What is causing this? Why aren't young men working hard anymore?
>>83648223the cost of living has become so bad that many young people who do not foresee themself obtaining wealth have settled for cruising by
Why bust your ass for a boss that doesn't care? Work harder and all you get is more work to do, no raises no promotions. Plus give 100% one time and the boss expects that all the time and gets pissed if you don't give it. Better to do just enough to not stand out from the other workers.
>>83648223Cost of living has made working full time near pointless. Most of my friends are living with their folks at 30 and the two who don't are forking over 1.8k on a goddamn one bedroom apartment. A relative in an area that was known for low CoL is still paying 1.4kI'm just gonna work part time and rent a room so I can pursue my actual interests in my spare time, fuck this shit
>>83648223Its not just zoomers, everyone except the elites is fucking tired. I think to myself 15 years ago when I started working and I'm shocked at the amount of horseshit I was willing to tolerate back then for minimum wage.
>>83648223>what is causing thispoverty, homelessness, and/or the threat of them>why aren't young men working hard anymorenigga read the image you posted
>>83648223>What is causing this?It literally says in the tweet, it's not worth it to work hard if you can't afford long-term financial goals. >>83648245
>>83648223they are not cuck simple as that
>>83648223Your answer's right there in the headline. "Not worth it if they cannot afford long term financial goals."Seems pretty straightforward. Why bother?
Getting a job is a pain the ass anyway, why do they care so much?
>>83648266>Waaaah, I'm not making 80k a year to do nothing Have you retards never heard of the corporate latter? You start off at the bottom and climb to the top. In 94 I started out in the mailroom and within 6 years got a well paying position and I only had a bullshit degreeNo reason why you all can't do that
>>83648347Your bait is stale and boring. Come up with something better next time please.
>>83648223I blame excessive coddling. I was relentlessly criticized and shamed into working hard at school for my entire childhood, and I ended up finishing grad school and getting an actual fucking career. My family isn't even proud of me. They're scared as fucking shit of the "monster" they've created since I'm "too independent" and can't be controlled.My brother was allowed to do whatever the fuck he pleases and he's practically a NEET wasting his life away at home on BING BING WAHOOOOOOO bullshit, which he's not even all that great at from what other people have told me. And he's considered the typical zoomer. If parents just beat the fucking normal into their kids, maybe we wouldn't be in half as much of a mess as we are in now.
>>83648223I'm working hard and all it's done is bring me more wear and tear on my body and more costs. I work hard because I was raised that way but it doesn't pay off at all
>>83648347>Have you retards never heard of the corporate latter?No, in fact you're the only one that has ever head of the "corporate latter".
>>83648347uphill in the snowBOTH WAYS
>>83648381>my parents made me a good goy
>>83648223Working hard just gets you more work for no additional pay. All the fruit of that labor goes straight to (((executives))) and (((shareholders))) while your pay stagnates...so why work any harder than the bare minimum?
I worked hard and gave you a lot of the technology that...that, currently is ruining you.Wait, what?
>>83648223bro we were set up for failure since we got out. starting fresh as an 18 year old male is way fucking harder than it is 6+ years ago. We pay double from rent to insurance. its funny that old fucks tell me all the time my car insurance for my 2017 toyota camry will go down. it's been going up every day since I got it in 2020. Clean record, I always lie about how many miles I drive. Still keeps going up. >>83648347i make 80k a year. Did it take a while to grind? yes. The thing is, is 80k a year is not the fucking same as 80k a year before lol. 100k+ now is basically the new salary you must reach if you want to hit barely upper middle class.
>>83648347DEI made this impossible now You being gate kept by HR KarensAlso why promote someone when you can just give them more responsibilities for the same salary.
zoomers are just dumb as doorknobs that basically explains it all they're just retarded.
>>83648460Car insurance fucks over men, then we get fucked over again in health insurance. Meanwhile women win both of those expenses. It's complete bullshit.>male drivers get in more accidents and have higher claims than women>car insurance companies are allowed to charge men more just for being men while women get charged less just for being women>women go to the doctor more and have higher claims than men>not allowed to charge individual women more just for being women and charge individual men less just for being men>instead every employee enrolling for health insurance at your entire company is lumped together and the insurance carrier calculates a demographic score based on the ratio of males to females>man working in a company full of women? you'll pay more even though it's your foid coworkers driving up the premiums>woman working in a company full of men? you'll pay less because the men are subsidizing youtldr the type of insurance where women are cheaper has individualized pricing (women get to keep all their savings) and the type of insurance where men are cheaper has group pricing (women get to pass on their expenses to men)
>>83648223Everything is too motherfucking expensive
>>83648515Yeah insurance is a huge problem for my generation just as much as housing. The whole health insurance isn't as much as a hassle as the car insurance. I always get the cheapest health, im a young adult male with no problems.its crazy to think my insurance was running up at least 1k a year to now 1.4k a year. And this is from a solid 6 years of driving. >>83648481your generation grew up on easy mood old man. you would be a cry baby bitch just like all of us if you weren't get paid for shit. which you did get paid shit. you just didn't bat an eye lol. got cheaped out on when it couldve been your generation that can make some change.
>>83648223It isn't about things being expensive. All previous generations (except boomers and genX) were poor as fuck.The real reason is because there are no communities nor family goals for long term dreaming.Most men realized they're undesirable, and nothing will change that.
>>83648481you will be surrounded by helpless geriatrics while the zoomers leave you behind to die
>>83648223They incorrectly believe they can leech from their parents and make it work for their lifetimes living frugallyThey're in for some brutal awakening
>>83648235I knew this was the only wise option back in 2012 and im 34 now.If any millennial got swindled by the notion that they should just "work hard" and get a good life going, (you) my post and tell me about it.Im glad I knew the only option was not to play along time ago.
>>83648661zoomers are dumb af and they should start feeling bad about it I guarantee you them being stupid is the problem, teachers will not teach zoomers it's like unheard of.
>>83648677and what awakening is that? going from no bank account and no money and no friends and no life to the same thing except now homeless? lol.you act like we're going from riches to homelessness. the only perk of living with your parents is the roof and food, otherwise there is nothing else. there's no pocket money, there's no leaving the house, there's no having anyone over, there is no life.Our parents have allowed us to not be homeless, that's it.
>>83648677lol this dumb retard hasn't realized on who struggles the hardest. is it the ones bro living with mom and dad getting moms and dad help? or is it gen z adults who are already out of the house working?
>>83648347There hasn't been a corporate ladder for over 20 years. They hire you for the position they hire you for. If they wanted you doing something else, they would've hired you for that.
>>83648643No, for me, it's about cost of living. I have to eat and need a roof over my head
>>83648677That's only really a problem if your parents are poor. Someone who inherits a home and a few million from parents will be better off than some guy who worked hard grinding from nothing.
>>83648223damn, that's crazy. perhaps if we import 100,000,000 racist brown retards to parasitize all the white collar industries and suppress wages and defraud our welfare systems things will all work out in the end.
>>83648849I have lived with minimum wage just fine, given I lived a very frugal life, not getting doordash every day.People manage and prosper but only when they have a goal, even in times of war and famine, and as social creatures, having a community/family worth sacrificing yourself has always been the goal for most people.
>>83648914>Indians are the only people willing to work hard>Americans get shocked that they're getting hired over themSucks to suck, bitch man
>>83648928NoPay me more
>>83648938>bro just compete with Rashed Pranjeet who's willing to work for pennies because jeets have no concept of human rights >what, you refuse? Heh, get replaced, its your fault
not going to redeem the stinky, shit stained (You) i just got
>>83648953microsoft, the most successful and monopolistic computer industry ON EARTH, makes a business of hiring jeets.suddenly, for no reason at all, their #1 operating system stops working and people flock to linux of all things LMAOa real puzzle, that one.i wonder how many more planes Boeing is willing to let crash before they flush those diarrhea dump dalits onto the streets of new delhi
>>83648347Entry level jobs are now given to mid level employees with AI assistance. The bottom step of that ladder is gone and also it stops halfway.
>>83648434I enjoy being able to afford nice things, especially the luxury of returning the same criticism and bombardment they subjected me to for decades right back to their faces. It's a hell of a rush, especially when you rub it back into their faggot faces that they failed to kill you, or that you're actually succeeding on your own terms in spite of their handicaps.And the most hilarious part is, my parents have made me the "designated responsible person" for their estate since literally nobody else is competent or trustworthy enough to execute it. And this is in spite of me striking back over and over again. Really, I don't like them much, but the potential to royally piss off the extended family later on is worth it to me.
>>83648223>be lazy>can't afford shit>bust your ass>still can't afford shit
What, exactly, do young have to work towards?We'll never own a home, over half of us haven't touched a pussy since we were born and our Governments openly despise us.So what, precisely, should motivate young men to be more productive tax cattle?
>>83648245huh? it's called roommates dumbass. Living alone is for people with a triple digit IQ
>>83649148oh also>all your entertainment is all getting more and more expensive each day because Nvidia wants to build a data center and wants a trillion dollars in proft>cars more expensive>PCs more expensive>electronics you care about more expensiveso not only do you not have shit to work for socially, your luxuries are also being taken away and your entertainment is being attacked from all sides.
>>83648223I've already accepted I'm not making it and it's not worth living to be old. I can't afford to keep up with life's massive subscription fee forever, so eventually I'll just run out of money and have to KYS myself, probably in the next few years.
>>83649067that looks like too much effort to read, I'm sorry
>>83649189NTA butWhy are people so accepting of what's happening? Every day our expectations get lower and we just shrug our shoulders as prices rise. It'll start with just get a bunch of roommates or live with parents at fucking 30, and then spiral into pod living with no doors.Even if you're in a relationship, the cuckery doesn't end. Friend of mine lives with not only his gf but also two other people just to make rent.
>>83648347I made 30k holding paper silver over the last ten days, I deserve far more than 80k if this is how easy it is to make it.
>>83649254notice how the government doesn't announce anything either? there could be an asteroid hit in the middle of the country and the government would just act like it's another day and everything is fine and everyone keep working and they would post how good the stock market is doing.
>>83649231I'm not. I put in effort into my life, I reap the rewards. And I will happily kick all the lazy faggots while they're down to make sure they know it.
>>83649254The fuck you gonna do about it?
>>83649283is it okay if I put effort into stealing it from you? effort begets effort so in theory it should be okay. surely you never stole from anyone?
Dunno. I'm 23 and I'm thinking of taking the trade pill.>but your bodyOnly applies to boomertards who refuse to workout and eat healthy.I'm sick of working security. The pay sucks and I hate interacting with my fake ass employees, I want to make real money with my efforts, and I enjoy fixing shit anyways, so. I was going to do mechanical engineering, but I hated CAD shit in HS and mech engineering is nothing but CAD with a mix of physics. Then it was cybersecurity, electrical engineering, then mechatronics which sounds like a jack of all trades kind of deal that pays like shit in the end. It's either the tradepill or work minimum wage for life. I dunno. I'm probably fucked.
>>83649254because living alone is a really new thing. For most of history, for most of the past 100 years, people lived together.
>>83649306Can't say I ever stole anything beyond some lazy faggots' satisfaction of watching me fail when they were telling me I would never amount to anything. A\
>>83648481You fix it then, old man. Oh wait, you can't because you have arthritis in your back and your knees are bent out of shape.
>>83649361>only did shit out of vengeance doesn't have authentic artistic drive>probably doesn't even have a skillokay bud, keep jackin yourself off.
>>83649316>He thinks he's exempt from the realities of trade labor.Go ahead and do it but get the fuck out the second you hit 32
>>83649326Tell that to parents who kick you out the second they're legally allowed to. Roommate searching has not been going well, had to move in with my cousin
>>83649386I have a career. You're a useless NEET on 4chan. Motivation, aka Vengeance, is fucking awesome.
>>83649430life can be hard zoomie, stop using social media
>>83649532Then don't complain when the birthrates drop.
>>83648928>I have lived with minimum wage just fine, given I lived a very frugal life, not getting doordash every daynice larp faggot, you obviously still live with your parents. try to find a single place in the us where the minimum wage is at or above the living wage... (protip: you can't)https://livingwage.mit.edu
>>83649464wow you have a career, wow! who gives a shit, literally no one. you do nothing for no one and your skill is to come here and jack off about it. lmao.
>>83649571I make time to volunteer weekly at the local soup kitchen. See tons of entitled assholes like you there all the time. Maybe I'll see you there soon for your meager slop portion.
>>83649600sure ya do bud. take your passionless self over to the local gay bar and get railed with your freedom dollars, all you're good for.
>>83649619>passionlessReal rich coming from the likes of you who can't even scrounge together the minimal motivation to get off your ass to be barely functional like the rest of the population is expected to. Not d0xxing myself, but my work is actually useful to humanity beyond making the hekkin moneyline go up. I even have the extra energy to turn my hobby into a "side gig" which paid for my college and that I continue doing because I enjoy it, not to mention it fulfills my duty to ensure the poors can never own nice things.
>>83649754didn't read. you're just rambling gayly now. i don't have to worry about what i'm doing in life, i'm very fulfilled.you on the other hand need to go to gay bar and get topped, it's obvious.
>>83649767>still responding to get the last word inYes, very fulfilled. Much satisfied. Wow.
>>83649559We will just replace you with muds and niggers
>>83649326For most of history we also treated women like property instead of equals, so when do we get to bring that back?
>>83649870>mutt historyPlease do tell us of these horrible periods you tranny teacher told you about. These terrible time women were forced to go to war and toil in the fields were terrifying
I don't think this is a new thing. Why do you think hood/trailer people spend their time on welfare, drinking and doing crime? Because the people there see no point in participating. The media only cares because it is happening to the middle class now.
>>83649862Why do anons seem to want problems to get worse?
>>83648223>remove carrot from stick>"why aren't they chasing it?"I'll be doomed to always have to live with a roommate or a girlfriend so it's hard for me to care.
>>83648223What did all these analysists expect? Why the fuck would anyone put maximum effort into obtaining and working a job that will never pay them enough to have basic necessities in life? The cost of living is way too high. What is the governments goal, here? Are they really banking on AI taking over the workforce THIS much? Is that why they're inflating this sector so much? They'd rather have an automated line of production and services instead of just creating new policies that put an end to this engineered recession economy. No, the lobbying corporate oligarchs are paying them too much to do that. Fuck this world, man. Once we're all replaced, then what? The worst part is that if this AI bubble bursts, we all have to pay for it.
>>83650575>The worst part is that if this AI bubble bursts, we all have to pay for it.Not me lol
>>83650610Everyone will, man. It would cause a market crash. Everyone would panic sell their shares as a response to the tech bubble collapsing and there would be a ton of debt that needs to be paid.
>>83648223>join a new company>company is doing well>a bunch of people get laid off before they get their christmas bonuses>well at least my team wasn't impacted>found out one of my team members is also getting let go>mfwThere's just no point. Even if you perform well, even if the company is doing well, and even if your role is still needed, the higher-ups will find a way to squeeze out more profit and make everything worse.
>>83648953I'm not a jeet but I work remotely for some american company. In the end guys like me are also getting fucked because even though the american company pays about 45 USD an hour for my work, I only get 8 dollars an hour because there's a middle man who takes almost everything.I hate how I have to work like crazy so some old man can take the money, I plan on leaving this job and stop working for other people as soon as I can, I want my own business, fuck this shit.
>>83648223what am I supposed to be working hard for?
>>83648223I am working full time, i also do plebty of overtime just to cruise by and i live with roomates mind you.Whats the use of worning yourself to death when>i will never be able to afford a home>i wilm never have a wife and kids>i will never get promoted>i will never get a raise>i will never be able to emigrateSo tf am i supposed to do. Wageslave for nothing until i die
>>83649787>spends all this time yapping instead of being productiveShut the fuck up and get back to "work" if you're so important wannawagie
>>83648347>You start off at the bottom and climb to the topDoesnt happen. 20% of people on my site are getting fired this year and replaced by indians
>>83648938>here are those highly skilled Indian workers we need to beat China and win the AI race I was telling you about
>>83648223Because I earn 90k and live in Australia.If I get qualified and get 40k in debt, I am entitled to earning 110k in my industry. There is no point in progression, because the small amount more money I could make is meaningless compared to the infinite amount more stress. People in Australia only actually earn money if they work in mining or healthcare. For me to actually earn more and make it worth it, I would have to spend another half decade of my life dealing with fuck ass universities, huge crippling debt, and dumbass professors who thinks they are God's gift for explaining the Socratic method to a fucking medicine major. Fuck off.I am not a leader and my ambition is to not work. I don't care for stress, I don't want to suck some stupid American corporate dick that will happily outsource me the moment they see a sniff of savingsSo give me an incentive - any incentive. I used to break my balls at work, all I got was more stress and more work. These days I work from home and spend 2/3 of my day playing video games
>>83648223>What is causing this?Did you even read the image that you posted OP? It literally says what is causing this. >they do not think it is worth it if they cannot afford long-term financial goals.
>>83649254better dead than red.ive been taught well. i will never do anything to hurt my poor wittle bilionaires
>>83652098You walk in lock-step with the billionaires supporting open borders though. Weird, that.
>>83648938Why can they never work hard enough to make India something other than a pile of trash and feces? Huh, it's almost as if this is threadbare justification for virtual slave labor.
>>83648223if you do less labor, you are being exploited lesspeople will work harder if they aren't, because there will actually be a point to that work
>>83648223because copro jews got too greedy. nobody wants to chase a dollar sign anymore.
>>83648938Americans are about to face the harsh truth of the fact that nationalism and racism are not just edgy philosophies for incels, but practical methods of economic stability. They spent the last 50 years carefully erasing every notion of american exceptionalism and now they're shocked when corporations ship millions of browns into their countries for cheaper labor. Whoops.
>>83648223Society is simply incapable of providing work where I never have to interact or even be in the same room as another person. I can only work hard if I am not being observed or under imminent threat of observation
I accidentally costed my last workplace a few hundred thousand from just lying about inventory and im getting sued