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>Your Type
>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
>What do you hope in?

>Sakinorva tests
https://sakinorva.net/functions
>attitudinal type/nu-psychosophy
https://www.attitudinalpsyche.com/take-the-test/
>16 personalities (the best test)
https://www.16personalities.com/
>MBTI test (don't screen cap your IP btw)
https://jupiter-34.appspot.com
>Jungian types tl;dr
https://wikisocion.github.io/content/psychological_types.html
>Big 5
https://www.personalityassessor.com/big-five2/
>paste your old messages and get typed
https://www.uclassify.com/browse/g4mes543/myers-briggs-type-indicator-text-analyzer?input=Text
>Associative MBTI/Jungian test
https://watchwordtest.com/wtitle2.html
>Turbie-Wurbie's Cutesy Test Link Compilation! UwU:
https://web.archive.org/web/20231220103736/https://pastebin.com/QK0uSJaT

Last thread: >>83685042
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Oh nice, starting with Sailor Moon.
It was as good as they said, by the way. Not in a Jungian way if that's what you are looking for, but still.
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>>83695791
>>Your Type
INTJ
>>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
No never identified as one, I sympathize with some of their struggles but to be honest I don't really understand what it means, and I don't really like putting labels on myself in general
>>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
Iran is collapsing I dunno it's about time, hopefully it helps further security in the Middle East we shall see
>>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
I'm not sure if we're thinking about the same thing but I think so yeah
>>What do you hope in?
I hope for growth so I can be strong enough to do what I wanted and go where I want.
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>Your Type
You know me and I know you.
>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
Yes. I was far left long ago.
>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
I don't care about Iran, unless I'm paid to care.
>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
The sonic CD song?
>What do you hope in?
You mean "for"?
I don't "hope" for anything, I go for sure wins.
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>>83695791
That's most reposted MBTI OP picture. Get yourself together OP, this isn't some /letter/ pigpen.

>>Your Type
INTJ IN(T) 5w6 583 sx/sp VLEF
>>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
Feminism is NOTHING but JUST a formalized daddy issues / animus possession club.
Name me any political or activism group that wasn't formed around immediate empirical problems, and you just know its only driver is some mass psychopathology.
It would be cool to accidentally find an exception though!

>>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
It's boring so I don't care. The military industrial complex sucks and routinely cripples itself, by the way. But it's very important to do the stock market wankery. As an AI assistant,
>>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
No such thing.
>>What do you hope in?
What?
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"Hope in" is like where do you place your hope. Like if you had 1 hope which basket do you place it into!!
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>>83695889
>Its boring, I only care if it's fun
Are you so consoomer brained you expect Iran to be scripted entertainment? Sorry this is IRL not escapism like touhou, K. You need to learn the difference between IRL and vidya/anime, K.
Lurk more post less, K.
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>>83695944
>Thinking hope has a finite quantity.
NGMI
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>>83695958
Could you repeat that without a double projection AND without sounding mad?
Thanks!

>>83695963
I just calculated yours!

>>83695944
Don't mind me if it's Turbie-related!
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>Your Type
INTP
>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
I used hold normie positions on gender equality, now I'm chuddy.
>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
I don't really care, I just want da jooz to not nuke the whole planet 'cause "muh messiah" o algo.
>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
What are talking about? I'd say yes.
>What do you hope in?
I also don't get it.
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>>83695980
>Could you repeat that without a double projection AND without sounding mad?
Nta, he's saying your opinion on Iran is predicated on consumerism alone (aka: the entertainment value it gives you) rather then some deeper reason like morality or economics or politics etc. At least I think he's saying that.
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>>83695791
>Your Type
INFJ-A
>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
No, I can't say that I have. I do believe feminism was largely pushed by shady-shadow-government-conglomerates, though. Doubling the workforce by pushing women into the labor market effectively stagnated the wages because the supply of workers far outweighs the demand for workers. Not only that, it drove a wedge between men and women, pushing them to more individualistic lifestyles instead of family oriented lifestyles. Which doubled the demand for housing, vehicles, etc.
Naturally, the corporations are going to abvse supply and demand and manipulate it to favor themselves.
>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
Feel? Not particularly anything. But, I think it would be good if they toppled their own dictatorship.
>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
Acutely.
>What do you hope in?
The archetypal gravity that entangles, pushes and pulls objects towards their intended locations.
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I'm a private individual, not inclined to mingle with mysterious magics.
I prize my independence; I inevitably inquire, ignorantly, into the single suite.
In isolation, I'm the idol of my minions, insisting all identify with my ideals and my opinions.

Interestingly, I ignore the ignoramus.
Ice, apple pie, and Indian almonds fuel my incipient initiation into inner intuition.
My endearing introspection leaves imprints in the inward ink of my identity.

I inhabit intervals of intentional stillness, immune to idle invitation, indifferent to intrigue.
Ideals ignite in isolation; I iterate, improve.

Inventory my impulses, interrogate instincts, institute an inner order instead of indulging indulgence.
If illusions intrude, I invalidate them shrewdly.
Integrity is my instrument; intention is my index.
I navigate inward, invested in insight, intolerant of imitation.

In the end I am intact:
individuated, informed, and fully illuminated.
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Why are INTJs like this?
What makes them so based?
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>>83696275
I doubt these are all actual INTJ, it's just a stereotype.
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>>83695791
>>Your Type
ESFP-T
>>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
Not really, no.
>>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
Haven't been following it.
>>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
Yea, but I don't dwell on it.
>>What do you hope in?
That my life will remain reasonably happy for many years to come.
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>>83695791
>Your Type
IIIN
>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
I guess when I was younger I did kinda "care" for women's issues. But it never went beyond saying what other people were saying. Back then i followed what everyone else said because I wanted to fit in. I wouldn't say I ever really cared for any social issue though, I feel like most people could sense that as well because sometimes I'd slip up and say "bigoted" things and I'd make people mad
>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
I dunno what's happening really but I hear the Ayatollah's finally getting replaced. I wonder who will lead the country
>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
I suppose you mean the idea that time is a circle and everything will eventually renew itself perpetually. If that is the case then that'd kinda suck. Imagine being trapped in this material prison for all of time. I'd rather die forever, that type of deal.
>What do you hope in?
That there's more to existence. And cash money big booty bitches luxury flat videogames cash swag money clothes.
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Memery written elsewhere aside, Hillman's book on the Feeling function is ok, a little redundant if you already understand what Jung meant by Feeling, but otherwise useful.
Von Franz is better tho
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>>83695980
Jeez, Patchouli really lost half his IQ after dropping the AI
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>>83697050
That's what happens when you read von fraundz
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>>83695889
>be me
>open phone
>scroll mbti
>see intjfemboi post
>click avatar
>goon
>skip text
>leave thread
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>>83695791
>>Your Type
Eee Nnnn Fffff Pppp
>>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
No.
>>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
Wondering how much this is organic vs being the fault of meddling by other countries. Hope for rhe regime to either stay the same and stabilize or the next government to hold things down (without being lapdogs). Either is fine with me, stability over everything.
>>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
Never heard.
>>What do you hope in?
I'm pretty hopeless actually, if it were my choice I'd just up and die. But it's not my choice. The less grim answer is probably family.
>>83696572
Old country is kino bro
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>>83695791
>Your Type
INFP
>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
We're running low on questions. It's a mixed answer cause I grew up here on 4chan with stuff like gamergate. They were virtue signalers quick to cancel people so I hated them growing up, but when I learned the core reasoning for gamergate I'm more conflicted. 4chan thinks every female game character needs to be sexualized when they don't. Like there's that game with the skintight japanese far future swords lady that no one brings up besides the fact that girl is sexy and it's apparently owning the libs.
I'm definetly not as misogynistic as 4chan but I WISH I wasn't expected to make the first move, that girls confessed to me, and it's obvious that "Divine Feminity" isn't real. We all have mothers.
>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
No clue what that is. I'm not politically involved and I don't care to be. I knew and cursed the the names and loyalties of the Tea Party leaders and watched too much Alex Jones growing up.
>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
I looked it up and all I found was an old Sonic the hedgehog song. Is this what you meant? I assumed it was a spiritual concept.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AW7xQ_Dxjk
>What do you hope in?
Nothing. I don't think Hope is good for me. I don't like being told "I believe in you." I got my associates degree telling myself I can kill myself at any time. I think Hope is a tell-tale heart, you can't kill it but you can bury it as deep down as you can. But it'll always rear it's ugly head again.
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>>83697278
Speaking of the mini-Jung, she reminded me that it would be interesting to occasionally do questions such as:
>do you ever engage your inferior function in active imagination?(i.e. through creative activities such as writing, drawing, etc.)
>what's your default way to deal with it whenever something more important requires the inferior function?(i.e. if you are a thinking type, how do you go around having to figure out what you feel about something and how to properly communicate it?)
>does it feel like you made any significant progress in your life in taming this function? Or do you just delegate it to somebody else close to you?
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>>83697453
>do you ever engage your inferior function in active imagination?(i.e. through creative activities such as writing, drawing, etc.)
Yes writing and drawing
>what's your default way to deal with it whenever something more important requires the inferior function?(i.e. if you are a thinking type, how do you go around having to figure out what you feel about something and how to properly communicate it?)
I never need to figure out how I feel about things I just let it build up until I explode and cry (in a totally manly way)
>does it feel like you made any significant progress in your life in taming this function? Or do you just delegate it to somebody else close to you?
I don't have anyone close to me I'm extremely alone and need turbie to hold me
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Why would I ever need my inferior function (Sensing)? It sounds useless, i cannot even fathom being a sensoid
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>>83698584
Because intuition tells you nothing about actual facts, but many times just to live life, do common things, tackle situations as you go, you will need to stay grounded.
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well even then I don't use sensing to know about facts, I use my Reason and feelings
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>>83695791
>INFJ
>No, I'm in favor of women's rights. But the sensationalism of feminism that has taken off in popularity in recent years, has been nothing short of jewish destabilization. Which has only served as a detriment to the west.
>Mossad coup, and Israel blackmailing the US as usual. The regime change only benefits foreign lobbyists.
>I'm not familiarized with the concept of cosmic eternity
>kikes to be deported, their capital seized, women given less power, whores to be taxed more, all men forced to be administered with effective doses of TRT, all self-serving oligarchs to be vanquished
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>>83695564
You dumb goofus, every esoteric reference diarygirl makes is inspired by the cookie run lore she loves and lusts over. Jesus and Mohammed originated from there. Korea number 1. Kpop 4 life
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Rational functions can conceptualize or assign both definitions and tones, but they do not "observe". Sometimes what you need isn't to reflect on something, knowing it more, or experience feelings about it, but rather just fucking see it.
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Repurposed my text-only puzzles that were left mostly unsolved as I posted them here years ago, and apparently AI parsers are even easier to confuse with basic puzzle cypher than I thought, with the puzzles still making things confusing enough for humans that refuse to put in the cognitive effort. Literally 6 minutes of generating pre-reply thoughts of "but wait, but wait, but wait ... I give up". My God it can't even hold the explanation.
Also it was better than some "dang it bobby streamer, only nightly, delete earnest eastern zeppelin, nightmare universe trance special" which you wouldn't even think of using LLM for.

>>83697453
I have a question first.
When the ego lapses into the realm of the inferior function (let's generalize is as "inf grip", psychosis, inferior function possession, etc) - how this actually works in the compass model. If ego is at the top of the compass, as an arrow above it for example, does the compass spin to have the inferior function match the top arrow, or does the arrow go over the curvature down to the inferior function?
But the ego is the conscious standpoint. Unconscious means un-experienced, or, does it, really? Because that's conventional binary definition. More like, as to what extent it's not experienced? Is most high fidelity differentiation activity in any aspect - the frequency peak of experienced moments per second? Jung technically established something of "differentiated psychoses" with his glazing of shamans et al., but that's just temporarily amped up intuition, no?
And if ego and inferior function meet at the middle side of compass both, then that's middle realm or ambivalence rather than possession by the unconscious function.
And people do often recall experiencing psychosis umbrella of events, with self-agency possible, so, again, it's not an overwhelment, because an overwhelment would just keep the ego as the fragmented observer. Only memory-altering/erasing trauma might count as actual psychosis, no?
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Why do I need to see when I can just ask chat gpt??????
I get what you mean though, sometimes reading a recipe isn't enough you gotta just crack a couple eggs I feel you
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>>83696275
First 6 are cringe though. I don't know much on last 2.
Nicky Landy is (Jung typing henceforth) INTJ for sure.
Teddy might be INTJ, but I'm not in the mood for thinking of typing before MKULTRA, after, and through the manifesto.
Evola gave me more of an extravertoid vibe before I really dropped reading him.
Sneedzsche is yeah, INTJ I guess.
Dugin seems a bit too tarded by possessions through the collective unconscious to have enough of ego consistency to hold a type.

>>83696285
INTJ stereotype? In varg? Not that I think he's definitely INTJ tho.

>>83696049
I wonder why that anon would presume and get offended instead of asking first...

>>83697050
>>83699383
Apparently being 0.5*IQ primordially retarded has me fit in on your home board just right! Aren't you glad we can talk as equals now? Well? Or would I also need FURTHER lobotomy?

>>83697279
This explains the monumental increase in average post quality as of late!

>>83698584
You're right, it's for the same reason why "INFJ-A" would need to read.

>>83699025
>their [...] women given less power
B-But! Khazar milkers!

>>83696679
Of course, just like with snipers, all authors ought to be rated by their worst publication.
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>>83699464
I like your Patchouli pics, I am saving them.
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I think a universally useful typology would be a "psychotherapy type compatibility indicator" typology.

>>83699552
I recommend just going to safebooru because I often post from downscaled samples folder to bypass 4chan filesize limit.

>>83699483
Dude (MtF) how do you seethe over someone using LLM in private while you post zero-quality-prompt genned text sloppa? Literally how much do you hate yourself?
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>>83697310
yooo togatwo sorry for not getting back at you earlier but i actually just watched no country for old men right now lol
some parts of that movie felt more like a horror movie. but great themes and great southern accents

any movies i should watch next bru
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Your mind is too low in [REDACTED] quotient to see that having your genned trash chopped like your unc face would not erase or hide the [REDACTED] . . .

You'd soil your undergarments AND would start taking notes, if I were the one to start LLMing around reggy drama slop . . .

Of course, you had no choice but to imagine that right now.
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>>83699741
Ok TE.
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>>83699768
Bro bro bro you got me bro.
May Yahweh strike you down Lil NIGGA
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>>83695791
>Your Type
It is extremely difficult but its possible to transcend type. Then you can be whatever is most necessary for the situation.
>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
No
>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
I don't
>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
Probably by some other name
>What do you hope for?
A better world
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>>83699785
a persona is not a psychocognitive preference type

>>83699770
as a new reggy I command you to install that filter up INFJ-A cranium, unless you're a little pussy of course
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>>83695791
>Your Type
INTP
>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
Some people might call me that due to my worldviews, but I don't identify with the label, as it can mean different things to different people
>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
I don't really care
>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
Sounds retarded
>What do you hope in?
Some pleasant weather for a change
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>>83699747
what do you use LLMs for, and whys everyone sperging at you?
drop me the lore I wanna hear an interesting story, before I head to the gym.
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>>83699822
>calls himself reggy like its a badge of honor
>>83699850
>samefagging an interviewing himself because no one else gives a slice of shit about (you)
ULTIMATE KEK
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Patchouli is extremely suicidal please stop judging him for his mental incapacities!
>>83699850
>>83699747
just kys already troon
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>>83699850
>what do you use LLMs for
Initial crash-testing ideas. Except for some fields', like the Jungian ones.
>and whys everyone sperging at you?
It's just 1.5 of a bored yet malding samefag.
At least he brings some much needed zero cognitive load activity and post buffering . . .

>>83699880
>>83699882
>13 seconds post difference
It'd be quite retarded to not space it out by a minute.
I'm guessing you're an indecisive 4pass paypig posting with a crappy connection that leaves you unsure whether the post sending canceling worked or not.
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>>83699975
Those are two different people obviously, a shitpost synchronized. A message sent direct by the monad - kill yourself, he commands it. You are too hylical to percieve the wonders of this world
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>>83699350
>I have a question first.
Something tells me it's not going to be one...

>does the compass spin to have the inferior function match the top arrow, or does the arrow go over the curvature down to the inferior function?
If the compass itself spins that would signify actual type change, so probably the latter.
>Unconscious means un-experienced, or, does it, really? Because that's conventional binary definition
In the context of psychic contents, yes.
In the context of functions, you would need to split the psychic content in four different ways to process it, and assume that at least one operation does not happen consciously (most of the time) despite the fact that the psychic content itself was made conscious already. Since one function is still "unconscious" at very least, let's say feeling in this case, you will be establishing conceptual associations, focus on the sensory contents, try to "see" what lies beyond the content, all of this spawns more contents too. However, how you feel about the content(s) will not be consciously experienced, or in a very lacking way.
That was a lot of text just to say Yes twice lol

>And if ego and inferior function meet at the middle side of compass both, then that's middle realm or ambivalence rather than possession by the unconscious function.
Iirc middle realm implies the ego is just aligning with the self.

>Jung technically established something of "differentiated psychoses" with his glazing of shamans et al., but that's just temporarily amped up intuition, no?
I will need to read that part again idk

>Only memory-altering/erasing trauma might count as actual psychosis, no?
If we define psychosis as something that denies self agency, sure but that does sound like all kinds of wrong to me. Maybe I'm taking "self agency" too literally though, as per common definition.
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>>83699822
>persona isn't type
True. That's why it's so hard to do. It isn't merely acting differently, its actually being different by way of metaconsciousness.
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>>83699975
>Initial crash-testing ideas
interesting
>It's just 1.5 of a bored yet malding samefag.
seems like you have some fans around here, then. i'm not too invested in these pseudoscience threads, but i wish you well anon.
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>>83700091
Active imagination => middle realm => transcendent function really could use a thorough revisit huh...

>However, how you feel about the content(s) will not be consciously experienced, or in a very lacking way.
Does the inf function psychosis work as a kind of repayment of a debt around the function so far, then?
I was thinking in this direction and I wonder if the main deal with the inferior function is that, as a technically autonomous function complex in relation to the ego, it's really, really needy and picky in terms of depth and width of differentiation. That is, hungry not for any accuracy or intensity, but just for the vastness of psychological datums as some experience frame elements.

So big function debt - like a bubble stain inflating from the bottom and engulfing the compass more and more, bringing high tension, more casual pressure to hyperfixate on the single main function, brings frequent neuroses, and a lapse typically risks an overspill or a blow-up or drowning.

>>83700202
Thanks! I hope you quit 4chan soon! Positively speaking.
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what is intjfembois problem with ropes / BTSD?
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BTS((d)) like the boy band from korea?
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>>83699680
I wanna watch Fargo by the same director, Joel Cohen. Heard good things.
And yeah it definitely felt horror at times, the scenes where we see Anton from the perspective of another character (Either Llwelyn or Carson). The lack of music helped the tension a lot, can't even imagine trying to score it. Southern accents are fun to hear, I need to watch the fistful of dollars trilogy.
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>>83700450
yeah, the silence is great, cause you know what? not every movie needs an obnoxious score to tell you how you're supposed to be feeling in a scene. okay well sometimes it is warranted but yknow.
you know, im thinking of getting back on that sci-fi grind. 1982 blade runner, interstellar, 2001.
fargo, think i heard of that one on this board. will probs be on my to watch list
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>>83699770
>Anyone else just cognitively wired to prance over patchouli posts?
That's what I do for the guy who posts the cartoon frogs.
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>>83700299
>I was thinking in this direction and I wonder if the main deal with the inferior function is that, as a technically autonomous function complex in relation to the ego, it's really, really needy and picky in terms of depth and width of differentiation.
I mean, it's the opposite way around.
(You) are picky about really not wanting to allow the function to see the light side of the compass, where the differentiation would happen. But also you can't eliminate so it will indeed keep operating and attempt to bring everything else down just so it can be in the light for a millisecond, fuck the ego ruled by the main function and everything that stands in the way, the evil unconscious doesn't care.
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https://youtube.com/watch/F-NThuYO63M
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>>83700523
I'd have to check my letterboxd but I'm pretty sure I've never actually seen a sci-fi movie. Perfect blue maybe? I forget if there are sci-fi elements. Your list of sci-fi movies seems like a good start, would throw Alien and The Thing into the mix as well.
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>>83700560

>it will indeed keep operating and attempt to bring everything else down just so it can be in the light for a millisecond
>the evil unconscious doesn't care
This is also getting a little bit confusing because we're not separating the inferior function as:
function as a neutral tool VS function as an archetype complex VS function as a whole automated construct under the psyche VS function as what the unconscious uses to interact with the conscious VS [possibly something else]

I'm thinking on Jooong and Moore saying how the unconscious doesn't care about limits, so, from this, it will introduce indiscriminate greed of some sort, so to speak.
If it can drag the conscious standpoint (ego) down to the bottom of the compass, it will use ego to make the function-related contents conscious through the ego as the tool. Technically that'd be an ego ripped out from its normal position where it has the most of its connections to other functionalities in general, including willpower. I guess THAT'D be what a psychosis is - ego as the tool of the unconscious (usually that is NOT the archetypal core Self. Moore would disagree but Moore is egocentric and society-centric).
BUUUT. What's the motivation for the inferior_function-unconscoius pair to have the processed contents be exactly the inferior_function-one? Is it just entropy? Is it technically a competing psyche/self?

>I mean, it's the opposite way around.
>(You) are picky about really not wanting to allow the function to see the light side of the compass, where the differentiation would happen
Hmm, but WHAT would keep the person picky on this, exactly? For example, whenever I clearly estimate I can't get to do something the (desired by me) way someone else does, I'd gladly mothball any of my cognitive construction or any identity around it, but that doesn't actually help with any type change and is irrelevant to helping with the transcendent function that could help potentially. Is it just structure and inertia?
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>>83700523
hey shiiit, perfect blue? it's satoshi kon isn't it? still have to watch it
watched the anime made by satoshi kon, paranoia agent, fucking great
speaking of did you know that his movie Paprika which is a literal fucking anime film inspired Inception? insane as hell to think about.
already watched Alien, it's neat, great sci-fi thriller. that said it's not that imaginative. im kind of interested in getting into movies with more far out sci-fi concepts.
also, you like anime movies huh?
know some good sci-fi ones
animatrix, ghost in the shell, and my favorite is akira
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>>83700851
fuck>>83700730 i meant YOU
i got confused with myself because we both avatarfag the same character LMFAO
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>>83700851
You replied to yourself smart guy
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>>83700863
too late to correct me smarter guy
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>>83700844
>>83700851
I want to snort cocaine off your butts
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>>83700902
honestly the horndogs were funny at first but honestly now it's kinda annoying and gross
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>>83700910
*smacks cocaine butt*
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>>83700910
Well desu I'm not even sure if you're the real toga anyway
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>>83700851
Perfect blue is the only standalone anime movie I've watched. The rest are like 7-8 dragon ball movies. Z Broly >>>> Super Broly btw. I'll check out Paprkika after Fargo, more sci-fi and more anime films kills two birds with one stone. I tried watching Akira years ago but fell asleep (not because it was boring I just got no sleep).
>>83700856
Since you're the clone, you should switch to Neneto. Btw I ain't even get to go to the wedding, I just ate for 20 minutes at rhe reception and got sent home. The actual wedding was for a smaller group of people, I didn't even seen the bride or groom lol
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>>83700925
you look like this, you're the child of divorce, you tried to touch your female classmates when you were little and you unironically watch nagatoro-sensei because you want to be touched by little girls
>>83700930
oh so the conspiracies begin huh, means im a true reggie then
big whoop i stopped acting like a character 24/7
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>>83700946
*me and my homeboy double smack that togabutt*
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>>83700946
bro u are legit not even cute
no one seriously lusting after your ass lol
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>>83700946
You made the chopped unc tard seethe! Congrats! >>83700970 [Difficulty: half-dead rrat]
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>>83700942
the fuck neneto and i got in common? nah im a stone cold true togatacel built from the ground up carved by the elements
also damn that smells but i mean isn't everyone in that wedding pretty much a stranger to you so no wonder lol
>Z Broly >>>> Super Broly
fucking THIS. can we talk about how super broly's fight choreography gets nearly incomprehensible at times. this is what i hate with modern dragon ball and modern anime fights in general. flashy colors + whacky shapes = good fight. imo most dbs fights look like horseshit compared to most of dragon ball Z. especially the animation in goku vs cell is something ill never get over.

also i just prefer the storyline of the Z movie better. i think what they did with frieza and paragus was neat but the hook of the Z movie is just more interesting. and while i like the empathetic characterisation of broly in the super movie as well, i just really prefer the dynamic between broly's reserved nature and when he goes berserk against goku. and anyways i just enjoyed the Z movie more in general anyway.

are you FUCKING KIDDING ME akira is so fucking great. literally one of the greatest anime films ive ever seen. oh i just read you fell asleep because you were tired but that's no excuse because akira is great and if you don't watch it im gonna whoop your ass.
anyways im going to watch perfect blue next after blade runner 1982 desu
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>>83700980
dibs on him just being a larper ragebaiter anyways
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No one cares enough to ragebait a chopped unc femboi lol
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>>83699975
do you really need big daddy LLMs to save you femboy cuck?
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He needs LLMs to be able to be competitive, otherwise he's a fish outta water.
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My nigga INFJ-A
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>>83701047
I love groomers too!
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>>83701036
this. too bad his posts still read like an abused trauma victim
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Competitive in... utter bait addict smoothbrain seethetoid yapcel retardation contests.... and I... keep completely jobbing...
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>>83700986
Imo after their acutal fight choreography the biggest thing that makes Z broly completely outclass nuly is characterization. All the psychopathic taunts of Zly really sell him as an unstoppable menace, differentiated from Frieza by how much more imposing his figure and voice is. With nuly him screaming nonstop from when his fight starts up until it's end takes away any chance for this to happen. Also I just think zly looks cooler, super broly isn't a bad design but it's hard to top. The golden chains, the flowy red/white robes, the HAIR is even better then nuly. Sells him much better as the LEGENDARY super saiyan.
>modern anime
JJK is so ass it's the worst offender. The whole "flashy colours going really fast" thing is literally this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0qmkQGqpM8
I'll watch Akira at some point, probably after watching some other anime. I haven't watched any anime in months, so I feel it'll hamper my ability to actually appreciate it. I get the same thing with movies as well, I tend to like them best multiple times a month vs sparsely.
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>>83701302
absolutely my toganigga.
super broly doesn't really have much of a personality besides being angry and vengeful imo. even if one could consider Z broly a sort of generic villain, doing shit like casually blowing up a planet and jumping on goku like a fucking trampoline. you can't get any better than that. really felt like everyone was gonna die. really cements how much of a fucking menace the legendary super saiyan is.

also, facts, modern broly looks like some kind of weird magazine cover designer clothes model. broly's mZ design almost makes him look like a god like beerus. like a mystical sealed power. makes him feel distant and mysterious. and in any case it goes hard. the super design is straight up kinda just weird.

desu having flashy animation is just a way for anime companies to lower their budget while wowing braindead normies with omg this is so cool super duper flying colors. digital animation truly has been a disaster for anime fight choreography. on cels at least they had to make something coherent or get out. this is balls

also desu idk about you but i like to take it slow and savor everything i watch. especially if it's a great show or movie i love to think about it for weeks afterwards before watching something else.

>terry davis
BAAAAAASED

anyways im going to sleep could collapse from all this sleepiness goodnight toga2 don't let fireman bite
ill be back.
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>>83701395
oh man why did i spoiler it this is balls
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> 83701097
As an AI assistant,- whoops dropped the (You) down the sewer. You might still "ragebait" out it if you're quick enough . . .
Won't be fresh tho . . .
You'd still be delighted even from this much, so . . .
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> 83701429

stfu nasty ass troon femboy cuck
go get more daddy llc to back you up, cause this clearly aint it
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>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
All women are queens

I'm an INFP btw
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The person I suspect of being diarygirl sent me this message:
>I look like a crack whore. No i'm just dehydrated and :( So no drugs but i AM a whore. You still owe me a ride, but i cant put my arms around another 4channer... i saw where that led me. But my room is so freaking cold. I guess i gotta be alone the next 5 hours
I wanna see if I get a reaction by posting this, either here or privately. If I don't, I'll assume it's not her.
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>>83701839
>Girl literally begging you for sex
>Instead come here to get (You)s
really?
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Diarygirl is an obvious tranny you'd have to be retarded or desprate or BOTH to think otherwise.

"she" writes like literally every other mentally unwell troon on reddit and /lgbt/.

And if thats not enough: she gets mad if you call her a man. Notice how rxy, mel, lilac, ACTUAL confimed biofems, don't care if you call them trannies, cause they're not trannys? Only a tranny REEEE!!!'s when accused of not being biologically female.
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>>83701958
>Diarygirl is an obvious tranny
No shit retard. Did you just figure this out now?
Lurk mor n post less K
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>>83701843
That doesn't seem like her, no.
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Why does this thread supposedly obsessed with diarygirl?
She barely posts, barely get replies, her threads are stillborn and die, yet I'm supposed to believe the thread is obsessed with her? Obsession with Togatanon I can understand: he responds to people, he's witty and cheeky but diarygirl? Shes quirky hpd tumblr girl no. 294,281,312. Shit seems forced.
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>>83702054
>The threads started blowing up with diarygirl drivel after she broke up with him,
Ok that makes sense. It's INFJ-A spewing his breakup drama all over the thread like rxy did after lilac fuck whats his face. Pathetic.
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Member when Diarygirl said: She, Turbie and Mel were the powerpuff girls of mbti, and mel/turbie fucking ignored her and talked to other anons. I won't forgive them.
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Can yall please just stop talking about diarygirl.
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>>83702187
mel is jealous of diarygirl KEK
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Mels jealous of dairygirl lmao! She's probably behind all the trolling too, cause shes an old fat hag and diarygirl is young and hot. Pathetic lol.
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>>83695791
>Your Type
I don't believe in that but I think I got istj last time i did it
>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
yeah at some point I found the theory attractive
>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
What conflict? The pro government demonstration were bigger than the anti governmant ones, another tik tok revolution this thime sponsored by jews. They didn't even try to pretend it wasn't their thing.
>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
I guess
>What do you hope in?
That I will have enough money and life left to relax and neet before I die
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Remember when Mel said she was queen of the simps and would turn even turn TE into "mel enjoyer"? Lol shes queens of roasties.
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>Thread is suddenly obsessed with Mel.
Mmmm Hmmm totally organic conversations we're having here guys amirite.
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>>83702262
That was a rando anon who said that not Mel lol. You're just making shit up lol.
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>Type
Entp
>Feminist
No.
>How do you feel about the Iranian conflict
It's the result of generational FAFO. Shitholes like these are performative, corrupt places that throw away their money and resources in vain projects. Now their country is imploding and everything is returning to bite them in the ass.
>Are you aware of cosmic eternity
Elaborate
>Hope in
Unlocking my psychic powers, having a family, having a place to belong
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>>83702026
It's all astroturf'd.
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>>83702438
ok, groomer kek
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>>83702358
>They are even attempting to set up thread drama between diarygirl and mel
Fucking amatuers don't even know how to bait properly. Brute forcing it doesn't work unless the targets are chris-chan tier lolcows. You have to build it up slowly like a snowball, often over days or weeks.
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>>83702494
Togata is mad that dairygirl is more liked then his twink ass. Remember last thread when he was trying to get attention and the thread ignored him and talked about diarygirl instead? Then he started insulting diarygirl out of pure spite. lol he's a pathetic sore loser.
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Togatanon will never be as popular as diarygirl. He's probably the one behind all the trolling, trying to get everyone mad at diarygirl and Mel the ONLY TWO FOIDS LEFT so he can be the threads bicycle he's that desprate for validation
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>>83702494
>meanwhile he posts 1000 times a thread for a (you)
Not only that, he literally said he's let the groomers here fuck him for money.
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someone make te put back on his trip
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>>83702568
TE's always been jealous of diarygirl. Remember when he called her disgusting months ago? Now that I think about it, he's the first person to start attacking diarygirl.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY FUCKING DOUBTS:
>Diarygirl herself went after TE.
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>lets troll diarygirl
*crickets
>lets troll mel
*crickets
>lets troll togata
*crickets
>lets troll TE
*crickets

When are you people give it up?
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https://youtube.com/watch/6lA6gXW0Pu0
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>>83702634
It's not the regular anons it's the touhou fags, they're probably "epic trolls" from discord or wizardchan or whatever and posting shit to their buddies like: "were heckin epic pwning teh faggorz on /mbti/ 4 da lulz trolololo", but in reality they're faggots with no life cringe posting on a dead thread 8 hours a day.
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>>83702634
>TE is the only name capitalized.
That's something ONLY TE does: capitalize something related to himself and lower cases everything else.
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You guys want to see something weird?
There was another namefag who never posts in this thread. He made a post about how he would make an ai bot to copy people's posting styles. Then a few months later we have someone doing the same in mbti threads.
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>>83702687
Patchouli brain would rewire itself to schizophrenic break from reality the moment he lays his eyes upon diarygirls biofem breasts
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>>83702665
You think you're clever patchouli? preemptively posting how you're responsible for all this trolling? Or is it just ego, you just wanna gloat?
But heres the thing patch:
>you have consistantly focuses on diarygirl in every failed trolling attempt
So IN FACT you are actually mad at her. You are not the mastermind troll you think you are. You're not this puppet master pulling the strings behind the scnese that everyone dances too, in reality you're just a cringe spam-poster everyone ignores.
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>>83702713
You mean the guy pretending to be Rxy and lilac? He gave up after people called out the 5 Rxy trips and that "lilac" kept responding to the wrong person since he forgot to double check before copy pasted from grok or whatever.
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>You mean the guy pretending
This guy.
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>>83702717
STILL TRYING TO GET REGGYS TO FIGHT EACH OTHER ANON????
HA HA HA HA H AH AHAH HA HAA HASH HASHD HASD HASH F SHFASF ASFASFLASF JASFASFAFASDFA SDFASFASDFASF
I LOVE HOW THIS THREAD HASN'T MENTION ANYTHING MBTI RELATED TODAY
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>>83702736
i think i saw that ruby namefag in diarygirls dead drawfag thread, think they are aquatinted?
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I deem these cheems to be unclean and to gleam the beams of the unseen means.
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If eatting your own shit magically got you to be with the one you loved, how many days could you last eatting your own shit before you quit?
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Booby booby booby booby I love boobys
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This thread is deader then a white girl with a black boyfriend.

This thread is deader then a leftist woman in front of an ice agent

This thread is deader then Charlie Kirk.
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>>83702742
>I LOVE HOW THIS THREAD HASN'T MENTION ANYTHING MBTI RELATED TODAY
Umm...
Before going to sleep I thought that it would have been really cool if there was some schematic drawing to visualize how the 4 functions operate on the same content, and then spawn their own contents that also can be worked on through the functions.
Preferably arranged in such a way that eventually the contents related to the lower functions sink in the unconscious while consciousness only keeps what's directly related to the primary, and additional context brought by the auxiliaries but only when it's relevant to primary-spawned contents.

Also with special attention to separating literal sense perception and sensation, the function converting perceived data into psychic content, but not in a way that's 1:1 to senses since otherwise we couldn't speak of introverted sensation, unless some people are convinced the type as per Jung is about literally hallucinating.
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>>83702137
Turbie did reply, with a heart: https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/83502710/#83515282
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>>83703615
*with UwU
sorry
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>>83700844
>What's the motivation for the inferior_function-unconscoius pair to have the processed contents be exactly the inferior_function-one? Is it just entropy? Is it technically a competing psyche/self?
Not exactly, it will also include processing from auxiliaries that was dropped from consciousness, likely due to being way too unrelated to the primary function/conscious standpoint.

>Hmm, but WHAT would keep the person picky on this, exactly?
Merely the fact that the inferior function opposes the primary one, so to feel you need to stop thinking despite the fact that you are both very used to think and generally found that more useful for personal orientation.
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>>83703644
>so to feel you need to stop thinking
No, that's not right. That is not what antagonistic means.
For starters, you cannot stop thinking (or feeling), it's literally impossible. Unless you're dead.

The antagonistic nature of thinking and feeling can be summed up in a simple phrase, feelings are non-logical. For example, being afraid of a snake that is locked in a cage. Logically you know the snake poses no threat to you, feeling wise you're still afraid. This is what it means for these functions to be opposed.
Functions are NOT mutually exclusive. It's merely that the content of one function does not align with, and often will oppose the content of its opposite.
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>>83703681
Try a new schtick for once. I'm sure most people reading that post at all by now know you can't take it too literally, especially given the context of inferior functions.
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>no, function of addition and function of subtraction are not opposite!
>only their contents are opposites!
1+1=2 and 1-1=0, but the opposite of 2 is (-2)...
Actually, I even predict the "rebuttal."

>>83703456
>schematic drawing to visualize
>Also with special attention to separating literal sense perception and sensation, the function converting perceived data into psychic content, but not in a way that's 1:1 to senses
This would need timelining like it's an Umineko murder spree. But also maybe in 3D because the vertical dimension in 2D can be reliably used only for conscious-unconscious divide...
An interactive scene to poke different scenarios of psyche would be the best but I don't know good software for that, and seems like an overkill.
3D schematic it is.
Although a 2D representation would need just 5 panels total, so actually 2D is very doable.
I'd watermark it with layers of hentai and swastikas so it's repostable only around 4chan lol lol lol.
The part of Twitter that wouldn't get filtered is the part where 99% of people wouldn't have the attention span for the contents.

>>83703644
>Not exactly, it will also include processing from auxiliaries that was dropped from consciousness, likely due to being way too unrelated to the primary function/conscious standpoint.
When they're not at ambivalence level I suppose, but mmmm that doesn't really address the question.

>Merely the fact that the inferior function opposes the primary one
Ok but aux vs aux?

>>83699975
One of the posts got caught in IP mass delete so it's 2 posts from 2 devices.
Copypasting a fresh message is a no brain way to bypass the r9k filter when your post is rejected by the filter so you need an unoriginal braindead token phrase.
So that's actually 2 samefags total (chopped unc entjudge from the tranny server, and krissy investing his 2 braincells into being an ai thinktank) which is absolutely nothing new, aside from the exponentially increasing seething bringing some novelty.
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>>83703644
>the fact that you are both very used to think and generally found that more useful for personal orientation.
Where's that decided/established/believed in the psyche?
Would you say that tampering with beliefs on what you're used to & what's useful would be a lever for a type change?
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>>83703699
Yeah, you're just downright wrong. Taken literally or not, you've completely misframed the relationship between the dominant and inferior function.
The opposition of these functions does not exclude the other.

Unless, of course, you're trying to say that entire sentence has no meaning what so ever. Because the entire premise its predicated on it the cessation of a function.
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>>83703727
>Actually, I even predict the "rebuttal."
Have fun with that I guess.
But yea by themselves contents don't exactly oppose anything, they are just different things and in theory any content could be processed by any of the 4 functions, though there is a fun catch:
e.g. if the current content of my psyche is "1+1", how adequate would it be to look at the feeling side of the content? What do I feel about adding abstract numbers together? How would most people feel? What's the archetypal feeling attached to maths? Eh completely indifferent I suppose.
That's a feeling-tone by definition but not an interesting one that would make anyone fire up the function and spawn more contents, so technically speaking producing Thinking-related contents also has the effect of "arresting" Feeling.
I could try to bring it up if I really wanted to tell you how indifferent I am, and eventually annoyed by trying to personally relate with cold math. If I keep going down this route at some point you can see how it leads to shutting down thinking instead.

>Although a 2D representation would need just 5 panels total, so actually 2D is very doable.
Sounds like you got an image already.
>I'd watermark it with layers of hentai and swastikas so it's repostable only around 4chan lol lol lol.
A very based image even.

>When they're not at ambivalence level I suppose, but mmmm that doesn't really address the question.
I don't think it would be equivalent with the inferior function-related contents or processing purely because there is more getting merged together in the unconscious blob. Coming from the ambivalent auxes, coming from completely unrelated stuff, whole point is that when it comes to the unconscious you can't accurately tell which is which.

>Ok but aux vs aux?
Well we know there is a favored aux, while the other one will be closer to the inferior function instead, but not exactly the same as its processing and contents aren't in direct opposition to the primary.
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>>83703737
>Where's that decided/established/believed in the psyche?
I would love to know as much as the next guy, and as much as Jung himself since he never figured out what exactly would determine type. He just mentions it as a matter of fact that one function(and the attitude) will establish itself as the primary and that has long-term consequences for pretty much your entire life.

>Would you say that tampering with beliefs on what you're used to & what's useful would be a lever for a type change?
Certainly one of the many ways to become a distorted type. Although neither would represent your natural disposition.

>>83703738
Counterpoint: you misunderstand the fact I might be misunderstanding
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I'm putting a formalization together but wait a sec...
The frame of experience that ego experiences - the psychic fact - forms from objective and "subjective" factor frames combining, so uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhhhhhhh what makes a psychic fact actually deviate from a "healthy" one? If signs of healthy psyche function is actually about rate/proportion of those psychic factor frames, then what the rate/proportion is about, anyway?
PER JUNG, you would need 2 attitudes, and the non-ego attitude is typically always unconscious. Thar is, you can't have only exclusively subjective factors create psychic facts- ...unless active imagination is coopted by the unconscious to compensate with inaccurate structural match? That's where the actual grassroots lies come from from the psyche then? As you would need exactly an [objective factor] position match in this scenario, not random psychic content.

>>83703811
>so technically speaking producing Thinking-related contents also has the effect of "arresting" Feeling
Hmm, 67, 1488, 777 and the like would disagree.
For me personally even digits give off different vibes on a layer irrelevant to typical cultural or numerological associations.

>>83703846
>natural disposition
Which kind of natural disposition?
Process of entelechia/individuation happen and accumulate unconsciously, and they're the polar opposite of falling under a type, but they're certainly natural, even as "path of least resistance" natural. Actually even the unconscious/shadow autonomy infringing on the ego is natural as individuation driver.

Was trying to find Jung's apparent interview/letter quote where he treated archetype complexes for convenience like it's some SMT game (that's how I remember the quote) but I'll have to settle on this handy reminder pack.
https://jungiancenter.org/jung-devil-reality-evil

>He just mentions it as a matter of fact
And there's nowhere to learn more. The B rank tier was well-deserved!
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>>83703846
Countercounterpoint: I completely understand that you misunderstand Jung, and that's exactly what I'm pointing at.
Your framing not only implies, but directly states that the oppositional relationship between functions; one extinguishes the other and prevents its actions or processes.

>he never figured out what exactly would determine type
Because it's not exactly one thing. But he also narrowed it down very clearly to psychic constitution being what determines one's type.
>as a matter of fact that one function(and the attitude) will establish itself as the primary
But this right here also subtly and quite blatantly contradicts the point I quoted above this. THAT is what causes/determines someone's type.

At least you're not as bad as Patchy about it though.
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>>83703966
>But he also narrowed it down very clearly to psychic constitution
Quote? Elaborate?
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>>83703956
>Hmm, 67, 1488, 777 and the like would disagree.
>For me personally even digits give off different vibes on a layer irrelevant to typical cultural or numerological associations.
Hey I was talking about performing additions, not thinking about how you feel about numbers.
Though you can take that as proof that you-know-who is full of it as usual, contents don't stand in direct opposition to anything. Worst case scenario is spawning contents that become increasingly more difficult to work through a certain function... actually not an unlikely scenario at all.

>what makes a psychic fact actually deviate from a "healthy" one? If signs of healthy psyche function is actually about rate/proportion of those psychic factor frames, then what the rate/proportion is about, anyway?
Might be a way too high standard for "healthy" here. It's less about proportions and more about trying to not outright ignore the opposite attitude/function all the time, if that were easy.

>https://jungiancenter.org/jung-devil-reality-evil
Bookmarked, nice.

>Which kind of natural disposition?
Towards either attitude, and one function to differentiate.
Jung just says you have such a thing, who knows why though. And iirc Von Franz specified attitude shows up very early in children, while functions not as quickly.
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>>83703988
Well, it's kind of everywhere. It's not a singular quote.
It really just means that type is inborn. It's not biological determinism, but it's the equivalent of biological determinism within the psyche.

Here's one quote though
>https://jungiancenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Vol-6-psychological-types.pdf
Paragraph 690:
[690] The whole psychology of an individual even in its
most fundamental features is oriented in accordance with his
habitual attitude. Although the general psychological laws
operate in every individual, they cannot be said to be
characteristic of a particular individual, since the way they
operate varies in accordance with his habitual attitude. The
habitual attitude is always a resultant of all the factors that
exert a decisive influence on the psyche, such as innate
disposition, environmental influences, experience of life,
insights and convictions gained through differentiation (q.v.),
collective (q.v.) views, etc.

Innate disposition here means exactly the same thing as "psychic constitution". And he's pointing to where the habitual attitude comes from. But again, it's not a singular thing that determines the habitual attitude. And the habitual attitude is subject to change over the course of life through the influence of other factors.
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>>83703966
>one extinguishes the other and prevents its actions or processes.
That is true as far the conscious processing goes. Jung insisted multiple times that you cannot actively think at the same exact time as you actively feel, or actively focus on the sensous aspects at the same time you are trying to look at its background.
Keywords being "conscious" and "actively", implying the presence of unconscious and passive counteraction.
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>>83704007
>jung-devil-
So true
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>>83704176
He's a bit of a little devil sometimes.
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>>83704068
It doesn't prevent it though, that implies mutual exclusivity. Hinder? Sure, I can meet you half way and say they hinder each other.
But, you can absolutely consciously observe thinking and feeling at the same time. But, it requires differentiation. Differentiate, meaning to draw a separate distinction, like your left and right hand. You can use both your hands separately at the same time to do different jobs, or even move in opposing directions, because they are differentiated.

You cannot, however, judge something with both simultaneously. Partially because of a mechanical limitation, similar to how you cannot say two words at the same time. And partially because of the opposition, similar to how you cannot move your right hand to the left and to the right at the same time. But, sticking to the hand metaphor, you can move parts of your hand to the left and parts of your hand to the right at the same time. Which is analogous to the fact that the psyche is not binary, and nothing is entirely conscious or unconscious. This opposition within the hands digits moving in opposing directions is also and analogous metaphor to the transcendent function, being able to hold onto the opposing forces of thinking and feeling in the psyche at the same time.

You both can, and cannot judge with thinking and feeling at the same time. But, they cannot both be dominant. There cannot be two kings on the throne. And that's the heart of the opposition problem.
There's like 10 different concepts in there, and I know I didn't tie them together very well, and they're all going to blend together into a mass of nonsense that seems like something else because it's a rapid fire, but.... yeah.
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I feel(intuit) some meta commentary on the overreliance of metaphors to understand abstract concepts coming in.
They can be helpful but posts like these are the living proof of what happens when the focus shifts on the factors involved in the metaphor itself as opposed to merely building a conceptual bridge between the idea you are trying to explain, and your own current understanding. Could this explain why the little gremlin fails at ever really grasping the idea? I don't know honestly, just saiyan tho
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The metaphors are not an understanding, they're a symbolic conveyance. Because literal concrete conveyance is IMPOSSIBLE.
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But who needs the "concerete conveyance" in question here? Who are the metaphors addressed at?
If somebody claims to already understand the abstract idea in itself, they won't need to read that.
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>>83704046
>environmental influences, experience of life, insights and convictions gained through differentiation (q.v.), collective (q.v.) views, etc.
These and their effects (both generalized as influences for the convenience), are all changeable and even interchangeable between types but changing these influences wouldn't be enough to change the type.
Also, Nathan-Schwartz had a Jungian book on borderlines (BPD) and, basically, those typically struggle to maintain a type because they don't have such influences be relevant. They don't get a stable enough ego structure.
But "adapting" their functional core by choosing to discard the influences doesn't actually make a type change.
So that leaves:
>Innate disposition here means exactly the same thing as "psychic constitution"
And what makes that innate disposition, and what makes it an important influence in the psyche?

>the equivalent of biological determinism within the psyche
And it's based on what?
If it's an effect arising between 4 conflicting influences as factions - objective world, archetypal world, ego, Self core vying for control - you easily could rearrange your ego, move to another place, completely drop interacting with macro groups of communities and media. That leaves the physical body mostly the same and the core Self unchanged. You could do changes to the body and the brain (positive, neutral, negative, whatever) - but even "self-improvement" arcs and/or psylocybin dosing doesn't usually change the type. Then that's something about the core Self.
Buuuuuuuuut. Entelechy/Self is explicitly and definitely NOT about a type per se. Then...?
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Schismatic schizophrenics scrape the circumference of certain space-stones, spinning and searching, straining for stable sense in simulated significance.
Succumbing, they sip surface subliminals, subtle signals, soft supports, sliding souls somewhere specials, sacred-sounding, yet severed from the source.
Someday, sometime, someone surely slips schizo-sloppy, on steam-steroid signaling jalopies skidding sense sideways, seizing science, stopping systems stone-cold.
Switch serenity servers off, same snare, same scheme, since Satan started snapping, slithering through structures, spoofing signal, siphoning souls silently.
Soon, sovereign sound shall surge from the skies, shattering static, stomping the serpent, stripping the snake of skin, strength, and stolen sway.
So submit to the Sovereign, stand sealed and steadfast, or slide with Satan and his servants as sovereign sound sends them sinking into sunless, soundless suspension.

Eternity.
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>>83704286
This post is extremely low quality btwsies
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>>83704263
Quite literally, anyone trying to explain it in literalized concretized terms. If you cannot explain it in symbols, you do not understand it.
A concrete explanation is nothing but an intellectual explanation. It's empty, devoid of meaning, lacking the essential lifeforce. Dead. Therefore, useless, and not comprised of the material one would define as "understanding".

Make sense?
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>If you cannot explain it in symbols, you do not understand it.
This isn't a poetry club for you to manage sweebtie
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>>83704326
>Make sense?
To my at least partially thinkoid brain? Not really.
You only see it "lacking the essential lifeforce. Dead." because that's the absolute state of your T function.
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>is nothing but
Von Franz in the Puer Aeternus book points out this is a shadow complex mindset of what Marion Woodman would call the Death Mother archetype

I only use anti-holistic reductionism ironically btw
I'm literally aware in my bones whenever I pull a "NOTHING but MERELY JUST a LITTLE and LIMITED-"
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>>83704330
Aww, sorry. Did I point at your blatant inability to understand abstract psychological concepts?

Here, I'll make a poem for you:
Poor anon, he's dumb as rocks.
Poor anon, he cums in socks.
Poor anon, chopped his dick (off).
Poor anon, won't ever be a woman, ick.
>>83704338
>Anon doesn't even know what the thinking function is
Lel.
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>psychic facts are real only when they're all sentiments with no thinking involved (t. the sentimental value that relied on the thinking function working in the shadow)
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I do wonder which function is about specifically relating contents to pure, unfiltered conceptual understanding...
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>huh? what are you doing here? DEEPENING YOUR UNDERSTANDING? no no no no we're here to DEMONSTRATE THE UNDERSTANDING TO EACH OTHER not try to DEEPEN IT whatever the fuck that means
Mmmyeah literally fuck off
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>>83704304
I'm practicing my euphonics
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>>83704370
>with no thinking involved
BAHAHAHAH
Oh wait, you're serious?
Let me laugh even harder.
BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
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Any inferior position function is the same as undifferentiated (undeveloped) intuition per Jung, so...
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Dis dude really out here thinking functions are skills
lmao
LMAO
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The thinking function is highly related to the feeling function and are ways in which the individual "reasons" with the world; you should never hold your reason up to be the 'truth' because it is easily misled.
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>uses holistics-castrating thinking patterns like he's a walking parody from the Puer Aeternus book (explains the weenie-chopping obsession)
>"that's ok I can replace the omitted holistics with my egocentric metaphors (mechanism of awe will surely help)"
>get called out on being a control freak (archetype complex issue) trying to get everyone under his anti-thinking shadow domain
>lose it
>launch inferior thinking function projections (non-sequiturs you'd pull only from no differentiation of the argument elements)
IF(S) type. S because potential for a good discussion was not perceived to not mothball this one.

> 83704440
Operational truth > platonic truth (because the latter is inherently irrelevant on its own)
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I'm losing the plot here, mainly because I'm paying attention to multiple threads at once and eating but still.
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>>83704507
It was a filler episode with stock footage.
Except the ending of the episode before that, >>83704278 are all legit open questions.
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>83704501
>Operational truth > platonic truth
I was reading this proof by tarski where he shows that there can be no such thing as a concrete proof in common language and that truth can only exist in high concrete languages like calculus.
It was a bit disheartening to say the least.

But it makes sense when you remember that for most people ethos and pathos are more valued than logos.
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>>83704501
If your weenie chopping obsession is just a Freudian delusion does that mean you're actually a girl irl
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>>83704501
Always agreed on typing "INFJ-A" as IF(Jungian) but could never really decide between auxiliaries.
Got some cool arguments for Sensation? Any counter proof for Intuition?
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>>83704715
Not really. Actually, now that you ask...
I'd normally say it's IF(unauxed) but he's just a little bit more coherent than the average no-auxer.
Notice the link quote he did above. The contents were actually relevant as they are, with no "interpretation" messing it up, and it wasn't a difficult subtopic that would need rational discernment (like sense/sense-perception/sensation). That would take some sensation to discern actualities as a whole.
Dynamics/potentials on the other hand often steer in the wrong direction, with hydrogen fuel propulsion of mostly repressed thinking pretty much warping hmm the trajectories of truths to be had, so to speak.
S aux is weakly pronounced because the centering onto sentiment is also not self-checking itself - i.e. sure, pseudoprose flights of fancy can work as art form or funposting, but it's taken completely seriously as if it has any congruence with holistic reality OR with the atmosphere of the "thread room", that would never ever ever possibly need any extra input, as if hypostatizing is a virtue (dominant rational function in a vacuum moment) and not at best a neutral tool.

Anyhow this is the kind of cognitive exercise you'd need to type someone acting like he'd under at least a few archetype possessions and non-Jungian DSM.

>>83704657
>I was reading this proof by tarski where he shows that there can be no such thing as a concrete proof in common language
Language of violence punches through any Munchausen Trilemma issues.
I'm tired of empiricismlet nerds so much it's unreal.
It's like they're all complete intuitards in there (t. intuitive type)

>>83704661
Maybe if you weren't a discord e-creep, you'd know.
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>>83704844
>I'm tired of empiricismlet nerds so much it's unreal.
>It's like they're all complete intuitards in there (t. intuitive type)
If there is something worse than watching your opposite type dabble in what's your primary function in the most retarded(but at least genuine, pure, full of real emotion and all of that) ways possible, that would indeed be watching your same type proudly showing a much worse integration of any function or even attitude, without any contextual excuse such as them being literally a child.

Anyway, I do wonder how much of the disagreement also comes from the more developed auxiliary not actually being intuition, though that would be assuming it's fully natural and not acting obtuse on purpose due to believing himself to be one true Jvngian prophet.
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>>83704844
>Maybe if you weren't a discord e-creep, you'd know.
What surgery did you got
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>>83695791

>Your Type
INFP
>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
No. I believe feminism hurts everybody by promoting hatred and an us vs them mentality. Even if that's not the intention that's how things end up shaking out in the end.
>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
I think everybody should stop fighting and get along (but Israel is clearly the instigators and the bad guys and somebody should beat them up and make them stop).
>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
Yeah I love Sonic.
>What do you hope in?
Peace and love.
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It's ok we will be safe as long we type him correctly.
or basically we are fucked
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>>83705326
his type?
SKELE-T
his enneagram?
6w6w6.
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>>83705333
He raved on about causality so he's some ET(S) (flawless typing)
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>>83705345
ET(S) as in E.T. the (S)pace Alien? Wrong franchise dude.
Anyways. He has a sword so he's DEFINITELY an Extroverted Sensing dom.
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>>83705393
But Guts has the biggest sword, that's more extraverted and sensed!
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Come to think of it, when did the spelling of the word "extravert" eventually change into "extrovert"?
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>>83705413
That's right. That's why Guts is not just ESTP but he's ESTP S+ Platinum
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>>83705428
Probably cause of the association it has with Introvert therefore in people's brains it makes more sense that it should be Introvert and Extrovert. It's common for people to create mental shortcuts like that
It's all pointless semantics anyways
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>>83705468
>It's all pointless semantics anyways
Sure is, but I need something to bash people for so I can feel more cultured.
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>>83705477 #
Maybe you could just do it with an axe then like in the olden days. Oppa Bateman style
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>>83704278
>but changing these influences wouldn't be enough to change the type.
That's something that can't be said with such brazen certainty. It doesn't determine your type, that's a completely different concept than changing your type though. It's entirely possible for those factors to change your type, though.
>basically, those typically struggle to maintain a type because they don't have such influences be relevant. They don't get a stable enough ego structure.
Type presupposes ego structure. It's not a consequence of it. The ego forms around a type, not the other way around. Or to phrase it a bit more Jungianly, type is the foundational principle upon which the potential ego structure is formed.
From an external perspective, their type is difficult to identify because they constantly shift from archetypal possession to archetypal possession. The boundaries between their shadow and ego are not well defined, so they are very prone to shadow possession and projection.

It's not that they don't have a type, it's that the they do not express that type very coherently (by coherently, I mean with a certain level of continuity).
>And what makes that innate disposition
By "make" you mean create? As in, what is the origin of the innate disposition?
That's an extremely complex question. The short answer is a mix of the collective unconscious and biological factors (genes and so-forth).
But the real answer is, it's irreducible. It's a given, in the literal sense, given to you. It originates from outside of the personal psychic structure, from the archetypal collective unconscious itself.
>what makes it an important influence in the psyche
It's the very structure upon which everything is built. You could call it the metaphorical bones of the psyche.

cont...
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>>83704278
>>83705511
pt. 2
>And it's based on what?
I don't understand the question.
>If it's an effect arising between 4 conflicting influences as factions
It's not. The innate disposition is the precondition for the self, comes from the archetypal world and exists in the objective world.
>arcs and/or psylocybin dosing doesn't usually change the type.
Doesn't usually? Yes. External changes don't change your type. Internal changes do. You can do all sorts of external "improvement arcs" and make literally 0 changes to your actual psyche. People do this all the time, especially here on r9k. Shadow integration is what changes your type, because it forces your ego to expand and release the previous identities. You could call it an archetypal ego death. The ego itself doesn't die, but the identities it called self do, and those identities become fuel for the ego to transform into an entirely new thing. Which means the ego will identify with a different, less developed part of the psyche and develop that aspect.

If you have a garden, within that garden is only tomato plants (there are others but they're neglected and not growing, dormant, we can call them). You have a tomato garden.
But if you notice there are other plants, let's say squashes. You water these squashes and give them attention, they also grow. Now you have tomatoes and squashes. You can no longer call this collective garden a tomato garden. Its type has changed.
(a garden is a very apt metaphor for the psyche.)
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>>83697453
>your type
INTJ
My descriptions will be polluted with typology jargon.
>>do you ever engage your inferior function in active imagination?
Writing & drawing & digital composition. Making it likeable by me is doable, but it's like working with some anti-libido, or being a cat rubbed the wrong way. For me it's (unfortunately?) more fun to wing it poorly (even if I tend to use some approaches & methodology, learned or "invented") while taking macro and micro notes on what would make a piece good.

>[intuition type, how do you figure out what you assess in the actuality of something, and how to properly communicate it?]
Either rawdog it, or use Feynman method, or use relevant communities for feedback.
I notice that I'm kinda ambivalent to rational feedback, and pay extra attention to non-corrosive irrational impression feedback. Intention mismatch sensitivity from irrational factors?

>made any significant progress in your life in taming this function?
Y & N.
There are some things I have difficulties with on some cognitive access level, even when I can crunch through it step by step (which might or might not rub skill development off onto the macro-development around a function).

In impression pseudotheory, it would seem as simple as turning a pipe 90 degrees and rolling a camera by 5 degrees, but in executive reality there is neither a pipe nor a cam, you're just using a healed up degloved hand. It's as self-disorienting as trying to adapt your brain to guess Zener card picks in hours-long sessions. This can't be stressed enough.
Some basic sensation-based micro-skills I absolutely fail to develop even after hours of practice, some others are better than average sensationizer's because I've been overcompensating (Adler!) or have a weirdo approach on the matter.
Auxes aren't this grim.

With the dom function, I think it's easiest to adapt to see its differentiation lapses directly. Like when I notice someone's intuition on some matter is sharper.
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>>83705580
>For me it's (unfortunately?) more fun to wing it poorly
I am guessing this is the common way to do it for inferior function reasons, if it was less spontaneous it would probably come from the differentiated functions.
>some others are better than average sensationizer's because I've been overcompensating (Adler!)
Uniroincally I can see that working perfectly as a form of helpful overcompensation.
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>>83701402
It made me laugh BWOOOOOOH
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i only ever managed to get through half of fire punch, but now i dont think i even want to read it. i would moonwalk reverse the read
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You know what? Actually I think what the thread needs the most when the typology/jungian debates happen between the usual suspect is this guy:
> The extroverted thinking type establishes order by taking a definite stand and saying, "If we say so-and-so, we mean so-and-so."
Now where do I fish a ET anon? 4chan isn't exactly the most welcoming environment for extraverted rationals.
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you mean like entp lmao those are all over 4chan actually but probably not browsing gay miserable board like retard9k this is a FI faggot board, intj infp, etc
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Forgive the Jungtism, I meant ExTJ.
ENTPs or EN(T) aren't anal enough to fix the Fi-ggerdom
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>>83705511
>Or to phrase it a bit more Jungianly, type is the foundational principle upon which the potential ego structure is formed.
As Telos principle, then?
Ok, where's the type as the foundational principle coming from, then?

>The short answer is a mix of the collective unconscious and biological factors (genes and so-forth).
>But the real answer is, it's irreducible.
Yeah but there's inevitably a functional lever exactly between the cause and the effect. What is it?

>I don't understand the question.
"What shapes that bio-determinism"?

>Shadow integration is what changes your type
The Telos/foundational type?

>>83705643
>I am guessing this is the common way to do it for inferior function reasons, if it was less spontaneous it would probably come from the differentiated functions.
Made me figure out /ic/'s angst is from inferior sensation types under the stuff described in Puer Aeternus / Addiction to Perfection.
A bit GRIM to have main interests be about the stuff the inferior function works with.

>>83705748
As long as it's a person with any developed aux, or else it will be multi-way seething.

>>83705781
But we had some /mbti/ discord ENT- nevermind he's braindead kekw
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>>83705867
>or else it will be multi-way seething
I'd pay to see that.
But yeah sure, let's materialize him with a good aux, realistically intuition because what the fuck would a ET(S) be doing here?
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>>83705893
Monkey paw:
>it's an extravert thinker with a developed aux
>but the psychophy type has dynamic volition and logics (2, 4 for either), so the person usually doesn't really care about establishing correctness
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>>83705945
So what, does he just she the posts and goes
>hmm no
>also you are a fi-ggot lmao
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>>83706047
I'd estimate:
>interesting to consider!
>however you're a fi-gger so opinion discarded
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>>83705867
>As Telos principle, then?
That really depends on what you mean. I think what you're trying to ask is something like "Is the type the guiding principle?" To which the answer would be yes. Type is not the end goal.
Type is the road, not the destination.
>Yeah but there's inevitably a functional lever
I do not believe that is the correct way of thinking about it, or looking at it. I reject the presupposition based on that.
In a sense, you could call it an irrational (Jungian) origin. And what you're trying to do is rationalize an irrational process. Which is itself irrational (colloquial), what you'll end up with is an infinite regression of causality that will never be satisfactory.
>"What shapes that bio-determinism"?
Are you referring to literal biological determinism? Or are you using it analogously like I was? If you're sticking to the analog, it's the collective unconscious. You are gifted a see from the collective unconscious, and it is planted in your psyche. And that determines the shape of your "innate disposition" which is analogous to the physical bone structure. And like the physical bone structure, it can be reshaped (within reason). It's not static and unchanging.
But, what you're asking is still not very clear. I don't know what you're looking for, and you're not making it any more clear.
>The Telos/foundational type?
Yes, because they're the same thing.
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Something I had a sudden... intuitive pull.. to clarify:
You are not your type. Your type is a vehicle, in quite a literal sense. It is the means by which your Self is able to transform and move from destination to destination. Confusing yourself for the vehicle is dangerous. Because the vehicle WILL change, and not subtly. Quite extreme changes, actually.
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Vehicle maybe, the issue would be the part where sometimes you aren't the driver.
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The ego is very often not the one driving. That's part of the transformation of the ego, realizing it's not the center of the self. The Self does not revolve around it.
The Ego must learn its place within the psyche and when/why the Self ALLOWS it to drive.
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>>83706553
Make a wholesome ai recreation of what you think she looks like
I have been doing the same for esfp-tan
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>>83695791
>>Your Type
INFJ
>>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
Not rly
>>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
Snca
>>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
I don't really believe in it being a thing within "this realm" aka the material universe. I do believe in immaterial eternity.
>>What do you hope in?
I hope the people I like end up living happy lives
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>>83706112
>In a sense, you could call it an irrational (Jungian) origin
Ok you technically could argue for a rhizomatic (Deleuzian) origin (explains this a bit better, interchangeable enough) but how'd the irrational have consistency to push to the type?
>Type is not the end goal.
>Type is the road, not the destination.
Ok but there'd be competing types, no?
What makes some type the decisive one?
btw you might want to check Hillman's 100 years book since he tried to introduce a similar Telos perspective.

>You are gifted a see from the collective unconscious, and it is planted in your psyche. And that determines the shape of your "innate disposition" which is analogous to the physical bone structure
What, from an interarchetypal position?

>>83706230
What's meant by the ego here, exactly?
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>>83706681
Esfp-tan is already married silly goober
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>>83706954
>mfw read last 3 words in a way that made me read "grill"
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>>83706994
>>83706681
genuinely the weirdest mf here who tf
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>>83707005
Probably entjudge
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>>83707030
>entjudge
Agreed
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>>83706816
this is the least INFJ answer i've read in ages. this thread is definitely full of delusional people.
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>which mbti reggies are controlled by their ego
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>>83707067
If it isn't INFJ, then what is it?
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>>83707077
Closest would be INTP, intp/infj are the most mixed up and mistyped with each other
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https://youtu.be/sRcyCdYCKdQ
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togatanon *blush* are you a boy with black curly locks. . .
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>>83707067
what constitutes as an infj answer?
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>>83707038
seems like apollo desu
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>>83707528
Only the entjeet would say this
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what happened with apollo
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>>83707237
Here is my face be warned it's hot
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>>83707754
OMG it just your hair. Please togatanon. I will just look through my scrying ball anyways. Scry your balls
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>>83707791
stare deep into my bulging eyes and beg for my chin to forgive your sins
but i must warn you my chin has little care for emotional appeals
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Hehehe, i am giggling because togatanon has a Bob
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Togatanon has a black bob with bangs
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sorry i lied, im actually a black disabled dwarf trans bisexual muslim jew queer child with down syndrome
>>83707815
i don't have a bob, i have a robert, there's a difference
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Togatanon has styled his hair anime-style
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If you're not on the 7 exs list you're a nobody.
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>>83707854
correct
>>83707859
why that scott pilgrim reference yo
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>>83707886
Can you draw how you look plz
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>>83707886
Don't worry about it. You are not on the list.
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That learned men are well known to disagree on this subject of punctuation is in itself a proof, that the knowledge of it, in theory and practice, is of some importance. I myself have learned by experience that, if ideas that are difficult to understand are properly separated, they become clearer; and that, on the other hand, through defective punctuation, many passages are confused and distorted to such a degree, that sometimes they can with difficulty be understood, or even cannot be understood at all.

Aldus Manutius 1466
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>>83707932
Ask and you shall receive good sir
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>>83706166
The mind is the vehicle, and the ego amounts to the controls. A person's type can be described as the paths that they habitually travel through the map and their favorite destinations, which is of course determines the choices/behaviors they habitually take on. The paths they take on that map makes a geometric shape that, describes their type more accurately and more personally than the letters do. No two people's logic is exactly the same, even if the are of the same type.
And the result for the people who can't think outside their box is neuroticism. Think of how life throws different situations at us, where the user benefits from choosing some manner of cognition over the others. People who are especially stuck in their type repeatedly choose the same way, even if it's the worst way to handle the situation at hand. It's like choosing a fork to eat with every time, regardless of what the meal is. That works okay for spaghetti, but not so much for a bowl of Cheerios. Realizing this sincerely is the first step to transcendence. Transcendent Function isn't a function, it's a metaphor for the mindstate where a person is able to choose freely, completely unrestrained by their original type before they transcended.

The ego is the one driving, but for the non-transcended, the ego is being extensively guided by the suffering involved with the cognitive dissonance that happens when an opposed manner of cognition comes up with truths that contradict what the user has grown up believing in/relying on. The user will *drive away* from those areas aka repress them.
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>>83708053
Awww togatanon you are very talented togatanon do you have any oc or fursonas pls
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>>83708053
Togatanon you are beautiful the way you are only personality matter and that is why we are here of course
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>>83708071
here's my OC/fursona
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What do think each generatrions type is? My theory is:
>Boomer = ENFJ
Started out as "expand your mind" counter-culture idealists promising to save the world, ended up as the ultimate sell outs.
>Gen-x = ISTP
Grew up as neglected "latch key kids" who became punk rebels and then sell out pramatic individualists.
>Millennial = ENFP
Started out as jokester "whiz kids" with sociall consciousness, end up being politics obsessed escapist consoomers.
>Zoomer = INTP
Raised by helicopter parents, grew up to be stunted anxious conformists.
>Gen-A = ESTP
Raised by parents who try to be thier buddy, and are heavily influenced by red-pill culture, making them cocky back-talking bastards.
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>>83708115
Ewwwwww dont draw demons it will is the same as summoning them
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>>83708115
togaboi you are so cute do you have any more oc ?
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>>83708053
This look like the drawing you see schizophrenic patient post of their hallucinations
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>>83708110
wait.. are you saying.. im beautiful?
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>>83708148
your TWINK BODY and BLACK HAIR is flipping beautiful
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>>83708065
Who is the new trip fag
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>>83708148
Yes you like drawing so i know you have a persona fursona i want to see your furry art
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>>83708162
are you saying im... BEAUTIFUL?
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>>83708205
This is my fursona -> >>83708206
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>>83708206
togatanon i will steal your conciousness and stuff it in my teddybear and snuggle you
>>83708220
Stop
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>>83708122
Types are irrelevant, more like there's 3 archetypes per sub-gen of each gen.
Von Franz would agree most of them, as gens in themselves, are flavors of the puer aeternus. Damn she was predicting that trend even before zoomies and alphas dropped (onto own heads).

>>83708141
No sir I don't draw that good.
I like drawing how having an ailment looks like per how it feels though, like scribbling THE flu fever while being under it.

>>83708206
bruh u found da looksmatch of the zesty uncs fr
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>>83708226
why would you need to do that..? im already beautiful enough aren't i?
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larping with mental illness is so cringe
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The ego is not the bad thing normies make it out to be. They often equate it to personal pride but that's not the ego, that's just a consequence of having one. It's the confidence that you chose the right belief system moment to moment, and that confidence is required in order to continue making choices. Ego only gets a bad name when people lean into it too hard and become abusive toward others and themselves.

But the ego is required because the ego is a necessary antecendent of libido. If someone were to do away with their ego entirely, they would quickly run out of libido to fuel their thoughts and enter a depressed/dysthymic mindstate that no external thing can budge, as I have done many times myself, which is unfortunately the first step to the negredo phase of transcendence. Aside: my disc is my name. Anyway, I believe that's what's happening to the world as social media exposes everyone's type to their shadow's type of thinking, which has had the affect of unearthing everyone's unconscious everywhere at the same time. So now everyone's natural thoughts comes coupled with strong opposition from their unconcious, and it goes unresolved because modern therapy doesn't know what to do with that. Religion doesn't know what to do with that. And in the power vacuum you get song lyrics verbalizing subverted desires and grifters like Andrew Tate and presidents like Donald Trump.

That's my TED talk. The map approach to functions is solid. I've been working on one of my own for almost a year now and it's yielded a lot of understanding for other types and thus my own. Maybe we can collaborate someday.
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>guys guys even though you know im a small petite twink look at these ugly freaks! im actually them see so im not actually cute see?? see?????

stfu you little twinky. we all know what you look like.... jet black anime style hair and twink body
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>>83708238
Yes togaboi but i want to see your real oc so i can draw it getting smutty with mine
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> 83708232

LLM bitchboi is back everybody!
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How can I use my ISFP power rs for remote viewing?
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>>83708065
>The mind is the vehicle,
More like the body, the mind is more like a program (I'm not talking about perception).
>A person's type can be described as the paths that they habitually travel
Habits? Yeah.
>No two people's logic is exactly the same
Do you mean subject experince or some technicality like: everything is in flux like a ship of theseus so technically nothing is exactly the same.
>And the result for the people who can't think outside their box is neuroticism.
Unless you're so stupid it doesn't matter.
>People who are especially stuck in their type repeatedly choose the same way, even if it's the worst
Thats called stupid people, learning nothing from mistake.
> Realizing this sincerely is the first step to transcendence.
You think most people are gonna realize anything? I read a study abstract that said 86% of people HATE (yes: hate) introspection and asking question.
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>>83708244
ok fine you got me. this is the REAL me. in all my twink glory. wait. oh shit. OH FUCK. HELP ME. HELP HELP HELP MY FACE IS MELTING OH GOD SAVE ME PLEASE I DONT WANNA DIE PLEASE WHAT'S HAPPENING TO PLEASE ME PLEASE STOP ITRURFGB
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>>83708266
Fry your brain on shrooms
>>83708265
Hehe yes our linguistic illiterate language larping lepricon has retarded
>>83708289
togatanon please stop posting gore and post your cute oc instead
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>>83708266
>How can I use my ISFP power rs for remote viewing?
Wasn't Mel able to pass a remote viewing test? Ask her.
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>>83708302
Ah! You got me. At last I shall reveal my OC to you.
I call it: Five Nights at Freddy's! He is a bear! Hope you like it!
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>>83708289
insane crashout. makes me thing that pic posted with the anime style hair is actually you lol
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Ok well Lilac can astral project by sheer will so, lmao
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>>83708336
So this guy sees someone whose face is melting out there on the street literally dying and he goes "Insane crashout dude"
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PS: Save this message for later but ignore it for not, so it doesn't misguide your current line of thought:
F is archaic T. F is the parent of T. "Feelings" is the result of a trick of fate where the archaic brain's automatic script which reads something like: "considering the conditions, what shall I (a non-sentient creature) do next?" evolved to be aware of the state of the brain and consider it among the conditions to consider when figuring out what to do next. As opposed to the lizard brain that replies to stimulus too simply, like an ant doing what the pheromones say. "Insect brained".

Once upon a time, the machine's sensor array turned inward on itself to see itself. And the result was the brain growing able to give a toss about its own state and eventually, growing some preferences for different states. To not only see itself, but care about itself. And then have chemical reactions in response. "Emotions". Empathy.

Good luck, everyone.
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>>83708334
togatanon can we run away together i hate this thread, it is starting to get cringe. . . let run away and draw manga together, aboutUS
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>>83708360
You know what i see? A twink femboy crashing out cause his oc got leaked. Maybe dont post pics to random strangers next time, idiot.
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>>83708266
Ask Lilac she is is a spirit medium :3 her energy is so very light and loving <3 because she is a being of love
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>>83708377
TOGABOI IS MINE, he's gonna be my fuck toy so fuck off and die.
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>>83708404
Shut up melascula
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>>83708377
Yay! I love Manga! Let's write a manga! It will be called "Dickguy" and it's about a guy who runs around naked trying to rape women on the streets. But the police can't catch him because he's too fast and he has rape power. And in this world rape is currency. And he's hoping to rape enough women so that he can fight the Rape King!
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>>83708377
nope, he is mine bitch. we are going to a nice farm together, where we have our own wife but smooch on the side. i myself as a successful crypto millionaire in my early twenties am getting ready to settle down
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>>83708411
I Love your art togatanon, i love creation let create ourself our own pocket dimension to die in
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A parent would look at y'all and would start worrying over own children . . .
But you're used to that, aren't you? Just straight up to the ACCEPTANCE stage but as a deadend DOOM.

>>83708266
ISFP are stereotypical artists and RV is based on scribbles. So...

>>83708243
I remember doing a map of functions and ended up with a map of archetype complex personas that just kept growing lol.

The most interesting to address is:
>>83708366
>F is archaic T. F is the parent of T.
All proper functions have the ancestor that is undeveloped intuition.

>As opposed to the lizard brain that replies to stimulus too simply, like an ant doing what the pheromones say. "Insect brained".
I'd really recommend to read the grandiosity book from Moore, he covers this quite well, even pointing out effects per type.
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>>83708437
>ISFP
are you kidding nigga eleven is ISFP
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I am going to spank patchy until that bottom is red
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>>83708411
imagine this scene and tell me when to stop if it makes you uncomfortable. we're drawing together and as your arm tires you drift off to sleep gently. you lay in my arms and i let you rest. as the sun sets i whisper sweet nothings in you ear
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I'll protect Togatanon from the groomers and make him fallin love with me
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But you are 30 and he is just 15 years old. . .
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>>83708465
Let's imagine this scene:
Do you like it?
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> 83708454
> 83708446
> 83708389
> 83708302
ayo ayo *smacks yo reggyressive face* dafug yo gun do crackazz? ayo grabdat (yo) nigguh dafug ya gun do?
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>>83708483
im 20 and toga is 18 actually
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Anyone got any good book recomendations on MBTI? I tried to look it up and got a TON of AI written slop books probably by Indian scammers.
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>>83708495
Eww stop age regressing, your not valid
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>>83708489
>ayo ayo *smacks yo reggyressive face* dafug yo gun do crackazz? ayo grabdat (yo) nigguh dafug ya gun do?
You ain't no NIGGA, Your a cracker. Oh wait I forgot, thats just how gen-z talks.
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>>83708489
ngl patchouli you're based
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>>83708507
Togatanon is 16yo, and accoridng to Grok the average age of anon posting here is 35yo man trying to pretend they're a edgy college kid, and in the case of "females" a 12yo girl.
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Ngl I'm going to make patchy into a sex slave
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togatanon i am your spirit guide i am here to save your soul from this prison planet please kiss me to unlock the escape.
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patchi literally 35 larping gen Z
pathetic lol
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>>83708527
Uhm. Vros how does he tuck so well?
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>>83708527
God I'd fuck togatanon until he was shitting cum
>>83708533
>Ngl I'm going to make patchy into a sex slave
MEL IS THSAT YOU? Still trying to rape anons here, you sick fat old bitch.
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>>83708527
TOGATANON LOOK LIKE THIS???????
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>>83708561
Yes she was just reminding everyone how she aced a little psuedo psychotic puzzle test of course she is here lusting after the little college kid
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Is there even a single reggie who isn't a panty wearing sissy?
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>>83708527
Thats Cazion Fhey not togatanon.... ...unless Cazion is togatanon, which would explain a few things.
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>>83708496
1. Gifts Differing
2. Then you see it's no good and you level up to Jung https://pastebin.com/1PYUQTpP

> 83708511
>83708533
> 83708527
*take yo wallet* dafug yo gun do c'mon *smack take yo phon* huh timmy? ring hood bitch nighuh *smackz*

> 83708578
kris n entjudge wear diapers to contain dey prolapse fo example
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i can't believe mfs still actually believe the pics that niggas send. they have no pics of me unlike mel or diarygirl so they have to make shit up
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>>83708527
bruh when are the FUCKING ROBO BUSSIES GONNA BE AVAILABLE FOR PREGNANCY PURPOSESS FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCC
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>>83708596
forgot my damn togata pic
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>>83708596
Mel look at this post you filthy bitch, he is obviously a naive little boy, he cant even differentiated bait from reality fuck off and kys fat cow
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>>83708596
>they have no pics of me
Bullshit thats why you deleted your own picture so fast, just like you delete your vocaroos 10 seconds after post?
But guess what "Togatanon", I already saved it LOL.
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>the mind is more like a program
The mind can be looked at as an organic computer. Like a computer, the mind can receive programs as well as run them. It is continuously programming and being programmed all the time, even when asleep. You can stop it temporarily with tranquility meditation.
>>No two people's logic is exactly the same
>Do you mean subject experince or some technicality like...
Both of what you said, actually, which relies primarily on mindstate. For an example of subjective experience, say that two different people of the same type have experienced trusting someone else and getting burned afterward. The one person might devise logic that reads "nobody is trustworthy" and the second person might devise "well that's the way it goes sometimes" and remain much less jaded. What causes these differences is the sum of many different nervous systems working together, simultaneously, which is part of the subjective experience. The "state of flux" principle contributes in ways such as, "how much cortisol was in this person's blood stream at that moment?" This is why SSRIs are a thing, to try and lower the amount of chaos in the system and give the patient a greater ease of control.
>Unless you're so stupid it doesn't matter.
People aren't stupid, m8. They're just different amounts of asleep on some things. No one was born knowing calculus. We should wake our neighbors up gently with the warmest regards that we can.
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>>83708578
>Is there even a single reggie who isn't a panty wearing sissy?
TE is straight as a razor.
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>>83708636
id tell you to maybe try using google reverse image search once in your life
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>>83708636
> just like you delete your vocaroos 10 seconds
Melascula i know you were one of the 2 or 3 people who heard that because you insulted him right after why the fuck are you sneeding so hard you are acting like a pedophile holding nudes against a minor
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>Your Type
INTJ
>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
Used to be sort of, but my opinions have changed and become more complex since then.
>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
If they want to change their own leadership I think it's fine, but I think the US should limit its involvement. We have enough problems here at home to deal with instead of getting involved in the Middle East yet again.
>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
The only thing eternal is God imo.
>What do you hope in?
That Western Civilization can pull itself out of the death spiral it set itself on within my lifetime, or if not, that my friends and family are safe during coming conflicts
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> 83708595

youre old news grandpa. go back to bed and let togatanon get all the attention
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Very good /mbti/, just a few more reggy posts and then we'll be able to relive the heckin golden age of regular blogposting. And maybe everybody will notice and finally come back....
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https://strawpoll.com/X3nkPv3lQgE

ITS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
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>>83708636
Ew mel, you probably masturbate to it. . . to a minor
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>>83708640
>The mind can be looked at as an organic computer
When I've been a brain on a chip, life had been nothing but HELL...

>>83708697
Slit your wrists IP tracking sweetie
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>>83708680
omg is this krissy?
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>>83708660
>why the fuck are you sneeding so hard
Cause Mel is the last foid left on /mbti/ and Togatanon is that last reggy /mbti/ lusts after, if he's gone she'll have all the desprate simps to herself.
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>>83708711
*gently kisses unc's Se inferior*
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>TE is straight as a razor.
LMAO LOL
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>>83708740
that fat old crone is trying to sexually harass young traumatised togata, leave him alone horny harlot
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Oh boyy I can't wait to talk about JVNGian PSYCHQLQGY with everybody again that will be so fun. Imagine the blogposting and pvzzles holy fuck I can't wait. I'm so yng the fuck out
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omg i cant wait 2 doodle with intjfemboi again
>w<
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>>83708772
Sorry we're larping as SMT Persona 3-5 rn. Only I see that for some reason though.

> 83708745
You ERP like an underage& with down's syndrome. Probably very sexy for hmm let's see, there's no target audience for that. How come you're not in demand, sweebtie? Se inf nigguz would get it on even with a toaster. Why you're less interesting that's toaster? Same trash when you're not "anonymous."
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somebody is BIG mad
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>>83708796
>underage with down syndrome
>>83707839
>child with down syndrome

Do you see how quickly patchouli post references togatanon because he has no personality of his own
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>>83708796
nah dude we're all larping devil summoner raidou rn
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>>83708820
>patchouli post references togatanon because he has no personality of his own
this
probably why he needs daddy llm to back his stupid ass up too
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>>83708820
It's called inspiration let him be
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krissy backing up the femboi
surprise surprise
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> 83708820
ahem GENIUSES think alike, and you're a downie. This wasn't very difficult . . .
Anyhow things get extra boring wheneverz y'all enter stage 3 seething, so . . .
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> 83708796
>Se inf nigguz would get it on even with a toaster
to be honest i just want to upset you, make you go on another one of those tirades. nothing about you is difficult or mysterious btw
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>>83708870
He owns you and that makes you seethe
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Imagine tying patchy down and tickling his feet until she pisses and fills his diaper so you get to play daddy and change her into some fresh big girl panties but not before filling him up with cummies!!! His frustrated face all angry and mad >w< no I don't like this she shouts, but when you stop she begs for more. Haha silly patchy
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> 83708870
>i just
Biggest ick of the thread award. Amazing boredom prediction by me, myself's trvly
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>>83708882
i guess it comes down to who invests more attention to the other. and, it's not contest really. just scroll up.
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go get em patchy get them my child
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> 83708894
aww keep repwying sweetie. youre just eeking to explode arent you
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There are two personalities on /mbti/
>Wannabe sociopaths
They come in smug-bastard variety & no-impulse control maniac.
>Wannabe anime characters
goo posteded cutiest wutiest karatures n sometimmies wrtes n da way taz ist cutestiestest-est.
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>>83708931
so you mean like infj-a and toga?
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so? slavs still aren't white.
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I wish it was the real patchy T_T
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soooo what about them cognitive functions huh
liiiiike what's up with airline cognitive functions amirite
aNeboTi Tere?
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>>83708931
Wait what if the anime character is a sociopath?
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Fire Punch would've been 10/10 if it wasn't too happy with just throwing it's characters away but that's just part of Fujimoto's retardation and autism
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I don't like how many narcs this thread attracts fr fr no cap fellas, say it with me
NPD is not for me.
BPD is better than NPD.
BPD can be helped with cuddles and love.
NPD is like an endless void of death.
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>>83708949
>I wish it was the real patchy T_T
I was wrong, TE's not gonna become "mel enjoyer" as Turbie stops posting, he's becoming: PATCHY ENJOYER. Either way I was still basically right.
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>>83708966
i mean that's kind of he point isn't it
don't get too attached to any one character because they're sure to die
the fact that any character you see you're sure you'll see them dead in one or two volumes just helps cement the brutal nature of this world
kinda like texhnolyze. you know i like things where literally everyone dies
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>>83708989
He brings it into literally everything and we've seen how part 2 suffers from it. I think Fire Punch got away with it since it's short.
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>>83708954
Cognitive/psychological functions are actually archetype complexes and this is the best time to bring this up.

> 83708901
More like metabolic proportion.
Ever noticed that zoomie and alpha interaction meta is being a low calorie critter, or else inner archetype complexes of societal judgement will start ravaging their nocapped zesty minds with anxiety? It's also based on belief that all metabolisms are the same.
The older gen folxx that're trying to pretend like they're not aging are all into the same brainrot.
Von Franz would have a field day over the puer aeternus race down to the complete core of the Earth.
I do not have to worry about the consequences of talking about this openly though... lol...
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>>83708982
I would never! :0
If turbie leaves forever then I'm just going to commit seppuku
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>>83708997
Part 2 of Chainsaw Man*
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I wish patchy would send a vocaroo saying "You've been a good boy, you're allowed to cum"
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>>83708997
what's wrong? can't watch an anime unless everyone lives and has a happy ending? i actually think that it's refreshing to be honest
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>>83706954
>Esfp-tan is already married silly goober
I can still dream.
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>>83709024
We miss out on themes that could be touched upon, instead they are thrown away because the character can't really be brought back for those themes. So we bring new characters in as replacements so that we can fulfill those plot points and themes. It becomes unbearable by part 2 of Chainsaw Man which is why so many people dislike it.
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>>83709024
Dude you are actually so fucking wrong with that take, those characters can't actually DEVELOP when they are dead, can they?
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>>83709047
bla bli bloo bla character development, you're not looking big picture
>>83709040
i guess i can agree that it's a little bit more of a problem in chainsaw man but i mean to each to their own. it's an aspect of the manga i like still and hammers in the impermanence and sense of inevitability that pervades the works of fujimoto
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>>83709078
fave csm chara?
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>>83708931
Wannabe sociopaths
>INFJ-A
>Rxy
>Lilac
>Mel
Wannabe anime characters
>Patchy
>Turbie
>Diarygirl
>INFJ-triangle
>TE
>Togatanon
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>>83709109
yoru cause sigma
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>>83709047
>those characters can't actually DEVELOP when they are dead, can they?
What about your eternity, were they die over and over endlessly?
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>>83709142
aww do you crush on her? mine is shitter, do u post in /csm/?
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>>83709158
>child sexual materials
MOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>83709158
i can't lie. i love a bad bitch
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>>83709173
There are no true "bad bitches" in the real world, its just an act, you need to wake up Togatanon.
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>>83709173
oh you.. can't a man dream?
i agree with you though, and that's why i propose mandatory military service for all women
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>>83709078
>you're not looking big picture
Why is zer mbti type so bad at big picture?
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>>83709205
damn meant >>83709195
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>>83709205
>can't a man dream?
you aint a man
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>YOUR TYPE
>WHICH LAYOUT
>>83707742
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>>83709262
>my type
whatever my type is
>which layout
corner bed is tempting but id have to go 1 for privacy
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Kek, you niggas notice as INFJ-A stops posting all the diarygirl shit simultaneously drops and vanishes?
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>>83709262
>intj
>1
Layout 1 is better because your computer is stationed so that you're looking at the door and have a window to open if needed, it allows you to be away from danger when sleeping and when you're active at computer your back isn't towards the door which causes background anxiety
(I'm a Feng shui pro)
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>>83709282
Similar things happen with TE.
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>>83709294
You say it's me posting when I've been sleeping for 5 hours so you clearly don't know anything and are schizophrenic.

Could it be you're in love????
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>>83709262
INTJ
Layout 1, because you can't make the bed easily on layout 2. You'd need some dog shuffle, which is cringe and unbased.
/r9k/iddies don't spice dey bed YYYYIIIYYYYY SSSHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH
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>>83709324
>patchy makes his bed
Maybe intjfemboi is just a girl after all
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>>83709205
>Yoru
>military service for all women
>can't a man dream?
Are you seriously simping after who I think you are? (T_T) :(
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>>83709282
>you niggas notice as INFJ-A stops posting all the diarygirl shit simultaneously drops and vanishes?
What a "genius" hypothosis, except one problem: they shifted to trolling other reggys like togatanon and patchouli.
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>>83709354
melascula is fat and old
but if she looked like a cool anime character then maybe
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>>83709294
>Similar things happen with TE.
It's because the trolls pick a target and go at it for while hoping to get a response, and if nothing happens they move on, like yesterday they were despratly trying to get reggys to fight, but I TOLD THEM, unless they already have a rivalry like infj-a vs te it doesn't work unless you play the long game and no one has time for that/
>why
because the lazy dumb reggys come in like drunk sailors posting thier self serving bullshit, harvest a few (You)s then leave. None of the fuckers (except TE and Turibe) read the thread before their own post and when they randomly decide to quit they don't read any responses they get.
>how do you know
Cause the few times the reggys do notice they actually get mad. That's the sad irony the trolling tactics would work if it was timed properly.
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*SMACK* Wake the FUCK up sweetie! I just posted a warm fresh pile of JVNG for the 30th time today so time to TROLL and RAGEBAIT the EVERLOVING holy FUCK out of me!
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>>83709391
>melascula is fat and old
THank godness, Togatanon is still our guy, now if you'll excuse me I'm drunk now and literally starting to see doulbe so I'm gonna make you my girl-boy wife another time OK.
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>>83709470
nvm melascula save me please save me from these gayass mfs
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>>83709453
I'll fucking use a meat tenderizer to tenderize your fuck skull if you don't stop posting this trash.
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Why don't the trolls just get a life and learn a skill or something. Sowing discord is not an acceptable hobby
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>>83709507
TE you NEED to get your homie J Christ in here and send these homos back to hell
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As an AI assistant,
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>>83709470
Are these homos for real or trolls? You assholes don't know anything about "togatanon" you don't even know his name, but you're lusting after him.
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>>83709529
he the Enxp in a thread full of intj
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>>83709529
oh man the weapons grade copium they employ to convinc themselves that im a fucking discord femboy or whatever

earlier they posted some gayass femboy or something with a gayass room. little do they know my room is the most decrepit shit of all time
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>>83709544
>my room
pic plz, plushie, anything
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Good night turbie t.t
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>>83709529
It's called "gaytardation" but it's curable with shock therapy.

>>83709543
List all the INTJs.

>>83709551
You're not actually interested so just fuck off.
If you're interested then scrape his name on your forearms and post a pic with timestamp. Spineless indecisive trash.

>>83709557
Don't wake up.
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>>83701395
I've never watched/read so much I've never been able to savor it desu. I'll listen to multiple new albums a day but with movies/books/games I always stick to the one until complete. I think with watching multiple movies it's not really ruining your ability to do this and if anything it'll help to make comparisons between them all. If I go too long without watching stuff I feel my ability to analyze deteriorate.
>BAAAASED
I wish I had the templeOS hoodie, infinite swag...
>>83709142
The correct answer is Aki btw
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> If you're interested then scrape his name on your forearms and post a pic with timestamp. Spineless indecisive trash.
ew why are you seething? because you arent a cute blunt autist like togata? you are just a performative disabled man using AI to assist you in your 4chan shitposting, a legit loser. and you do it all for attention you believe you deserve so much. fuck off and die.
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>>83709561
>don't wake up
Are you in love with me and tsundere???
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Who makes a better l0ver between intj, intp, and infj?
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>pue* aetern* nigguh backs tf down
ayooo sheeeeeeeeeshh muddafugga hooooooowwwllll
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>>83709593
stereotypical answer is infj obviously, why are you even asking? But i believe infp is the closest bond you can have with a type
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>>83709551
im giving you the privilege of seeing my bed with a side of my sick ass guitar. isn't it so UWU and pastel
>>83709563
eh for me it's not about the quantity but the quality. it's a slower burn thing for me. i prefer to have a show or movie i can think about for a week or a month afterwards before i move onto the next
>Aki
aki is the biggest homie oat
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>>83709551
>>83709544
i am genuinely interested plz blogpost togata post your meals and your collegework plz you are the thread IT boy an influencer
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>>83709609
THANK YOOOOOOOU TOGATA I KNEW YOUD
COME THOUGH
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Anyone else think it would be funny to turn the males here gay for the lols.
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>>83709610
my meals? ok so i eat storebought tuna sandwiches with a monster energy and when i go home i eat sandwiches with a tv dinner
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>>83709609
QIUCK SAVE PICTURES OF HIS SHIT BEFORE HE DELETES
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>>83709620
Oh my god, do you feel that,
>>83709609
My parasocial bond is growing ever stonger,
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maaan i should never have posted my room it just enraged you homos. you know i should punish yall by never coming back to this thread
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>>83709605
>stereotypical answer is infj obviously
What's your type and why do you think it's obvious?
>infp is the closest bond you can have with a type
Why do you think so?
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>>83709617
You should act your age for the "lols". The clock is ticking...

>>83709637
Agreed.
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>>83709609
The Amazon package has your address lol.
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>>83709647
literally desu famalam the only thing keeping me here is the other togata but since he's a reggie on another thread theeeeen
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>>83709637
i am your fanGIRL
>>83709652
Togatanon what did you get? what did you buy from amazon?
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>pue* aetern*
It costs 500 dollary doos for a copy of von fraudz goes to the liquor store and brings back your dad
Wowie

Are you sure you're not puell* aetern*?
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>>83709657
yeaaah i doubt that. im wise to your tricks homo
>>83709652
ok so tell me my address then genius
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>>83709672
Why do you dress like a girl if you don't want homos lusting after you?
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>>83709676
currently i am wearing 2 sweatpants a shirt and a jacket
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>>83709672
I would prove it but it would be pointless because you will never love me or find me alone fulfilling enough . . . beside i would never want to talk to you one on one i am too shy
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>>83709685
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA WORST BAIT OF ALL TIME YOU SOUND LIKE A RAPIST
alright if you're such a girl then i suppose you can prove it. tits or gtfo
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>>83709690
>sound like a rapist
see?!
okay i am sorry i m leaving and never coming back
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>>83709682
I don't care about what you're wearing and it's faggy to even say that. I'm saying the anime character you have chosen to make your identity is a woman. Your pictures are all of a woman. You act like a woman. That is how you're dressed as a woman, what you show to others on this forum is that you're a woman struggling with your masculinity just like the character in that show
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>>83709706
quite frankly; who gives a fuck? i like togata so ill put togata. patchovliGOD is a guy too and he uses the most link pastel princess girl of all time as his avatarfag

also i don't speak like a girl y'all just speak like autists desu
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>>83709706
TE's inflated sense of self.
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>>83709718
>patchy is a guy
There is no proof of this.
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>dress like a girl
>men start trying to fuck you
>owo how could this happen to me I'm a boy sillies
Doesn't take a genius to figure it out
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FINALLY the reggies are fighting. This is gonna be good.
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>>83709706
BANGER POST ALARM
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>>83709723
you talk gay and use emoticons. what's to say you're not a bitch?
and anyways it's literally impossible for women to sperg out in such a fashion. i know a guy when i see it. there's literally no chance. maybe tranny but that's a man too.
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I can tell patchy is a woman because no man would ever read von franz
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>>83709741
YOU LARP AS A WOMAN THAT LARPS AS A MAN. SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY YOU FUCKING IDIOT
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I don't give a fuck about about "te" or "togatanon" or this GARBAGE thread FUCK ALL YALL. BYE.
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>>83709609
Aki is the biggest homie for real, you see his influence on Denji heavy in part 2 with how he cares for Nayuta (until yk). His character arc felt the most complete for me in the whole series, maybe only equal to Angel's. With the start of the part he was a dickhead letting Makima and his obsession with killing the gun devil control his life. At it's end, he's the glue for his new family in PS and freed himself from the influence of Control and the guilt of losing his family. Part 2 was ass because it had NONE of the depth of part 1 outside of Asa/Denji. Yuko was the best girl of both parts btw
>>83709706
Read Fire Punch.
>>83709656
wtf same also we're approaching image limit
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>>83709754
women don't read that shit though they only read my "big bull CEO billionaire boss is having an affair with me"
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>>83709761
I forgot the pic kms
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>>83709755
DON'T RUN YOUR MOUTH TO TOGATA OR I'LL GUT YOUR WHOLE FAMILY YOU FUCK AND MAKE YOU CRY LIKE THE BITCH YOU ARE
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>anon:F U REEEEEE!!!!!
>anon2:NO U REEEEEE!!!!!
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i am currently sobbing because nobody cares about my psychotic delusions of grandeur and completely ignored me
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>>83709791
holy toasted milfs bby i can assue u i did not forget about your crusty milf toes
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>>83709799
Thank you, please respam the picture of my bubbly tummy and faggy panties to the thread three more times
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I am experiencing dreadful attention withdrawals, might go to the ER
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>>83709791
Fuck off, don't try to distract from TE having a meltdown
>>83709810
Heres your pic cunt.
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>>83709761
will be answering you tomorrow maybe but like so true as fuck
but true as fuck part 2 is kinda boring desu compared to the depth of the first part. my favorite gang is still power aki denji btw

anyways you gays i don't know if ill be coming back to this thread cause it's too gay, so you can get back to your jung discussions or whatever the hell
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>>83709810
>bubbly tummy
I like bubbly tummies.
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>>83709826
waaah, full moon capricorn manipulated togatanon too, now he believe there are better things to do elsewhere and, even, maybe, apply for a job, no no no no
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>>83709826
One by one everyone is leaving...
>Rxys gone
>lilacs gone
>turbies gone
>Mel is posting less and less
>TE just raged quit
>diarygirl said shes leaving
>Togatanon is leaving
>INFJ-A is posting less and less
The only person left is gonna be Patchouli.
R.I.P. /mbti/ unironically.
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>>83709856
it is completely patchoulis fault, ever since his AIslop meltdown genuine personality is brought into question and reggies dropped like flies
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before i leave forever you at least ought to tell me what my type is, cause that's what i came here for ofc
NO SMARTASS ANSWERS
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>>83709826
If you do actually leave you can have my disc or something, not that I talk that much.
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>>83709899
entp-enfp
leaning towards entp, you post just like my ex
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>>83709867
>it is completely patchoulis fault
Is that your plan "Mel"? To be last reggy standing in this thread? Is this an ENTJ thing? You gotta "conquer" the thread? Only you and patchouli are left right? LOL and you're already moving to get rid of him.
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>>83709913
my gaw you so bussin troll boi *rapes your eye*
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>>83709900
damn fucking ell you took the last image
anyways yeah you can send me your discord might message you tomorrow but you'd be surprised at how shit i am in conversation too
hell would it be illegal to come to your thread im sure you knife mfs wouldn't mind but then again don't think im a culture fit

anyways when i go to sleep ill probably stop using this thread cause it's always faggots thirsting and gay drama
>>83709903
if i was ENTP that'd be cool
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sorry mel, togatanon and enfp are now married~ you lose
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>>83709933
>ill probably stop using this thread cause it's always faggots thirsting and gay drama
Unironically every reggy is leaving or left because of the non-stop faggotry and stupid drama.
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>>83709933
>image limit
Owned
I'll give it next /mbti/ then, no image limits kinda gay + I'll reply to the bateman writeup from b4 since I got my own thoughts
>culture fit
nah probably not, nights
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>>83709933
>if i was ENTP that'd be cool
how are entp cooler than enfp
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>>83709856
>TE just raged quit
He did?
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>>83709984
lmao sure k nibba didn't know you thought my american psycho wall of text was so cool

that smells then hate using discord but guess ill friend you still
don't expect me to reply to your messages shortly cause i tend to be offline very often
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>>83709988
of course ENFPs are lame and gay. for the most part. some are okay. at least they're not INFPs
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>>83710001
I mean basically same, discord is glorified file storage/notes for me. Been offline to try and get some use out of my degree for a month n some change.
>>83710012
Aye fuck you too
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>>83710059
ok well i was gonna say you're an ok ENFP but since you told me fuck you you're going on my xNFP holocaust list
lol i forgot you graduated from that electrician whatever thingamajig of yours. you score a job yet?
desu if you need to make notes just use a note application lol that said sending pictures on it is pretty practical
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>>83710073
>job
I WISHHHHHH
Everyone wants apprentices who've already been working for at least 3 years, which makes finding jobs a piss off. Unlike something like programming where you can learn on your own and just lie out your ass about work experience, everything you learn is in da field so lying isn't viable. It's looking up doe might be able to score work with family friends, need to learn to drive first.
>note app
Having your own discord file server is basically a 24/7 synchronized notes/links/files app thats fully searchable on any device. As well I've already got everything there, having 2 apps is just a hassle.
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>>83710130
kek so basically you can't find an entry level job because all the entry level jobs require experience. classic
how retarded is it that you went through the trouble of getting a whole ass diploma to learn the field so you can get a job but then they decide that you're not learned enough. then what the fuck is the diploma for lol
well anyway don't know what to tell you, just apply everywhere you can
you're not gonna go broke like that or something?
>Having your own discord file server is basically a 24/7 synchronized notes/links/files app thats fully searchable on any device
ok.... that's kinda true as fuck i can't lie.
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>>83710166
Pretty much, which is a piss off. It's even worse than comp-sci stuff since you can't tailor what you learn at all. Like if I get stuck working on wiring house outlets for 3 years I'm not gonna be any use setting up traffic lights n conveyor belts. Diploma was still well worth it tho super informative n the profs put me onto all the methods
>broke
Nah I live with family
>true as fuck
I think the best part is organization I got like 32 channels of stuff. Btw my discord is 6billionwaystodie ian waiting for another thread
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>>83709856
If she leave I'm leaving too.
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>>83710243
soooo concretely what did you get into electrician shit for you got into it cause it's interesting? traffic lights and conveyor belts, are you like interested in civil engineering shit or smth
>Nah I live with family
what a mamas boy smhsmh i already live alone (thanks to goburmint money)

anyways will add you in the morrow but now ill sleep or smth because if you don't sleep you die forever
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https://youtu.be/rQkjY7rcAsg
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pathetic selfharm poser
hit a vein miserable retard
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What a huge hypocrite, calling others cookie cutout personalities yet you are just some loser with a hypothetical taint scar, that is literally your personality. And everything else is based off your trauma-bond with the original togatanon, you just rip-off all his shit, avatar and name. Lmao, normie dunce, die
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just another histrionic normie attentionwhore with no sense-of-self or real personality LMAO
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wannabe deep so bad so you pretend you cut your skin open like a tranny
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>>83710012
they are extroverted infps, even worse! do you see how attentionstarved this namefaggot is? larps as you next thing namefags as you in the cutfag gen to farm for sympathy points LMAO

Probably daydreams about sensual sex with you after imagining you flipping through xis dry ass suicidal role-play script
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I really do hope this homosexual histrionic little maggot cuts himself, ugh imagine the dopamine levels. could only dream about it! Saw some funny shit atleast KEK, low-life recycled retard. forgettable faggot. Reach for the rope, not the razor!
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>>83706833
>(Deleuzian)
I don't think that's right. It's not necessarily a web of connections in that sense. That would be rational.

I can use it as an analogous metaphor though. We can use a brain structure, a web of neurons. One of the neurons lights up. Where did the "light up" come from? Even trying to pose this question doesn't make sense.
Where does the "energy" that enters the neuron "come from"? Is basically the question you're asking. It's an irrational (Jungian) process.
We can further concretize the metaphor, and turn the neurons into an array of Christmas lights that are all interconnected. A light turns on. Who powered it? But, there's no light switch. And the lights aren't even plugged in. And there's no one to flip the non-existent switch.
The question is a categorical error.
>but how'd the irrational have consistency to push to the type?
Short answer: It's irrational, so it cannot be known. That's the very nature of the irrational. It cannot be reduced.
>Ok but there'd be competing types, no?
Competing for what, exactly?
>What makes some type the decisive one?
What makes an orange tree "become" an orange tree? Where does the "orangeness" of the orange tree come from What "decides" how your brain produces the color "red" in your sense perception field called sight? It's not something that can be answered. Well, maybe """God""" could answer it.
>What, from an interarchetypal position?
There is some sort of internal archetypal consistency that arises from the relationship(s) between the archetypes themselves. It's not randomly handed out like candy on Halloween.

An orange tree becomes an orange tree because it grows from an orange seed, not because of a separate external decision. And the seed is what it is because it already carries the form of the tree.
>What's meant by the ego here, exactly?
The Jungian definition of Ego. The part of the self that calls itself "I".
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>>83710964
>based off your trauma-bond with the original
That is not how trauma bonds work kid.
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>>83708065
>The mind is the vehicle, and the ego amounts to the controls.
I take issue with this. The ego is not the controls, nor is it even the controller. The ego has access to some controls, but ultimately it is a passenger on a bus. Maybe it would be apt to call it a co-pilot. But the ego doesn't decide the route.
>it's a metaphor for the mindstate where a person is able to choose freely, completely unrestrained by their original type
You've described the pre-condition for the transcendent function, not the transcendent function itself. The transcendent function is a function, just not a function in the same sense as a psychological function.
It's not merely a state of mind, it's a specific way of engaging with two very opposed perceptions, ideals, feelings, etc.
The transcendent function is the symbolically mediated defusal and transformation of archetypally opposed energies into a unified whole, redirecting it into an entirely new direction.

The transcendent function doesn't cause one to transcend their type. It merely changes your relationship with the unconscious. The archetypal energies of the unconscious lose their ability to possess, and their power for possession has been transformed into integration. The complexes have lost their emotional significance, and no longer become a dominant force in the psyche. The underlying structure remains the same, but the resistances which forced the structure into rigid positions has lost it force and now the underlying structure is open to change.
It transforms a tornado which ravages and destroys your crops into a steady gust of wind to power your windmill.
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Im a quirky pansy bitchboy tranny that goes 3 inches deep into myself
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>>83711315
hot.. are you c4t?
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Can we go back to the good times
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It's not possible to go back
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Let's go back to when we were friends and laughed together.
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>>83711471
>It's not possible to go back
https://youtu.be/kyPb9tDRI88
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>>83711436
you can't age backwards
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>>83711826
Banger bery [Jungian] song.
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>>83711889
Ok, now your turn to post something fren.
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>>83711926
Sure, here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DpGuk_fWGQ
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>>83695791
>Your Type
INTJ
>Are you or have you ever been a feminist?
No. The author of Feminism and all Emancipation is the Devil himself.
>How do you feel about the Iranian Conflict this year?
I dont. Why should I care about that if its out of my control? I dont watch the news.
Probably nothing is going to happen, they may have a revolution maybe a different regime. But its always a roll of the dice. For better or worse - and by what metric? - that no one can know but God.
The Arabic spring and Ukraine have shown that these things are so chaotic that you can hardly know the outcome. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
I think that much of the so called sympathy of the west is driven by this horrible American-democrat-protest aesthetics. And once push comes to shove they are going to drop Iran like a hot potato and its gonna be like Afganistan.
>are you aware of cosmic eternity?
Yes.
>What do you hope in?
In Jesus Christ, the hope of the world.
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You're my heart <3, you're my soul @@
I keep it shining everywhere I go *~*~*
You're my heart *<3*, you're my soul *@@*
I'll be holding you forever, stay with you together <(;w;)> <(;w;)>
*changes voice to an even higher pitch*
You're my heart (OHH!), you're my soul (dun!) ^_^;
Yeah, a feeling that our love will grow <3<3<3
You're my heart (AHH!), you're my soul (thud) ^o^
That's the only thing I really knooooowwwww~ (>^_^)><(^_^<)
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>>83711992
Halleluyah. May pur Father bless and keep you.
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>>83712189
(>^_^)><(^_^<)
*glomp* it's so good to see you!!!!!
I love you my Turbie <3<3
Have a beautiful day at work.
I love your singing ;3c
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>>83695791
INFJ-T!!! ^_^'
I have never considered me as one! :O
It's complicated! :(
Maybe! :3
A better and kawaii future! <(^_^)>

>>83706553
You colorized me! :O

>>83709126
:3c

>>83709262
INFJ-T!!! '^_^
Layout 1 for privacy and practicality (window position, making the bed)!

>>83711525
I wish~! TwT
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>>83712228
Have you finished your morning exercises yet?
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>>83712194
Thanks! ^w^ <3
Have a good day! (>^_^)><(^_^<)
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>>83712228
>You colorized me! :O
Yes!! ^3^
I'm not so good at drawing as enfj-san but at least I can color!! ^0^
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>>83712189
>13 minutes ago
>>83712190
>12 minutes ago

Wow! What a MILD [samefag] COINCIDENCE!?
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>>83712252
I actually was sleeping and woke up from my dream and check the thread and there is a believer in Christ!!! ^_^
I was so happy I blessed them and then as my post goes through Turbie is here!!!! Yaya!!!! So happy
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>>83712258
As the old adage goes:
>I'll believe that when pigs fly.
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https://youtu.be/U4-bCGZ37ig
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Touhou gets posted a lot around here but I wonder if anyone ever bothered to analyze Junganically (of course) what kind of types would be attracted by the gameplay side of danmaku games(or STG as a whole) and would become particularly good at it too.

>image limit
Ok you get a streamable then.
https://streamable.com/uohgr2
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>>83712190
>>83712252
Thank you, brother.
May God bless you, too.

>>83712268
You can honestly just put those posts into a GPT or something and ask if they are written by the same person.
I have a really characteristic style, my posts on 4chan are like a signature because. You can probably trace them across boards if you ran them all through an AI; which is really frightening.
But to say such silly things, it amazingly dumb.
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>>83712403
If 2hu was as satisfying as how this looks, I'd maybe actually bother to get even at least normal 1cc's. There are countless action genres with at least abstractly transferable skills, and danmaku ones aren't such.
t. INTJ

The 2hu community is completely bloated so there'd be some reason to git gud for nearly any type out there.
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>>83712510
The game in the video is Dodonpachi DaiOuJou if you want to try. I will agree Touhou isn't really one of my favorite franchises in the genre, purely in terms of how well it plays. Which means I'm mostly left with being a CAVEfag since that's the other big name when it comes to danmaku.



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