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Is there a good reason to do no fap if you're an incel? If you at least have the option to get laid or it at least happens at an ok clip (at least once a month) I can see why you wouldn't want to goon, but if you've havent gotten any cheeks in years, what's the point in not gooning? I get maybe not wanting to use porn or to not do it every day, but not doing it at all seems counter-productive.
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>>83673362
I think it's a sliding scale of getting addicted to porn for some people. I've masturbated all of my life, but I've never "gooned". Porn was always just a means to an end. I can quit it and resume any time I want with no issue. I could fap with just mental images, albeit it is harder.

If you want to maintain any semblance of normalcy, it's probably best to not goon. Porn definitely fucks the way our brain interprets women. It gamifies them. Puts them on a pedestal. It will make it a lot harder to reintegrate once an opportunity for a relationship does arise.
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>>83673408
Nigger what? Porn removes them from the pedestal.
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>>83673362
if you are an incel and abstain from masturbation you are just making your life more miserable not to mention that regular ejaculation is healthy for the body, as long as you are not addicted or gooning to degenerate shit it is fine
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>>83673408
OK what's the difference between gooning and jerking off?
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>>83673435
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gooning
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>>83673435
Gooning is jacking off for an extended period of time without cumming til the very end. IE: this morning I gooned to loli chatbots for 3 hours. My dick felt like it was going to explode until I came with the force of a thousand subs.
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>>83673441
>>83673458

Isn't this what everyone does? I don't know how some people stay on the edge for hours, feels like one move and you're over the edge.
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>>83673423
Ejaculation being key to this. Those motherfuckers who "no fap" but then edge everyday for weeks on end without releasing have no clue how brutally they are fucking up their prostate gland
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It's a physiologic pump system. Semen gets produced and it has to go somewhere. If it doesn't, it just sits there and down regulates production and your testes go into dormancy. So, at the very least you should ejaculate once every 1-2 weeks. You can easily go longer than that, and you'll feel a rush of energy and testosterone for a few weeks, but then if nothing happens, your brain interprets it as beta failure and goes into dormancy. In nature this is what happens to betas.
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>>83673579
I always felt like doing this shit is cope. Like either don't jerk off at all and just try to ejaculate through hooking up/partner, or jerk off every few days. Edging for hours but not releasing seems pointless and honestly not satisfying.
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>>83673362
fapping is only an issue if you do it because you're bored
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>>83674309

Honestly better to watch anime or work on your backlog of media than to goon
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>>83673362
nofap is like quitting alcohol: it doesn't do shit if you're a normal person, but those who are deep in addiction will tell you it gave them fucking superpowers and changed their life, because they're returning to a healthy baseline.
Test spikes and all that shit are bullshit. Nothing changes.
t. wore a chastity cage for a year with one release every month or two
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>>83673418
Ignore that retard, they're just making an emotional argument because they bought into the idea that porn bad because uhh, somehow it stops you from approaching even though you get rejected anyway. Like if you don't jerk off then magically they become attracted to you (they don't)
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>>83674786

I mean it CAN be bad, but it's better to jerk off than it is to find some whore at the bar and get her pregnant or get an STD
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How come most girl abs have the vertical middle line but not the little horizontal six pack lines?
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>>83676313
Body fat percentage and muscle definition. Women hold more fat than men, so they won't get the defined abs that men can get usually. A top elite woman athlete is still going to carry more fat than a top athletic man
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>>83674694
unironically i was the most productive when i wore a cage lmao



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