Getting into philosophy again. Not exactly a beginner but Im looking to see what you would recommend.Main past reads are>Kant>Nietzsche>Land>Stirner>Aristotle>Ted KListed in no particular orderWhat do you recommend for me? Thanks in advance.
>>83666581Thomas Paine
>>83666581Don't. It's just a distraction from ur childhood trauma
>>83666581The best philosophers are:>Confucius>Plato>Aristotle>Nietzsche>Mortimer Adler>Roger ScrutonIf you can synthesize their ideas, you will lead an optimal life.
Hello!My Recs:Seneca On MoralityZhuang ZhouSpinozaSchopenhauerSimulation and Simulacra by BaudrillardAlso read the Brother's K cause it's a great philosophy dialogueThe Plague by CamusMachiavelli (Discords of Titus, not The Prince)Carl JungDon't Read Hegel. Hegel is an infohazard that will turn you into an idealist. Once you become an idealist, there's no going back.
>>83666581>Nietzsche>Foucault>Braudel>Schmitt>Pareto>Ocalan>de Benoist
>>83666581Camus
>>83666613Did you get this list off reddit or AI suggestions?
>>83666581How about you write something instead?
>>83666581>reading the intuitions of othersBoring, take drugs and come to your own ideas like a real philosopher
i would recommend you read professional academic handbooks
>>83666631i came up with this list all on my own, why? is it generic or something?i suppose maybe it is..
fuck philosophy get a job gxng
>>83666663I fucking hate this take and I hear it all the timeExpanding your perspective by learning what others think is not a bad thing. It equips you to philosophize better, not worse. Many of the best philosophers got their ideas from others>>83666689I think that anon is just being a dick, there's nothing wrong with your list
It really depends on what you are interested in, "Philosophy" is too vague a topic to recommend books for other than like Plato or Intro to Phil 101 textbooks.
>>83666735I think unless you're interested in learning about ontology or epistemology or something specific then you're probably going to be reading about philosophy as it exists wrt praxis and the world. Any contemporary philosopher of significance/potential world-historic value is a political philosopher
>>83666735>>83666755Useful philosophy is ethics and politics. Metaphysics and epistemology might be fun thought experiments, but I don't think reading books on those topics will actually influence your behavior at all.
>>83666769>epistemology might be fun thought experiments, but I don't think reading books on those topics will actually influence your behavior at alli'd argue the scientific method is epistemology
>>83666778That is true. I think that both schools had more value in the past than they do now.
>>83666769>>83666755>I'm interested in philosophy>But I actually don't like philosophy and only care about politicsPretentious faggots
>>83666794Politics are philosophy you enormous retardSo are ethics but you ignored that
>>83666581David Pearce is worth reading. He writes about transhumanist philosophy and how it might be possible to abolish suffering.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Pearce_(philosopher)https://www.hedweb.com/
>>83666769>Metaphysics and epistemology might be fun thought experiments, but I don't think reading books on those topics will actually influence your behavior at all.Metaphysics maybe less so (particularly in secular society), but I don't think you can really understand how the contemporary world works without also understanding Foucault's conception of power-knowledge, relations of force, panopticism, etc.
>>83666769Well, in the end what matters is using the rule of cool criteria, isn't it? If one finds something cool that is reason enough. People should read what they want to read.
>Getting into philosophy
>>83666830NO. People should read what I want them to read.
>>83666835>he's been living an unexamined life
>>83666830I don't disagree. But if you're reading to learn something or change yourself, then there are some books you should read and others you should avoid.
>>83666841but what is want?
>>83666581I'm surprised no one mentioned kirkengaard
>>83666581Alfred North Whitehead. Process philosophy is peak.
>>83666585Fippy bippy, absolutely based
>>83667050Recommended since OP mentioned Uncle Ted and Nietzsche.>>83666962agreen
>>83666581Me and my entire history of rambling posts on 4chan.
>>83666849>he needs read others philosoohy to examine his life
>>83666769This is literally the opposite. Politics and ethics is the most trite shit that attracts midwits and hylics. True philosophy, in it's original meaning, is love for wisdom ie truth. You study metaphysics if you seek truth, if you wish to wallow around in the mud with other hylics you focus on politics and ethics. Politics and ethics is derivative, you don't understand politics and ethics unless you understand metaphysics.
>>83667256for me, the best field of philosophy is aesthetics
>he has to study metaphysics because he cannot understand actual physics
>>83667291This is the opposite. Metaphysics is above physics. Physics is all about the puppet while metaphysics is about the puppeteer. Physicists today are the poor man's metaphysician, quantum theory, string theory, simulation theory, these are their pathetic attempts at metaphysics.
>>83666581Michael Della Rocca. The Parmenidean Ascent is a fantastic book
>he actually believes what he just said
Mark manson
>>83667396It's called meta-physics for a reason. Studying the source is more important than studying it's derivatives.
>>83667426More important in what way? Physics is useful, you can use it to build things that help humans. A person with a strong grasp of metaphysics can't construct a bridge, but a physicist could.
>thinking his thought experiments mean anything compared to actual physics and their actual experiments
>>83666581outside of the classics id recommend>Zizek>Jacques Derrida>Hegel (you will want to kys)>Schopenhauer>Baudrillardalso a lot of this stuff is hard to understand outside of the context it was written in so you should definitely start form the beginning with the republic
>>83666631brain aids poster that can't comprehend someone having done or read anything in their life
>>83666581LacanPlotinusEarly Church FathersSt. Thomas AquinasReread Plato and AristotleHarold Bloom's books on Gnosticism Derrida
>>83667436It's useful in the ultimate sense, it's a cure to the human condition caused by ignorance, the cure to ignorance is wisdom, ie truth. In the physical sense, you do not have a firm grasp of the physical world if you don't understand it's principles and causes. Most of the cosmos is unseen, without an understanding of metaphysics you are just groping in the dark. What do you think dark matter, quantum theory, string theory, simulation theory is? These are metaphysics, however terrible it is. Without metaphysics you don't understand what energy is, you don't understand what gravity is, you don't understand what space is. Physicists can have the perfect descriptions of all these things, doesn't mean they understand what it is though, because descriptions aren't explanations. Knowing that something falls to the ground, calculating exactly how and when it will is one thing, knowing WHY is different and ultimately more important. >>83667443Metaphysics is logical and rigorous in it's proofs. It deals with principles and causes. It's beyond the profane and the midwits, who cannot see beyond their senses. It's a level of abstraction that is to midwits as arithmetic is to niggers, in the same way arithmetic is just incomprehensible voodoo to niggers, metaphysics is same but for (You).>Wisdom, therefore, deals with the first principles and causes of things, and so is universal knowledge in the highest degree. This means that it is the science which is furthest removed from the senses, the most abstract science, and so is the hardest of the sciences as involving the greatest effort of thought . "Sense-perception is common to all and therefore easy and no mark of Wisdom."3 But, though it is the most abstract of the sciences, it is, in Aristotle's view, the most exact of the sciences, "for those which involve fewer principles are more exact than those which involve additional principles, arithmetic than geometry."
>>83666581Plato- Apology, Republic, Symposium, ParmenidesSpinoza - Ethics, Theologico-Political TreatiseLocke - Essay Concerning Human Understanding, Second Political TreatiseBerkeley - Treatise Concerning Human KnowledgeHume - An Enquiry Concerning Human UnderstandingSchopenhauer - Fourfold Root of the Principle of Sufficient Reason, The World as Will and Representation
>admits metaphysics is not empirical proof when physics does provide observable, empirical proof
>>83667671There is no such thing as proof, only logic and empiricism. Logic is necessary, empiricism is optional.
>>83667671>logic and arithmetic isn't empirical, therefore, it isn't proof>admits he is a retard who can't reason nor understand a-priorisThe fact there are people that think like this is unbelievable, you might as well just be AIs.
