>think of nude femboy assGet diamonds instantly>think of a nude hot chicks assFeel nothing Is it over? I am only romantically attracted to women, never had a crush on a man etc. Is this what a decade of porn abuse does? Is there any hope to be normal and like women's pussies?
You're basing these thoughts on your interest in a simulacrum of a simulacrum of a simulacrum. You are three times removed from normal human life in this respect. If porn is a large part of your sexuality, you're like a schizophrenic making soap carvings in a padded room
>>83661485yes correct it is about too much fapping to the point of needing something more 'new' and 'exciting' walk away from porn and it should set you back to normal
Same except for me it has always been like that for me. The idea of having sex didn't seem enticing to me until I saw a femboy's ass + balls that was and still is the only way I feel this intense primal lust.
>>83661485Stop fapping to porn for a while.I am being serious, it does shit to your brain.
>>83661572But you have no IRL experience with a woman so you have no idea You have IRL experience with a male sex organ so when you see it in a computer you make the connection
>>83661672Not OP but I went 2 months without porn and my attraction stayed the same
>>83662062Then I suppose you like femboys.Why not just fap away or try to bang one?Also, sometimes the fantasy is 100x better than the real thing, and maybe once you try some femboy ass/mouth, you'll realize that you don't actually like it.
>>83661517Very good post in a very unexpected place.
>>83661485Spare a bit of sauce my good sir, I need it for my spaghetti
>>83662234I mean I just know that my sexuality is real, but porn isn't, the way I get sexual relief through unrealities is unnatural, and whatever preference for unreality arises out of this obviously does not track back onto reality Stuff like prison gay and cuckoldry and futanari fetish and wanting to fuck furries and animals just comes from taking the path of least resistance to noveltymaxxing your unreal stimuli. The idea of vanilla porn is already weird as fuck when you consider the voyeur aspect. Even nudes or solo strip shows doesn't make any sense from a human perspective. We would be aroused by the way that our wife playfully walks in front of us, or by the way that light catches in her eye, or the way she has a dimple when she smiles, etc. The scaffolding is there for us to fetishize things in a "normal" way but if you're ostracized from society and have nothing to do other than sit in a room alone, your subconscious is marinading in perverted internet freak nonsense gobbledygook, is it any surprise that people like OP come away from it thinking they wouldn't be able to get it up for the image of a woman? It was already bizarre when it was just the image of a stranger he's never met in person. His unreal sexuality has grown up like a vine through a lattice of internet porn algorithms and aggregates. If he becomes a normie and starts dating a girl and a few months in they start having sex, the real stimuli is something completely different. Her hand on his thigh or the way her hair smells is gonna have him uncontrollably hard. But because that's more natural than non-reality, he won't be stupefied by it and wondering how this has happened to him
>>83661485Bi-curious or just bisexual. You might learn to love men later or you might not. Who knows.>>83661517Or he's experimenting with his sexuality in the least scary way he can.It's absotively posilutely fine to find attractive guys attractive and to be reluctant to act on those feelings. However it is not okay to never pursue a relationship at all. Men or women, make some moves.
>>83661485unironically just don't view ANY porn for about a month>b-but I d-d-don-Don't lie. Give up porn for a month. Your normal sexual attractions will return. I didn't say nofap, I said noporn. Jerk off solely to vanilla pictures of hot chicks, nothing hardcore, and only when you feel spontaneously horny, not because it's your daily/thrice-daily scheduled jerk-off time.THIS IS YOUR DECISION YOU DUMB FAG. YOU CAN BE NORMAL WITH A MODICUM OF EFFORT BUT CHOOSE NOT TO BE.
>>83662562>Or he's experimenting with his sexuality in the least scary way he can.A lifetime of being warped by hardcore porn not being considered scary is evidence of how absolutely fucked everything is. You probably don't even think the image you posted is "that" abnormal.
>>83661485basedi wanna get guys super hard using my ass desu
>>83662333>a-actually it's a g-good thing he's trained on fake bullshitHe just won't be able to fuck because real life isn't porn.
>>83662678Too much convergence between the unreality sex life and your actual life leads to the phenomenon of trannies, agp, and any other form of sex addictHe can't delineate where his fake sex life stops and his IRL life begins. He thinks that porn is "experimenting with sexuality" and punctuates it with porn, because he is porn, his mind is porn, he has become porn. He wants more porn. At the expense of the will and the lives of real people IRL, his only objective is to increase the amount of porn in the world
>>83662745You can't read, I didn't say it's a good thing."I'm not able to fuck" is not something that someone who doesn't have access to a pussy can even say in full confidence.
>>83662779>addictTheir behavior really is the same regardless of the drug, isn't it
>>83662779>>83662678Are you two having a stroke?
am i still straight if it's erect dicks (*on a femboy*, not a masc man) that do it for me?
>>83662825>am i still straight if i'm aroused by the same sex?No. The good news is that porn absolutely changes your proclivities over time and there's potential that that can be undone by giving it up.
>>83662839i'm still attracted to the female body, it's just that a dick on it makes me cumi don't like looking at a dick on a manly man's body
Female bodies don't have dicks.
>>83662062that's nothing. people nowadays have been looking at porn almost daily for 10, 15 years. your brain has basically been rewired. you think it'll only take 8 weeks to repair?
>>83663097it happens faster than you think, it's just that by that point some changes are permanent and you'll never know who you could've been, and also that most "attempts" at noporn are given up anywhere between 18 hours and two days later, or the person is still browsing 4chan and getting exposed to porn constantly even if they're not jackin' it.
>>83661485when i was younger i looked at porn a lot and it rewired my brain like this. since 2022 i overall fap a lot less and rarely look at porn at all. when i do, i have a hard limit of only straight or lesbian hentai doujins. for the most part ive managed to recollect my sanity, but once in a blue moon even without porn i still fap to the imagining of femboy or tranny hentai. its like a brainworm that cant really be cleansed once its begun infestation
>>83663188mother of god this took so long to post this new captcha is retarded i swear it didnt take like 7 tries before
>>83663188Yeah, I know that feel. A while ago my boylust reappeared all of a sudden after like a decade, for no apparent reason. I was busy with a lot of work those months and had done nothing to trigger it. I guess some of us are just naturally bisexual or something, because otherwise sexuality is some fucking magic we have no control over.
>>83661485sauce for this pic? yandex cant find it
>>83663308>reprogram your brain with years of porn use>"I guess we just don't have any control."
>>83663346This doesn't work and isn't a thing otherwise there wouldn't be so many relapsed gays that went through anti gay therapy, and I would find women tolerable enough to pretend to be straight but I don't even after decades of exposing myself to stroid porn
>>83663346Yes but it was many years ago in my case, and I left it behind. My brain should have moved past it, not be telling me to go back to fetishes from over a decade ago.
>>83663393you essentially molested yourself and conditioned your brain to like some things permanently. Abstaining from porn can help you also appreciate other things, but the damage is already done and you carved a perment spot in your brain for deranged stuff too get you off.
I wish I could meet a trans girl IRL so I know if they are that sexy irl
i could get off porn easily in the past few years, jacked it maybe once every 1-2 weeks at most, and when i did it was either to my imagination, or just to pics of naked women.that was because i had hope.now that i have lost that hope i indulge in all of the nasty shit i used to consume back in the day. i got nothing better to do. it's either that or daily weed/alcohol use
>>83663619hope for what? what did you feel like was lacking that leaning into hedonism was preferable?
>>83662818Normal english is being used here. You are actually coping
>>83662333>His unreal sexuality has grown up like a vine through a lattice of internet porn algorithms and aggregates. I had forgotten completely what I was plagiarizing from. I read this book last year. It's the size of Moby Dick but that single sentence is basically the only salient point that stuck
>>83663666hope that i could make friends and there was one person in particular that gave me hope of the unimaginable, an intimate connection. but its over now. i flew too close to the sun
>>83661485Maybe because you get off to the fact that hooking up with a tranny would be easier. Other than that idk, i prefer women and i've watched a ton of porn. There are some hot tranny scenes but it's nowhere near as good as the best porn with a solo woman.
>>83661672the attraction doesnt come from porn addiction, it comes from high T.
>>83663784yeah i'll go on tranny porn benders looking for specific niche scenarios and as soon as i go back to any video of an actual woman i'm forced to admit "fuck she's hot." women are just better, i'd probably be way better off if i just didn't jack it to any porn.
>>83663805>high T causes me to want to fuck this thing with zero feminine traitsYou're just a fag a pederast or most likely both.
>>83663671I understand the words but in this particular order everything is retarded. Attraction and disgust are reflexes that you do not shake off or develop because of porn. A straight dude sees a pretty boi and goes ugh gross, that is always the reaction. Some guys see pretty bois and go oh, sexy wait does this mean I'm gay? I don't want to be a gay! Because labels! And fags! You look for things that trigger your attraction reflex, the things you look at do not determine what your reflexes are.
>>83663814nigga you are gay as fuck. >>83663784it's not easier. it's waaaay easier to get with a cute girl than with a sexually attractive tranny or femboy. and your experience wit ha girl is likely going to be far more enjoyable than with the troon.
>you're gay as fuck if you don't want to fuck guysnever change
>>83663850>i-i-it's a guy!retarded cope. yes you are gaaaaaay
>>83663805Goddamn I'd kiss this dude hard while blowing ropes into him.
>>83663805> it comes from high Tyou guys will make up any excuse to sound masculine while also denying that you're gay, holy shit I can't believe how retarded it's all become
>>83663824So you understand what's being said, but you think it's wrong because it doesn't conform to your random, unjustified beliefs about psychology? We're not talking about a normal person's reaction to a prettyboy, or even a beautiful woman. We're talking about a human being, a so-called social animal, behaving in a way that is entirely antisocial and resembles scrying into a black mirror more than interacting with someone he's attracted to.>A straight dude sees a pretty boi and goes ugh gross, that is always the reaction.I'm telling you if he sees a woman and starts literally gooning then he's not straight, as in, "straight" like "on the straight and narrow." There's something perverted and wrong with his behavior. >Some guys see pretty bois and go oh, sexy wait does this mean I'm gay?You mean some guys see porn and start fucking gooning. >You look for things that trigger your attraction reflex,You're not attracted to a computer screen. You're having a wank to a fantasy, at best. Do you think there's a built in "attraction reflex" for computer autists to seek out their deranged fetishes that border on silly with how absurd they are? Like giant women stepping on them, with fat women the size of weather balloons, thomas the tank engine, et cetera?
>>83663916If he was actually gay wouldn't he be having gay sex with men in his personal life? Why is there so much cope in this thread trying to deny the fact that these people are addicted to porn
>>83664003>heokGay is a one drop rule thing, humanity has always (rightfully) viewed banging dudes as embarrassing, so it doesn't really matter if you also want to bang chicks. You're still a fag.
>>83663824>Attraction and disgust are reflexes that you do not shake off or develop because of pornlmao
>>83664003If he's gay then he's attracted to men.>Why is there so much cope in this thread trying to deny the fact that these people are addicted to pornI also want to know the answer to this, as that was what I said initially.
>>83663824>Attraction and disgust are reflexes that you do not shake off or develop because of porn.Are you retarded? Have you seen the kind of shit addicts will do for a fix? You can absolutely reprogram your brain to not give a shit about things that used to horrify you.
>>83661485the way to know if you're truly gay or just porn addicted is to look back on your porn taste history. for example, the earliest porn i looked at was women. when i discovered femboys i thought "ew anuses are yucky" and similar copes like that, but i couldn't help but peek at them again and again. at some point i folded and femboys became the only porn i looked at, and it stayed that way ever since. there were many other kinds of porn, like futa and buff dudes, but i never got the same temptation that i got for femboys. if i was porn addicted i'd have moved on from fetish to fetish a long time ago, but because i stuck with femboys for such a long time now, i'm pretty sure this is just my natural inclination, aka i'm gay or bi. i'm still closeted and never had real gay sex even though i dream of plapping bussy everyday
>>83664078>aka i'm gay or bi. i'm still closeted and never had real gay sex even though i dream of plapping bussy everydaySame here. At a point, femboys just became something else that aroused me just like any woman would.
>>83664030You were the one who engendered the posters as "guys" to begin with, so >humanity has always (rightfully) viewed banging dudes as embarrassing, so it doesn't really matter if you also want to bang chicks.You're banging nothing. You're telling me that left and right banging is going on in this society of undersexed morons? What you're being is a pervert. Words like straight and gay don't even cut through to explain this behavior. You're having a wank, not even to a fantasy that you've obsessed over in your own mind, but to something that was streamlined to you from data sorting algorithms of internet porn aggregates. >>83664039>If he's gay then he's attracted to men.Fair enough, but a computer screen is not a man >>83664078Isn't there a recording of the mindgeek or pornhub guys whatever where they go into detail about how it's in their interest to "manufacture degeneracy" almost because porn wouldn't have a reason to exist if it was all just visual masturbation aids? That's apparently why the whole site from the beginning is inundated with plastic bimbos, stebfamily incest shit, anal sex, etc >if i was porn addicted i'd have moved on from fetish to fetish a long time ago, but because i stuck with femboys for such a long time now,This is like saying "if I was an alcoholic I'd have moved on from wine to vodka to whiskey, but because I stuck with wine for so long I'm not an alcoholic" >i'm pretty sure this is just my natural inclinationCongratulations you looked into a screen so hard you psyopped yourself into thinking the screen is your entire reality
>>83664135>You were the one who engendered the posters as "guys" to begin with, so
>>83664135i'm not sure what the alternative you're proposing is. fapping multiple times a day every day is really bad, but i see nothing to suggest that fapping once every two or three days is any kind of bad. full nofap has no proven scientific benefits, it's pseudoscience. it doesn't even motivate you to go out there and have sex, it just temporarily neuters you. if you want to min-max things like testosterone production, fapping once a week is ideal. but i don't even know if what you're saying relates to masturbation. are you telling us to be good christians and get a wife and have 12 kids? tell us what your agenda is, because mine is just to fap and feel good once in a while to slightly make up for the fact that society set me up for chronic loneliness
>>83664192i don't know if anyone here has recommended nofap instead of noporn, you just can't seem to separate fapping from porn
>>83662562>However it is not okay to never pursue a relationship at all.Fuck off
>>83664210noporn is an entirely new concept to me. it's common knowledge that nofap was the meme that spread everywhere on the internet, not noporn. you're being intellectually dishonest, which explains why you still haven't elaborated as to what the ideal sexual behavior for a human being to have is. if you believe it's noporn, can you elaborate on that? what benefits does it have over using porn? does it somehow help motivate lonely individuals to prioritize real life encounters due to the lack of masturbatory aid? i'm throwing you a bone here man, try something
>>83664038>>83664063Yeah, bro is attracted to pretty bois as a reflex and instead of plowing one himself he copes with denial and porn - his cooming hitting him with dopamine every time he finishes himself thinking about smooth boi cake that he can't get enough of but is too afraid of to actually chase. >>83663989I'm not reading all that but congratulations or condolences or whatever.
>>83662562>it is not okay to never pursue a relationship at allokay so how about i just>try grindr and risk getting raped and/or catch one of many std's>go to the bar and embarrass myself because no one is here to socialize with anyone but their friends and cold approaches never work>lose my job because dating a co-worker is the worst sin imaginable apparentlyyeah, like >>83664225 said, fuck off. tell us how you got your relationship(s), otherwise you're not helping anyone, just pouring salt on wounds.
>>83664225You deserve better anon. Be nicer to yourself.
>>83661485>is it over?dont know, dont care. give sauce for pic of kys.
>>83664254>you're being dishonest because you said something different from what i've heard in the pastokI'm not even the anon you asked what the "ideal sexual beavior" is but for the average person it's monogamous family building sex. sex builds your closeness to your partner and multiple partners damages your ability to pair bond. porn just sets your brain up to prefer unrealistic stimuli and damages your ability to enjoy intimacy with human partners.
>>83664290I know I do. I know I deserve better than to put up with some nagging whore or unwanted children.
>>83664286You are not the first dude to like dudes and also want a traditional monogamous relationship. You are not alone, just, like you kinda got close to, pick where you look carefully because you usually find what you go looking for and if you look on Grindr and the bars you find trashy people.
>>83664168I'm not brushed up on my boomer social studies to understand what this is trying to communicate here>>83664192>i'm not sure what the alternative you're proposing is.I'm not proposing any alternatives, I initially was just speaking with OP. He was saying some bs about his confusion over what's happening to him. I believed I had the linguistic toolbox to help. If you want to be a perverted freak off the deep end of a sexual obsession, that's your prerogative. All of that spiel is just cope. >tell us what your agenda isI don't have an agenda. All I'm saying is that porn is not real, and using something unreal for the satisfaction of a real urge is what makes it weird. To normalfags that don't use porn (they exist), you straight up look like a deviantart guy that needs to goon to shit like picrel. >>83664280>I'm not reading all that>all thatYou are fucking cooked my guy.
>>83664309>porn just sets your brain up to prefer unrealistic stimuli and damages your ability to enjoy intimacy with human partnersthere you go, that's the info i was hoping for you to say, because it's true. but what happens when society makes it near impossible to find a human partner (because everyone is porn addicted)? i agree that quitting porn is superior than to keep consuming it out of principle, but in practice it does not help you find a human partner in today's day and age. that's why it gets harder to quit porn with each passing year: you do a year of noporn, haven't found a single human partner, so you relapse. we are regressing as a species, and a single individual that goes against the flow can only get lucky.
>>83664312grindr and the bars are the only third places that practically exist. people don't want to be bothered at the library, the store or wherever else. and the non-trashy guys are harder to tell if they're gay or not
>>83664357>but in practice it does not help you find a human partner in today's day and agethis is a cope to not try because it's harder than it used to be.
>>83664326Fine..Yeah, that waste of my day granted me insight into your reductive nonsense. Gooning is a cope for unfulfilled desires for satisfaction. Bois trigger the attraction reflex, he is curious or internally homophobic so he won't allow himself to chase that kind of person. He jorks it trying to simulate the satisfaction without dealing with whatever baggage is holding him up. Getting no satisfaction. I won't even bother with your last paragraph since it's reductive nonsense on top of a strawman
>>83664379i've already tried a bit, longest nofap/noporn streak was three months. might not be long enough, but when will it be? seeing couples in public, hearing how some people get a gf/bf the moment they lose their last one, getting brutally rejected one too many times... sure, it's not statistically impossible, but some people die of old age before they win the lottery. and then you think to yourself, why should i deprive myself of fantasizing when all these people are living the fantasy without even being aware of their luck? you can see how the temptation creeps in. i don't know what to do, no one in my situation does, because there's nothing to do other than fight off the urge to want to kill yourself when you put yourself out there in a society that hates your existence
>>83664375Use a regular dating app and state in your profile that you want something serious. Look at the tinder graphs and try telling me that won't work and I'll call you a legitimate retard.
>>83664357NTA but porn induced erectile dysfunction is a completely different phenomenon. We aren't boomer oofy doofies who had our fill of women in our youth and we simply aren't attracted to our wives and would rather just have a wank. >and damages your ability to enjoy intimacy with human partnersThis is literally just speculation. >>83664423>Gooning is a cope for unfulfilled desires for satisfaction.Nobody said this. I didn't say this, and I'm pretty sure nobody ITT even said this. You couldn't quote anything I've said and place this under it. Your mind is just a big tumbling nonsense generator, nothing logically follows from anything with you. I wouldn't be surprised if you're actually a chatbot
>>83664424Sorry if I came off as hostile, I guess I'm walking a middle line that displeases everyone. More people fail than before because it's harder than before, but people that put in the hard work still succeed more often than people who don't. Some will work hard and still fail, where they might have succeeded in another age. Some will do nothing and succeed in spite of it, engendering indignation from the less fortunate. Of course it's not fair, but at the end of the day with all of your spite you can only hurt yourself in a meaningful way by not trying your hardest to reach your potential. Failure is the default and can only be avoided with consistent effort.But yes, some people will try, and fail, and die without succeeding at getting something they wanted. It's a tragic tail as old as time. You don't have to be among them, but some people convince themselves they're destined for it. If you want real, more specific advice, find a male, non-jewish therapist. Like all remedies it's not guaranteed but it's at least making an attempt.
>>83664445>gets messages from single mothersYeah no, I'm good.
>>83664457>This is literally just speculation.extreme cumbrain cope
>>83664445>use "a regular dating app" (grindr but for women) >then say in your bio that you want something serious lmfao dude >look at tinder graphs You are a very unserious person
>>83664465Works for men though if you are gay ez mode
>>83664445i tried multiple dating apps 2 years ago and got like 5 likes in the 3-4 months that i tried them. but to be fair i was trying to go for women back then, maybe i should try again for men and hope i don't run away out of repressed homosexual fear. can i get a bf if i'm tall & handsome but very poor & autistic?
>>83664477If you've never been touched by a woman who's attracted to you before, then how do you know how you'll react? Other than your expectation to be like a boomer oofy doofy who isn't attracted to his wife because that's something you've heard about online?
>>83664135>but a computer screen is not a manNo, but if there is a naked man swinging his fucking cock around on the computer screen then obviously you're jerking off to menwhat the fuck anon?
This thread is a disaster
Not reading this thread whats the actual solution? I think I psyopped myself from a young age to be queer but I dont want to come out to anyone or do any cringe faggot shit like that. Whats the solution?
>>83664746repressed homosexuality is one hell of a drug
>>83664811you may remain vulnerable to gay shit but if you just stop using hardcore porn you can probably also have your normal baseline sexual attractions alongside the gay stuff.
>>836648111. avoid 2d and 3d porn, femboys/twinks look too unrealistic2. look at irl porn and make sure to see the faces of the femboys/twinks. you will get grossed out, but seeing reality will make you realize how you're not actually attracted to them3. eventually stop looking at porn altogether or at least focus on 3d womenif you end up liking the irl faces on the femboys/twinks, maybe you are really born gay idk, just make sure there's no filters or stuff to hide their real face
>>83664838>or at least focus on 3d womenirl women*at the end of the day all porn gives you false expectations, but at least irl women are actual real life women instead of polygons or drawings
>>83664492Yeah but then you'll be a fuckin normie sex haver
>>83664550>what the fuck anon?A man in a computer screen is a simulacrum of a man Simulating a sex act on yourself in response to a simulacrum does not map onto reality. When will you people get it through your heads that this shit isn't real >>83664746It seems all we have to do to kill the /lgbt/ bait is take it completely seriously and completely ignore the porn posts lmao. I need to train up apprentices to understand these talking points and we'll just bombard the porn bait threads with logic bombs that derail everyone into coping. Then the spammers will get bored and raid less >>83664819>normal baseline sexual attractionsYou're just talking about more porn aren't you >>83664838Porn use is not a bridge into IRL life. It only flows downward and away from IRL. I didn't even fucking catch on the first read-through that you're talking about 3d as in, 3d animations. >>83664811>the solution I don't think there is one. You have a history of using internet porn. That's a fact about your life. Whether you let that influence the rest of your life is up to you.
>>83664879isn't that the goal though? virgins of all kinds always say how lucky the normie sex havers are, even though they hate them. you become the sex haver or die a virgin
>>83664880Unless you are a very dedicated master baiter, then I would seriously - very much without any irony - suggest that you take your prescribed meds before you go off some deep end.
>>83664819Thanks. That makes sense, porn is the biggest culprit to my degenerate thoughts.>>83664838Again thanks for the reply. I do find SOME guys cute but keyword is some. When I go on Grindr 90% of the guys do nothing for me. I feel like I could just rewire my brain to line women and pussy again. I need to anyway. I cannot be a fag, that would severely harm my relationships within my family. Its a non option. Thank you.
>>83664880>You're just talking about more porn aren't youNo you dumb fag, I'm talking about being attracted to women like normal men normally are. Even if you jerk off to hardcore vanilla porn all the time it'll fuck you up.
>>83664481>You are a very unserious personPrepare your buns to get blasted. Observe the following common rage bait image. Clear your mind of everything like the climax of Ghostbusters and consider this:There is no reason to assume that the attractiveness curve for men looking for men would be different from the graph for men looking for women. The graph fits a normal distribution like from a math textbook. If we can assume both are similar then the logic would follow that more men about as attractive as you or maybe a little more will be open to dating you.
>>83664895Try another canned response, cause that one had no effect at all. You can think of it as a free will check >>83664912His relationships IRL with the people around him have no relation to his porn use. If he lets his porn addiction be the excuse that he isn't asking girls out, that's just contrived noise fuddling the real reason. Imagine someone saying that porn is the reason that they couldn't complete their college coursework or something. >Even if you jerk off to hardcore vanilla porn all the time it'll fuck you up.You're already fucked up once you are in the act of jerking off to vanilla porn. That behavior is already removed from reality and means you've been perverted.
>>83664977My bad bro I read back a few posts for context and I genuinely didn't even assume you were talking to someone about trying to find gay men or whatever this is.
>>83665010bro you clicked on a thread with a literal bare man's ass as the op pic, faggot
>>83665018I'm all over /r9k/. Do you expect me to react to nude images like a city girl embarrassed over the indecency of farm animals? Porn spam is so common and has been for so long that I'm completely detached from it.
>>83661485>Think about passionately kissing a girl and stroking her hair while fingering her softlyNothing.>Think about passionately kissing a femboy and stroking his hair while frotting through our pantsNow I have to jack off to this thought. Fuck you OP.
This thread made me go on ph looking for femboys but I was quickly disgusted and watched a girl. Femboys are gross
>>83664101That dude facially mogs a lot of women.
What a weird thread. Some of us are just attracted to guys and that's all there is to it. It doesn't have anything to do with porn. No amount of brainwashing yourself with porn will make you become attracted to women. Countless guys have gotten girlfriends and wives in attempts to make themselves straight, to no avail.
>>83665620then how come that looking at buff dudes makes me feel nothing, but looking at feminine dudes makes me extremely horny? is my breed of homosexuality retarded?
>>83665102This is peculiar to me. I exclusively watch femboys and when I see any ad with a pussy I am genuinely disgusted and turned soft. I wish I was straight but it just does nothing for me at all.
>>83662818I was but I'm done now.
>>83665651I'm in the same boat, regular guys do nothing for me but I'd sodomize >>83665083>>83664101>>83663861>>83663826 to no end.
>>83665651it's far from rare. men in antiquity sometimes banged twinks and then went on with their normal lives. i'd even say it's pretty vanilla.
>>83665696So then its not homosexual? So all this arguing in this thread was pointless?
>>83665705yes. tops are never gay, only bottoms are gay
>>83665705If you're into women and feminine men, you're bisexual. If you exclusively like femboys, yeah you're gay.
>>83665705>>83665696damn that's some obvious samefagging.
>>83665696>men in antiquity sometimes banged twinks and then went on with their normal livesMan this is such a dirty misinterpretation of history. Pederasty and fornication were always seen as degenerate practices engaged in by decadent elites. You had guys going to brothels sometimes but they were fucking women.
>>83665740so we've established I am bisexualwhere do I find a femboy to live out my desires with?
>>83665651So you're bisexual / attracted to femininity then? A lot of straight guys are just attracted to femininity (gynephilic).Presumably this is "good enough" to cause them to fuck women sometimes, so it need not be more precise than that.
>>83665763I don't know how widespread it was but it happened
>>83665763this is your brain on "history" thinking it started 3000 years ago and exclusively happened in Christian europeeveryone used to just fuck whoever it was so common they didn't even have a word for someone who exclusively fucked one sex. it only became noble decadence when everyone but the nobles became subjects of the church.it's crazy that people think everyone was walking around mesopotamia worried about the age of consent or genderyou have the same small mind as the european sailors that visited new cultures and got freaked out that the men there wanted to fuck the exotic newcomers just as much as they wanted to fuck the exotic women
>>83665890EVERYTHING happened. It's not relevant if it wasn't a common practice.
>dude if not for le ebul christians everyone would still be having gay pedo sex btw everyone had gay pedo sex all the time in the past
>>83665925I don't think the christians were evil lol, but its idiotic to talk about "history" and really only talk about the histories recorded by early western european societies. Hawaii was still doing societally recognized gay relationships 300 years ago before they made contact with the europeans/americans and got turned into a fruit plantation.
>>83666009hawaiians fucked their kids regularly and their """""""society""""""" amounted to nothing
>>83666026LOL cry more. I bet you take personal pride in your knowledge of history too. You can take your pick of precolonial societies and periods. gayshit was widespread and common place all over including powerful societies like china and greece. But please do go on about how achtually BASED european monarchies of people fucking their own sisters to produce a heir was actually the pinnacle of civilization and where we should look for our modern day morality.
>>83665925Ain't nobody over here talkin about fuckin no kids bro, these is grown ass men
>>83666146>your first example of common gay relations is the incredibly pedophilic hawaiianshuge owngoal>then to counter an argument that these degenerate practices were only common among decadent elites, you cite a book that talks about english NOBILITYMaking my point for me.Greeks culturally shunned homos too. I'm not as familiar with chinks outside of them getting conquered by british drug runners without too much resistance. This is the one of the most tolerate times for fags in all of human history, I don't know why you're so butthurt about the fact that every civilization of note had widespread condemnation for your weird buttfuckery.
>>83666197every civilization of note and 'the ones anon has read about' is a perfect circle in your mind.The reason we mostly talk about elites in history is the same reason we mostly talk about men. no one cared enough to write anything down for women(property) or peasants(property).this being the most tolerant time is just objectively wrong. most but not all cultures didn't have any taboo or laws about fucking dudes for most of their history. not the native americans north or south prior to colonization, not for most of chinas or indias history, not even europe or the middle east the birthplace of the alhambric religions. your brain can simply not comprehend a world outside of your current moment. for most of human history there was no more a taboo on gayshit as there was on women walking around without shirts.its ok to not know this stuff anon they didnt exactly cover it in highschool, but its cringe to pretend.
>>83666308>this being the most tolerant time is just objectively wrongAbsolutely retarded this is your brain on pop history from some libtard revisionist cuntoid/faggot
>>83666308>most but not all cultures didn't have any taboo or laws about fucking dudes for most of their history.Okay dude, take care
>>83666326>>83666336Literally provide a single source boys. 1 single book to back up your claim. You have the whole internet at your fingertips, it shouldnt be that hard.
>>83666326>Absolutely retarded this is your brain on pop history from some libtard revisionist cuntoid/faggotYeah dude totally. Woke british guy who wrote about how gay ancient rome was in 1780
>>83666462>book about rome's decline and fall discusses the gaynessfascinating
>>83666308My man you are a straight retarded historylet, there are countless books about the cultural practices of everyday people throughout history, not just "male elites."
>>83666462How the fuck does the homo pedo shit in ancient rome have anything to do with the fact that there have never been such liberal freedoms until this point? Eating pussy was seen as faggotry in rome by the way.
>>83666462>muh gay rape sex is the pinnacle of tolerance and nothing else matters toward that metricI guess white men had significantly more freedom for all of history until this point
Tell me you wouldn't fuck this if you could.
>>83666603i'm so tired of fantasizing
>>83666610Same here brother. You'd be insane to pass this up.
>>83661517>>83662234>>83662333>>83663704Retarded take synthesized from a book with copious amount of BBC cuckolding from a "literally who" who used to have a blog meant only to gaslight it's users and who iced the moment he barely got doxxed. >uhm lel bro if you're exposed to something then you're going to like that something, simulacrum somethingGet the fuck outta here.
ITT: Faggots justifying their degenerate porn addiction
>>83666648>you need to accept us for who we are>also you're insane if you don't want to have sex with men
>>83661485>femboy ass threadNice. These two are my favorite.
i dont understand the point of being a man, why would you wanna be all hairy and ugly when you can be a girl with smooth skin and a fat ass. femboys won.
>>83661485I'm in the same boat. I guess I'm bisexual, but I'm too uncomfortable to accept that for some reason. Femboys make me horny as shit, especially if the really girly aspects like plump lips and wide hips and girly clothes are emphasized. I still get horny for women, but it's just not the same. Femboys are just lewder than women. It's viscerally more arousing to me seeing a hard cock in panties than it is seeing a cameltoe. I wish this wasn't the case, but it's the hole I've dug for myself, and I have to lie in it now.
>>83667850because you can't become a woman when you're a man.
>>83667850>femboys wonIDK if we won. I'm still a guy. Smooth skin and rapeable ass, but with a girlfriend. And AA cup boobs lol.Still contemplating fully trooning out but I actually like my life the way it is. I get seen as a girl half of the time but I also get to do things trannies can't (like hassle-free international travel).However, I can't bro out with most guys because being a feminine man is not acceptable. Oh well.
>>83668253>Still contemplating fully trooning outyou've nothing to gain from it, troons just look less natural and therefore less attractive, and youth still fades. Enjoy it while you're in it, don't obsess over trying to make a flower live forever.
>>83668293It's not for beauty purposes that I want to fully troon out. Or at least not primarily. Tho I will say that 10-15yrs from now I would definitely look better as a tgirl than as a femboy.I'm already 35. My artistic career as a performance dancer will be over in 5yrs or so. What started as a side gig for fun ended up making good money. But it's youth-coded.I'll probably be John50 but not the way trannies think, kek
>these two boys met up at the AX convention in 2024>they shared pics with anons on a fgo themed /soc/ thread during that time>castoriabro shared more risque pics on litterbox (r.i.p. pics)God I wish I was there.
>>83668429>i'd look good as a 50 year old trannymy friend, i sincerely hope you don't find out how wrong you are about that. Good luck.
>>83668446We're all going to get old. The question is how to age less badly.
are traps and femboys interested in regular male presenting males or is it like many trans people are mainly looking for other trans people?
>>83668469diet exercise and skincare, that question's been answered already mane
>>83668482>diet exercise and skincarealready been doing that since age 17.But no skincare comes even close to what playing around with the hormones has brought.>>83668481before the current gf, I was in a relationship for 4 years with a perfectly regular bi guy with a boring job. The reason we're not together anymore is because he picked up a contracting job on an another continent lol.I'm not a trap/troon (yet?) just an hrtfemboy.Your question is one of legit sexual orientation though. Vanilla bisexuals will still be vanilla bisexuals even if they tweak their endocrine system lol.
>>83661485It's just the novelty of it, manLike, have you ever had man-ass before or has it all been porn so far?
>>83668668>Vanilla bisexuals will still be vanilla bisexuals even if they tweak their endocrine system lol.but how many are vanilla bi? You can say the same thing about every group of people but i wanted to know how 'closed off' traps or femboys are on average. is it like with with many trans people that are mainly t4t or are you people more "tolerant"?
>>83668827>are you people more "tolerant"?or like more open i don't know what to call it
>>83668827>but how many are vanilla bi?Nobody can tell you that. It varies a lot by country, socialization, interests, and so on. Femboys who don't have their brains fried by weed are basically normal guys outside of the aesthetics.>you can say the same about every group of peoplewell, yes. That was my point. We're not a separate species. We're regular people. Some more fucked up, some more normal, some aren't even bi. I know a guy who mogs me (he's also 4yrs younger which helps him) who is married with children and was low-key disgusted when I made a flirty comment not even aimed at him.>is it like with with many trans people that are mainly t4t or are you people more "tolerant"?okay, in that comparison I think femboys are more tolerant, as you put it lol.though I do think a lot of troons are t4t because of their mental weirdness which makes them almost undateable outside of troon circles.Mental health imho makes the biggest difference. Those who love themselves (or at least don't actively hate themselves) make for better partners and thus end up more open.Seeing how weird/insane troons online are made me question my sanity for a while. Until I met troons IRL and realized there's just a segregation. The "baby trans" are more online and isolated while the ones active IRL don't post that much.I wish I had a more elaborate answer for you.
>>83661485Pounding femboy bussy is a sign of asserting dominance. A man has not truly lived before shooting his seed inside a shy, short submissive hairless femboy twink (preferably asian). This is the truth.
>>83668876>I wish I had a more elaborate answer for you.no you answered perfectly. just the kinda stuff i wanted to know. Thanks :D
>>83666654Impressive trivia on eceleb lore. How could the take be so retarded that nobody ITT successfully defended against it? >Get the fuck outta here.It's all you can say.
>>83666603i've never seen a better reason as to why asses are called buns and cake and bakeries
