You know, like with fatties!
You keep trying to present this as some sort of perfectly symmetrical thing and it's not. Being a fucking manatee is objectively far worse than being thin if you could even call thinness a bad thing.
> What a funny thought, that one.
Yeah it's a pretty funny thought but only because of how ridiculous it is.
>picrel. It's literally just barely the border of overweight for people like me who don't talk like they inhaled helium. By the way how's the weather down there?
Overweight is overweight. All obesity is morbid obesity. You destroyed your body over some degenerate fetish. I don't sympathize with you at all.
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>>83608977
>like the other anon said, it isnt instant.
>it is a slow and gradual process.
I didn't say it was instant, I've been saying that being fat destroys you from the inside out and it has.
>you wont instantly die if you dont eat for one day. but if you go for years on end while being severely malnourished like you currently are
I'm not malnourished, I work out for four hours every day. I wouldn't have enough energy to do that if I was malnourished. Fatties are Olympic gold medal tier at mental gymnastics.
>then yes, you are eventually going to run into VERY big problems.
I'll run into problems decades after you're dead.
> and when those problems become apparent it is going to be far too late to truly reverse them.
I'm not going to have any problems. At least not related to my eating habits. Between people like you and my fucking parents I'm so sick of fatties constantly trying to force feed me.
>i am trying to HELP you, the concept of a heathy weight range exists for a reason.
The goal is to keep off as much fat as possible. That's healthy. Any amount of fat can clog your arteries and kill you.
>>thinks 200 pounds is morbidly obese
>so either you're retarded, a semi decent troll given that you've been able to keep me this long, or a dwarf. which is it?
As I said to the other anon, all obesity is more obesity. There's no gray area here. At 200 pounds, it's over, you are a fat sack of shit and you need to kill yourself.
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people with eating disorders have broken brains, doesn't the state put you on meds or some shit.
who isn't popping pills these days.
limp dick mother fuckers.
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>>83609087
>Walking from bed to toilet will use calories.
WALKING TO THE BATHROOM TO DESTROY YOUR TOILET AFTER EATING 3 STUFFED CRUST PIZZAS IN A ROW IS NOT EXERCISE YOU FUCKING NATURAL SATELLITE. I'm not reading the rest of your post omfg
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Autists should ropemaxx
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>>83611020
wow look at you moving the goalposts over here. what was your original claim again, anonymous poster?
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>>83611044
I'd suggest fatties ropemaxx too, but if they tried they'd bring their house down.
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>>83611036
It's called giving a simple example you idiot. If you read the sentence after, you would see that. Plus it is very convenient you wouldn't read the rest when it directly proves you wrong lmao. I think you lack of eating has ruined your brain.
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>>83611011
By your logic, starving children in Africa should live much longer than an obese person and yet it is not such. No one is saying being fat is healthy, but the point was that neither extreme is good and that you should strive to be at a balanced weight and getting there from being thin or fat will have benefits of on your body.
> At 200 pounds, it's over
It depends on height. For someone who is 6'4'' it's BMI of less than 25 so not obese. But I would like to hear what you say is the 'healthy' weight to be for a given height.
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>>83611147
I said once you're fat, you're fat. Even if you're not "fat" anymore, you're still fat. That point has never changed. I'm starting to think you don't understand what "moving the goalpost" even means.

>>83611229
>If you read the sentence after, you would see that.
The fact that you unironically believe that walking to the bathroom is an example of exercise is exactly why I didn't read the rest of your post.

>>83611249
Children in Africa die early because they're in Africa. They're busy getting raped and developing full blown AIDS because they believe their god will cure them of it if they rape a baby. They live in mud huts with straw roofs, yeah no fucking wonder they die early. They're skinning and eating each other over there.
> the point was that neither extreme is good and that you should strive to be at a balanced weight and getting there from being thin or fat will have benefits of on your body.
Ok but you're literally wrong though. Being fat is bad and having fat in your body is bad, simple as.
>It depends on height. For someone who is 6'4'' it's BMI of less than 25 so not obese.
No it's still fat.
>But I would like to hear what you say is the 'healthy' weight to be for a given height.
Minimum weight is healthiest weight. It's not complicated.
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>6'1"
>130lbs
Every day I thank God for not making me fat.
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>>83611020
retarded or troll, got it.
either way, hope you enjoy a very miserable mass organ failure at 30
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>>83611369
>anyone who calls me fat is either retarded or a troll :(((
Yeah OK bye fatty. Don't have a stroke in your sleep tonight.
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>>83611369
>anon trying to claim that being underweight is unhealthier than being morbidly obese
I get you've got a fat fetish, but come on man.
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>>83611353
>I said once you're fat, you're fat. Even if you're not "fat" anymore, you're still fat.

i think you might actually be genuinely mentally challenged. it is very impressive that you manage to use a keyboard well enough to type structural sentences, even if they are completely nonsensical and logically incoherent. usually at your level of nonfunctional autism you would be smearing mcdonalds hamburger patties against the screen while grunting and shitting yourself.
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>>83611567
Actually you're retarded because the fat is cutting off circulation to your brain.
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>>83609906
(i wish he would) ( ._.)
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>>83611680
hey you know you never actually responded to me
>>83609599
up here, btw.
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I dropped from 390 to 220 and size 34 to 6 in two years which is hilarious. Wearing my middle school uniform skirt right now and it is so loose it barely stays up.
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>>83611353
>having fat in your body is bad, simple as.
>Minimum weight is healthiest weight.
Anon thinks picrel is a healthy person with good long-term health outcomes
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>>83611461
the whole point is that both are horrible for you in the long run.
while being obese has more immediate threats and risks (mobility, overworked organs, visceral fat reducing how well moving organs can preform and increasing the risk of failure) being underweight has more long term effects (like gradual organ weakening due to malnutrition)
anon's problem (assuming he's just retarded) is that he thinks ANY fat is a bad thing when thats just not true. if that were the case we would've never evolved to have fat in the first place.
fat is your body's resource pool, if there's ever a case where it needs more nutrition and energy than you've given it it turns to your fat reserves first. if that resource pool isnt there, then its either going to result in a weaker outcome or the body eating itself to perform the process.
and there's a lot of reasons why you'd need that sudden backup. like a sickness your body needs more energy to fight off, or a day where you're performing more labor than usual.

and keep in mind that he's in the double digits for pounds, eats once every 1-2 days, and works out for four hours a day. he is absolutely at greater risk than someone thats morbidly obese (assuming he's not a lying troll)
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>>83610029
Sour grapes? I said without caveat or qualification, I like being fat. I started at 170 pounds and doubled it on purpose, because I like how being fat feels.
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Is this one of those schizo threads where a guy who doesn't know what he's talking about makes something up about a group he doesn't like and then accuses everyone who disagrees of being part of that group?
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>>83609906
>>83611705
What? I'm lost here guys, all I see when I look the phrase up is Cape Cod website resources.
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>>83611721
being an adult size 6 in middle school is crazy



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