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1) confidence is key. and by that I mean don't talk negatively about yourself. If you say your ugly and worthless and no one will ever want you women will believe it. You don't need to be cocky but avoid any kind of self deprecation in front of females.

2) if you get to the point where you two are sexting, women love boner pics more than dick pics. I know it seems counter intuitive, but the still wearing clothes thing makes it feel more taboo in a way that makes them horny.

3) 90% of the time when a women comes to you with a problem she doesn't want you to solve the problem, she just wants you to validate her feelings. So like, lets say she's out shopping with her friend on her birthday, and her friend finds a pair of shoes they both like and because they are both the same size and the friend saw it first the friend buys them. Rather than suggesting she find better friends or buy the shoes online, what she wants you to do is say, "that was shitty, sorry you had to deal with that." The female mind has more of a problem with the issue of being upset, rather than the issue that made them upset. "I feel bad" is the problem "listen to me talk about it and tell me I'm right to feel bad" is the solution. and that's what will make them happy.

those are my 3 tips. I hope they help anyone here looking for tips.
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>>83686982
>females
No woman says this, man
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>>83686982
Have you ever had seggs and your digg got stugg in her vaginer because she got too tense?
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>>83686982
That sounds exhausting, can't they just develop some level of emotional regulation and personality?

Here's a title I haven't seen written since the 50s, How to please a man.
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>>83686982
yeah its all well and good saying this but im fat ugly and autistic so i will never even get the chance to use tip number 1
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>>83686982
I don't take advice from fish, okay?
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>>83686982
>don't talk negatively about yourself
Yeah this one is real. Made this mistake in my last relationship. She wasn't as attracted to me after she realized how insecure I was
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>>83686992
idk why people get so butthurt over that word. I've been using it for a long time.
>>83686993
what?
>>83687000
I mean, if figured the guys looking for tips on how to please a man would be on /lgbt
>>83687003
you see, here's a good thing to work on. Find something you like about yourself and lead with that. Do you have any hobbies like music or art? Are you good at any specific skill? There has to be something about yourself you you like.
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>>83686982
Can you give me some advice of how I can get in your pants?
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>>83687033
>Find something you like about yourself and lead with that.
No him
But I don't.
I can only fake it and never make it.
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>>83686982
95 % of all women are not worth it so who cares. They are fat, old, smoke and drink, are whores, are normalfags who love wasting money. Women are mostly trash.
Yeah for the remainder 5 % I would do anything and all but they are so rare you might as well play the lottery and win there.
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>>83686982
Man I hate women. They're allowed to have as many insecurities as they want and you have to reassure and support them but they expect you to be perfect. I'm glad I stopped talking to them at all.
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>>83687033
>There has to be something about yourself you you like.
well yeah of course there is but the problem is that no woman will ever even consider me as a partner because im fat and ugly.
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>>83686982
Retarded advice, here's actual advice, do not bother trying to make anyone happy, let alone a foid, a neurotic creature who's inclined to find things to be unhappy about. Happiness comes from within.
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>>83687033
>what?
It's a thing
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>>83686982
>The female mind has more of a problem with the issue of being upset, rather than the issue that made them upset
This is why you need to be slaves
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>>83687013
i mean, take it or leave it, it's all the same to me
>>83687014
Personally, I've always found that out before I was dating someone. Sorry that happened to you anon, I hope you find someone better.
>>83687047
Stuff I like in men? Personally I like guys who are passionate about things. Even if we don't share an interest it's nice seeing a man still have the light in his eyes and passion in his chest when he talks about something he cares about. Idk if that's anywhere near as universal as the other stuff I mentioned though. The biggest thing that turns me off of guys is when they are boring and have no interests.
>>83687048
i really wish people on R9K would be nicer to themselves. Come on, there has to be something. Gun to your head, just the first thing that comes to your mind, what do you like about yourself. If that doesnt work think of things you dislike about other people, traits you dont have. You can like that you're not like that. That's a thing to like.
>>83687053
fair enough.
>>83687075
I never said it was fair, just that it puts them off.
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>>83686982
>1) confidence is key.
Same applies for decision making.
Always make decision like it best possible choice every time and don't hesitate.
>where will go tonight?
>I don't know honey, whatever you like!
Worst possible answer ever. Always have place in mind, if it met with serious resistance (ick everything can give an ick) have a back up plan. But never "dunno".
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>>83686982
Best advice if you want women is to ignore them and work on being jacked and rich.

Then the best advice is to make use of those that deliver themselves to you but keep them at arms length lest they fuck your life up.

I will accept 7 internets for this most useful and perfect of posts.
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>>83687153
10000000% this! Women love decisiveness
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>>83687150
>>83687095
>ignored my reply
i would laugh about this but the truth is the fact im alone hurts me quite a lot
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>>83687150
>I never said it was fair, just that it puts them off
I just wish women were capable of seeing men as human beings. But at least you don't deny how you are. I'll give you points for that.
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>>83687150
>Gun to your head, just the first thing that comes to your mind, what do you like about yourself
Nothing. I live with thought in my head that I want to be other people, that i can't be.


>think of things you dislike about other people, traits you dont have
Been total failure and liability. Like drunk addict, alcohollic etc. Totally failed people who don't make care about themselves and whose sight offense other people senses.
I am not like that. Just milkwarm loser.
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>>83687095
what do you like about yourself? Not what do you dislike, what do you like?
>>83687120
.>My top 3 tips for men for making girls happy (from a foid)
>this is bad advice because you shouldn't make them happy at all
I wasn't asking if you should, I was saying how to, if you want to.
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i have bonded with women when/through crying and by affirming each other over insecurities, including being ugly and worthless. maybe 95% of women will fuck you up over it but i guess i haven't been meeting with that 95%
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>>83687180
she wants you to rope
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>>83687180
didn't mean to, I just replied out of order. I'm bad about that sometimes, I'm genuinely sorry.
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>>83687208
And you were having sex with these women?
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>>83687223
yes, would be a pointless post otherwise
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This advice is only useful if you already have a girlfriend. You're putting the cart before the horse.
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>>83687198
try reframing that. You like your ability to have self control. you could say something like, "I like how I'm self disciplined." That's something.
>>83687208
i think the two most important things are
1) not doing it all the time
2) making sure that isn't her first impression of you, and letting them see your more confident fun side first rather than showing them your insecurities immediately
>>83687211
I do not. I don't want anyone here to rope.

also sorry again anon, I just got excited when I saw someone agreeing with me I didn't mean to make you feel ignored my bad.
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>>83687199
im semi-decent at guitar. i can comfortably play anything with basic open chords and some barre chords. i like that im able to make my family laugh, i cant act the same way around anyone other than my family though. i cant think of anything else.
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>>83686982
>So like, lets say she's out shopping with her friend on her birthday, and her friend finds a pair of shoes they both like and because they are both the same size and the friend saw it first the friend buys them
>what she wants you to do is say, "that was shitty, sorry you had to deal with that"
This is why it's better to just stay an incel.
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>>83686982
>you don't need to be cocky but avoid any kind of self deprecation in front of females.
Done this all my life.
> if you get to the point where you two are sexting
Never got here.
>90% of the time when a women comes to you with a problem she doesn't want you to solve the problem
Women only come to me with problems at work. And I'm pretty sure they need me to solve the problems because it's part of my job.
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>>83686982
>I mean don't talk negatively about yourself.
Its over.... Failed right here
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>>83687259
>you could say something like, "I like how I'm self disciplined."
I am not really self disciplined, enough to not indulge in completely self destructing behavior, like be black out drunk every Friday and fall asleep in the mud on a street.
But I wouldn't call myself self disciplined. There is nothing about myself I can be proud and parade around.
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>>83687199
yeah and I was saying how you can't make them happy, because happiness in the first place isn't something that you can make happen in someone. That doesn't mean you should be an asshole, but it means you shouldn't concern yourself making someone "happy", you should live according to principles. Living according to principles means knowing how to do right unto others, not knowing how to please them.
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>>83686982
Give me 3 reasons why I should take any advice from you?
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>>83687287
>?
*Disregard the question mark
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>>83687278
Its OK anon, I have quite a few positive qualities but its never enough.

I'm tall, good looking, intelligent, wealthy, creative and more besides.

Its
Never
Enough

Just stop worrying about it, the feelings of trash people really shouldn't concern you.
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>>83686982
i agree with 1 and 2, but 3 is a retarded feeler thing and not a woman thing
t. fembot
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>>83687301
I was gonna say that 1 and 3 are true in my own experiences with women but 2 is merely a preference. Some women want to see da dick. Some women aren't into sexting in general
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>>83686982
Waow thank you for this incredibly generic advice. Now, can you advise me on how to find a woman who's not incredibly generic?
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>>83687150
how can i get in your pants if i'm boring and don't have interests? i cant really change that about myself
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>>83687316
Was thinking the same thing. If I had to attract ops I would kms. Lmao
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>>83686982
Just post your cunt you stupid bitch
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>>83687300
>I'm tall, good looking, intelligent, wealthy, creative and more besides.
Cool, how is it supposed to make me like myself? It's just makes me want to be you.
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>>83686982
If your chad this doesn't matter you'll fuck her anyway and as for tip number 3 your just a emotional tampon to her
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>>83687316
That's another topic
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>>83687261
that's really cool though, it takes talent and dedication to learn guitar. Plus the fact that you're into playing an instrument at all is charming in an of itself. It shows you deep enough to have music resonate with you, and dedicated enough to learn it. It's also a great conversion starter. I would wanna know what kind of songs you like to play.
>>83687268
hmmm. have you tried asking any out? I guess it's not guaranteed success, I just hope it helps whoever it can. Sorry though anon, I hope you find someone.
>>83687270
you can always meet new women and just make a new impression.
>>83687278
you're underselling yourself. Most of the people I know have some kind of addition, even if it's just to caffeine or nicotine. The fact you've have the discipline to not fall into that despite how hard life can be sometimes is an accomplishment in and of itself.
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>>83687377
>you can always meet new women and just make a new impression.
Im realistic about having nothing to offer and deceiving others is just not for me. I have low self esteem and honest about it.
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>>83687345
the point is that it doesn't help as much as you think. The problem isn't attracting bitches, its finding ones who aren't such utter trash that you're better off without them.
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>>83687283
i think both can be good.
>>83687287
1) Ive been alive for a while
2) Idk, I like you guys, I ike R9K. I actively feel shitty when I read people on here posting about wanting to die. I keep catching myself going back and wondering " I wonder if that was the last thing he ever wrote and picturing the anon dead in a house or apartment somewhere, and then I feel sad and kinda sick to my stomach. I've always hated when people get written off by society as irredeemable for dumb shit like not being able to get laid. It's like people make a box and put everyone in that box as sub human and then stop giving a shit about anything they say or think or feel. I know what it's like to feel like that. Not in the same exact way a man would, but it's something I know well in my own way. I don't think any of you deserve to feel unloved or unlovable.
3) I feel like as a female I might have a unique perspective on this compared to most of the other posters who are men. These 3 things are the things that both resonate with me, and that I hear other women talk about when they complain about men either irl or online,
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>>83687360
It's the only dating advice that matters. Most other issues wouldn't be so big if men could find a woman they'd genuinely resonate with.
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>>83687377
>you're underselling yourself
Yeah right having basic expected functionality like having a job and not binge drinking is some sort of achievement that should make me proud of myself, not really I don't feel like it. Especially when I failed in other basic functionality, never having a girlfriend.

I amot parading my perceived inferiority meeting people face to face, nobody likes whining men, so I don't that, wanting positive reaction to me. I put on MAKS of normalcy
>how do you anon, everything fine thanks
But behind this mask there is nothing I would like to show others.
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>>83687428
Both matters.
You can find that girl and then drop the ball.
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>>83687300
I think youll find someone that that's enough for one day.
>>83687301
I am an entp myself (and I have been for over a decade every time I've retaken the test, and I still have days where I just wanna vent as opposed to fixing my issues. Maybe its is retarted, I'm not denying that, but some days I just wanna feel like someone cares about me and my problems rather than fix them. I've gotten worse about it as I've gotten older.
>>83687310
i wouldn't say any of the 3 are completely universal, they have just been patterns I noticed. You're right that a lot of women aren't into sexing, I meant more with the ones who are.
>>83687316
you say that, but ive met people who didn't know this
>>83687320
id suggest perusing a girl who doesn't value that kinda stuff as highly as I do. Again, that's a personal preference of mine, not a "most women" thing
>>83687328
I mean I like sunset shimmer. I grew up on mlp. That's interesting to me at least.
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>>83687486
>id suggest perusing a girl who doesn't value that kinda stuff as highly as I do. Again, that's a personal preference of mine, not a "most women" thing
so you're saying I don't have a chance with you because of my disposition?
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>>83686982
All right, lets do this!
>Confidence
Fumbled. It's so over. It never even began. Chads and stacies, winners of the genetic lottery will never leave crumbs of happiness for eternal losers like me on the high table of hypergamy!
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>>83687332
no I dont think I will.
>>83687388
who says you have nothing to offer? I'm sure you have some interesting traits.
>>83687452
again, having a job shows self discipline, especially if you . have been there a while and you don't job hop all the time. I think you're over estimating how functional other adults are.
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>>83687500
if you don't think that's something about yourself you can change or would want to change, then no. I kinda doubt that you're that boring though, most people who end up here aren't normies at least.
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>>83687525
>. I think you're over estimating how functional other adults are.
That is humiliating comparison for me
I am surrounded by people who have own olacegirlfriendss, families, kids own place, cs
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>>83687421
>I actively feel shitty when I read people on here posting about wanting to die
This is dumb. Me being dead would be a good thing. I wouldn't have to deal with being alive anymore. Life is a terrible thing.
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>>83687548
you have to remeber, most of the time you're only seeing the side of people they allow you to see. People are inscure about your oppsion of them just like you are of theirs. It's easy to fall into the trap of thinking all those people have functioning lives when you don't see everything that happens behind closed doors. The version of these people you have in your head is the version they showed to you to make themselves look and feel functional. For instance, how many of the people you were talking about might have some kind of addiction they don't allow you to see?
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>>83687525
>think you're over estimating how functional other adults are.
That is humiliating comparison for me
I am surrounded by adults who have their own placees, cars, girlfriends, families and kids. Things I don't have and very probably never will.
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>>83687559
always? there's nothing that could fix that? Love, money, power? Nothing like that might improve your life? Most of the time, there's always a solution to what's making life terrible even if it feels insurmountably hard. Life itself though, I would argue, isn't the issue. It's conditions. And all conditions are technically fixable.
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>>83687594
yeah I knew what you meant the first time. I don't think you should give up just like that.
>>83687578
see what I said here
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>>83686982
As a (rarely) sex-having man, I can confirm those 3 tips are 100% on-point. However, point 3 is a real hangup for me in the sense that I can't tolerate this behavior whatsoever. It is the reason I have such a hard time creating and keeping a relationship. I am inherently a problem-solver. I have done everything from religious cult rescue to building an entire business, to simple coaching and confidence boost from genuine support for my girlfriends, for example. When 3 happens I automatically go to solutions and I have received before the feedback that this is not what they want etc.

Honestly, at this point I'd rather die alone than be with a girl who is like that.
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>>83687509
That fact is all you have to do for confidence is: say nothing instead of saying how sad you are. Related topics/lines of questionings don't actually often come up. Example, say you are a worthless NEET and she asks what your job is. You can just say you don't have a job right now instead of crying about it. If you are actually working on fixing this, you can also mention the steps you are taking toward getting a job.
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>>83687607
>all conditions are technically fixable
I cannot fix being a disabled, autistic retard. That's pretty much set in stone and why my life will continue to be terrible. I'm just not compatible with life or humanity.
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>>83686982
im not sending dickpics or boner pics you perverts. get reckt
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>>83687614
>I don't think you should give up just like that.
I don't give up fully.

It's just confidence advice "find out what do you like it about yourself" doesn't reasonate with me at all.
My advice is >>83687651
>nothing instead of saying how sad you are
Just fake it, and that fake it again because it's I all have.
Advice how to fake things and wear mask resonates with me.
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>>83687525
>who says you have nothing to offer? I'm sure you have some interesting traits.
Me ending up as a wizard kinda implies about having nothing.
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>>83687738
Yeah.
That is mostly untouched discipline of wizards guidance.
How to make things form nothing. Normies fall flat in their face when touch that subject.
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>>83686982
sure and all. but who are you. post interests, age, ethnicity
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My top 3 tips for men for making girls happy (from a schizo foid)

a. look at her like you're going to be questioned about her later. forensic. like you're memorizing the exact angle her collarbone makes with her throat because someone might ask & you need to know. she'll feel you cataloguing her & something will go liquid. women are used to being glanced at. we're not used to being evidence. be the man with the corkboard. be the red string between her freckles. no ethics board. just you. collecting her. not looking away when she catches you because why would you. you're working.

b. tell her you dreamed about her & make it wrong. not sexy wrong. wrong wrong. "you were giving a lecture on soil. you were made of curtain. i was taking notes but my hands were foam & i woke up angry to be back in a world where you have bones." she's in your unconscious now doing things without your permission. she didn't ask to be there. she just moved in. let her know she's trespassing in your sleep & you're pressing charges but also please don't stop.

c. ask her what her childhood smelled like. ask her what texture makes her want to disappear into her own fingers. go into her like an archaeologist. brush the dust off things she forgot she buried. anyone can want her body. wanting her archive? wanting the room she felt safe in at twelve? that's the greed that gets us. be hungry for the parts that have nothing to do with sex. that hunger is the sexiest thing. it makes us feel like we exist in places we didn't know we had.
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>>83687726
Imagine never needing to wear a mask again.

Just give up.
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>>83687525
Most millennials have not kept jobs for more than 2 years (and many couldn't even make it that long) mostly because the economy keep seesawing and every major milestone we had happened in the middle of yet another crisis. It's not just a question of job hopping, even though job hopping is the optimal strategy in many domains and countries.
At-will employment is the most niggerish concept in the entire world.
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>>83687784
Thats an impressive amount of mental illness to cram into such a small space.
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>>83687787
Then I wouldn't be able to go out again, and I need outside things to continue living.
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>>83686982
You've successfully given me the brainworm not to talk badly about myself anymore. But, why should I indulge a woman's negative emotions when it's my mission to make her feel positive ones?

That she should harm herself with negative self-talk when I should never do the same is toxic af. One because that's mysoginistic. Two because that's misandristic. Nobody should just give up and accept suffering and then try to make it worse for themselves and worse encouraged to do so. Nobody should be punished for showing any weakness and being human on the occasions when it's hard to find answers. My ideal wife and I will always work TOGETHER towards never degrading ourselves. That's a fact!
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>>83687831
Spot on.
Remember one forum i used there was unironically shizo writing long posts like that >>83687784. Similar connotations.
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>>83687863
It can't be that bad anon, what kind of job requires you to mask that hard?

I've had jobs like that but they were pretty extreme.
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>>83686982
>>83687784
REAL REAL, I love both of you but unfortunately my dream bf would probably never read this.

top 3 tipps on how to make a girl happy (from a depressed girl)
1) talk about mental illness but NEVER assume you've had it worse than her. ask her if she misses being depressed or functional more.
2) send her memes, songs anything that reminds you of her, and tell her that it reminds you of her. even better if it's a meme of one of her interests.
3) ask her what she dreams about at least once a week. be interested and ask questions about it. if that ever happened to me I'd fall in love
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>>83687880
>should
that word is doing a lot of heavy lifting in this post.
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>>83687893
>what kind of job requires you to mask that hard?
No my job
It's about me not job type. About going out and meeting normal people when I do that.
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>>83687669
I mean, you seem to type normally enough, your acting like your low iq or something.
>>83687702
fair enough
>>83687726
i mean if that was you in the other post I agree with what you said, it's pretty solid advice
>>83687738
do you have a favorite show or game?
>>83687757
interests: anime, art, politics, cartoons, genshin. I've tried to do song writing and stuff.
age: 28
ethnicity: white
>>83687784
im not sure these tips are as universal as the ones I gave but I appreciate the input.
>>83687789
that's fair
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>>83687911
*your acting like the situation is as hopeless as if you were someone else who has a low IQ. (I do not think YOU are low IQ) sorry I worded that poorly.
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>>83687898
How about astrology?
Once i told an escort my birthday and in return she produced long expatiation about my horoscope i don't remebmber (only thing get stuck "Saturn is in something"), and so she concluded how everything wrong with me because of this stars alignment.
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I just came so fucking hard to bbws. God, fat bitches are the best
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>>83687946
I don't like astrology, if you mention something about it I'll assume either your ex gf told you about it or you taught yourself the basics to get a gf.
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>>83687911
Will you be my gf though? Originally even.
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>>83687880
i mean, I think sometimes, at least for women, moving on from an emotion too fast feels bad in its own right. If my dog died and I was sad for like 3 minutes and then I felt fine again, I feel like that would be a problem for me. It can be frustrating for women when we don't feel like were allowed to just feel things. Just be sad for a bit, or be angry for a bit. Once we've worked though and felt those feelings, it can be way easier to move past them and not end up having the negative feelings come back up again later. I've gotten mixed responses in the past on if it works that way for men as well, but if you have any input I would love to hear it. I assume it's difficult for men as well especially when they are told never to talk about stuff more often than women are, but they are often not as bothered by it ether. At least from what I've observed and have been told.

on a more practical level (so less why ought you have a moral obligation and more why it would make your life easier) it's just a good strategy to make/keep a girl happy, whether it seems logical or not, it is effective.
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>>83686982
Since when were the textboxes in ddlc color coded?
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>>83687906
>that word is doing a lot of heavy lifting in this post.
Well, listen. I don't need to have a gf. I just want a healthy relationship with a woman. I don't need somebody to pull me under with them so we can both drown. It's the right thing to do to improve the lives of those you're stuck with. I'm not going to stand here on r9k and pretend I like seeing those I care about degrade themselves verbally. Is it so wrong that I like my friends to be mentally healthy and will work towards having that with them rather than just enable it?

You know, I've already learned that I can't fix her. I once thought I could. I was wrong. But it would be a complete inversion of what I want out of life to let somebody like that embitter me and defeat me. I shouldn't even be embittering myself myself when I do, though I acknowledge that I have my limits and haven't quite conquered my own mind yet. I'll get there, though. There's a lot I haven't tried for it yet.
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>>83687911
>you seem to type normally enough, your acting like your low iq or something
I think just saying I'm low IQ is probably too simplistic regarding my issues. I'm not really stupid. I can remember facts and information well enough and don't have a lot of issues when it comes to writing to people like this Talking to someone face to face is where I have the most trouble. I have a hard time keeping up with people socially and generally don't know what to say or how to act. Being able to make appointments and manage a lot of the things I need to do is really hard as well if I have to deal with people to do it. I also can't really seem to manage working full time either for the same reasons. I'm pretty much just fucked.
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>>83688044
>don't need to have a gf. I just want a healthy relationship with a woman.
Doesn't compute.
Healthy relationship with woman is having her as gf.
Everything else is a dispair sour grapes.
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>>83687975
>mean, I think sometimes, at least for women, moving on from an emotion too fast feels bad in its own right.
>If my dog died and I was sad for like 3 minutes and then I felt fine again, I feel like that would be a problem for me
Grief is something to be worked through. It's a temporary and self-destructive way to be. It's no way to live forever. Negative feelings can be processed but if you're afraid to feel good again, that's where having somebody you trust to know a path out of it matters.
>Once we've worked though and felt those feelings, it can be way easier to move past them and not end up having the negative feelings come back up again later.
Why would it come back up? In my experience self harm leads to more self harm.
>I've gotten mixed responses in the past on if it works that way for men as well, but if you have any input I would love to hear it
I don't think it works that way, even for women.
>assume it's difficult for men as well especially when they are told never to talk about stuff more often than women are, but they are often not as bothered by it ether.
We are bothered by it, because we are human, but the silver lining is that we're also as men not encouraged to make a habit of it, just encouraged to give space and patience to those who do fall out, unless they're other men because that's gay. It's kind of weird with other men, actually. Depends on how masculine or strong the guy looks. But with women, resent is always normal to expect.
>it's just a good strategy to make/keep a girl happy, whether it seems logical or not, it is effective.
Yeah, but then I'm not being a very good boyfriend. She'll feel happier at first in sharing the weight with me, but when the rest of the world won't put up with her resentful attitude and lack of love for it, she'll grow only more frustrated and dependant on me, creating ultimately an intensifying bad spiral. The truth does seem bleak sometimes, but that's no reason to disown all your youthful spirit.
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Would date OP
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>>83686982
Shut the fuck up with your tips and help a random incel from here ascend or fuck off with your bullshit
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>>83688053
>Doesn't compute.
>Healthy relationship with woman is having her as gf.
>Everything else is a dispair sour grapes.
Look out for yourself, man. There are women out there looking for men exactly like you.
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>>83686982
Have you ever spent any time thinking about what men want or do you just think nonstop about what you wish men were more like?
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>>83687033
>Find something you like about yourself and lead with that
I don't think women want me to spew 40k lore at them
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>>83688519
if they like the sound of your voice, they don't care what you're talking about. just that you're talking.
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>>83686982
>don't talk negatively about yourself

Legitimately dont know how to stop doing this. Its like theres some secondary voice in the back of my head constantly belittling me over everything I do. I cant stop it. Just constantly calling me a 'weak pathetic faggot'. I dont understand how im just suppose to shake off my insecurities without help from someone else.
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>>83688529
Not him but while there is a kernel of truth in there, it is highly mitigated by the reality of it. Women do absolutely care about what you talk about. Some women (most won't) care about the sound of your voice, but never to the point of outcompeting the topic of what you are talking about. Moreover, many women will feign being interested in what you say for other reasons, e.g. you are rich or you are hot, explicitly saying they love it when you talk about the topic and they enjoy the topic itself or whatever, then let slip one day when they're high that they never gave a shit about anything you ever said to them the whole time. Do you think these relationships work long-term? No, they absolutely don't. As soon as the early halo disappears she thinks you're only a good friend and not romance-material anymore.
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>>83686982
I feel like the first point is kinda obvious, but the other two will be helpful, thanks!

I still don't get how does the sexting thing work, I'm not good for that typa stuff so I just hope the future woman I meet isn't into that either lol
>>83687033
>idk why people get so butthurt over that word. I've been using it for a long time.
Oh and btw, no girl says "female" lol no offense but they're right
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>>83686982
Self deprecation is fine if you can joke about it zoomer (obviously not the kind of thing you're mentioning)
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>>83686982
>>83689405
I will say the third point is something I need to work on though. Why are women like this? If you understand that he's trying to help, why not appreciate that bit?



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