do you consider greeks to be white
>>83683874Yes, even though they are of a different haplogroup. Scandis are as well, and they are actually more related to the people that got eradicated by modern continental europeans than Greeks.
>>83683874Iberians, greeks, romans, levantines, semites, egyptians etc all(at least were) an olive group of fellas. Though iberians have a weird subset of pale people from the visigoths moving down long ago, but this all changed with arabization
>>83683874Any native yuro is "white" even if they don't have a pale complexion Note: Semites (bar Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews), Turks and Roma are NOT whiteCaucasians, Ibers and Kartvelian ethnic groups ARE white, though
Skibidi yeserino
>>83683874Yes but Hollywood doesn't because they're too "ethnic"
I mainly keep to the old 4 race classification. They are caucasoids and therefore white. Simple.
yes, people having fun is a whitoid thing
>>83683874no, and neither are italians>>>/pol/
>>83684007The "arabization" of Iberia has long been disproved. The ethnically arab population reached a peak of only 3% in the peninsula, and berbers (who are not genetically so different from southern europeans) 7%. Most of the population in Al-Andalus were the ancient native population of roman, celto-iberian and germanic mixed stock who converted to Islam. And by the 15th century thanks to the Reconquista, the Spanish crown pretty much ethnically cleansed the southern half of the peninsula by expelling or killing the vast majority of muslims (not mattering if they were arabs/berbers or white iberians) and replaced the previous population with settlers from the christian northern iberian kingdoms.
>>83684107>of iberiaI was more talking about egypt and the levant for that, egypt especially
>>83684125Oh I see now, sorry for misreading that. And yeah, I agree with you in that case.
>>83684084Ok mehmet, extra lamb on my doner this time or I'm getting gyros
>>83683885The scandinavian haplogroup is actually closer to arabs and jews than indo europeans
>>83684195Ok saar
Ancient Greeks, yes. Modern Greeks no.
>>83684227explain without giving your ethnicity away
>>83684227Came here to post exactly this.And apparently get muted in the process.
>>83684227>Ancient Greeks, yes. Modern Greeks no.That's /thread/ ladies and gentlemen.
>>83684232NTA but population drift is a thing.
>>83684224>Haplagroup I (scandinavians) is a descendant of IJ>Haplogroup J (Middle easterners) is a descendant of IJ>Most europeans belong to haplogroup RDescendant of haplogroup K
>>83684276>*Haplogroup R is a descendant of haplogroup KSwedes always were ayrabs
>>83684249Yeah, but here's the thing, modern greeks are genetically and linguistically indistinct from ancient greeks save for genetic admixture and assimilation throughout history. Admixture itself from neighboring groups is not replacement of a population, that's just what happens when communities interact
>>83684289NNNOOOO XAAR WE WUZ GREEKZ TOO!! WE COMMIT PEDERASTY AND KEEP GREEK CULTURE ALIVE BETTER THAN ACTUAL GREEKZ OGAY XAAAAAR???
>>83684289>modern greeks are genetically the same as ancient greeks>except when you take into account their genes being differentkek
>>83684312Nta but yes that's what happens, it's not because trojans went to england with the stone of scone
>>83684312Yes. Do you think modern Italians are 1 to 1 identical to Romans, or that the average French person living in the countryside is genetically identical with his ancient Gaul ancestors, or that Marsh Arabs are 1 to 1 identical with Sumerians? Go take an anthropology course, Anon. Your CK2 save is not indicative of real life
>>83684312>We must inbreed to keep our lineage PVRE
>>83684329No, no, and no. I never gave any indication that I thought otherwise either. I fail to see the reason for the disbelief. Let me instead use Texas for the example instead of Greece. Texans used to be white. Than population drift happened with our neighbor, Mexico. Texas is no longer considered white. This is after less than 100 years. So for the thousands of years for Greece? Not unheard of. The original question wasn't "is this group the exact same genetics bar no exception", it's, with more words, "do you consider this modern group X, and if so, do you consider the ancient group who bears the same name as also X?"
>>83684348>you must either commit inbreeding or outbreeding depression
>>83684362>Texas is no longer considered white.>Texas>Is no longer considered white.AXAXAXAXA OH MY GOD DO BURGERS REALLY
>>83683874They are white. Curry tier thread.
>>83684374Average Amerimutt logic at play, please understand
Thats not what population drift means btb
>>83684362Incredible anonYou could have said nothing and you instead chose to out yourself as twice as big a retard
>>83684387>>83684382itt: fartskinned larpers trying to jeetsplain european demographics for the 999th time
everyone knows your ruse OP. you're not slick
>>83684374>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Texas>white alone: 39%
>>83684397It's ironic because that in and of itself helps his point, only someone with absolute mystery meat heritage could produce such a mutt statement.
>>83684420>Read>Statistics show white majorityCongratulations you are also mathematically illiterate now too
>>83684420something something 56%/pol/post o algo
>>83684453Any stats that allow for hispanic to appear white are simply false, no different than the darkest nigger to claim himself as white for the lulz which affect official crime statistics.>>83684479I make no claims on most of the world. I can tell you definitively only that Texas isn't and Greece isn't.
>>83684610>No claims on most of the world>Posts about another part of the worldRanjesh...
Poorly disguised divide et impera attempts belong on >>>/pol/ indeed.Shalom!
>>83684658I only lay claims to what I've experienced, is what I meant. Not sure how that could even be taken as an Indian thing but whatever.
>>83684073Indians are also caucasoids, they white too?
Most levantine arabs in Lebanon and Syria have very little if any arabian admixture (iirc ~7% in Lebanon's case), so are they considered "white?" How about Iranians which have majority indo-aryan dna with only a little bit of arabian admixture? Turks? It's a fucking gradient you retards, there's no big box you can throw everybody in that showcases either 100% whiteness or 100% swarthoidness since populations naturally intermix over time.
>>83684839>has never even been to greece
>>83684867I would argue most are more mongoloid than caucasoid, so no. The lightest skin ones could be white with the proper breeding, but the vast majority are "asian", aka mongoloid.
>>83684956Most indians are mixed with aasi dravidians though? Which are most similar to negritos and aboriginal australians. That would make them australoid-caucasoid mutts, not mongoloid.
>>83684975I am going to be real with you. I don't really care that much. They ain't white is the main take away.
>>83683874Italians, Greeks and Japanese are white. Chinese are also white and so are sub Saharan Africans. Also Latinos. But Finnish people specifically, they are not white.
>>83683885>they are actually more related to the people that got eradicated by modern continental europeans than Greeks.Wrong, when the Yamnaya came they completely wiped out the previous inhabitants of Scandinavia, modern Scandinavians have basically nothing in common with them genetically.
>>83684007>anglo education
