After turning 30 and watching ALL of my colleagues divorce, having some of them openly share how miserable their sexual life was, it makes me really question whether women love their partners or not.Had multiple accounts of perfectly fine, tall, white blah male colleagues that were subjected to basically extremely low effort sex once a month by their partners, despite begging multiple times for more affection.Women DO NOT recognize sex as a love language. They are so detached from nature and what we are humans and so screwed in the head that they will be DISGUSTED by the idea of them not desiring their husbands equating to them not loving their husbands, even though it is true. To make it more clear, if a women is not making an effort to make their men feel desirable, to match their HEALTHY sexuality or even just plain desire their partner, THEY ARE USING THEM, IT'S NOT LOVE.Stay safe out there, I hope you guys never have to be in a situation where you are so in love with a woman that you will put up with this for 5+ years only to be chewed put later.
>>83669985But, is sex really completely necessary for a good relationship? Wouldn't sex become more and more rare as partners get older into old age? Like, what happens when the vagina gets all dried up, and the men can barely get erect anymore? Can't the two older people still love each other without the sex?
>>83670010>Like, what happens when the vagina gets all dried up, and the men can barely get erect anymore?Correction: men should be **man**My bad
I bet none of them ate pussy or only lasted like 30 seconds and wouldn't let her cum first
>>83670010Sex is not required for a relationship except for making children in fact, but shriveled pussies and droopy dicks are something that are supposed to happen when you have a whole litter of brats already college-aged and moved out.Sexual attraction is an integral component of a relationship, more like a proxy of how much you love each other as a whole. It isn't about the sex itself, it's just that we're wired in such a way that if we love each other, we want to fuck.Incidentally, one of the earliest signs a woman has fallen out of love for you is if she suddenly stops swallowing your cum and says it suddenly tastes gross, when she used to guzzle it like it was panacea.When that happens you can basically dump her on the spot, she will never fall back in love with you.
>>83670010>>83670018not at all, women want good genes, im not gonna undo the whole blackpill conversation, if they are bagging these high quality, high testosterone, traditionally attractive men, they have to maintain themmen like that will have a healthy libido way into their 40s. And I'm talking like sex multiple times a week for satisfaction level, some get depressed with once a week if it's not good sex, etc.If you bag a soft boy onions boy or whatever, which most women do not want, then maybe, JUST MAYBE the guy won't need as much sex to feel satisfied.Its a weird situation where you keep denying your partner sex and his view of himself in the relationship goes to shit kinds deal, i dont want to use the word satisfaction/being satisfied but I guess that's the human nature and it will be intrinsic to love language because thats how men view love.idk about relations on 40+s when everyone's hormones are all weird, i dont have older acquaintances>>83670036sure buddy, the fourchins anonymous mr pussy mc'eater knows better
>>83670080Yeah everybody on 4chan is a guy there are definitely no femanons that suffered bad sex before
>>83670086im glad we agree on something, if you wanna stretch im sure none of these girls managed to hold a man for longer than a month, specially with the mistifying attitude of 'i didnt like the sex but im not gonna te my man what i want'.I'm not really interested in kids talk anon, there are loads of other teens and early 20s anime posters around, go bother them somewhere else
>>83670010>Like, what happens when the vagina gets all dried up, and the men can barely get erect anymore?>30 years oldClearly not the case.
>>83670101I probably have a good 10 years on you
>>83670039>one of the earliest signs a woman has fallen out of love for you is if she suddenly stops swallowing your cum and says it suddenly tastes grossKek this happened the very first time my ex tried tasting my cum (like the third time we had sex). Really was a red flag because before we hooked up she was telling me how much she loves cum. That relationship crashed and burned and ended in a dead bedroom within 4 months
>>83670036Women just have zero expectations placed onto them by society nowadays. Feminism has absolved them of all marital duty. Not having sex with the person with whom you chose to be exclusive for the rest of your life is completely insane.
>>83670101One thing is damn sure, when I get a nice young GF I am going down on her regularly. I don't get why this is even an issue, why wouldn't you lick your girl's pussy if you find her sexy AF, it's weird. Niggas say it smells like fish or coins but how bad could it possibly be, thankfully my sense of smell is subpar.
>>83669985>it makes me really question whether women love their partners or not.spoiler: they don't
>>83670036there is a 0% chance I'm eating your HPV infected pussy retard maybe try dating a nigger
>>83670036>I bet none of them ate pussy or only lasted like 30 seconds and wouldn't let her cum firstVirgin hands typed this post. You're like every other sucker thinking "That would never happen to ME because when I get a a girlfriend I'll eat her pussy, and years of deathgripping my penis means I'll last a long time when I finally have real sex!"This just shows you've swallowed the propaganda that whenever a woman cheats on or divorces her husband, it always somehow HAS to be the man's fault. That's how it is in movies and TV, right? It couldn't POSSIBLY be that the guy was actually caring and loving and his wife was just a vapid, self-centered solopist who got bored. Spoiler Alert; women are different in real life, and you've got some hard life lessons ahead of you.
>>83671806>>83671945I'm white female sex haver std freeStop coping and get better at sex christ I hate you faggots
>>83669985back in the day when rent was affordable you could rent an apartment for your mistress and "stay late at work"
>>83671949>I'm white female sex haverCool story bro
>>83671949you will never be a women but even if you were I already told you we are not discussing the 1 month e-fling the sluts around here have. It's not a male bad sex problem, as a matter of fact after they divorce they usually have much richer sex lives because they are all most high value men in the example I gave. Literally their wives just didn't have the libido or wanted to out on the effort and this is veeeery common. Not every women has an itch up their vag that they would subject themselves to reside in this board for constant crumbs of attention and ability to gather constant sex and dicks, as a matter of fact most women DONT have higher lobido than their male partners. There will always be a labour effort expectation on the female side to satisfy their male partners, it's just nature.
>>83669985I'm 35 and every single relationship I have ever seen and heard of including my own 5 years living with an ex girlfriend have shown me extensively women do not love men as people they just use men to get what they want for themselves. The loving affectionate female is a male fantasy we write in fiction from our own desires/needs and women use that narrative to manipulate men. Women want resources, social status, children, validation/attention/affirmation, protection, power, praise etc. Either you face reality and the countless evidence all around you or you keep believing in fantasy ideals and keep getting duped by women. Either way you're never getting what you actually want from them. It's just not the way they are look at female animals in nature and how they behave. The sooner you come to terms with how real life actually is the better off you are.
>>83672116I believe you, but its also very depressing.
>>83672136Ofcourse it is. Every one of us would rather believe our dream loving waifu girl is our there and we can find her someday. But it's just delusional and self-deception and also massively setting yourself up for failure because some cunning bpd broad will try to sell you pretty lies so you trust her and play into her bullshit. There's a reason every divorced and married guy sounds the same and says the same shit about women. We've kinda spoiled ourselves with fictional entertainment giving us ideals we can't actually live in real life. For me it's actually made it so I can enjoy fictional entertainment more again because I've fully separated it from reality in my mind. Its like stories about superpowers you well know it's all fake and it is never going to happen irl but you enjoy it for fun same with romance and ideal women in stories now.
>>83672178>There's a reason every divorced and married guy sounds the same and says the same shit about women.Reminds me of when I got my first job and noticed several guys in my office all saying roughly the same sad jokes about their marriages and relationships. And talking about a divorced oldfag like "he managed to escape, lucky him" and the divorced oldfag referring to himself as "free as a bird".The oldfag takes a lot of days off to travel and get drunk with a few friends of his. The married guys can't do fun shit because they have no money and time, because they married annoying, manipulative, spendy, high-maintenance roasties, so they have to provide.Me? I'm the rich young dude who buys high end gaming hardware and they joke that I should "find a woman to burn thrrough your money and trap you with kids".All of this stuff is what turned me volcel.
>>83672238i would honestly trade it all away for someone thst treated me right and loved me, thats the sick part
>>83672238Still I'd like to have a daughter or a son, to share experiences with them and watch them grow up. At some point gaming and trips become stale. WTF are we supposed to do, get Indian surrogates to birth our kids? Or just impregnate some ovulating 19 year old from a solid family and hope for the best.
>>83672280I wouldn't, because deep down I'd be aware that it's fake and conditioned on me being a provider slave.>>83672293Nah, I never want kids. That would completely fuck up my life in ways only some debilitating disease could. I already work 8h a day and after that I just want to relax, or play vidya, or do literally anything else than go home to childcare and chores and a wife who doesn't want sex anymore.
>>83669985The issue is that female sex drive is a fraction of an average man ( 20x - 50x less ). This makes sense from an evolutionary perspective as wellThe social contract of marriage used to be free unlimited sex from a loving wife while you provide for her and she takes care of the kids. It worked across every culture until one day the contract was rewrittenThere is obviously nothing to do about it since an average woman simply cant match an average mans sex drive biologically. This is the final and brutal blackpill
Most women just dont enjoy sex that much honestly. Its currency to get into a relationship then they get bored of it, and its maybe not worth the effort for them as it becomes more difficult the more mentally distanced from the act they are. This is complacency and boredom, and in time hormonal. but I dont think that means theres no love there. Just that they dont enjoy it as men do.
>>83669985truth nuke. woman dont like sex like men. why is it so hard for men to accept this. some false sense of equivalence? women dont accept it for some reason either
Demoralization thread. These get called out instantly over in /pol/, why do you guys respond to them...
>>83673562I only hang out in these because my last relationship ended in dead bedroom through no fault of my own.I have an above average dick, I'm experienced and generous in bed, I always ate her out and saw to her needs first. I treated her like a goddamn princess outside the bedroom and choked her and fucked her sore until her eyes rolled back in the bedroom.Then one day her sex drive just disappeared. I think it was because she gained like 30lbs.... but also because she got bored of me as a person and got too comfortable in the relationship.