lemme groom u bbg

Nothing sadder than failed males who think being a girl would've solved all their problems rather than replacing them with a set of new ones.

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you can still be one anon(ny) dont give up..

>>83674913
>replacing them with a set of new ones.
Such as?

nothing's worse than a fucking tranny. don't let em get to you

>>83674886
Neanderthal simp behavior

>>83674970
ive got some medicine that will make you feel a lot better anon.

>>83674984
I'm not the simp, it's everyone else. I would love to be loved for simply being as I am, but that's just not possible, non-Chad men are disposable workhorses to everyone else. I'm the only human left in this world. Empathy is a dead practice.

why is there so much tranny contagion in literally everything.

"im broke" -> i should become a tranny
"im ugly" -> i should become a tranny
"no one likes me" -> i should become a tranny
"im depressed" -> i should become a tranny

the solution to everything seems to become a tranny. now tell me this isnt a hysterical mental illness. or tell me this isnt some kind of psy op. we have never had this problem before in history. no sane person uses this level of cope.

>>83675120
>we have never had this problem before in history.
We also never had the solution before in history.

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>>83675120
>the solution to everything seems to become a tranny
it's not op and people like them are just eggs and repressors
you see it a lot online because they don't go outside bro

>>83675144
Repression is a meme. Having inhibitions is a good thing, it prevents you from indulging in retarded delusions. Because mental health advocates have memed the opposite, that people should validate their feelings, that they should indulge in them, you have a bunch of deranged freaks who can't handle anything that isn't validation or coddling. I don't understand why people treat mental health like it's some carebear shit, if you want to get physically better, do you avoid all physical activity, everything that gives you discomfort?

>>83675144
I'm hrtrepping for almost 2 years. IWNBAW

>>83675120
>"im broke" -> i should become a tranny
wait who is suggesting this? every tranny I know is poor

>>83675177
You will never be XX, but you can be an XY woman if you work for it and have some genetic luck.

>t. hrtrepper who started to malefail

>>83675120
>"im broke" -> i should become a tranny
Absolutely not!
Poorfags should rep and get money. Then consider trooning out.
I don't want more hons out there.

>>83675208
>t. hrtrepper who started to malefail
Eventually it gets to the point where insisting on being a guy is weird and people would rather you just present the way you look. After 2 years hrt i started getting into trouble saying i was really a guy when before i would get into trouble saying i was really a girl. if you actually pass, people will gender you female even if you introduce yourself using a man's name. there's an inversion of your social role you can't just arbitrarily take back.

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>>83675177
>I'm hrtrepping for almost 2 years. IWNBAW
how bad is it, do u voice train at least or sound like pic rel

>>83675261
>there's an inversion of your social role you can't just arbitrarily take back
Yes. And I actually welcome it.
I didn't expect it to happen (especially so fast), but I'm glad this is the case.
I just didn't want to honmode, that's it.
I don't wanna be associated with the troon "community".
Once I pass better, I'll just quietly do my ID change, and that's it. I won't wear troon pins or any of that shit.
>if you actually pass, people will gender you female even if you introduce yourself using a man's name
I wish more troons understood this instead of letting brainworms kill their social life and ultimately fuck up their transition too.
I guess it helps that I'm not poor and can function as an adult. Heh.
Good luck to you too, nona! We're all gonna make it :)

>>83675309
full whiny fag man voice, can't live alone

>>83675339
Don't forget the shortcut - http://lena.kiev.ua/voice/
Once I got that muscle working as intended, voice training got super easy.
Just did the exercises in the park.
I'll probably still get a surgery too once I commit to permagirlmode.

>>83675339
there's a bunch of decent resources online if u want to actually do it
step from whiney fag voice isn't that far

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>>83675336
I'm a us citizen so I can't change my social security to female. I'm stuck with my cringe deadname in most things. So tired of getting comments about it. Having to do psychologist stuff and every listing is with male name and it annoys me. My therapist saw me and was like "um is that really your name or are you someone else because I'm supposed to have this meeting with ****" and my phone number is under that name and when i call in people think it's not me and give me trouble. it's such a miniscule, frustrating aspect of life but it starts to add up to demoralize me from doing anything.

>>83675167
>Having inhibitions is a good thing
I'm glad you never had to rep, anon. I'm serious! Be happy about that.
But no, repression is not a meme. It's hell.
>if you want to get physically better, do you avoid all physical activity, everything that gives you discomfort?
Nigga, trooning out is anything but avoiding physical discomfort.

>>83674886
not all women are pretty. if you were female you'd be ugly and disgusting like me and still unsatisfied

>>83675374
>I'm stuck with my cringe deadname in most things
Name change is still legal, no? Just do that.
Also, don't some states allow gender marker change as well?
Sure, federally is haram, but just change the name.
Here I need to have 2+ yrs of evidence that I've been living as the desired gender. Being on HRT counts as that, legally.
However, here name change is not permitted. If I want to change my name from Anon to Nona, the only legal reason permitted is if I've undergone GD therapy.
Thank fuck they don't accept (let alone require) pictures or social media. I've kept all of this away from social media. I quietly deleted my old social media a year ago and let the natural attention span of everyone do the magic.
You guys there can get a utility bill under your desired name just like that. Here it'd be a felony kek.
Legislative quirks are everywhere.

>>83675416
>Name change is still legal, no? Just do that.
>Also, don't some states allow gender marker change as well?
i dunno it happened so recently i was hoping itd get overturned or a way of doing things would reveal itself rather than having to do everything twice but things are just stupid.
at least there is literally a way of doing it in your country but it does still suck. being someone who eternally used to be a man rather than just a woman is a total humiliation ritual.
> I quietly deleted my old social media a year ago and let the natural attention span of everyone do the magic.
thats nice lol. im glad i was a wallflower in rep mode too cause theres no trace of my old life anywhere on the internet. sorry stuffs been a pain for you. what country are you in?

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>>83675374
move to canada
origami

>>83675461
>what country are you in?
Romania.
I hesitated to answer because there might be tranners from "the community" lurking. And I really don't like those people lul
It's a 20m country but trannies are rare and usually try to sprint to passoid. Which is great. But then there's "the community" which are all hons and deranged. Thank fuck they're not numerous and can't fuck up optics or bother the normies (like they did in the US) to the extent that normies start actively hating us.
If you pass, you're okay here. "Oh, you were born a boy? Wow!" and... that's it. Nobody gives af.
But if you don't pass... well... things can get rough. Being a flamboyant fag is acceptable. Non-passing troon, not so much.
>being someone who eternally used to be a man rather than just a woman is a total humiliation ritual
I'm genuinely surprised myself how well and laid-back I'm taking all of this.
Like... I just don't care? I'll do what I gotta do and... that's it.

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>>83675485
>move to canada
i can't really get a job outside the country to move to no matter how hard i look, you know? Otherwise I'd already be anywhere else. i dont have enough marketable skills to be worth a visa.

>>83675384
It is a meme, you're not repressing anything. You go to troon echo chambers and ruminate about trooning out all day. You indulge in delusions that you can be something you're not. This is probably the biggest miconception people have about mental health, that something can get out of your system by feeding it. For example, people think if they're angry, that if they had the oppurtunity to just go in a room and break whatever they want that the anger would go away when in fact the opposite happens. It goes away temporarily but it comes back because it's fuel is your attention. Does a fire go out if you feed it air and wood? Obviously not. Like begets like. Desire is not ceased because you feed it.
>Nigga, trooning out is anything but avoiding physical discomfort.
It was meant as an analogy, it's easier to understand that avoiding discomfort doesn't make one physically healthier. If you eat to your hearts content you get fat, being ok with some hunger is a good thing. If you laze around your body degenerates, being ok with some degree of physical pain/discomfort is a good thing. To be physically healthier you need to get stronger, you need to be more resilient, the same applies to your mental health. Validating your feelings is the opposite of mental health, that's mental degeneration.

>>83675510
valid and reasonable
we do have our own problems up here but have very decent cultural and legal views on gays and trans

>>83675512
>You go to troon echo chambers and ruminate about trooning out all day
You missed me with that one though.
I actively avoid troon spaces both IRL and online. I don't even talk about this outside of 4chan.
I understand you have your stereotypes about troons. And I'm sure in some cases they may even be partially true.
But your overall view is simply wrong.
>Validating your feelings is the opposite of mental health, that's mental degeneration
Yeah, whatever.
You try living with something eating up 70% of your brain bandwidth and then come back and explain it to me.
Again, be very happy you never had to go through this. I didn't want it either.
But, surprise, I like being alive AND functional. Repping only sorta guaranteed the former but actively made the latter impossible. Tough luck for me.
I live in a country that actually has your ideas about troons. Getting an official diagnosis is very hard and 100% of gender specialists (all 4 of them lol) are very skeptical (would be considered far right by tranny circles).
It's why I don't want to have anything to do with other trannies in my country. As soon as they found out that I got the diagnosis in just a month they all wanted to know what I told them. Too bad I'm not sharing such details with anyone.

>>83675508
>I'm genuinely surprised myself how well and laid-back I'm taking all of this.
>Like... I just don't care? I'll do what I gotta do and... that's it.
that's good. sorta relatable. you definitely get used to changes in your own life fast.
i don't really blame trans people for what happened to us in the US. people used us as objects for their performative ideology and then abandoned us like our lives mean nothing. the most annoying trans advocacy didn't come from most of us. stuff like mandatory laws and 3+ gender markers just came from bored people with a hobby for politics, not trans people struggling through the experience. Whenever I talk to an "anti-trans" person I'm always one of the good ones. Then I go like where are the bad ones and they're always like "oh i heard about them" or something. cause 1 obnoxious hon shouts over 10000 conforming, functional trans girls.

i wonder what caused the sudden paradigm shift from troons being called traps and generally accepted to being widely hated online anyway
think about this sometimes

>>83675512
>It was meant as an analogy, it's easier to understand that avoiding discomfort doesn't make one physically healthier. If you eat to your hearts content you get fat, being ok with some hunger is a good thing. If you laze around your body degenerates, being ok with some degree of physical pain/discomfort is a good thing.
i mean nta but for a practical example I used to vomit in the sink whenever I had to use the bathroom becasue I needed to look in the mirror. It was constantly upsetting and made me really unhappy to no productive end. Now it feels better. It's fucking weird to look in the mirror and be like "oh right, im actually a boy" every time. no amount of social conditioning makes instincts like that just go away. the analogy is closer to the food one where you were talking about. If you're constantly hungry and can't stop thinking about food, you're starving and probably gonna die if you don't do something about it.

>>83675593
because they tried to convince the world they were real women and began to demand being let into women's sports, bathrooms, locker rooms, sleepovers etc.

>>83675566
Overall it is correct, that is the case for most trannies. They are perma online in echo chambers feeding their delusions.
>You try living with something eating up 70% of your brain bandwidth and then come back and explain it to me.
If something is eating up most of your brain bandwidth, that is called mental rumination. Vast majority of people don't know they do this and they've never been taught how to address their mind or their thoughts. I know this because I have dealt with and deal with mental issues and realized they are self-inflicted (though I'm not a troon). The root cause of basically every mental problem comes from rumination, from feeding certain thoughts. You need to develop a meta-awareness and learn how to not feed them if you want to get better.

>>83675599
>being let into women's sports, bathrooms, locker rooms, sleepovers etc.
you realize this is how it always was, just that the criteria was way stricter? like if you get a sex change you shouldnt have to use the urinals, sorry if that's unreasonable to you or whatever but that's a public humiliation ritual.

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>>83675599
did they though or is that a few weirdos and propaganda
my experience with them is much different than this current narrative

>>83675574
>cause 1 obnoxious hon shouts over 10000 conforming, functional trans girls
If that is the ratio (I have no idea, maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong), then taking back "the community" is an imperative, imo.
I'm actually lowkey thinking of doing just that here since the hons and theyfabs didn't get to spread that much and that fast like in the US.
At some point cleaning house will be necessary.

>the most annoying trans advocacy didn't come from most of us
Sure. But it did come from the most annoying ones.
Like, take the sports issue which really turned a lot of normies from 'who gives a shit about trannies?' to 'gas the trannies' over there in the US.
It's not like MTFs are being forced onto girls' sports teams is it? No, specific MTFs had to demand to play, or this wouldn't be an issue. And my chud opinion is that every one of those specific MTFs is a selfish cunt who deserves a brick caving in their skull. They chose to hurt ALL THE REST OF US instead of just sitting the fuck out of school sports. Guess what? Not everyone gets to do sports anyway - people have disabilities or are out of shape or simply aren't well suited to the activity. We don't let every short guy who identifies as 6'6'' play on the basketball team, do we? So maybe you could not be an entitled bitch, keep your retard mouth shut, and just find another hobby?
And it also didn't help that saying this was censored (no matter who said it). This created an unhealthy echo-chamber.
Now we're reaping the results.

How old are you?
I'm 24.

>>83675623
also curious anon here, i agree with this generally that it has always been the case
mfers just trying to piss and not get harassed

>>83675596
You've discovered a band-aid solution to your problem. There is never any scenario where untruth and delusion is a long term fix to anything. Often times confronting your own demons will bring mental anguish, most people walk around distracting themselves so as to never feel the weight of it.

>>83675649
>most people walk around distracting themselves so as to never feel the weight of it
Yeah nigga, we are not most people.
You're being purposefully obtuse.
Most people are fine with their gender identity. Great. I'm genuinely happy for them. I wish I were like that too. But I'm not.
And no amount of distraction and soothing that "other people are troons, not me" is going to change that.

>>83674913
I haven't approached the thought because I wouldn't know how to become one. I think I understand how girls think and why they act a certain way, but girls have their own little society and that is completely alien to me

>>83675667
You are most people, you live a lie, you live under delusion, like most people do. Even though most people would be better off accepting reality instead of living in lies and delusions, they would be temporarily under a lot of mental anguish having to confront all the fantasies they've built in their mind. It's not about being fine with their gender identity, it's about accepting reality. Most people don't accept reality, troons are no different because they don't accept their actual gender. Do what you wish, my problem is they mascerade this as mental health when it's the opposite. There's nothing mentally healthy about living in lies and delusions. There is no greater peace than accepting the truth.

>>83675701
masquerade*
typo

>>83675701
>troons are no different because they don't accept their actual gender
nigga, did you read any of my comments?
Obviously not. Because if you have, you would've noticed something.
Done engaging with you.
You're an idiot even by chud standards.

>>83675635
i mean, realistically, better than reassembling a community or making a loud protest to what's happening, I think we're better off making sexual minorities a taboo conversational topic again. As long as it's a don't ask don't tell sort of situation, normies forget about us. No amount of self-policing or goldilocks trannyism will stop a Jessica Yaniv from spawning and cratering any progress we've made.
Ideologies and talking points didn't normalize gay people. Knowing somebody who was that way and a good person is what does it. We're emotional and interpersonal. Our best bet is just being the best people we can at all times and asking the world to accept our honest selves. Shifts in social sentiment will eventually detrans those that are weak willed or of poor moral character. Already happening with self-id HRT femboys and such.
im 24 as well lol. started at 18 when i could.
>>83675638
yeah, i think a lot of people spent their whole lives never learning but now that they're forced to confront it they get angry.
>>83675649
I don't see why you assume I'm living in untruth and delusion. If someone is diabetic and gets on insulin they're not living a lie because they're hiding their diabetes symptoms from the world. I literally just look how i want, talk how i want, dress how i want, etc. None of my presentation in inauthentic to me. I'm very happy with who I am and no longer feel a weird desync between how i want to be and how I am. Instead of feeling it everywhere I feel it only in my sexual organ now and it's much more manageable.

haha im a girl and you are not. boohoo boohoo ur a moid ur a moid ur a moid and im not

>>83675724
I've read you perfectly fine, you felt incredible mental anguish at the fact your looks didn't reflect how you wanted to be or felt you were. You made the wrong choice and delve further into delusion and lies by embracing the larp. Of course this made you feel better, inner conflict brings mental anguish. When people deal with incredible attachments it usually feels like hell letting it go. You troons are not that special that you're exempt from the common thread between all the things that cause humans suffering, the ignorance and refusal to accept truth. To let go of the desires and attachments that keep bringing them pain.

>>83675761
>I don't see why you assume I'm living in untruth and delusion.
Because none of those actions reflect the truth. It would be different if you were just a feminine man, or a crossdresser. A feminine man is simply a man who's feminine, a crossdresser is a man who wears "woman's" clothes. These are examples of people being authentic to themselves, trying your best to be something you're not and can never be is not authentic. I'm not surprised you feel better either, mental anguish usually comes from polarization and inner conflict. Mental health is overcoming the inner conflict and accepting truth, to let go of delusions, attachments, and desires which bring you pain. Of course, you can also simply refuse that and then the mental anguish from the inner conflict goes away, that's why I called it a band aid solution. Most people end up doing this.

>>83675804
oh mb, might have responded to the wrong tranny here.

>>83675888
An example of what I mean by polarization and inner conflict is that fat people, people highly addicted to food, can feel a lot of guilt and shame for their actions. They feel a lot of anguish from the fact they're fat and they don't want to be fat. Some fat people feel this and decide to lose weight, other fat people feel this and decide to go full healthy at every size meme and being unashamed of their size, even embracing it. Of course simply embracing it would end that inner conflict but it means you failed.

Typical grass is greener bs.

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>>83675888
>Because none of those actions reflect the truth. It would be different if you were just a feminine man, or a crossdresser. A feminine man is simply a man who's feminine, a crossdresser is a man who wears "woman's" clothes.
I'm not a man though? When I wear women's clothes I'm not crossing anything. I'm just normaldressing. When I'm feminine that isn't one of my feminine male traits that's just one of my traits. When I have feminine features they're just one of my features. If something is male about me that stands out more than the rest. I have no ties to manhood.
>Mental health is overcoming the inner conflict and accepting truth, to let go of delusions, attachments, and desires which bring you pain
That's denial. You're basically advocating for depression and dissociation. An inner conflict only reaches your heart when there is truth on both sides. True wisdom is in seeing the contradictions within our nature and embracing both sides as parts of reality. We're imperfect, yet strive for goodness in all things. We're going to die, but we want to live to the fullest. That's the beauty of life to me. I can't ever perfectly be female but I'm doing my best and my best is good enough for me.

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bets on the chud poster in here being an egg
or do you think those types just really like thinking about this and typing about this all day for fun

>>83676019
It's not denial, denial is the opposite, it's when people live in a tapestry of their own fantasies. Acceptance is stepping out and seeing truth. If you are apart from reality, that's dissociation.
> An inner conflict only reaches your heart when there is truth on both sides.
Conflict by definition presupposes mutual exclusivity. The fat person has an inner conflict between their addiction to food and their wish to be healthier, there is not truth in both of these. These are mutually exclusive, you cannot be addicted to food and be healthy. If the fat person were to embrace their addiction to food, even feel pride in it, inner conflict is gone, the unhealthy condition they're in is not gone though. Wisdom in it's original defintion was synonymous with truth, seeing the polarities in reality yet being between it, not about embracing them, but accepting them. You want to be in the eye of the storm, where there's calm, between all polarities, not out in the storm where there's a bunch of agitation and disturbances. That's what it means to let go of delusions, attachments, and desire which bring you pain.

>>83676155
>The fat person has an inner conflict between their addiction to food and their wish to be healthier, there is not truth in both of these. These are mutually exclusive, you cannot be addicted to food and be healthy.
You made a false equivalency here. When you set up the analogy, you said the wish to be healthier and the addiction to food. Both of those ARE true. That's why there is an inner conflict.
>If the fat person were to embrace their addiction to food, even feel pride in it, inner conflict is gone, the unhealthy condition they're in is not gone though
this is also false. If somebody tries to suppress their desire to be healthy or to look good, they still feel shame about it. Doesn't matter how deeply you bury it, becoming skinny won't make you hate the taste of ice cream. You're lying to yourself by pretending like your feelings are all rational impulses that exist in the space of reason.
I was born a male but I want to be a female is how I've felt my whole life. Just as true, I want to be a female... but I was born a male. Delusion would be becoming totally unable to accept my past, but it would be equally delusional to pretend like I was happy spending my whole life with a masculine body. If somebody is fat and wants to be healthy, you don't insult them when they go from being 30 bmi to 25. The progress they made towards their ideal self is admirable. Just because my biology makes some things impossible doesn't mean every step I take towards being comfortable in my own body is meaningless.
>You want to be in the eye of the storm, where there's calm, between all polarities, not out in the storm where there's a bunch of agitation and disturbances.
no you don't. If you spend your whole life in the eye of the storm, you'll never escape it. You need to get through those tensions eventually to find clear waters.

>>83676212
They're only true in the sense they both exist, I do not deny both exist. One is the correct path the other is the wrong path.
> If somebody tries to suppress their desire to be healthy or to look good, they still feel shame about it. Doesn't matter how deeply you bury it, becoming skinny won't make you hate the taste of ice cream.
Of course
>You're lying to yourself by pretending like your feelings are all rational impulses that exist in the space of reason.
Reason is the tool to discern and guide impulses, feelings are of course not necessarily rational. If I have an impulse to eat even though I'm fat, with reason I realize that it's a bad idea to listen to that impulse
>no you don't. If you spend your whole life in the eye of the storm, you'll never escape it. You need to get through those tensions eventually to find clear waters.
Well that was the intention of my analogy. You're out where there's agitation and disturbance, you want to be where there's peace and calm even if that means treading dangerous waters.

Here's where I think you go wrong, you want to be female, but you're born a male, that's where the conflict came that gave you incredible anguish. Wanting to be something you can never be is an irrational impulse, it's a denial of reality. If it's something you can never achieve, you will be definition never be fulfilled. You use an analogy of a fat person being closer to their ideal self, but it doesn't work with gender. If a fat person lost more weight, they are more healthy. But if you become more feminine, that doesn't make you more of a woman.

>>83676317
Furthermore, even regarding femininity and masculinity, though there are rare exceptions, a man will almost never be as feminine as even the most masculine women. A masculine woman will almost never be as masculine as the average man. Think about for example just how weak women are compared to women, even the weakest men are stronger than most women. But it's not just one trait, it's a whole bunch of traits, your bone structure, your development in the embryo, etc etc

>>83676336
will almost never be as masculine as the most feminine men*

>>83674886
I'd assume most if not all of the women who end up here wouldn't be described as cute.

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>>83676317
>But if you become more feminine, that doesn't make you more of a woman.
Yeah it does. This is where life experience comes in and we have to leave hypotheticalville.
Just because I'm an imitation doesn't mean my existence goes against reality. Veggie bacon can never be real meat, but it's still a type of bacon. And that's cause of the way it tastes and how it's cooked, etc.
People that performatively hate veggie bacon are a lot like transphobes. It doesnt even directly impact your life and you sound like an obnoxious retard going
>heh... well it hasn't come from a pig so they better not force me to call it bacon. these delusional vegetarians eating something that is trying to be meat even though it will never achieve it. what angish they must be experiencing living in this contradiction!!!"
People that eat veggie bacon are just enjoying the taste, the same way I enjoy my femininity. I call what I experience womanhood because that's what the experience looks like to others and feels like to me. Just because my body was born a certain way doesnt mean it's rational to keep it that way. I avoid a lot of suffering by aligning my body with my deep-rooted emotions.

>>83676379
You do not reflect what you are, when there's a dissonance between what you are and how you feel, those feelings are invalid. Nearly all conflict in the world and conflict within people comes from the fact people think their feelings and beliefs are more important than truth. In a way that does affect me, I don't want to live in a society of mass psychosis.

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>>83676336
Yeah, so you have to decide if looking less attractive is worth the internal harmony with your identity. If I could train my whole life to become the greatest yodeler on earth, I still wouldn't care enough to do it. How I appear to other people literally hurts until they see me as a woman. I can't force people to see me a certain way but I can influence myself to give a different impression. Girls thought i was attractive as a teenager sometimes and it made my skin crawl because it was the male body they liked not who I really was.
>>83676451
>there's a dissonance between what you are and how you feel
you don't know what I am or how I feel. you're not me. I'm sick of you retards thinking that your ad-hoc labelling is more "reality" than the life I've been living. Life isn't stored in the chromosomes. There is literally nothing psychotic about using the name and pronouns that make a trans person comfortable. what is psychotic is thinking you can read other people's minds and tell them when their suffering isn't valid. Like sincerely, fuck you.

>>83675120
Not a tranny but:
>"im broke" -> i should become a tranny
If you are a feminine looking creature, you will find a male who wants to take care of you
>"im ugly" -> i should become a tranny
If you are a feminine looking creature, you fill find males willing to fuck you and hug you tight
>"no one likes me" -> i should become a tranny
If you are a tranny, you will find a community to be part of
>"im depressed" -> i should become a tranny
You will no longer be depressed when you have sex, affection, friends, and someone willing to pay your bills

>>83676451
>Nearly all conflict in the world and conflict within people comes from the fact people think their feelings and beliefs are more important than truth.
Also I forgot to say this is such a stupid truism.
>my side is the rational side and people that don't agree with me are irrational
>sigh... if everybody was just rational like me we would have no conflict on earth
>facts don't care about your feelings
like no you just have no theory of mind or ability to sympathize with people whose experiences are difficult for you to understand. why is it a fact that the feelings of others don't matter? who wrote the rule in the book of natural law that creatures can't change their gender. clownfish do it. why can't people? your autistic fixation on the binary normative gender system is an irrational attachment within yourself that comes from being uncomfortable when a trans person challenges your concept of man and woman. if you were a purely rational being, nothing would ever upset you because it's just another data point. you're a human being pretending to be a robot, and your blindness to your own process of judgement makes you short-sighted

i am a hrtrepper, at least i can be glad i will never have to deal with women

>>83675120
if you could actually become a girl it would be the solution to all those problems tho. unironically. i mean you cant, but still.

I'm not. My husband calls me a dirty old hag all the time!

>>83674913
Dysphoria is a type of inner pain with your body, anon. It's not just caused by gendered social interactions.

>>83677374
Yeah. It's like a dissociative pain in your body

love that pang of pain i get when i look in the mirror, love having to tank that every single day for the rest of my life because a chud on 4chan says i have to

>>83675761
>Shifts in social sentiment will eventually detrans those that are weak willed or of poor moral character. Already happening with self-id HRT femboys and such
That is true, to an extent.
Though hrtfemboys aren't quite the issue as theyfabs lul. I know one and he basically uses hrt as a looksmaxxing tool and he's such a fun person to be around.
To use your analogy with diabetes, it's like diabetics would be upset that non-diabetics use ozempic to lose weight. If someone derives a benefit from hrt, more power to them.
But you're certainly correct on the interpersonal thing. The priest in my hometown changed his mind about troons because he knows me. He baptized me and saw me growing up.
No amount of propaganda can convince him to compare me with Yaniv, lol.
>im 24 as well lol. started at 18 when i could.
Good for you. I repped for a while. I really wanted to believe that other people are troons, but not me.
Given how well and fast things are going, it's clear that I was wrong, even though I wish things were different.
Hugs.

this conversation is really interesting.
don't let this thread die so soon

>>83674886
I hate moids, but I hate moids like you more because life simply doesn't get better because I have a fucking pussy, especially when I am extremely ugly. You freaks watch porn and cutesy anime thinking we are all love live girls or something when I spent all of my teenage days getting bullied and wishing I put fire on myself just like that girl from "Girl, Interrupted". And not even being Stacy is a guarantee because being hot doesn't give immunity to car accidents like one happened to one stacy from my old school, so your life won't get better when you can't walk anymore if you have a vagina.

>>83675120
I have another kind of solution for them, one they tried in the forties but they used on wrong people

>>83679516
>life simply doesn't get better because I have a fucking pussy
Yeah, life doesn't get better with having every single step of life being purposefully affirmative action'd in your favor.
>especially when I am extremely ugly
gender quotas are appearance neutral
the ugliest foids still have a far better life than hard working mid men.

>>83679544
Oh, yeah I get affirmative action everyday. Fuck off, I just know you haven't worked a day in life because you have to show your face in interviews

>>83677345
I mean yeah this is essentially it is it really that inconceivable that in a world where women just get shit handed to them and men have to work for every dollar, job and crumb of pussy it's crazy people would want to be the gender that had it easier

I don't think it vas anything to do with trooning since most of these people would be happy if they were men but gender roles were flipped it's not any different from a nigger wishing they were white or a poorfag wishing they weren't

>>83674886
Turn around and put a paper bag on your head. I'll take you from behind once or twice if you're a good girl anyway.

>>83674886
for your past sins