I have decided to remove all of the blackberry bushes from my city.Wish me luck.
>>83655953It would be easier to move, wouldn't it?
>>83655953Whats wrong with blackberry bushes they are quite nice, and you can eat the berries too.
>>83655953Is that even legal where you live? Also wild blackberries are pretty cool and a nice snack.
>>83655953hope you got some good gloves and a chainmail shirt or its gonna be a bad time
>>83655975>Whats wrong with blackberry bushesThey prevent movement through forests.>>83656015>Is that even legal where you live?Yes. As long as it is public property. Even if it is illegal I don't care.
>>83655953Please just dig them up and give them to people or replant them. That would be a huge waste of a food bearing plant
>>83656077>They prevent movement through forestsThere are tons of plants that do this. What, are you going to go through your local trails with a machete and chop down every thorny bush you see? Waste of time. They'll literally just grow back next year.
>>83656192Wasting your time. OP is clearly a retard who tried to run through the forest without any protective gear and now he has a vendetta against nature.
>>83656211>Waste of time. They'll literally just grow back next year.I have unlimited free time since I am NEET. >>83656226Blackberries are an invasive species.
>>83656276So are humans. What's your point? Even if you managed to remove every living specimen from your city there are still millions of seeds in the ground. You'd need to do it every year for a decade. Otherwise you cannot win.
you're going to genocide the birds, please think this through thoroughly
Im apparently immune to poison ivy so I'd collect the berries and spread them. Kudzu is my favorite plant, I seen a vine strangle a sleeping dog to death once. By the time Fido woke up it was already too late. Truly incredible plant. Glyphosate resistant hogweed is fun to guerilla plant in monocropper fields. If you have friends who live in the suburb bring some bamboo and chuck it into a neighbors yard next time you visit. Only takes a few weeks not noticing before it completely takes over. It's impossible to remove once it takes hold. Ecoterrorists had it all wrong. Gaia can take care of herself. At most you just give her a boost. You can just buy dandelion seeds on the internet. The leaves are edible, roots are edible, flowers can even make a wine. And it makes earthhaters shit themselves with rage. You don't need fertilizer bombs, just mix up some clay, dirt, and seeds. Johnny appleseed was the first ecoterrorist and his methods are, still the best.
>>83656309>You'd need to do it every year for a decade.Sounds like a good employment opportunity.>>83656340They have other sources of food and can just fly somewhere else.
I like blackberries they are tasty
>>83656411>Sounds like a good employment opportunityExcept no one is going to pay you to do this.
Eternity lies ahead of us, and behind. Have you drunk your fill?
>NNNNNOOOOOOOO!!!! I NEED TO REPLACE A FOOD SOURCE WITH SHITTY POISONOUS PLANTS BECAUSE...JUST BECAUSE OKAY!!??>>83656410>KudzuOkay, I would love to plant that here since it's an ultimate food source, but fuck is it so invasive. I went to a relatives once and saw how it strangled everything and even covered a complete hillside. After seeing that ,I'm not taking chances with it. I have plenty of other good plants around to use that spread a lot but don't kill off everything else just to overtake.
>>83656510There are other food plants out there. Blackberries choke out everything.They are an invasive species that needs to be removed.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubus_armeniacus#Spread
>>83656537>Nonetheless, the plant rarely impedes large-scale construction or agricultural practicesYou might want to read your source before citing it. It is not as invasive as you think. You're focusing on that specific species Armenian blackberry. >Pacific NorthwestAww, the shittiest of the states so far removed from nature but RREEEEEs about returning everything to nature. No wonder why you want to kill it. You might want to rethink it. That particular species is excellent in intaking CO2 compared to other species of blackberries.
>>83655975>>83656211>>83656309>>83656510Where I live, Seattle, Himalayan Blackberries are one of the absolute worst and most widespread invasive species around. They are spread by birds, by vehicles along roadways, and by floods washing living canes downstream.They're living, expanding barbed wire that choke the life out of everything. Mature specimens grow a new set of two inch-thick or more canes every year. The canes have thick, sharp triangular thorns which not only hurt anyone who isn't careful with them, but also interlock with other canes to form a dense mesh. All the previous year's canes die but remain in place as dried pointy husks. If left to themselves they will choke out everything smaller than a medium sized tree, and form impenetrable thickets of nearly solid thorny canes up to 12 feet tall if freestanding, or much taller if they're able to crawl up the side of a building or tree or something.Himalayan blackberries are an absolute scourge and should be destroyed whenever possible. Unfortunately, I can tell you as someone who has spent years removing them professionally, they are extremely difficult to kill.As a food source they DO produce large, tasty berries. However they produce everything all at once, and 99% of the berries just fall on the ground and rot because they can't be reached within the thick tangle of thorny canes, not even by rats or small birds. Compare that to berries of a diverse mix of native species, which are easily accessible and come in one at a time all summer long. The Pacific Northwest has a naive blackberry species, the trailing blackberry, which produces smaller and fewer but MUCH tastier berries, AND exist in balance with other species. There are also commercial cultivars of blackberry which produce bigger, more abundant, and FAR tastier berries than Himalayans- some are even thornless! I have some Marionberries and Triple Crowns in my backyard which are both great.Thank you for your service OP. Kill em all
>>83656510The important thing is area denial. They chose it because thing japan :o and fighting erosion. Turns out it actually worked and was good, that's why they hate it now. Diligent stewards will manage just fine. The pain inflicted on them is worse than we suffer. They thought it would be ineffective and they could just pretend to be doing something. I hope they choke on the tendrils and die. For your own New Eden there are probably better choices. If they aren't friends then they are enemies, in that case killing off is exactly what we want.>>83656537Like Bradford Pear? Let's plant them everywhere and make sure to eliminate clover. >>83656669Osage orange is a cool plant too, except the fruit is shit and useless. Unfortunately it doesn't spread as easily as others.
>>83656646>You're focusing on that specific species Armenian blackberry.Yes that's the point. Rubus ursinus is not invasive, it's a beloved native blackberry. Rubus armeniacus and Rubus laciniatus are bad.>>Pacific Northwest>Aww, the shittiest of the states so far removed from nature but RREEEEEs about returning everything to nature.Wow, you're so ignorant it hurts The PNW is unmatched for closeness to nature, that's one of this area's main draws. People visit and move here from all over to be closer to nature than wherever they came from. In terms of all the development indicators like GDP per capita, HDI, etc the PNW is very high on the list as well.And invasive blackberry species are NOT natural- in fact they prevent natural environments from developing normally by choking out native species.>That particular species is excellent in intaking CO2 compared to other species of blackberries.At the cost of destroying the local ecology, including conifer regeneration which would sequester carbon better and for much much longer. Blackberry canes rot and return their carbon to the air over the course of several years, a native conifer will store far more carbon for 1000+ years.Pic related, an invasion of rubus armeniacus which is chocking out the native understory (note the few surviving ferns at the bottom of the image) and preventing conifer regeneration.
Wish this tree had a broader range. They should grow in every suburb and city neighborhood.
>>83656669You are in Seattle as well? We should help each other clean up all of the blackberry thorns. They are such a nuisance.
>>83656891I am in Seattle. I occasionally host volunteer events through the Green Seattle Partnership, if you see one in Camp Long which isn't hosted by a middle aged woman, that's me. I'll probably hold an event in early February but in the meantime the Green Seattle Partnership has events all the time. You can destroy invasives in a systematic way and get free snacks and stuff
>>83656918>You can destroy invasives in a systematic way and get free snacks and stuffOkay good. I was doing it myself today.
>>83656448>Except no one is going to pay you to do this.You don't understand the PNW and its culture. We actually care about nature here and value environments free from invasive species. I removed blackberry (mostly, some other weeds too) professionally for 4 years. There are absolutely job opportunities for this here because keeping natural areas and farmlands free from these weeds is a big deal.>>83656984Speaking of jobs, if you're age 18-25 and need a job you should check out the Washington Conservation Corps. Put on your application that you want to destroy blackberries and they'll hire you
>>83657037Not OP but interesting if true. I'd love to get paid to do this.
>>83657268I was in the WCC for 2 years and destroyed a lot of blackberry. You should definitely check it out, it's great job experience, you can get free certifications (pesticide license, chainsaws, wilderness first aid, etc), and they give you free money for college if you finish your term. Some crews focus on ecological restoration, while others do trail work or chainsaw work.
>>83657037>tfw too old
>>83657857If you're a military vet you can join at any age. Otherwise tough luck
>>83657857>I shall not confront Planet as an enemy, but shall accept its mysteries as gifts to be cherished. Nor shall I crudely seek to peel the layers away like the skin from an onion. Instead I shall gather them together as the tree gathers the breeze. The wind shall blow and I shall bend. The sky shall open and I shall drink my fill.Look at the definitions. It's such bullshit. Invasive species, noxious weed, weed. And yet extraordinary amounts of energy is spent on killing insects and plants and animals. Fake and gay prison planet. It's all arbitrary. There's no logic to it. If it's ugly and bad and foreign it's called good. If it produces fruit, is useful, supports life, is good, they call it bad. Shitting their pants over crabgrass, then killing each other to defend bringing monsters from Africa into a different continent and trying to call it human rights. If it's OK to destroy plants then it's OK to destroy humans. Plants don't steal, kill, rape, commit fraud, or lie. Minnesota should be setting off alarms. This is indefensible. But for some reason somalians are seen as having more value than a "noxious weed".
>>83656669Based. Good luck, Anon
fking hate blackberries, good luck anons, ive been tearing some out in a nature reserve nearby and been replacing them with the raspberries that were also growing there, desu i think the balckberries will grow back with 0 fucks given but at least ive halted them a little while, maybe give the raspberries some time to take over, counted 6+ different blackberries, dont care which are native desu. also been dropping anise hyssop everywhere, ive posted about it here before, if you go out in nature, have some hyssop seeds with you, they help pollinators a lot and are quite hardy, one plant gives hundreds of seeds so its easy to multiply exponentially
>>83658044Sorry gramps but I think you're lost, go find your facebook group and post this off-topic unhinged rant there
>>83656891Im from seattle tooLet's do it
I am in Seattle too and like harvest them to make jam
>>83658728>like harvest them toNice English.You are definitely a Seattle resident LMAO!
>>83658172Did you try to pull out the roots and destroy them? Blackberries can pretty much come back from cuttings.
>>83660264yeah i just yanked em out with gloves on, far as i was able, didnt go digging around, its a dog trail in the nature reserve thing, and i just stealthily yank em when im out with the dog, hang them in trees to dry out and die cause i dont want to bring them home or be caught with em, the fines are quite high lol
Godspeed OP
>>83655953only have native blackberries in my southeast yard get rekt OP. I have gone to war with Chinese Wisteria though
Well aright, good luck op
Fuck the retards ITT, you're based OP. Total Invasive Death