Do you think you'd have more success with women in the past with your looks and personality?If yes, to which time period would you teleport yourself?
yes, anytime
>>83668340From thumbnail, I thought it was a guy with shopped tits.
>>83668340Post more old time hangers
>>83668340We live in interesting times. Women of today are simultaneously the fittest and thr fattest on average of all time or at least since recorded history. Also, due to the makeup and plastic surgery industries, they are facially prettier than ever. So whichever historic period you chose to go to, you might find better attitudes in women, but they would be 2-3 points on average lower in all physical aspects
>>83668340Yeah, but not because I think I would've been considered more attractive or more intelligent in the past. I just think that standards would have been less unreasonable then.
Easily. Based on the standards of the past I'd be a fucking superhuman. I'm a gymcel autist with a graduate math degree, and in today's economy own my home outright at 30... Today I give women the ick because I'm quiet and way too polite. There is a reason guys like us are always what grandmas try to set up their granddaughters with.You ever seen pictures of men during the vietnam war and before? They were twinks, pretty much what passes for a sissy tranny today. The biggest guy you'll see in any picture has like 15" flexed arms, a fucking joke. What about professionally? Men back then held their head up high and acted like big shot career men for having some faggot job like being a clerk at a grocery store counter.
>>83668340I have success now. You niggas just don't interact with women in meaningful ways.
>>83668340I think that's the case for every guy.
>>83669399it's also never been easier to raise children>least likely ever to die in childbirth>children sent off to school for the majority of their youth>daycare and nannies have never been cheaper>The existance of sperm banks. Now you dont even have to have sex with a man if yo want children>The existance of serrogates. Now you don't even have to be the one growing the children>Fertility treatment for older women>egg freezing>government aid for single mothers>forced child support from fathers, they dont even have to be the biological father>widely praised in society for being a single mother>all studies showing children are bad for the environment debunked>with youtube and vidya children have never been easier to keep entertained and quiet>never been more socially acceptable to sleep around and baby trap menAND YET THERE WILL STILL BE WOMEN SAYING PARENTHOOD IS HARD AND THEY'D RATHER HAVE A CAT ARE YOU KIDDING ME HOW LAZY COULD YOU POSSIBLY WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT HOW MUCH EASIER CAN WE MAKE IT YOUR ANCESTORS FOUGHT WARS AND PLAGUES AND YOU CANT BE ARSED TO STOP TRYING TO KILL THE ENTIRE SPECIES
>>83670403>least likely to ever die in childbirthUSA has one of the highest mortality rates for mothers in developed countries and I know multiple people who suffered birth injuries or had their children suffer them
>>83670403Also surrogacy is fucking demonic and you should kill yourself for being a proponent for it
>>83670420i never said it didnt happen, just that it's happening at the lowest rate in human history, ever. Really says something about how dangerous pregnancy is. The human is so stupid, yet sometimes so intelligently designed. We couldn't be more optimised for throwing, wrestling, running and tool use, yet we can't stand for too long because our curved spine is crushing itself
>>83670446You wouldn't speak about it in such a blase way if you were actually a woman or had a sibling with a birth injury or a mother who almost died
>>83670425i'm not, but if the only reason a woman wont do her part to keep the species alive is that she doesnt want to go through the pain of pregnancy, there are options. back in the day there wasnt
>>83670455If you can't make a woman feel safe enough to carry your child you shouldn't blame women but yourself and society. Point blank men just want us to scrape by and see our and childrens suffering as a fact of life. So we are opting out. Fuck you.
>>83668340Virginia Bell
>>83670450tf do you want me to say nigga? dying in child birth bad? ok then dying in child birth bad. It's a good thing the rate has never been lower. What, am I supposed to say that just because it happens to a small amount of people that no one should have kids? That just because some women get raped that no one should have sex? That sometimes people get hit by cars that no one should cross the street? Shit happens, everything you do in life is a risk, but some things need to get done regardless
>>83670425>surrogacy is fucking demonicGo back to r/redscarepod, hole. Your kind is not welcome here.
>>83670461exactly how am I supposed to guarantee a woman's safety during pregnancy? Anymore than society already can with hospitals and medical advancements and special treatments for pregnant women? Am I supposed to know if my children specifically will kill the mother? How? What exactly do you want me to do about it that hasnt already been done?
>>83670470>being against using someone's body as an incubator makes you a heckin redditorKill yourself too, nigger. It's literally evil to rip a baby away from it's birth mom and sell it to another couple. A baby needs it's mommy
>>83670477>someone's bodyFirst off, women are not humanSecond, adoptive mothers can and will fill that role. Sometimes even better than the biological mother ever could
>>83670475>how huhhh bwuhh what should I do wahhhhYou are pitiful. Be a fucking man it's called advocating for your woman and being there to cooperate with the midwife and btfo any retard nurse or doctor that tries to neglect or mistreat herI literally keep seeing vids of men freaking out before their wives give birth having full blown panic attacks when the focus should be on supporting their pregnant fucking wifeWhat the fuck happened to menMaybe we don't want to have your kids because you are all enormous big babies yourselves and are afraid to even say your order is wrong at a restaurant much less advocate for us while we are ripped open trying to bear your child
>>83670477nobody is ripping anyone's kids away, you paranoid illiterate retard. Nobody is forcing you do use surrogacy. It's merely an option for women who want kids, but are afraid of the risks of being the one who carry the child. Do you think the serrogate is the one who gets to keep it afterwards? Do you think that child won't have your DNA? You're just borrowing another woman's womb, with her consent
>>83670494>>83670490Surrogacy harms the baby and the mother because it's unnatural to rip a baby away from the mom who hosted it for months so some barren whore or faggot couple can roleplay happy family. It's fucking evil and I say that as a feminist
>>83670493At what point in my post, whose purpose was to explain the myraid ways parenthood has never been easier, did I say men are more likely to "panic" during childbirth? If anything they are least likely to. You do know potential parents can go to training right? So the guy IS prepared on what to do when it's time? Something we've never had in human history. If anything it's highly recommended. You had 9 months to prepare for this bro. Were told to be.
>>83670493>Be a fucking manHow could *you* know...
>>83670501Take your inane ramblings elsewhere, hole. None of you chromosomally maladjusted subhuman creatures are rhetorically potent enough to even come close to being able to defeat your superiors in debate. Get out of here before I whip out the belt.
>>83670501>roleplay happy familyit's literally not roleplay? The baby is legally theirs. The surrogate new the risks when she agreed. She knew that the baby is not hers. Doctors simply put the real mom's fertalised egg in her. Now are their cases where the surrogate bonds with the baby as if it's hers? Sure, but all of this is discussed and approved off before hand. It's an OPTION.
>>83670508>At what point in my post, whose purpose was to explain the myraid ways parenthood has never been easier, did I say men are more likely to "panic" during childbirth?I wasn't saying you said that? Are you retarded or just trying some weird argument tactic you learned on tiktok
>>83668340i would absolutely have more success in a time period with arranged marriages, and even more if that time period had all the chads rounded up and shot
>>83670518>>83670521The time you spend parsing the thoughtless ramblings of the posts you are replying to and thinking of responses to them is spent as productively as shouting into a sinkhole. Which is not that far off the mark: You are arguing with a hole, or a "woman" in common vernacular.
>>83670518>legally theirs A lot of "legal" things are injustices or just plain disgusting. What happened to critical thinking? A baby knows who it's mom is, full stop. It's never going to be normal to rip a baby away from it's true mom>b-b-buh the sperm and the egg inserted-The baby and mom are connected
>>83670529>duuuude arguing on 4chan is like, pointless so like, stopOr you could just click out of threads you dislikeI am not going to adjust my behavior for your poor emotional regulation skills
Not a chance. The youngest zoomer girls today are obsessed with height thankfully.>197cm short
>>83670521>I literally keep seeing vids of men freaking out before their wives give birth having full blown panic attacks when the focus should be on supporting their pregnant fucking wifeWhat the fuck happened to menthis your argument sis?Also are you>implyingthat I am >implyingthat because we have hospitals and medical advancements that the man doesn't have to do anything? Because I wasn't. Men should be there to help too. That's part of medical advancements. We know having the man there is important. We teach men not to just drop her off and leave it to the doctors. I didn't think I'd have to explain that but here we are.I swear you can't explain anything to leftists without giving a million different additional context and disclaimers, else you assume you forgotten about common sense points that don't need to be mentioned. Anyway you're stupid and I'm done arguing with you
>>83670530>What happened to critical thinking? >immediately pivots to a superstitious belief without presenting any supporting evidence whatsoeverThis is what we mean when we say that these holes are not human beings, folks. A person's words are reflections of their thought process. "Women"s words are products of an immutable word generator that can produce grammatically correct sentences, but not actually thoughtful arguments or statements.
>>83670530You are not the mother if the baby is not biologically yours. You have no legal claim to it. You will not be given guardianship over it should anything happen to the father. You signed a contract specifically stating you agree to loan out your womb. Any attempts to take the child will be seen as kidnapping. Any attempts to harm the child will be seen as child endangerment. If you do not agree to these terms, do not go forward with the surrogacy. You assumed the risks.
>>83670547>HoleGPTKek! It's kino!
>>83669766>poor autist gets oneshot by modern photography
>>83668340>Do you think you'd have more success with women in the past with your looks and personality?Anyone would because in the past the average man had much higher status than today. The average man nowadays is dispossessed of basically everything that men inherited in the past, because jews/oligarchies/international capitalist elite etc have made them into a neo-serf class. You are at the bottom of the caste system as a man with no spectacular height or striking facial appearance. You have nothing to work with until you maybe can work up to simulacra of owning property, like having a useful car and renting an apartment.>>83669399 >but they would be 2-3 points on average lower in all physical aspectsIn the past they didn't have makeup and plastic surgery, or piercings, tattoos, or exogenous hormones and birth control. They would be 2-3 points above in all physical aspects. >>83669766There was a different social status system in the past. >Men back then held their head up high and acted like big shot career men for having some faggot job like being a clerk at a grocery store counter.It's because they unironically were big shot career men. They owned property and made a lot of money. They drove around in 8 cylinder gas guzzlers for fun. But more than that there was a basic self-respect and human dignity that they possessed which was universally recognized in the culture. The only gymcels were people making careers out of circus performances. You're gymcelling today because you're trying to elevate your status by your superfluous appearance, just like everyone else and why gyms, protein supplements, etc are now such a massive industry.
>>83668340Yes because older women unanimously think I'm a great dating candidate and they're baffled why I'm not locked down.Send me back 30 years, I'd be a gigachad in my dad's day.
>>8366834020 years ago. Before social media took hold.
>>83671491>women unanimously think I'm a great dating candidate and they're baffled why I'm not locked down.You poor fool.
