Femanons what would you do if you entered your room only to find your bf spread out in your bed dressed in some of your clothes visibly having cum just few seconds ago like in picrel?
>>83738577Break up. It means he would have been dishonest about his sexuality and true desires. I won't date a lying man and I'm not interested in sissy/crossdressing/coomer shit on a man.
>>83738577Put him in a chastity cage, as obviously he wants to get pounded in the ass from now on
>>83738577cut off her penis
>>83738581you know that wanting to look pretty doesnt exclude being attracted to women?
>>83738577Clearly the next step is for me to fuck his gf (now my onahole) in front of him, and then him when he's frustrated enough. He'll shut up when he cums from his ass enough times and has my thick pearly cum dribbling out of his little faggot butt cheeks.
>>83738581Dressing up like a girl and sexuality are two different things.
>>83738627You know that she still doesn't want to date a degenerate cross dressing sissy faggot?
>>83739271Can you even say you're attracted to women if you don't wear their clothes?
>>83738577beat the shit out of him because my clothes are expensive and i don't want cum stains on them
>>83739422Pretty sure ejaculate will be removed by a regular washing machine without any trouble.
>>83739422would you tease him about it?
>>83739033Yeah cross dressing might be even worse and more abnormal than being gay.
>>83739473crossdressing will never be more abnormal than homosexuality as long as the crossdresser is straight
>>83739473>wearing pink colored fabric is worse than having men put their dicks up your asshole???
>>83739518>>83739549Stop wearing a skirt, you look horrible.
>>83739617It's for jerking off in, not to impress other people.
>>83739518You will never be straight because for that you would have to be a man and not a prissy degenerate sodomite bitch.
>>83739518whatever you do don't look up the correlation between crossdressing and becoming a serial killer
>>83739434don't care still getting beat for making me do the laundry again>>83739461only if he was cute (rare for men)
>>83739660Crossdressers are straighter than bodybuilders by far.If you look conventionally handsome as a man it's probably because you like men enough to know how to make yourself look that way.
>>83739422>>83739686>dyke instantly resorts to domestic violenceFunny.
>>83739695how is it domestic violence he was basically asking for it
>>83739670Proves the point that crossdressers are mostly straight. High test serial killer chads like to cosplay as their victims.
>>83738581No wonder they sneak goddamn.
>>83739777It's an IQ test. If you aren't retarded you don't share your crossdressing with your gf or wife.
>>83739805>Just want to be honest>Lose everythingBrutal
>>83739703anime pfp guys irl
>>83739703>women will simp for this
>>83738581Women are just lifelong brainwashed sissies if you think about it.
>>83739851Moreso miserable thorny cunts that don't deserve the attention the demand by failing basic standards, such as accountability, etc.
>>83739851Imagine how mentally ill you'd be if you lived your entire life without a dick.
>>83739911Metaphysical cock cage that cannot be removed even conceptually.Hot as fuck.
>>83738577I would hug him and sleep with him.well if he wasn't nonexsistent.
>>83739947You're a real one. I hope you find the crossdressing sissy bf you deserve.
>>83739851>>83739933>when you on acid while on sissyhypno
>>83739702He was asking for it in the sense that he wanted you to beat his prostate not his face
>>83740017He's right tho. Women are pretty trippy to think about existentially.It's hard to believe anyone actually lives as a woman.
It seems like 90+% of women either love gender nonconforming men or really fucking hate their guts, no in between. Am i wrong?
>>83740052Id say 90% dont really care about them and wouldnt date them and the other 10% feel the same way but performatively indulge it. When women "hate" something they generally just avoid it and are neutral towards it.
>>83740017Think about the life of a woman. When a little girl first realizes she's missing a penis, she's already had the color pink pushed onto her for years. As she develops, defeat and weakness become the foci of her cognition, she comes to understand that being overpowered by a big strong man is the sexual pleasure available to her. She learns how to doll herself up and entice would-be conquerors from friends and role models. She is fed a steady diet of low-brow, borderline-infantilizing slop from every media outlet to keep her head empty.If she's a good girl, someday her insides will be pumped full of a superior's seed and her body will morph to show everyone what good breeding stock she is, while her brain will be constantly flooded with hormones to make her better suited to the job.
I'm on hrt and wondering if a girl thinks I'm cute and datable. Discord cutestuffscarystuff
>>83740021he'll take what he can get
>>83740175>>83740027>when you gets so little pussy that you metamorphose into pussy
It's not my fault I can't get pussy. :l I was born this way
>foids will never know what it feels like to have a beautiful girl squeezed around their cockDamn that sucks buddy haha
>>83740244Pussy is mid unless she's freaky, but that's usuall the case if her father hit that first. Guys know what guys want, women don't know what they want, which is why when they fag out, the "man" in the relationship ends up beating the fuck out of the other.
>>83740233He basically just paraphrased Sigmund Freud, and that guy got plenty of pussy.
>>83738577>>83739947Unironically this is what my wife did when she caught me in a similar position.She then lectured me the next day about being an idiot for not buying myself cute clothes.Yes, I know, I'm a very lucky bastard.
>>83740282His drug addled mother doesn't count anon, allegedly raped drugged clients as well, wasn't he also jewish?
>>83740202Tranny 'cord pedo groomer detected. Sending 100 nigger apes to rape and infect him with monkey aids
>>83740308did you end up transitioning?
>>83740308you've won at life I hope you take care of your wife as much as she takes care of you.
>>83740202Are you an hrtfemboy or a transgirl?
>>83739406I would rather be a straight masculine man with dignity than a foid worshiping simp tranny who wants to skinwalk as the object of his obsession.
>>83740560Depends what you mean by transitioning.Do I take estrogen? Yes.Do I girlmode at some events and have fun? Also, yes.Do I go around calling myself a woman? Hell no!It's fun when I get gendered female, but it's no issue whatsoever when I don't.I dress androgynous or slightly fem (depending on your stereotypes) and... that's it. Nothing overly sexual (again, except private appropriate themed events or where weirdness is acceptable).>>83740561Oh yes.Having a kinky wife with true open mindedness is winning the lottery.
>>83740596Was she fine with you starting estrogen? I feel like it would be super awkward to bring that up like>Hey Jane I want to look more feminine so I am gonna start taking female hormones
>>83740504He had 6 kids and an affair with his wife's younger sister, so point is you can't say that kind of perspective is due to lack of pussy. Him being a bad person i.e. a jew is besides the point.
Eww another tranny thread.
>>83740625Not that anon, but I feel like it wouldn't be a big deal if you don't make it a big deal.Like if you do some big announcement about how you're starting a gender transition that will come across as cringe to most normal people.But if you just take estradiol and don't be delusional about the minimal effects it has there isn't much for people to cringe over.
>>83740652>Eww another tranny thread. There's no way, i would stay and goon with you unless.........hghhhhnnnnnnnn nnnnn, I hate trannies so much it makes my clitty leak i i i i i have to k c-c-cut it offfffff. I will cut off my dick and shove a massive dildo in my ass, because I truly hate trannies so much hhhhghnnnnnnnnnnn
>>83740625I just casually told her. And she was like "don't ruin your dick" and I laughed and then invited her for a dicking, lol.No, I'm serious. That was the whole conversation. She already knew I wanted to lean in on a feminine aesthetic anyway.It does help that she's kinky too and it was a reasonable thing for her to ask about sexual function. The hardest part were the first ~4 months (HRT initially nukes libido) but we made it fun with toys and patience. In the process we discovered quite a few new things about our bodies.Now I get to mog trannies on every aspect. I get everything that trannies don't: being loved, functional sex life, functional life in general, continue to be attractive and get to scratch my itches.Of course, I told nobody else. From everyone else's perspective I just decided to go from kinda-sorta-masc to clearly androgynous. I could hide it better but I don't want to. I'm not harming anyone and who exactly says men can't have softer skin and long hair?
>>83740693so true though king
>>83740693Oh look. Another chuddette nona?Hi there.>>83740723Bro, don't throw us all under the bus (though you are right about way too many of us).I'm happy you made this work. I'd do it too if it were possible. But at 5'4'' permagirlmoding is the only way this works for me.Hugs.
I would take a long road trip with him, but only I would return
>>83739820>>83739805>>83739777>men shill for being deceitful rapist liars
>>83740791>it's rape if you don't tell your gf you jerk off while wearing women's clothes sometimeslol
>>83740867It is. If you are an evil person who lures someone into sex that you know would otherwise not sleep with you if they knew the truth it's rape.
>>83740870Literally everything guys say and do to women is to lure them into sex they wouldn't otherwise have lmao
>>83740886>women are bad people>but as men we also will lie and deceive you to get laidepic
>>83738581>break up because he lied>would have broken up if he were honestthe best blackpills are always dropped by foids
>>83740569Transgirl. I've just never been able to be a boy
>>83740891We wouldn't have dated if he were honest. I don't need to date or sleep with people that aren't attractive to me.
Rare W foid moment telling the troons to fuck off.
>>83740891Yeah, I don't think they realize they're explaining to everyone why lying is the best approach here.
Since this is a sissythread, I have some questions. Should I? I got a somewhat androgynous body. Don't want to take hrt, sound dangerous, plus don't even know if I can get them where I live. How does one deal with body hair, can't shave off that aftershave shadow. Also how to dress more fem, not like some troonela, but like more androgynous i guess.
>>83740202Most foids find trannies threatening because their existence implies they have no intrinsic value beyond their uterus, as anyone who is pretty enough could be considered a foid.You'll need a foid who is somehow mentally unwell and doesn't care or is very confident about her identity.
>>83740905>Who you're attracted to changes based on what they tell youWomen unironically think this way
>>83740922Most "foids" find trannies threatening because they are mentally ill men trying to force themselves in our places and skinwalk us with their cocks out. Disgusting freaks.
>>83740891The right one doesn't have to lie or conceal, he just Is The Right One My bf is 100% straight and doesn't watch porn. His fetishes are fucking my boobs, my ass, and my pussy. The wildest he gets is fucking me in changing rooms and outdoors he's just a redblooded alpha straight male he doesn't even care if I'm fully showered he'll pin me down and shove his nose between my legs like a rabid dog
>>83740923It does. You are attracted to a girl and want to marry her. You then find out she sucked 100 black cocks even though she told you she's a virgin. For most men, their level of attraction would immediately change through getting more information about who this person really is.Hope this helps!
>not telling the woman you love that you are a huge fag
>>83740771dangerously based nona
>>83740936I don't care about virginity, that shit's a zoomer meme where they larp as 1950s trad christians or something.
>>83740947YOU don't care because you're a creepy coomer, but the average man would absolutely care if the woman they want to marry gobbled up 100 black cocks and lied about it.
>>83740954The average man isn't quizzing his gf on all the times she had sex before.
>>83740937I don't think anyone understands that I'm still attracted to her and not to boys. I don't know why that's so hard to understand for others and why they have to push the worst possible intentions and perspectives. I feel like they are the unhealthy ones
>>83740933He's lying to you about a harmless fetish he knows you'll chimp out about, and is probably very scared of the day when you find out.
>>83740960Yes? They are? Sexual past and body count come up during the dating phase. And someone claiming to be a virgin and actually having been a degenerate BBC whore would make most men turned off.
>>83740923That's a completely normal thing for both genders you retarded troon.
>>83740971On the contrary I've brought up my very tame fetishes and he gets uncomfortable and his attempts to play into it always sound very fake, he's just a normal guy. He doesn't want to facefuck me over the edge of the bed he thinks it's weird and his attempt to play into my lactation kink made me feel embarrassed he clearly thinks it's cringe
>>83740917>sound dangerousThe actual dangers from someone who does it:- libido nuked in the first few months (comes back afterwards; add progesterone if you're really paranoid)- fertility levels drop (not to zero and not immediately like panicards claim)- some mood swings for a while (until the body adjusts)- A cup breasts in 96% of the cases, bigger in the rest (I'm in the 96% category)Uuuh... that's it.>don't even know if I can get them where I liveDiY exists. Unless you're in Turkmenistan, DPRK or Eritrea, you can.>How does one deal with body hair, can't shave off that aftershave shadowLaser.Did that long before I finally bit the bullet.>Also how to dress more femThis is where having a wife helped, lol.But generally just observe women your age around you if you lack inspiration.The hardest part for me was to find jeans that are clearly fem but still accommodate a male body. But once you find those, that's 50% of the problem.Go to any shopping mall and buy women's sweaters. Like these - https://www2.hm.com/en_us/women/products/cardigans-sweaters.htmlYou have to adjust for size, but it's very easy to find something that fits you.I like scarfs, so I wear those too quite routinely. But you do you.t. >>83740723
>>83740968Holy shit you are a dense autistic troon. Not faggot as in literally cock sucking, but as in unmasculine effeminate perverted weirdo failed man freak with abnormal fringe fetishes
>>83740933>doesn't watch pornlmao
>>83741001>the exclusively having sex with women kind of faggot
>>83741003He has seen it but he doesn't watch it because he has a girlfriend that has sex with him every single day and agrees with me that it is exploitation. I would rather be single forever than have a porn watching boyfriend or husband like in this picture
>>83741001I don't know, cruel people are just going to be cruel and they just need to be any sense to it so I just ignore you >>83741012Should be my girlfriend or if FTM my boyfriend.
>>83740991I'm not fucking around, this dude sounds like he's avoiding all the red flags. People who get uncomfortable with tame fetishes are often hiding deep shit, trying to look like saints. And they way you talk about sex makes me think he knows you despise all that so he's trying to preserve the relationship and avoid making waves.Admittedly, he is wiser than me and realizes what I needed a decade to learn: you don't tell your foid anything personal.
>>83741012>the chemically castrating himself with estrogen and jerking off in the mirror and fondling his bitchtits while wearing a skirt kind of faggot
>>83741043>And they way you talk about sex makes me think he knows you despise all that so he's trying to preserve the relationship and avoid making waves.I don't know if it's just the way you wrote this or because it's a male thinking process but it makes no sense to me. I don't "despise all that" about shit by all accounts I am the kinkier more open one
I just want love. I wish others weren't such assholes
>>83741051Yeah, what part of preferring tits would be gay? It'd be gayer if you were into keeping your torso flat and hairy.
>>83740723>>83740994so your libdo naturally returned after 4 months?did your penis get smaller?and can you go topless to pool and stuff in public or are your boobs too noticeable for that?
>>83741082>trannies actually believe that this is what straight men think and desireGrim.
>>83740974According to this eharmony survey from a couple years ago:>Most, 67 percent, of singles don't plan on asking their next partner how many people they slept with, and only 24 percent think the number actually matters.https://mashable.com/article/eharmony-dating-diaries-2024-body-countI only see virginity obsession among 4chan zoomers. If someone had talked about expecting virginity from women back when I was in school the way zoomers do now nobody would have any idea what they were saying. I didn't come across even one male classmate back then who expressed a desire to find a woman who was saving herself for marriage. It would sound like some outdated religious fundamentalist larp if someone did say that. One of my past gfs was a virgin but I wasn't trying to find one like that and I didn't think of it as anything special.
>>83740936crossdressing in your room sometimes =/= sucking 100 black cocks
>>83741104You're not really straight if you'd rather have your body look and feel more male. At best you're kind of bisexual. AGP chads are the true straight men.
>>83740917pluck hair where you have shadow, it hurts at beginning but it stops hurting so much after just some plucking
>>83741100>so your libdo naturally returned after 4 months?Basically, yes. But slightly different.It's no longer that explosive and turning me on requires different kind of actions from her.However, if I get randomly horny, it's no different than before hrt as a feeling. But how I'm best comfortable to act on it is slightly different. More receptive and more patient.>did your penis get smaller?I don't think so. Or if it did it's not noticeable.>poolWe usually go to nudist beach in the veeeeery rare moments when we go. Nobody seemed to care.I have never been to a public pool.>stuff in publicIt depends.Can I do a wet shirt competition? No.Can I go out without a bra? Most of the times, yes. In the winter 100% of the time.
>>83738577I'd gun him down right on the spot
>>83741113>"don't plan"So they didn't actually ask people who were in a long term relationship.>>83741121Who are you to decide that?
>>83738577break up, i hate agps
>>83741121it is the male equivalent of that, stop being a disgusting coomer
>>83741229>it is the male equivalent of thatit is not, stop being a retarded foid
>>83741219Another post confirming you're an idiot if you ever talk to your gf about crossdressing. Women want to be lied to. Don't make the mistake of trusting them with your fetishes.Pretend your fetish is choking women or something that appeals more to them like that instead.
>>83741168could you hrt tits pass for male gyno?when you cum is it all watery or is it still white?also whats your hrt regimen?
>>83741279>could you hrt tits pass for male gyno?At an extreme limit, maaaaybe.>when you cum is it all watery or is it still white?In between.>regimenOne shot every 7 days monotherapy. 4mg estradiol.
>all the seething transbians itt L O L
>>83741299do you do blood tests?and did hrt reduce your body hair?sorry for being annoying but i am seriously thinking about getting on hrt myself
>>83741322Aren't transbians the ones who have sex with each other instead of with women?Anyway I think guys who crossdress or maybe take hormones for fetish reasons aren't exactly the same as the ones who actually believe they're women.It's like comparing women who believe they're men with women who take testosterone recreationally to help with lifting.
>>83741323>do you do blood tests?Yes. Every 3 months first year. Then every 6 months the next two years. Now will do one in April (I think?) and then will move to once a year if nothing goes wrong.Doing blood tests often at first is a really good idea. Every body is different and it also depends on the objectives.In my case, moving the shots from every 5 days to every 7 days made things better. I was too high on E at trough.Also, I noticed that bica is unfriendly to my liver so I have to space out AAs. I could drop the AAs altogether but preventing the effects of T is more important for me than having stable-high E levels (although that sorted itself out with time anyway).You may have different needs depending on your objectives. But it's important to also be realistic with the objectives.>and did hrt reduce your body hair?I had laser almost 2yrs before starting. Not an issue 99% of the time.But the speed of growth (heh where laser couldn't get) has slowed down significantly.>getting on hrt myselfWhat's your objective?
>>83740791Don't obliterate a dude for being a freak, it's that simple, deception born of fear of losing everything because they are into a kink. Abolish the fear by not being a cunt = honesty.>>83740631Low jew trust in general, still, what a fiend. Does the subconscious truly exist if they only barrier is le societal pressure and personal acceptance? It seems like his own personal excuse to justify his personal pedophilia.
>>83741459>women who take testosterone recreationally to help with liftingOr women who take T to increase their libido. Those even get lauded in the mainstream press for their courage, independence, taking back their youth, yuo go gurrrl and all that jazz.Meanwhile I'm a predatory fag for being a married man in a stable relationship but who dresses femme-ish and takes estrogen.It's absurd how narrow the window of gender expression is for men.
>>83740917HRT is not dangerous. It's only "dangerous" in that it can permanently shrink your penis and make it harder to get erections, but that's only an issue if you don't want that.I tried HRT for a bit but I stopped because I actually like having a functional full-sized penis
>>83741552I like Freud because he just came up with any random ideas he could think of while high on cocaine without trying too hard to find real evidence for any of it.
>>83741552>Low jew trust in general,>>83740631>Him being a bad person i.e. a jew is besides the point.An example of being a bad person is being racist. It's pretty much the prototypical example of being a bad person.
>>83741575I think it's more the antiandrogens that are a risk for penis shrinking. If you just do monotherapy estradiol and continue using your dick daily it should stay the same size.Could also apply a bit of testosterone gel to the dick locally to make extra sure. Tranny porn stars do that sometimes, although more to strengthen erections than for the size benefits.
>>83741596People just double down if you try to argue against hating on jews. It's better just to concede jews are bad and continue with whatever other topic you want to discuss.Jews are their own worst enemies by putting way too much effort into defending against jew hate. When a hispanic guy is called a spic he will usually just agree and continue having the conversation. Jews should be more like that.
>>83741575>and make it harder to get erectionsHarder compared to what?Compared to when I was 15, yes, it is harder to get erections. But I'm also 35 lol. But compared to when I was 32 (just before starting), I wouldn't say it's markedly harder.Though yes, the nuking of libido in the first few months can be weird to navigate.>shrink your penisThis one is weird. I've seen stuff from horror stories (like losing 50% of the size) to no change at all. I'm in the "no change" or minimal change. Would be great if we had some studies on this.I didn't measure my dick but it doesn't seem to have shrunk. Wife says it didn't. So idk.>for a bitWhat does that mean? And what dosages?Too much or too little makes a huge difference. Also sublingual or shots? Ig why people are afraid of shots, but it's really the best. Especially for those who don't have "passing" brainworms or crazy ideas haha
>>83741615>I think it's more the antiandrogens that are a risk for penis shrinkingInteresting theory. I have no idea one way or the other if it's true. Also what kind of antiandrogen?Bica for instance for sure doesn't shrink the dick because there's plenty of studies on it as it's a generic drug for various prostate conditions (most known being prostate cancer). But have no idea about others.For the record: I did take bica and still do, but more spaced out because of liver side effects.>Could also apply a bit of testosterone gel to the dick locally to make extra sureNever had to do that yet. But I suppose I'll have to, at some point.>t. >>83741629
I hope my gf introduces me to a stud to show me the error of my ways by fucking me into a girl
>>83741043>this dude sounds like he's avoiding all the red flagsnta (I'm >>83740723 )It seems that taking estrogen as a dude is some sort of a cardinal sin.It's all so tiresome. Women take T to up their libido and they get lauded for it.Women "crossdress" basically every single day and that's fine. But suddenly I'm a rapist evil monster fag for being in a straight marriage and doing an hrt regimen to get to a type of looks that I actually like and, heaven forbid, wear a bellow-the-knee skirt from time to time.Ultimately, guys should just say "fuck it" and refuse to take the background noise seriously. Wanna try? Do it. Don't wanna try? Then don't. You tried and you didn't like it? Also cool.So much mental energy is consumed over what's ultimately just another chemical, that isn't even that dangerous compared to the fucked up shit that regular people pump into them for a lifetime. Meh.
>>83738577Yeah, uhhh... does anyone have sauce on that pic?
>>83738581Liberal white women fuck less trannies than maga menOh but apparently they're the good side
>>83741547>What's your objective?femboy looks i think, i want to look feminine enough to look good while cosplaying female characters for example while not looking so feminine that people in real life notice drastic changes. picrel is my body goal, small hrt titties included. i am thankfully already cute in face (i kinda have babyface with short midface) and my body is curvy and somewhat feminine with decent ass despite me being 6ft tall.how passable is your face?
>>83738581Geg this made the transbians' clitties leak.
>>83741459>Aren't transbians the ones who have sex with each other instead of with women?No? they're straight mentally ill men with agp, maybe they fuck eachother because most women don't want to date those freaks.>Anyway I think guys who crossdress or maybe take hormones for fetish reasons aren't exactly the same as the ones who actually believe they're womenok? what does that hat have to do with what I said? a transvestite is still a tranny, >It's like comparing women who believe they're men with women who take testosterone recreationally to help with lifting.no, it's not >>83741574ywnbaw
>>83741852>how passable is your face?It has gotten more passable with time. I didn't expect that and thought that trannies are exaggerating in order to avoid disclosing they had ffs.At 5'8'' I'm not super duper tall for a woman but also not a manlet (by my country's standards). As my face got more passable, confusion arises more when I girlmode. I get gendered female about 50-60% of the time. More if I apply make-up.The amount of "malefailing" has increased a lot in the last year even when I don't try. Like even in a hoodie I sometimes get addressed in the feminine until I open my mouth. It doesn't bother me at all, but you gotta be realistic. A cute feminine guy (especially if older) IS very rare anywhere except portions of Asia.>not looking so feminine that people in real life notice drastic changesymmv on this one. People who haven't seen me since before I started do notice a drastic change. Because people do notice when you "age in reverse" lol. I just don't tell them. I babble something about skincare and that's it.But again: The longer you're on it, especially if you have some genetic luck (like you sound you do, and like I do), the more likely it is for people to notice. Younger-looking feminine guys are really rare.In my experience, people usually compliment if they don't know. They're fascinated. Just don't tell 'em you're on E. Nobody other than your spouse/gf (if you have one) has to know.Btw, not telling her is also not an option. Your smell changes in under a month. She will notice.>picrel is my body goalyeah, that looks realistic. My tits are a tad bit bigger than that (say 5-7% bigger?) and I have no piercings.Ofc, hrt isn't magic. You still need to take care of your body. Don't get fat, get laser, skincare routine, etc.
>>83741863This shit is genuinely scary as fuck. My best friend dated a "Chad" (worked as a model, fit, conservative, masculine) and she found several years into the relationships that he was desperate to be a SISSY and had tons of porn and websites saved where he self-inserted as a sissy tranny slut. Like there were no signs at all on the surface.I made sure to really go deep with my boyfriend about all sexual preferences, fetishes and what-not very early in our relationship. I even dressed him up in some girly stuff at first just to push the limits, but he never cared for it. Just an actual straight man who likes pussy and has no weird tranny fantasies. Shocking to say the least.
>>83741980>worked as a modelThat was her OBVIOUS warning sign btw. That both of you don't see it is kind of suspect...anyways yes porn is way worse than you would suspect. the people pushing porn are also not great.
>>83742005Wasn't a warning sign. It wasn't "faggy" or anything. Just like lower-tier fitness model jobs that were highlighting his fitness I guess. He wasn't painting his nails or walking in heels.
>>83741980I had a gf who asked me to dress up as a girl and I turned down her suggestion.Also dressing up as a girl is a major secret fetish of mine.
>>83741980>This shit is genuinely scary as fuckWell, not scarrier than how it is for us when we learn the fucked up shit foids are into.We would all be better off if we dropped the hypocrisy and admit that a lot more women (indeed the majority) have rape fantasies and are into choking. And a significant minority are into various forms of BDSM.But the thing is that for as long as men's "acceptable" range of gender and sexual expression is too narrow than where reality is, you will always have repression and surprises.>Like there were no signs at all on the surfaceWell, ofc! Because it's never socially permitted to discuss it.Women can discuss their rape fantasies out in the open and nobody bats an eyelid. But heaven forbid a dude is bisexual.For all the "acceptance", "tolerance" and all that jazz of the supposedly "modern and enlightened" west, in reality nearly nothing changed for the better for men. If anything, the standards for men are even more repressive today than 100-150 years ago.
>>83742028He didn't turn me down. He went along with what I had in mind and I presented myself as very open-minded, which was somewhat true back then. Also I'm a fujo. It didn't arouse him though nor did he show any interest to do this himself, never asked or showed curiosity. Sure people can lie but to perfectly lie for many years is unlikely and almost evil.
>>83741971do you maybe know what hrt regimen should i have if i wanted that body?
>>83742038There's no problem with ""rape"" fantasies as it follows the natural order of women and men. Men are stronger and sexually dominant most of the time, women like to be ravaged. It's heterosexual and monogamous.Sissy and tranny shit is almost always bisexual (the sissy liking dick, shemales, traps) and pushes the man more into the female realm with there also being a real danger of him trooning out eventually.
>>83742028yeah, lol.>>83741980 really has no theory of mind for men. Like, at all.Trying to trigger my fetish when I know where it ends is just not going to work.The excessively repressive standards for men in terms of gender expression have made men really damn good at repressing and keeping things secret. Shocking, I know.
>>83742023>Wasn't a warning sign.ok well maybe if you're stupid. guys who MODEL ANYTHING, no matter how normie it is, are at least bisexual.Modelling is female behavior. Just think about it: what does a model do but spend all their time looking at themselves, consider ways to look better in the next shoot, etc. and then you're surprised he gets into female clothing and whatever. LOL so obvious
>>83742039I think it's a lot more evil to care about a guy being into that than it is evil to correctly realize you're supposed to hide that stuff because a lot of women have irrational feelings about it.
>>83742057Massive cope. If you dated a fujo who seemed open-minded and teased you and put you into cute shit you'd get turned on or let something slip after enough time. You're not some sociopathic anime villain with the perfect defense.>>83742063How is it evil? No one is entitled to someone's love or sex. Stop lying.
so according to the thread and men saying they just lie and hide it i have to be worried my future bf is an agp troon or sissy and simply wont tell until he has locked me down?
>>83742075>If you dated a fujodating a fujo is by definition different than dating a straight girl
>>83742078Why do you think they used to ban gay shit?
I would kill him, AGPs are disgusting
>>83742095are fujos also disgusting? should they be killed?
>>83742109No because 2d husbandos are amazing and pure
>>83742075>No one is entitled to someone's love or sex.No one is entitled to know about someone else's fetishes either. Obviously when a lot of women have irrational reactions against guys jerking off in women's clothes that's going to lead to those guys keeping it a secret.
>>83742078If he's smart he won't tell you so he can fuck you instead of you getting upset over nothing and not letting him fuck you.So yeah, he probably won't tell you unless he's really naive.
>>83742125bro come on it's not irrational for a woman to want to know if her potential husband might be secretly on the down low.if you're a faggot, where's the PRIDE you idiots love so much?
>>83742125When jorking it in women's clothes is a crime only criminals will jork it in women's clothes
>>83742125If you aren't honest to the person you love then you're a selfish rapist faggot.
>>83742045No. But the way to find out (especially since you don't want to play tranny) is as follows:1. Get a blood test and see where you stand. Every single body is different. If your T levels are high, then most definitely you need to add an antiandrogen at least at first. Testosterone levels for adult men range from 300 to 1,000 ng/dL or even higher. If you're above ~500, you should add an antiandrogen for quicker results (also, better to take the AA at first so you go through both low-libido periods at once - thus shortening the overall downtime, if you care about htat).Since you don't want to play tranny, you don't have to necessarily lower your T to female levels (15 to 70 ng/dL) but in my experience it is better to do so. Still, I know a younger guy (he's 29 now I think) who keeps it around 150 (half the minimum for normal man) and there doesn't seem to make a huge difference. But again, every body is different.Meanwhile, you don't have to keep E to 400pg/mL (normal premenopausal female). You can go higher or lower depending on how you're feeling. If you get mood swings, aim lower. I usually keep it at ~350.2. Then start with lower dosages and re-evaluate every month or three months.It also does depend which drugs you can access. In the US you have a lot of informed consent clinics. If you can access one of those, then do that. Their drugs are far higher quality than the DiY stuff available on the Internet. Not saying DiY is bad (I am on it) but it has its own inconveniences.If you go injectable, start with 2mg every 5 days. See how it goes with a blood test in a month.Also, do not take spironolactone. Just trust me on that, lol.If you go via some official route, a lot of doctors still recommend that one. But it has way too many side effects and it's not worth it.
>>83742140Why are you talking about gay stuff?Masturbating to lesbian porn is pretty different from getting fucked in the ass by a man.
>>83742145If you reject men purely because they're aroused by the thought of being slutty lesbos then you're a selfish rapist faggot.
>>83742148>Why are you talking about gay stuff?BECAUSE THIS SHIT IS GAY, YOU STUPID FAGGOT>>83742125>Obviously when a lot of women have irrational reactions against guys jerking off in women's clothes
>>83742075I live in the real world. I don't date anime archetypes.You are far crazier than you think. You're closer to trannies in your delusions of grandeur.And I'm an estrogenized dude. I can smell your level of crazy.
>>83742158Reject men for having absolutely degenerate, porn-brained, non-heterosexual tranny thoughts? Completely valid. And it's 100% honest.
>>83742163It literally is not gay at all to exclusively fuck women and have a fetish for wearing women's clothes. That's arguably the least gay config any guy could have for his overall sexual psyche.
>>83742178pure copiumthe most pure form of distilled faggot copium you've ever seen, in fact.
>>83742175That's fine. Women will keep doing that and men will keep hiding it.
>>83742186In what possible way is only ever having sex and masturbating to women gay? That doesn't make any sense at all. I think you just want it to be gay for some reason.
>>83742187and you will keep being an obese virgin in ugly panties masturbating alone in your basement. such is life
>>83742206I lost my virginity when I was 16 thoughever. It's not particularly hard to not talk about crossdressing to your girlfriends and one night stands.
>>83742201>>83742213You guys need to realize that nobody hates men more than women. Yes, all women.If it's not potential bisexuality, then it's something else. They always find a reason.The path forward is to not give a shit.
Chad here. I just tell girls I like to crossdress and they're always ok with it. I've got that androgynous pretty boy look though and kinda move like a girl so I think they kinda suspect it anyways. I've even had girls at the bar ask to crossdress me. girls be crazy
>>83742147how do you do blood tests? do you send your sample online?
>>83742247>Chad hereLmao come on bro. You are a troon.
>>83742095Based. They are vile.
>>83742262Girls approach me all the time. Deal with it kiddo!
>>83742247Yes only Chad can look masculine in a dress
>>83742262Chads becoming troons is pretty common.
>>83742279Still doesn't make you gooner a chad.
>>83742301Chads can be gooners too.
>>83742288Yes. Girls into this sort of thing always want a mix of masculine and feminine features, but they love that I'm 6'2" and taller in heels.>>83742301whatever helps you sleep at night!
>>83741980>>83742039>is a self-admitted fujo>had the idea to dress up her bf in women's clothes>b-but I'm totally glad my bf doesn't like cross dressing, that would be so degenerateDoesn't sound schizophrenic at all.
>>83742251Hell no.There's walk-in private clinics everywhere here who take samples for all sorts of tests. They ask what you need it for but you can simply lie or refuse to answer and just ask to be given the results just to you. They don't give af. As long as you pay, all good.I pay around $35 every time I need to do a test for this. I'll see if it has gotten more expensive with the new year (taxes have increased so I expect price hikes). Of course, I don't girlmode when I go to the clinic, lol. But they probably know. The nurse certainly always suspects because when they grab my arm they always remark just how soft my skin is and ask about my care routine. I always have to come up with some excuse, lol.I don't trust the online ones at all. The likelihood of the sample to end up damaged is much higher than prelevation on site.Hormone tests are the simplest shit. It doesn't matter where you live. It shouldn't be complicated to access it.
>>83742318A lot of trannies and guys with AGP are taller than average.I think people have speculated they have a weaker puberty so their bones don't fuse as early and they get the extra height in.I guess women could exclusively date manlets to avoid secret trannies, but I doubt they'll adopt that strategy.
>>83742292Middle is peak
Who would have thought that the foid worshiping simp board is full of disgusting subhuman transbian freaks. I totally expected that simps who think about 24/7 are well adjusted normal straight men and not cross-dressing effeminate sissies.
>>83742312The gymbro to tranny pipeline is very real.>t. ex-gymbro
>>83742329oh ok. can nurses see your results? i feel like it would be awkward if they see that you have female levels as a guy
>>83742342Makes sense. Roiding and trooning are basically the same thing, just with different hormones.
One more chad tranny pic
>>837423326'2 is not tall, it's average in white countries. Trannies and other cross dressing perverted losers are not tall. They are always either manlets or average.
>>83742356>oh ok. can nurses see your results?That depends on your country's policies.I'm in the European Union so the answer is no. Medical data belongs exclusively to me. I can choose to hide it even from my doctor in a life-and-death situation.Also, it's not nurses that prelevate from you that run the tests. It's lab docs somewhere down the foodchain.>it would be awkward if they see that you have female levels as a guyYes, I had once a lab technician call me to confirm my name and my order. I confirmed and then asked why and the convo was funny:>you're either a body modder or you have a serious disease>...?>you're definitely not trans because you're not bothered by Mr. Anon but I want to make sure I didn't mess up the results>...?>Your E levels are better than my wive'sWe both burst into laughter and that was it. We later on became acquainted through an unrelated activity.
>>83742332>I think people have speculated they have a weaker puberty so their bones don't fuse as early and they get the extra height in.I could believe that for sure. I hit 6'2" in eighth grade and stopped growing. I was a horny kid though so idk? but even my earliest fantasies were very femdom centric, which also makes me wonder if something wasn't quite right, hormones were fucked up or I have more female hormones at birth or somewhere along the way idk really. I legit also move like an awkward girl: best way I can describe is imagine Taylor Swift in a male body
>>83742387Even in the Netherlands the average male height is only 6' and they're the tallest in the world.Most white countries are around 5'9 or 5'10 average.Also inb4 zoomers are taller, Gen X is actually the tallest living generation, then millennials, then zoomers, then boomers.
>>83742395i see, i am from serbia so i gotta look into my countries policies regarding medical data
>>83742358Pretty much. Although this one had BA. No way you get that big boobs from hrt alone. Or maybe got lucky.>>83742386I look very close to the one on the right, but I never looked like the one on the left lul.>t. >>83740596
>>83742414>Even in the Netherlands the average male height is only 6' and they're the tallest in the world.Ok now subtract all the millions of brown migrant midgets dragging down the national average for men
>>83742428that would apply in every other White country too so it doesn't change much. Just look at White male height and bam
>>83742292>Wins as a man and womanGod I hate Chad!
>>83742416I'm not very fluent in Serbian but IIRC Srbija has adopted the EU standard for medical data. Sure, you don't have GDPR per se, but patients' rights are similar.Also, you guys have a tranny clinic outright in Beograd. Surely there has to be some privacy guardrails otherwise the clinic wouldn't have survived.Just off of a google search - https://www.beo-lab.rs/analiza/hormonski-panel-za-zene-prosireni/These guys seem to have what you need.Ignore the "for women" part. If you pay they'll do it for you too. Besides, hormonal tests are recommended for men too (just not as often, generally).
>>83742386was this guy a gymbro? seems like more of just your pretty boy who was probably bullied for being girly.>>83742358>>83742292My opinion on gymbros trooning is that guys who spend time on their looks (getting shredded) will naturally gravitate towards more feminine things afterwards because that's the only next step they can take.>well I got shredded, but I'm such a narcissist I better see if I can conquer being a tranny.
>>83742428The native born dutch male average height is 184 cm i.e. 6'
>>83742470native born is probably still including seething brownoids though due to how fucking gay europe is. oh of course ahmed is just as dutch as pieter
>>83742459i am not from belgrade but from some small city. i have a private blood clinic just on on my street so i guess i could go there
>>83742398>I legit also move like an awkward girlCute.So do I, haha. It's why trannies hate me. I girlmode better than them without training.I'm just not tall though. Right in the median height for 30-something men of my country.t. >>83740596
>>83742480>i have a private blood clinic just on on my street so i guess i could go thereYep. 99% sure that will work out.All of this so-called "ambulatory medicine" that is now overwhelmingly private is generally no-questions-asked allover Europe (EU or not).Worst case scenario they may ask for your "family doctor" and you can simply lie or do as I do: "I want the results. I'll take them to a specialist for interpretation." (well, now I don't have to say this anymore, but in the first year when I'd do them often, that's how I avoided their inquiring questions)
>>83741596Where do you think you are you fucking mongoloid?>>83741587Fair ngl.
>>83742494>Cute.>So do I, haha. It's why trannies hate me. I girlmode better than them without training.I have noticed that trannies are very very cold to me when I'm out dressed up. It's rare to run across them but the two I did were very rude. I'm not even trying to pass either, like I said girls don't generally want that they like the masc/feminine fusion in my experience. I don't want to do hormones though. I'm sure I'll eventually marry a girl and at some point I won't be cute anymore and we'll just move on to the next stage of life.
>>83742814>I don't want to do hormones though. I'm sure I'll eventually marry a girl and at some point I won't be cute anymoreFair enough. I believed that too.Then I married. And then did hrt haha.>I'm not even trying to pass eitherYup, same experience here. Even when I don't try it works out. And it was working out quite often even at age 30 without hrt. Now it works even better with hrt.>and we'll just move on to the next stage of lifeGood luck, anon.Though if you have some form of agp, the next stage of life still includes it. This shit never goes away. For better and for worse. You will always need a way to deal with it.
>>83738577I'd dump that hoe slut faggot
>>83740216Only men with the mindset of taking what they can get would date a tranny so i believe you
>>83740693I look like this and say this apart from cutting off my cock
>>83740791>i cant believe he raped me by wearing a green shirt today when he said he was going to wear a blue one
