I genuinely think you have to be mentally disabled in some way to be a leftist.
>>83673189>I genuinely think you have to be mentally disabled in some way to be a rightoid.
There's plenty of retards on the right. Mental disability only half of the equation. A person must be evil in order to be leftist.
>>83673217who are you quoting rn?
>>83673230op saying nothing>>>/pol/
Liberals are the most eugenic group.
>>83673249>liberals are the most adapted to succeed in liberal societieswoah...groundbreaking shit right there...those guys would get executed in 5 seconds in any authoritarian society, look at iran for example
>>83673327>those guys would get executed in 5 seconds in any authoritarian society, look at (shithole) for exampleWhy don't chuds just all fuck off to the Middle East?
I genuinely think you have to be mentally disabled in some way to be on 4chan
>>83673189Yes that's a prerequisite
>>83673189>>83673217>mentally disabled in some way to be a leftist>mentally disabled in some way to be a rightoidIronically enough, you're both correct. Modern politics is just identitards trying to screech louder than the other.
>>83673189cute crossed paws kitty
>>83673347the entire west used to be authoritarian before socialists and toffs decided to work together to destroy it. authoritarianism was and is western culture, liberalism is just a gay blip.
>>83673470woa you just drew that???
>>83673450yeah, and the alignment shit has pretty much lost all meaningmost people are single issue obsessed and will just jump in with whoever supports the thing they agree with
>>83673189conservatives have lower IQs and are less educated than leftists.
>>83673553yes i did just draw that
>>83673514Western culture has always strived toward greater individual liberty, no matter which political and social system was set in place. Not even in Ancient Athens did you have a uniformly authoritarian society. The very concept of liberalism emerged from republican thought, it was an upgrade. You have to consider that liberals are not revolutionaries. Liberalism enables fascism and liberal reforms aimed to prevent revolutions. Totalitarian regimes have never lasted long, always outdone in time.
>>83673189You don't, you just need to refuse to give up the Fair World Hypothesis like every adult does.
>>83673641>Western culture has always strived toward greater individual libertythis is a total fucking lie. "individual liberty" was always used as a method and a pretext to overthrow the old ruling class. "louis capet" could not call upon his "individual rights" to save him.>You have to consider that liberals are not revolutionaries. Liberalism enables fascism and liberal reforms aimed to prevent revolutions. yeah, i fucking know who benjamin constant was.>Totalitarian regimes have never lasted long, always outdone in time.not synonymous with "authoritarian", but ok
>>83673217Cognitive decline of the elderly should not be made fun of
>>83673450finally some good fucking take
>>83673470this is a very cool drawing anon, very cute. drawing is a nice skill
>>83673189I guarantee you don't know what leftism is, you're just repeating propaganda.I'm also 90% confident you're the type of person who thinks American liberals are leftists.
It's amazing how Amerifats can simultaneously think that an evil cabal of leftists controls the world and that leftists are all incompetent retards, all the while never stopping to wonder why they had their foreskin cut off with no anesthetic when they were a baby despite no other civilized country doing this.
>>83673565>conservatives have lower IQsproof?>less educated than leftists.I can imagine that. But they do have more life experience on average
>>83673873>more life experiencemost have never left their state and live in the middle of fucking nowhere kek
basically all elite leftists have read rightist theory but basically no elite rightists have read leftist theory.makes you figure that the right is the more ignorant side.
>>83673906They've been working jobs and getting life experience. Most lefties you see are very isolated people that are radicalized by fringe groups. Most conservatives have more experience with things like immigrants for example.
>>83673622could you draw him too???
>>83673940ahahahaAHAHAHAHA
>>83673926Right wing people are almost all anti-intellectual and encourage people to avoid college, but cope by saying the 10 pdf books they skimmed online make them smarter than actual PhD professors
>>83673950>"I can't refute it so I just act like he said something wrong" Typical
>>83673189>Heatmap of caring about people vs rocks in space
>>83673926>basically all elite leftists have read rightist theory but basically no elite rightists have read leftist theory.proof?
>>83673926I do agree with you anon but I'm biased
>>83673964because leftists actually use quotations in reference to writers that have contributed in the past 500 years and rightists just yap about vague conceptions about plato. the right hates quotation and directly building off of existing structures of ideology. they basically just retread the same ground over and over rather than develop the sophistication of their school. it's why a book by someone like Jordan Peterson is possible to read for a layman but a book by Zizek requires external knowledge on subjects beyond pop culture.
>>83673957I could refute you saying the exact opposite of observable and factual reality, or I could treat you like you deserve to be treated: like a literal retard, you literal retard.
>>83673926leftist writing is boring while rightist writing has atlantis and magic n shiet, and turning the unwashed proles into bus fuel n sheeeet
>>83673189Some of liberal's narratives sound good on paper and compassionate and yet none of it ever actually materializes when they govern. I don't know how democrats do it and keep buying the lies they're fed year after year every election. You have to be willfully in denial. Sure republicans are full of shit in their own right pretending to care but what they say they want and what they do align up much more. If you're rich the right wing is fantastic for you.
>>83674019>leftism is borin- ACK!https://youtu.be/EcHBGs-5DlI?t=31
>>83673940>working shitty manual labor jobs with other uneducated people>life experiencekek nigga u forreal?
>>83674026>smegma and smegmalacrumyawn i want my magic fish peoples that speak in korean sigils
>>83673189To be one you have to not have a sense of self preservation so yeah makes sense
>>83674082>doesn't listen to the video i sentthanks for proving my argument for me
>>83673450I always find the "enlightened fencesitter/centrist" insult they mutter funny. The point of the two party system is to have some balance when making political decisions. All the parties value anymore is changing things for their party's sake regardless of if the country would benefit from it. For anybody with actual power these people are just tools to retain that power. So they'll trick them into spewing the same propaganda time and time again, and constantly get kicked down by even their own political parties.
>>83673926lolwut? most american lefties unironically think that trump is an evil fooscist because they don't even know what basic bitch populism is. it seems like if anything right wingers tend to understand lefties better than the inverse. the "elites" of either side will have read plenty of political theory of all ideologies so that is a meaningless distinction to make
>>83673189Not in the pre-woke economic sense where you believe that the rich should be taxed and those taxes should be put towards health care & affordable education or that both parents should be allowed to have paternity leave, etc.Same with being a right winger before all the maga incel shit. I totally get just wanting to raise your family on a farm & home-school them and go to church and to not pay taxes unless it's taxes that go directly towards the army.Internet culture wars is what mindbroke people
>>83674019>atlantis and magic n shietDo rightoids really?
>>83674202the highest standard is the only standard worth mentioning, since there's no limit to how low someone can stoop. I'm just saying moreso that the cultural output of leftism vastly outpaces the narrative from the right. It's sort of a fact of the right wing that it doesn't believe in intellectual elitism, because they believe the values imposed by the intuition of society are the standards of a good life. It's very stressed that logic is not contrary to God, rather than logic is assists in the process of knowing God. It's a weird apologetic line to make because it's very easy to say that the left is more intellectual but has "thinked itself to death" like Schopenhauer said. I don't really see you addressing anything at the core of my argument by appealing to the crowds. Vulgar people scratch at politics to give off the illusion of social refinement, without ever immersing in it. That's the truth of both sides.
>>83674243Yes those two are the current right wing prophets and 'atlantis magic' doesnt even scratch the surface.
>>83674249ill admit that I haven't read enough philosophy to really offer a proper counter-rebuttal to your argument here, but right wingers are not exclusively religious/subservient to a higher power nor are they inherently opposed to intellectualism. I think that is more of a modern (and stupid) reaction to the fact that, currently in society, left wingers tend to be overrepresented in those fields. I'm not sure what exactly we would define as the "highest" standard, but at least in academia you see these social science studies that support widely debunked views such as Tabula Rasa with hilariously bad and debunkable methodology coming all the time from the academic left. A lot of even highly standing left wingers seem to fall into the moralistic fallacy of believing that what they believe to be moral is also correct. Not that I'm denying that, again, the rank and file of the right can be fairly ignorant as well.
>>83674340I am just defining the highest standard by my arbitrary aesthetic, not any objective meter. But you're right that it's not a rigorous definition.There are a lot of problems on the left. >I'm not sure what exactly we would define as the "highest" standard, but at least in academia you see these social science studies that support Is a valid critique.To build on previously established intellectual discourse, you start to stack some houses of cards on top of each other. This is the same thing that happened to Platonism in the mideval period, and you start to get some psuedo-magical thinking in academia. I would argue though that the method of writing and rebutting is inherently more intellectual for a theoretical framework than what the right does. I would argue that the right uses a retrogressive, normative lens of the world to peel backwards, while leftists are more theoretical and proscriptive. This is especially in reference to ethics, where the right wing basically always takes the normative side of the debate while leftists are usually the progressives. When the right does become progressive, it is with reference to some imagined past model of society. They have no internal framework for revision within their discourse, as the past has to always be exalted.
>>83674386>I'm not sure what exactly we would define as the "highest" standard, but at least in academia you see these social science studies that support widely debunked views such as Tabula Rasa with hilariously bad and debunkable methodology coming all the time from the academic left. A lot of even highly standing left wingers seem to fall into the moralistic fallacy of believing that what they believe to be moral is also correct. i messed up the quote, sorry.
>>83673514>authoritarianpeople who want authoritarianism are either brain dead retards who need to be told what to think, feel and do. Or they think they would be, or close to the big man in charge
>>83674407or they're people who realise that every society outside of modern liberalism is/ was authoritarian, you idiot, and they're very obviously not that bad
Leftism is the superior economic model, you're a raped kike.
>>83674386>When the right does become progressive, it is with reference to some imagined past model of society. They have no internal framework for revision within their discourse, as the past has to always be exalted.Yeah I think I agree with you on this. There are some schools of right wing thought such as Hoppeanism which tend to get more into the theoretical of how their envisioned society would function, but this group seems to be a lot smaller in scale when compared to left wing anarchists and communists which seem much more numerous.The more individualist side of the right tends to be less normative, but conservatives on average are pretty much what you are describing.
>>83674019Yeah this is what it boils down to. Give me mystical pew pew pew.
>>83673926Reading political "theory" slop is the problem. Neither side has read actual economics.
>>83674483I don't know if I would ever be able to define a right winger as an individualist. That would be like a definitional bridge for me where I'd have to say they were something else entirely than the conservative body. There are great thinkers on both sides for sure, but intuiting a general balance of the sides is more of a structural question of contemporary ideology I guess. Literally speaking, left wing was the Whigs. I don't think that accurately describes the left wing though. The right is much the same. A false political binary has turned our social theories into two monstrosities with infinitely many ugly tentacles. Christian Nationalism isn't the same as Anarcho Capitalism.
>>83674533Keynes was a bad accountant. He counted so many things multiple times in his formulations of economic structure. We're actively seeing our current financial crisis because of blindly taking economic theory at face value. Whenever bad things happened, we were assured the theoreticals disagreed with our personal understanding of life. Both the leftists who never bought into the capitalist system and the rightists who feel they sold the soul of their nation to greed and corruption. People that believe human beings are economic data slates out to die, sincerely. They're amoral sociopaths that actively debase human dignity and commit subversion far worse than any leftist.
>>83673249>wanting to change beauty standards because most are ugly, wanting to criminalize criticizing obesity because most are fatYeah.
The fucked up part is it has to be all or nothing. Democracy is the most evil system because it only works to deny people rights. We need horrible law, let's vote on it yes or no. No? We need horrible law, let's vote on it yes or no. Repeat until it finally passes. It's perfectly viable to make an opt in system. Even if it's something bullshit like a cable television package and there's only a set number of a thousand, 100, or even 20 presets. Most voters are single issue and don't even get the option of being represented. Call the presets parties and it's all good. Want higher taxes and banned shit then just tick the box. Tax rate is 80%, guns and drugs illegal, no free speech, all that stuff but it only applies to you. But free healthcare as long as the party coffers don't hit 0. People who don't want sky high taxes and things banned just pick that. Guns are legal but only for them, they have more money to buy stuff with, but they have to use their money instead of other people's.
>>83673759thank you!>>83673949cute evil kitty
>>83673189>supports capitalism>doesn't own any capitalI don't get thisif you're not rich and not some kind of socialist you're just stupid and self-sabotaging
>>83674879There's a reason why prohibitions on covetousness are a part of the ten commandments. Like the 20th century is still within living memory.
>>83674879I own four gold coins and five shares of a Georgian bank. Can I be a capitalist?
Well, I agree, but it really depends on what one would consider "leftism".Modern leftism and identity politics exhibit clear cognitive dissonance and retarded nonsense; people who have truly studied and understand this are mentally ill, but there are no reasons why a sane person wouldn't be able to support a sane, non-Marxist, socialism or something. Also, reactionary socialism is kinda based.>>83673926The right is, unfortunately, pretty retarded. We have a lot to learn from the left in this regard.>>83673926True, but it shouldn't be an excuse for us to not read Lenin or Foucault.
>>83675014I was supposed to quote >>83674019 , I'm retarded.
>>83673189There's a lot of fucking retards out tonight, that's for sure.
>>83673189this is true actually. leftoids entire schtick is being angry about existing and trying to ruin things for normal people
>>83675014>We have a lot to learn from the left in this regard.You don't have to read garbage leftist "thought" however. You simply can look at history and see how their ideas have literally never ever once worked, which means the underlying "theory" is wrong.
>>83673514>I want muh kings back! God, I can't wait to be a serf again!Absolutely owned, mind and soul. Worthless cattle like you shouldn't be allowed to vote or reproduce.
>>83674812>thank you!do you take drawing requests
>>83674957How many properties do you and your family own?What yearly dividends do they return?(If you answered "Huh?" to either question, you are not a capitalist, but a useful flunky of someone who is)
>>83675171It's good to read them, so you can at least understand other points of view and not limit yourself. Many of the criticisms made by them are actually valid, can't say the same about the solutions, doe.
>>83675206My family owns properties, but the properties don't pay dividends. Guess we must be doing something wrong.
>>83675274So you don't rent your properties, they just sit empty?I'm not talking about a house you live in, I'm talking about investment real estate.
>>83675271the whole criticisms thing is mostly just cope though. The issue with leftists is they are good at criticizing, but also completely, utterly incompetent at building/fixing/changing anything because they're retards. So they spend their entire lives making everything worse, so not only can normal people not make it better, they have to spend half their time fighting off leftists making everything worse
>>83675196nigga EVERY western society used to be authoritarian. republics, empires, revolutionary governments. it's not just"monarchy" which is a ridiculous term anyway as many liberal democracies are also constitutional monarchies
>>83675381Yeah, and check what life was like for the average person pre-Napoleonic revolution.Just because you aren't in an official "Kingdom" doesn't mean your ass wasn't someone else's property. Fuck Europe didn't even establish human rights until the 1950s.Why would you want that? Are you too dumb to make your own decisions? Do you want Daddy Lord/Prince/Emperor to protect you? Fag.
>>83675423>pre-Napoleonic revolutionoh my bad, you're an idiot. no wonder you're a liberal lmao
>>83673228Not all retards or mental defectives are leftists, but all leftists are retards or mental defectives.
>>83673189They literally are lol
>>83675853the fact that you think this only shows that you are lacking.
its deliciously ironic youtube
>>83673189I've been to both rightoid rallies, liberal rallies, and lefty rallies.rightoids are ugly, dysgenic, and actually retarded. theyre like actual hill people or the descendants of them. many of them can't even read. they're not just stupid but irrationally angry and aggressive all the time. it's like the stereotype of niggers chimping out but applied to white people. they're ALL like this too at least at the Trump rally I went to with a friend.liberals are almost always the most attractive, most "normal", and the most naive due to living an easy life. they're easy to get along with but always have this air of superiority that makes me hate them.lefties range from incredibly ugly to incredibly hot but are always the most intelligent but also the most antisocial and difficult to get along with, even as a leftist myself. they can be so fucking annoying thinking they're the smartest person in the room even when surrounded by other leftists. all the hot goth chicks are lefties tho so i can't stop going to the protests.
>>83675918it's true and self evident . not going debate some retard about it
>>83676193you're actually unknowingly self-reporting on your own metacognitive lack. you can't model another mind in which those views are locally rational so you have to explain it away by pathology. some guy above thinks leftists are "evil" even. >>83673926it goes deeper than that
>>83675918the fact you think he's wrong only shows that you are lacking.
>>83676242not really. i can understand why he thinks the way he does.
>>83676250not really. you can't understand anything
>>83676241>some guy above thinks leftists are "evilbecause they are you fucking retard lol
>>83674019>Ieftist writing is boring while rightist writing has atlantis and magic n shiet, and turning the unwashed proles into bus fuel n sheeeet
>>83673228>>83673189And the only reason you think that is because you're retarded and evil.Cope and seethe a little more.
bumpthe replies itt thread shows leftists to be complete midwits unable to refute any actual points
*sits down in front of you**bites and scratches you if you move too much*
>>83673189Ultimately leftism is effeminate and appeals to women and homosexuals.
>>83676947Agreed. Rightoids deserved to be shoved into a big meat grinder with the words "mental asylum" written on it.
