>>83637837
try harder op
sage

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>>83637837
i don't really envy you cause i wouldn't wanna be a pooner. also im not a geezer im 18

>>83637841
You got brutally mogged
>>83637859
You're basically a barely legal teenage girl

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>>83637863
im not a girl though im a guy with a dick you'll never have ahhhh

>>83637863
post hands or fake and gay

>>83637884
You type like a cute girl though. I don't want a dick, pussy is superior.

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>>83637894
nah i type with epicsauce swag and demure
anyways what's good in a pussy if you can't stick it in people

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how do you even fuck them

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>>83637837
you have no penis
I do

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>>83637917
the guy has niggas insert their willy in "his" tuna

>>83637906
I can stick my tdick into girls. They won't feel it, but i do
>>83637917
Strapon, toys, hands, mouth etc.

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>>83637928
1 inchadoodle thingamajingaling ahhhh it's over for you ahhhhh

>>83637936
You're a gay
>>83637921
You're also a gay
A gay faggot

question since posting in pooner thread and op seems to be upset
is it gay to fuck a man with a pussy

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>>83637943
which one of us is gay is it the gay nigga diddling mfs with the thrustmaster 50000 because "he" has no dick?

>>83637959
>is it gay to fuck a man with a pussy
Depends how masculine. If very masculine, yes. If not masculine, no.
t. op

>>83637959
nah, that's just called procreation the way god intended, so long as it's in a pussy and not an anus

>>83637982
do u think god intended for u to fuck a fat sweaty bearded guy with a vagina

>>83637966
good answer op is maybe not larping

>>83638013
let's not kid ourselves there ain't no hair on that thang

>>83638013
>do u think god intended for u to fuck a fat sweaty bearded guy with a vagina
Yes

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>>83637837
Yes, I've always been jealous of lesbians.
So what?

The only solution is to be gay, but that's not easy in this country

another question for op and other pooners lurking in here
is it weird that you are often more socially accepted than other trannies, do you talk to mtf and how do you feel about them
were you the stereotypical tomboy playing with trucks growing up or did this happen later in your life

>>83638050
That's a nice picture anon

>>83638063
>is it weird that you are often more socially accepted than other trannies
Not weird. Ftms who are open trans aren't respected or accepted. I'm stealth (no one knows I'm trans except for my romantic partners), therefore I don't have to worry about that
>do you talk to mtf
I don't talk to any trans people
>how do you feel about them7
Don't care for them
>were you the stereotypical tomboy growing up
No, I was a normal gril.
>did this happen later in your life
When I first found out transitioning was an option at age 11 or 12, I knew I would do it

>>83638119
very cool ty op
do you often struggle with dysphoria, i assume you do not since you feel that you pass
do you have many male friends, do they accept you and make dick and ball jokes, etc
i often wonder about these things when im driving or in the shower

>>83638119
>When I first found out transitioning was an option at age 11 or 12, I knew I would do it
Did you troon out that early? Luckshit, lul
>I don't talk to any trans people
Based. That's the way. "queer" spaces are mostly cancer.

>mtf troon

>>83638205
post feet bet u smell

>>83638162
>do you often struggle with dysphoria
Kind of, but mainly because I'm a DIYfag and need to pay the thousands of euros for top surgery by myself therefore I'm still saving up money for this.
>do you have many male friends
No, I don't have any friends. I have tons of male acquaintances though, we're on friendly terms and we see and talk to each other almost every single day. We're all engineers, so we have that in common.
>do they accept you
Some do, some don't. None of them know I'm trans, but when I do something gay and retarded they lose respect.
>do they make dick and ball joke
They're not that immature, although one of them made one and expected me to agree (because he thinks I also have a dick and balls) and I just laughed a tad uncomfortable

>>83637837
Nobody wishes they were a transvestite.

>>83638238
>DIYfag
same desu but more fixing my house type shit lole

>when I do something gay and retarded they lose respect
ya this is normal

i had a friend growing up that became a pooner later on in life, they look like a fat biker dude now

did u voice train or do u sound like those meme asmr (((boyfriend))) videos

>>83638238
>need to pay the thousands of euros for top surgery
It's like 3000 euros in Poland.
If you're an engineer, you should be able to save up that cash pretty easily and fast.

>>83638274
>did u voice train or do u sound like those meme asmr (((boyfriend))) videos
I sound like a young man/onions, but not trans

>>83638249
Wrong, lul.
I wish I could troon out.

>fag

>>83638286
>It's like 3000 euros in Poland.
I won't be botched. It starts at 10k "here".

>>83638292
to answer your op
>I know you geezers wish you were me
i do not wish to be you but perhaps we would be friends

>>83638314
Fair enough. Your body your choice, anon.
And I get the mindset. I also did ffs in Spain at the most expensive option. Got in a bit of debt for it too, but it was totally worth it.

t. >>83638205

>>83637837
How do you do it? I'm a ftm trooncel and I get 0 pussy.

>>83638063
>is it weird that you are often more socially accepted than other trannies, do you talk to mtf and how do you feel about them
i don't find it weird in the sense i know why it happens. many of my friends are mtf, they're nice. i actually don't know any other ftms, at least ones that i still talk to. without exaggeration, all of them are my exes.
>were you the stereotypical tomboy playing with trucks growing up or did this happen later in your life
no. the most masculine hobby i had was being very into programming/open source/private torrent trackers. but i also never grew up around 'traditionally masculine' men. all of the men in my life were lawyers, IT professionals, etc. masculinity as it was taught to me as just 'make a lot of money'. my main hobby as a child was watching runway fashion shows.
i found the skinny, androgynous, slightly masculine leaning form ideal. part of the reason i transitioned was i kept accidentally dating ftms and they (the ones i knew at least) all fit that criteria. i have no separation between what i find physically appealing and what i want to look like, and i figured if all of them turned out like that then i should probably transition too. plus i think the transgender thing is a stepping stone to transhumanism and i support it primarily on that basis.

>>83638408
>without exaggeration, all of them are my exes.
fell for the puppygirl poly meme

>programming/open source/private torrent trackers
based linux pooner install gentoo

>stepping stone to transhumanism
interesting take anon, i really like the neuromancer series

>>83638408
>i found the skinny, androgynous, slightly masculine leaning form ideal
u jerk off to fujoslop don't u

>>83638545
funny enough i could never get into yaoi because the standard personality archetypes of the characters were too revolting for me to watch. i feel that way about most anime in general. usually when i jerk off i can only stand to look at super close up porn where only the genitalia is in frame and i don't have to look at their faces or the rest of their body. gay or straight

>>83638576
>usually when i jerk off i can only stand to look at super close up porn where only the genitalia is in frame and i don't have to look at their faces or the rest of their body
Wow! That's more malebrained than me. And I was born one kek

>>83638576
do u have same visceral feeling towards regular sex, or are u able to enjoy it with your partner
are u like watching them pound ur ass intently or vice versa lol

>>83638641
is that malebrained? i believe that's more common in women than men.
>>83638651
no such feeling during regular sex. the reason why i do it is because i find the vast majority of people unattractive, so in order for me to be turned on at all and not scrutinizing the actors, i need to be able to not look at them.

>>83638729
>to be turned on at all and not scrutinizing the actors, i need to be able to not look at them.
i kinda get this i think, sometimes i have a hard time peeing for whatever reason so i will read a shampoo bottle to not think about it

>knees too pointy can't cum to this

>>83638729
>i believe that's more common in women than men.
Statistics disagree.
Women (to the extent they watch live action porn) prefer long introductions, wide shots to enjoy the bodies of the actors and statistically watch longer if there aren't excessive close-ups.
Men on the other hand prefer the close-ups and less introduction but don't despise the wide shots (like you do).
Since transitioning, my tastes changed somewhere in between. I still like my close ups, but I find the foreplay and the cuddling shots hot in a way I wasn't 8 yrs ago.

>>83638857
most male brained post itt

>>83639040
Yes.
I did say I'm a troon not a woman, kek

>>83639068
ive tried to be friends with a few mtf trannies and they are like fedora tipping fucking neckbeards with tits i swear to god
they all LOVE to argue about shit
what causes this anon, tell me your secrets

I still find it absolutely hilarious that some retarded women out there decide they want to be part of the oppressed, protected social group so they cut their hair short and start going by "Ash" and claiming to be gay men. It's complete headcanon. They are often cute as hell, though. Enbys are cute, too. I want to eat your little "gay" pussies nom nom nom and gaslight you into dressing like a sexy little pixie elf because "Link is a boy"
>>83638857
This is what I mean, pure delusional LARP, but the cute ones can get away with it IMO

>>83639088
>what causes this anon
Mental illnesses as comorbidities (besides agp ofc).

>tell me your secrets
There is no secret. I only suffered from agp. Trooning out has alleviated that to a very large extent. That's it.
I have no other (known or manifested) mental disorders. Maybe a bit spergy (I am here after all) but nothing serious. No ADHD, no autism, no BPD, no NPD... nothing.
The most clocky trannies DO have a few of those. Plus clinical depression.

>they all LOVE to argue about shit
Yes, because they're lonely and unspoken kek
Trooning out cured my loneliness though.
It does seem to be the case that those of us who really didn't want to troon out end up being far more functional.
Idk what to say more. Ask more specific stuff. I'll try to answer.

>>83639088
>and they are like fedora tipping fucking neckbeards with tits i swear to god
they all LOVE to argue about shit
It's because MTFs are just autistic men who have been groomed into gay shit because there's sufficient social and (so-called) medical support for it. Even autistic people love when they have group or authoritative approval to do something retarded. It's like how women won't admit that they just want to be lazy and collect welfare but they'll be like OH MY FIBROMYALGIA MY MORGELLONS I'M DISABLED kek

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>>83637837
I bet your T-clit is cute OP

>>83639159
>OH MY FIBROMYALGIA MY MORGELLONS I'M DISABLED
laughed ngl
gender dysphoria is real bro but yeah some of them are just groomed and shit ur right

>>83639145
>agp
thoughts on ray blanchard
>It does seem to be the case that those of us who really didn't want to troon out end up being far more functional.
has been my experience as well

>Ask more specific stuff. I'll try to answer
hold old were you when this started
what is your favorite pokemon
do you own programmer socks
thoughts on weird fetish chasers

>>83638576
You don't "jerk off" because you have no penis. You have some weird fascination with things you associate with male preferences like this porn shit but that's not even representative of most men lmao. This is just outright mental illness and delusion akin to the old memes about identifying as an attack helicopter

>>83639208
>blanchard
Too reductionist. AGP is real but his prescription is too narrow (and that's in addition to the intentional disinformation/exaggeration about agp which is not his fault but he also didn't try to correct until much later).
The reason (i think) he's reductionist is because he didn't pursue the scientific method till the end. Maybe he couldn't, maybe he didn't give af, maybe he didn't have subjects... idk. I don't care.
>how old
AGP at 17. By age 22 it was occupying 70%+ of my brain bandwidth. I was literally going insane. Started HRT just before turning 23.
>pokemon
I'm 32. Too old for that shit. Also I generally don't like anime at all.
>programmer socks
Yes. Just not the type coded in the troon flag or the rainbow.
I wore them in public as a low-key joke several times. Nobody batted an eyelid. That killed any residual doubt in my mind that I can simply girlmode and it's fine. Troonies online are just insane or lonely. Most normies don't give af.
>chasers
Do you mean people who chase troonies to engage in fetish acts with them or people who chase fetishes online and get brainworms from it?
If it's the former, it's just not for me. I'm literally a normalfag. Normalfag bf and normalfag sex. Legally speaking we're a straight couple ig (since I did change my ID) but whatever.
If it's the latter, well, what can I say? Watch out!
Usually though, people who get into this already have some form of agp and use the fetish to cope. And that's fine. For some of them actually works to avoid trooning out. I didn't even bother to try and thank fuck I didn't. Should've trooned out earlier to avoid the 21-23 period.

>>83639304
>I generally don't like anime at all
>on an anime fan website
makes u think

i agree on you with blachard and thinks more legitimate research needs to go into this that isn't some bogged meme study
unfortunately funding is very hard to get for this, and despite what people on this website like to think troons are much rarer irl so hard to get good sample size
on top of problems with methodology and reliability, etc

>Do you mean people who chase troonies to engage in fetish acts with them or people who chase fetishes online and get brainworms from it?
i meant more specifically the types that want futa dick girls and stuff and just want to sexualize you, which is pretty common i think from talking to other troons
either that or they're like bottom closet homosex/repressor dudes lole

>I'm literally a normalfag. Normalfag bf and normalfag sex
i think by nature browsing and posting here would disagree but good for u anon

Gonna rape your pussy and remind you of the woman you are

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>>83639430
>on an anime fan website
>i think by nature browsing and posting here would disagree
I got here in early 2007, when the transition (heh) between oldfag and newfag happened. By the time I found the whole anime shit I was already liking the site for what anons said.
Also, I am a fag that functions somewhat normally. So... normalfag.
I'm not the only one. Quite a few robots ended up normalfags >>83633882

>troons are much rarer irl so hard to get good sample size
Yes. But it also doesn't help that the medical establishment got intertwined with the hons and activists, which automatically means they get skewed sample sizes.
There's no way I'd sign up for a study that's sponsored by official gay/troon orgs which are all gigacommie and "affirming" of the most annoying troons.
One thing normies don't know is that "queer" spaces changed a lot. I thought I might be the crazy one until I befriended some oldfags (and old lesbos too) and they also confirmed my suspicion. Around 2013 or so a lot of new people showed up in most queer orgs (in Europe, but it seems the US had a similar dynamic) who moved the focus from support and health to political shit (far-Left, specifically) which slowly led to oldfags just leaving. Troons that disagreed also left.
These days I'm told to "check my privilege" because I'm not a dysfunctional neet with a wrapsheet of real and meme/self-diagnosed mental disorders. So why would I want to be there and offer my time to them?

>they're like bottom closet homosex/repressor dudes
I pitty the reppers. Most of them should troon out. I was never a chaser (agp evolved so fast I wouldn't have been able to be one anyway), but I can see why some of them are.
The other type of chasers are the garden variety creeps that any young homo/bi male that looks good is familiar with. They're annoying but they're mostly harmless (here anyway).
I rarely encounter them because I don't have social media that says I'm a troon.

>>83639295
my bad for using the same language the person that replied to me was

>>83639567
I'm frogposter... the lowest of the low. But I was born 2003, so I'll always be as old as 4chan

>>83639617
You're now the age when I trooned out, kek.
Don't worry, anon. Life moves pretty fast.
Do your crazy ideas now no matter what they are(within some legal reason). You'll regret later if you don't.

>>83639567
big agree about gay spaces getting fucking weird as hell in more recent years and many around our age tend to agree

>"check my privilege" because I'm not a dysfunctional neet with a wrapsheet of real and meme/self-diagnosed mental disorders
holy kek

also an oldfag for context

>>83639657
>holy kek
My reaction was "top kek" IRL when I was told that in 2019. It was also the last time I stepped into such a place.
I know one single tranny IRL and she avoided for a while talking to me because she was afraid of the same thing I was afraid: hons with brainworms.
We now meet semi-regularly (every other month or so) with her bf and mine to talk shit.
Ironically, the biggest problem is theyfabs and leftoids. Like a few years ago some random girl decided to white knight for me and try to police people not to say "guys" or "dude". She got really upset when I said "Call me nona and that's it. It's ok." Half of that group still invites me to shit because it turns out being a troon is no big deal but being non-retarded is.

>>83639657
>gay spaces getting fucking weird as hell in more recent years and many around our age tend to agree
Is that why we don't see more non-leftist (or at least not gigacommie) fags and troons anymore?

>>83639735
i think of it like the /pol/ posters that shit up this board and other places desu
gay spaces should be about finding support and community like they were before all this trash that gave everyone brain aids

personally blame 3rd wave feminist contemporary ideology, those fucks genuinely took 4 steps back and the 2nd wave who actually got shit done like womens rights, etc are weeping in their graves

>>83639841
>personally blame 3rd wave feminist contemporary ideology
Agreed. Though I'm not a big fan of any feminism, but that's a different story.
At least the 2nd wave understood how troons work and could exist, even if they didn't necessarily like them. While these "3rd wavers" insist they're allies and in reality everything they do and say actually does a lot more harm.
>gay spaces should be about finding support and community like they were
errr, idk anon. the oldfags I talked with also mentioned the hypersexual stuff and quite a few other issues.
Still, I agree that even the most extreme version of that would still be an improvement to what's the norm today.
>/pol/ posters that shit up this board
I have simpathy for /pol/acks. Not just for some of their beliefs, but for them as people.
Quite a few of them grew out into cute trannies :3
I wish I were joking.

>>83639899
>grew out into cute trannies
beware the chud to tranny pipeline lole

>hypersexual stuff and quite a few other issues
yeah, these are and were valid complaints

>>83639937
>beware the chud to tranny pipeline lole
Makes sense when you think about it.
Reppers try to find a way to cope.
I coped by gymbroing. Some cope by hating troons as hard as they can. Some even for years.

>>83637837
>get to pop barely legal teenage cherries
With what dick?

>>83639966
sometimes i wonder about the troons that seek out places like this
like that one who cam whores her tits on this board and /lgbt/ almost every day
is this elaborate self harm?

>>83638119
>no one knows I'm trans
So you don't shake hands?

>>83640007
>is this elaborate self harm?
I interacted with that one. Too bad the thread got 404'd when I replied more honestly.
I think that one might be a BPDemon tbdesu. She definitely fits the definition of self-harm in the BPD context. Also could be a troll just using another troon's pics.
More broadly, as said here >>83639145 too many troons simply do have more mental disorders than just agp.
It's why I can't really disagree with anons like >>83639131 because a lot of troons are like that.
What's worse is that a lot of them could get away with it. They're really not ugly and legit do pass most of the time but goddamn it they have millions of brainworms. Nothing will convince them about reality.
And the "community" doesn't quite help either. Old(er) troons fuck off from the community so there is no mentorship.
I usually get a lot of pushback from troons when I dish out actionable advice that actually fucking works rather than feed brainworms. They are their own worst enemy; far worse than "society" most of the time. That's why troons are so easy to attack.
Sure, it doesn't work on me. But I know it works on at least 40% of troons.
>/lgbt/
That place is a creche. I hate it. Brainworms upon brainworms everywhere and active refusal of any actionable advice that is not "affirming" enough.
I wish troons were like the chuds say we are: LARPers who wear a woman costume. Because if we were just that, a lot more troons would be stealth by now and more functional and wealthier.
Errr... and that's why I don't like queer spaces.

>troons that seek out places like this
I will always be a robot. It is what it is.

>>83640102
has been nice yapping with u fren
take care