>>83759505
What really annoys me is when normies tell me to stop treating women as "prizes to be won" but refuse to tell women to stop acting like prizes.

>>83759512
Foids be like
>Stop treating women as prizes to be won!
>NOOOOO WHY ARE YOU EXPECTING ME TO BRING ANYTHING TO THE TABLE, I WANT TO BE THE PRIZE!

i actually do find crotcheting pretty cool and it's an attractive hobby for a woman
this has never helped me bag one

>>83759505
>Crocheting
I'm not trying to bag 80-year-olds or androgynous leftists.

>>83759505
moids literally acted this way for millenia. if you didn't play along with their psychotic way of life you would be beaten, raped, killed, burned

but it's only bad if its your turn eh?

>>83759613
That never happened. Radfems making shit up to justify their insanity as always

>>83759613
Trooncase detected, opinion discarded.

>>83759505
>"You must think women are cool"
>Treat women like male friends you think are cool
>They lose their shit

>>83759635
Women don't like when a guy treats them the same as his male friends. They think they deserve special treatment because of the virtue of having tits and a vagina.

>>83759505
crocheting is cool. What's not cool is netflix and social media and still being more desirable than a normal dude with physical hobbies

>>83759624
>>83759634
embarassing. deep down inside you know I'm right

>>83759654
Which is pretty crazy because you already treat friends and acquaintances better than strangers so they already get better treatment, they just demand it to be even more unique

>>83759687
Okay, give me one example of an instance where a woman was beaten, raped, or killed for not playing along with a man's way of life. Provide multiple peer-reviewed sources.

>>83759505
"Dating" advice is laughable, it's asking "how can I be good at being a degenerate"? Dating is such a retarded concept, imagine your ancestors being told in the future people will larp as husband and wife, have a bunch of sex without ever having a kid, and after a short time frame break up do to someone's whims, and all the while never having married, never having gone through the proper rituals to make union, never considering how your families will get along, no, it's all about the couple and their feelings. It's this exact concept which lead to homosexuality because if it's all about some superflous feelings what would it matter if it's another man and you're using his hole to masturbate instead of a woman's?

>>83759505
>Nothing ever goes both ways with foids.
Correct the thing is when we old guys tell you young fags this from decades of life experience you screech "reeeee noooo it can't be like this I HAVE to have my pure anime love!". Women aren't like that life is not like that relationships will never be like that. You're never going to get that. Male disposability and gender roles are hardwired in the brain from millions of years of evolution. Women use men to provide benefits and experiences to themselves. It will always be one-sided and transactional. Living in denial doesn't change anything.

>>83759505
lol no. Just be Chad. That's literally it. Like whatever lame shit she's into, don't like it, whatever. When you're Chad, she doesn't care. She wants you because you're Chad.
If you can't be Chad because you can't change your height, you can't change your penor, or genetics fucked your face, your options are golddiggers if you're rich, hamgalaxies, or single moms with 8 kids from 5 dads.

It's so hilarious watching women act like getting to exist in their presence is the ultimate reward that men should sacrifice everything for, but women shouldn't have to give up anything in a relationship.

>>83759761
Closet faggot post
>if it's all about how we feel how come everybody isn't gay huh? i'd love to plow some twink's tight and firm little ass but i won't, because it's not about my feelings. we have to do what's right

>>83760094
Well, it's just a fact that marriage being turned to being about "love", the rise of dating, and sexual liberation is what lead to the acceptance of lgbt. When marriages were about the alliance of families and producing progeny, homosexuality was seen as an affront to this, the idea of a homosexual marriage in historical context would be ridiculous. But when relationships turned into glorified masturbation and "love" that was a slippery slope towards lgbt acceptance. Furthermore, sexual liberation lead to such a thing as "sexual identity", when in the past there was no such thing, homosexuality was an act you commited, not an identity, we called it sodomy. It was an unnatural sexual indulgence, using another man's butt or mouth to sexually gratify yourself, but now it's an identity which fags feel prideful of. Of course it's not just homosexuality but a wide range of kinks and sexual quirks people developed as a result of this, which they attached to and made their identity, and expect their spouse to gratify. A spouse needs to be able to satisfy your kinks, have your same interests, etc. everything that really doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is the alliance of families, producing progeny, and sharing values that go beyond superflous interests and butterfly feelings which last a short time. Romance as well is a meme that didn't really exist except as extra-marital affairs.

>>83759654
>Women don't like when a guy treats them the same as his male friends
Says the guy without friends or a gf

>>83760291
Sorry bro courtly love wasn't real except for the 0.1%ers, the peasants were Fucking gross style just like rednecks today. Probably worse, can you imagine the low hygiene standards, uneducated, illiterate animalistic behavior that was going on in most of your mud farmer villages?

>>83759505
>the youths
>muh hard earned wisdom
>likes crocheting
is this faggot unironically 70 years old

>>83760372
nta, romance concepts are also that highly idealized love is le most important a la abelard and heloise.
At the end of the day, people still had the idea that marriage was for having children, nothing else.

>>83760389
Wouldn't surprise me, everything on that account seems like something a boomerlib would say

>>83760372
Where did I talk about courtly love? Courtly love is under the embrella of romance which I said was a meme that didn't exist, people married out of duty. Those peasants you were referring to would have shotgun marriages, without contraception they could not indefinitely fornicate without consequences, even disregarding the social pressures to refrain from it.

>>83759505
Do women actually believe this? I refuse to believe that. 99% of all foids are boring as shit, the value they bring is in a vagina

>>83760429
A woman will expect you to be the most interesting person in the world, but not have any hobbies, interests, or opinions that give her the ick, all while she has the personality of an old saltine.

Pro tip, if a woman says she "loves travel" or "wants someone to go on adventures with," it means she wants someone to pay for her next vacation.

>>83760499
Hey now, she probably has some super unique interests like food and hiking

>>83760543
She's also a gamer girl (her family owned a Wii when she was a kid)

This video is undefeated
https://youtu.be/c3JbJmXInOs

I'm not so hung up on her hobbies as much as I'm hung up on her understanding of relationships being one way. You have to serve her needs while yours aren't even considered. Men have figured this out and know she's no worth it so will just tell her what she wants to hear for a pump and dump.

What sane person thinks, "Oh boy I get to follow a crazy list of demands from a crazy person while they are abusive to me the whole time."

>>83759687
>>83759613
you know whats embarrassing? a radfem man hater deliberately coming to the male incel board for attention, despite the fact that you have your own female only image board

fucking pathetic, reveals everything about foids: attention is all they want

>>83759505
foids dont care if you care about their dumb shit
they only care if you are hot and have money
all this extra crap they say they want, only applies AFTER they already are fucking you cause you are tall, rich, and hot.

>>83759505
That's not what the tweet said.

>>83761634
It heavily implied it. I intuit that from the fact that this account is run by a snarky leftist meaning they're probably a feminist.

>>83759505
Do you guys think it's unreasonable for a person who has spent their entire youth and young adult years being rejected (and sometimes socially humiliated) by women to become someone who hates them? I think after so many years of chasing and having it blow up in your face, anything that was "cool" about women doesn't seem worth it. If it were worth attaining, trying to get it wouldn't come with so many negatives.

>>83761796
If 50% of the population hates you for seemingly no reason, it's perfectly natural to develop resentment.

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>>83759505
i do think a lot of womens hobbies are cool but it hasnt helped me get a girlfriend at any point.

i asked a femanon to review my /soc/ post once and she said that all the things i listed(cooking, cosplay, lolita/jfashion, makeup, traveling, etc) that i mentioned liking in a woman are just "pickme shit" and "gooner bait" and i felt kinda bad. like, even if you're fully supportive of a girl's interests she'll still reject you because it seems like you're fetishizing them. i hate it.

I remember seeing an anon on here complain about loneliness because women rejected him for his looks and ignored his personality. Some fembot came in and said something along the lines of "what do you have to offer that any other male suitor wouldn't?" Meanwhile, she never said what made her so unique or interesting that she should make such a demand.

>>83759505
Why cant people just admin that dating, as we all know it, is just incompatible with modern standards? Women are getting exactly what they want.

Women gladly get with men who don't share their interests or even respect them as people, but are chads, rather than settle for incels who do care about their interests and about them.

>>83762000
yeah I used to feel jealous and sad that I couldn't replace their shitty boyfriend but now I hate these women. They're trash and now whenever they try to talk to me about their issues I shut them off instantly

>>83761899
Even if you like a woman's hobbies there's still a person behind it who you might not be compatible with. That's life. Everyone is different no matter what they like. Women will hate you. Women will love you. But normalfags would rather believe that it's all under their control and that finding a girlfriend is surely about being normal and respecting women as hard as you can because women LOVE respect and will LOVE YOU back for respecting them and if you still can't find a girlfriend it's ALL YOUR FAULT >:(

Like whatever you like anon. There's no other way to live. Normalfags live a life they hate and cope through it by believing that their suffering makes them a better person. It doesn't!!!!!!! Because they're not suffering with a goal in mind. They're not suffering to achieve something better in the future. They're suffering because they think suffering is virtuous!!!!!!!!! It's fuckin' sad!!!!!!!!! and pointless!!!1!1!1

chad will mock her for having an old lady hobby and she'll just giggle and think it's so hot how chad speaks his mind

What annoys me is when women act like they're so unique and quirky for having hobbies and interests that 90% of the population enjoys.
>Hiking
>Travel
>Food
>Sitcoms
>Social media
>Dogs
>Arts and crafts
>Pop music
Go on literally any woman's dating app profile and I guarantee you'll see her mention one of these.

>>83762119
I don't think they're trying to look unique, I think they're just saying what they like

>>83762076
heehee, he is so honest, a no nonsense kind of guy, hes real, not like those fake nice guys who just want to get in your pants!!

>>83759505
Nah nigga you're wrong, MY DICK goes both ways into MY GIRL'S PUSSY and ASSHOLE, so yeah, that seems like manufactured gender war bullshit to me

I have a platonic female friend thats never going to give me an ounce of pussy. She likes to be praised and dishes out criticism but hates taking it. At one point i had enough and was going to call out a ton of shit about her and maybe make her feel bad, but held back in the end because id rather have some female attention than none. Now i just praise her and agree with everything she says. And ive come to accept this, i dont even really resent her. it's just how it is with girls. they get to be right or you get to alone. its the two choices for everyone that isnt chad.

>>83762438
You should kill her or something man

Yeah man, in my experience the majority of foids won't ever ask you a damn about yourself. It's always a one-sided interview. They only care to know about Chad.

>>83762339
>Manufactured gender war
Women could end the gender war at any time by choosing to act like rationally-thinking adults.

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I'm so tired of dealing with females.

If she's not willing to watch American Psycho or read Blood Meridian she's not worth your time.

>>83762438
>She likes to be praised and dishes out criticism but hates taking it.
Literally all women are like this

>>83761596
I've been saying this. It should be a fucking crime they have their own female-only r9k image board but this board gets shit up by their constant attention whoring and nothing can be done. Nothing is scared anymore, women will eventually invade any niche simply for attention.

>>83759505
I especially love it wgen subhuman foids and their pathetic simps pretend like foids are more than walking talking holes but the moment you criticize foids they will try to insult you by saying you don't get to stick your dick inside holes. Deep down they know they are useless parasites who have nothing else to offer.

>>83759505
I'd rather she do something like that instead of being addicted to SSRIs and wine. She could knit our child a hat so he and/or she doesn't freeze to death as most heat escapes from the head and he and/or she won't have hair early on.

>>83759505
>Asking advice on even how to get to the dating phase
>Retarded boomers and gen X dropping non-sequiters about shit that isn't even where people have gotten to as a obstacle/isn't the problem.

Many such cases.

>>83763120
They can't take real platonic dynamics and getting dressed down for failure, but they want to be equal. It's such an inane thing to watch unfold on the daily.

>>83759746
Just google women who died of domestic violence. Number one reason why pregnant women die in us because their moid partner
>>83760012
Moids are happier when they have a female partner but women are less happy if they are with a male partner. Men don't have much to offer so its unfair that woman would have to give up anything

>>83760429
You sound homosexual. Try dating men, it seems like you would enjoy them more

>>83764047
Try to improve yourself and become useful instead of just being a hole.

>>83764032
This doesn't differentiate between divorce-raped men and men who never married
>the group that got robbed of life earnings is sadder than the one that didn't!
whoa, insane

Women initiate 55% of physical domestic abuse. lol lmao and fuck pregnant women, it's just a clump of cells, according to: women. Trying to guilt trip people over miscarriage when you aborted 1.3 bln kids in like half a century, pfft

>>83761828
Men are vile sexual perverts and often violent. They have centuries long past of abusing women in many different ways. Its natural for women to be afraid and hate men. You only hate women cause they don't like you, its almost like these two things are not the same at all

>>83764032
Foids have nothing to offer besides making men miserable until they divorce them and lose half their shit to a useless parasite.

>>83764061
PS and that's disregarding the """"Sudden Infant Death Syndrome""""" which varies 1-100 by country and region, depending on how many kids get the pillow smother. My favorite was an article about how infants should be raised in the Hamptons (rich bitch 'hood), because SIDS occurs so rarely there vs elsewhere, just 15 minutes drive away. lmao women give themselves the right to murder infants even while anonymous drop off for adoption is legal and practiced. Poor ol women, boo hoo.

I'm not a super handsome guy, just okay. But I'm super fun-loving, interested, and confident. When I'm somewhere, everything centers around me after a short time.
When I notice that a woman is starting to take an interest in me, she no longer exists for me.
I really dislike women; just the thought of having to put on some kind of show as a man disgusts me so much.
I'd rather have a good friendship with a man than sex with a woman and all the drama that goes with it. Life is too precious for that.

>>83762438
Wow you are one pathetic faggot. Better to just be by yourself instead of a cuck that pulls boyfriend duty while Chad fucker her and leaves.

>>83764062
>men are bad
>woman are ok :)
Don't you ever get tired of posting the same paper-thin lies? Useless human shit-can.

>>83759505
Remember though, if you aren't Chad then being interested in her crocheting is actually just you being performative in order to get sex and you're a creepy incel weirdo. Not sure why anyone wastes their time making up with this worthless advice. If you're Chad, whatever you do is okay. If you aren't, then nothing is okay. This applies to literally any question about men's behavior. End of discussion.

>>83764059
I'm not interested of appealing to clear homosexuals. Find your bf and leave women alone, thanks

>>83764061
>Women initiate 55% of physical domestic abuse
Woman slapping your wrist and you murdering her is not the same haha
And killing pregant woman is a murder of a woman, are you stupid? Moid rage brain is taking over you

>>83764065
Yet men are happier and live longer when they are with a woman, opposite is true for women. Moids make our life hard and short.

>>83764077
>Sudden Infant Death Syndrome
Maybe read about it a bit more you silly man. This is not the diagnose if they can find a reason for babys death.

>>83764143
Its almost like its the truth. History teaches us that the nature of men is opressive and violent. All male dominated countries are hellholes

>>83764238
a yet another retarded ass myth. I'm nta, but your stupid is too stupid even for this board, nigger.

>>83764292
>I don't like it so it is not true!!!

Its proven by multiple studies, google it. Men bring no joy to a womans life, only misery.

>>83764247
They systemically try not finding it. That's why it's a thing, you dumb pos. Women get a pass for murder and infants aren't the only case for that.

>>83764344
>Its proven by multiple studies
You simply don't know how to read a study and how to work with data.
>Men bring no joy to a womans life, only misery.
don't give a shit. never will. you're retarded, you can't even analyze simple data properly and come to wrong conclusions time and again because of a whole list of reasons.
then you shit onto some dudes chess board and proclaim yourself a baseless victor with no foundation. there is no reason to treat a shitting pigeon like an intelligent being.

>>83764361
Haha, you are funny. They cannot find the reason for death, thats why its sids.

>>83764223
>And killing pregant woman is a murder of a woman
pregante! if it's just about the woman, why mention the "parasite", eh? It's a clumb-a-cell parasite blah blah, so it was a mercy kill, really.
>m-muh moid rage!/raging
lul Get slapped back to reality, you violent little retard

>>83764388
>Blablabla

Men suck and are the reason for all the misery to this world. Men ruined the world.

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>>83764401
TL;DR: delulu. into an asylum you go.

>>83764415
Men literally are the reason our planet is dead soon. I can build the house just fine :)

>>83762438
>At one point i had enough and was going to call out a ton of shit about her and maybe make her feel bad
she would have given you pussy if you did this btw

>>83764062
>>83764238
>>83764254
>>83764344
>>83764401
>>83764431
>Men are vile sexual perverts and often violent.
>Moids make our life hard and short.
>All male dominated countries are hellholes
>Men bring no joy to a womans life, only misery.
>Men suck and are the reason for all the misery to this world.
>Men literally are the reason our planet is dead soon.
please refrain from indulging in your degenerate rape fantasies online, i know you want reality to be like this but it's not going to happen

>>83759512
>refuse to tell women to stop acting like prizes.
their dads are supposed to do that

>>83764431
The only thing you can build successfully is irrational resentment towards people you don't know.

>>83759505
If you're CHAD she'll do the social chameleon bit and pretend to be into your stuff and even make an effort to do it performatively.

>>83759505
>no dating advice will work unless you think women are cool. you have to think her crocheting is genuinely neat
no you just have to be tall and handsome. what the fuck is this retard talking about.

>>83762537
I don't know man, y'all niggas act like this is the bane of modern existence when in reality, if you're getting ass-blasted by all these bitches who act like LITTLE KIDS, you might be a fucking faggot, just beat 'em and give them some good fucking too, that's how they do it in Israel, and I don't see no jew niggas bitching about hypothetical women who they wouldn't even fuck, nigga

>>83764344
>It's proven by multiple studies
Link them.

>>83765170
Just a standard bluepiller. Best to ignore him

>>83764047
>>83764214
How come foids always accuse a man for being gay if he dares to have any standards?

>>83759505
Talk to women about their interests like they are toddlers and they throw themselves at you after a while.
Assuming you are not totally clapped, its literally that easy.

>>83765704
Women always attack a man's masculinity when he doesn't worship her own sexual objectification since the biggest fans and promoters of female sexual objectification are women.

>>83765726
>ask girl who im trying to date what her interests are
>she literally says "i dont know"

>>83759635
>Treat women like male friends you think are cool
I do this, and have a pretty healthy mixed circle of friends with many girls. Its through them that I met my girlfriend (coworker of one of my friends) who is way above my looksmatch.
>They lose their shit
Never once has this happened in real life.

>>83765763
>Never once has this happened in my life. Therefore it is impossible to happen to anyone else because I'm a retarded solipsist.
FTFY

>>83765754
>she literally says "i dont know"
They are not all like that. You just tried to date a brainless NPC type shit.

>>83765780
>Never once has this happened in my life. Therefore it is impossible to happen to anyone else because I'm a retarded solipsist.
Skill issue on ur part lil bro

>>83765819
You not understanding words and your own behavior is definitely a skill issue indeed, 'lil bro'.

>>83759505
>You WILL NOT expect her to respect ANY of your own interests
Why not?

>>83762438
you should rape her some day.

>>83765763
>a pretty healthy mixed circle of friends
Genuinely, why? I hate "having friends" incredibly badly. People like me and everything but I'm a chronic invite decliner. Rather be alone than with other people in basically every situation. What do friendfags get out of it? Is it all just cope for not being able to get laid on the apps?

You don't have to get a shit about her interests as long as you have your own, you can simply co exist without being a drooling dependant mouthbreather you know that? Stop taking advice from literal who twitters because it gives you a fake reason to hate foids more due to your autism

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>>83760428
>>83760291
>>83759761
>>83759785
AN INESCAPABLE BLACK HOLE OF TRVTH FROM WHICH NO /FIT/FAG OR /SIG/FAG CAN ESCAPE
ALAS IT'S WASTED, HERE. YOU'RE STILL TALKING WITH IDEALISTS.
YOU'LL NEVER CONVINCE THESE RETARDS THEY NEED TO LEARN IT THEMSELVES

So much of modern dating discourse is built on the mistaken belief that romcoms are real life

>>83765903
>L + no maidens + skill issue
yikes, id neck myself if i was u lil bro

>>83766664
>I hate "having friends" incredibly badly
ngmi
Humans are social animals.

>>83767756
Made up cope, people only work together out of necessity. I mean, I have a job and everything. I function socially. But the idea of taking enjoyment in being around people fundamentally and wanting to spend your free time with them is bizarre.

>>83759505
I actually enjoy talking to women and there are plenty out there with cool interests. If you are part of a mixed-gender social group with female friends you will not have a hard time meeting women to date, because it turns out women tend to have female friends. Always amazed at other men who just hate women yet can't figure out why none want them.

t. 5'8 man w/ plenty of success

>>83759505
If she actually does crochet or something it's actually neat, most women just like watching reality TV trash and gossiping.

>>83768020
>plenty of success
post bodycount. in before copes

>>83768020
Dating is not success. Any man can date if he is willing to spend enough money. Casual sex is success.

Im so glad I got a chick that was more into anime than I was so I don't have to deal with this shit

>>83767756
>Humans are social animals.
It is true that sheep are much better off with a shepherd, but plenty of people have the IQ in triple digits.
Cooperation is only so useful as to achieve a common goal, like the basic survival in the harsh environment.
Some very clever asocial fuck has invented the money that frees us from the bullshit cooperation as long as a human can pay for what it needs or wants.

>>83759505
DO NOT LISTEN TO FOID ADVICE, unless she's an out of touch thirdie.

>>83768020
Many man aren't effeminate enough like you to be interested in the inane shit foids talk about.

Women think men only want sex because sex is all most women have to offer. Like, did you really expect anyone to be attracted to your milquetoast hobbies or your lack of personality?

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>>83759505
i will find her crocheting charming and useful, while she will find my innawoods and surplus/supply-gathering endearing and....maybe useful if (when!) things go to shit.

or i'll keep it pushing, i don't get intolerably lonesome easily. ain't gonna peacock or cuck neither one, just bee myself

>>83768167
that just sounds like GFE prostitute, but with less sex.

>>83768793
All male hobbies give women the ick. No matter how tolerant she seems, she'll eventually snap and start having a woman moment over your hobbies.

>>83769579
more like hobbies are irrelevant
>chad goes out hunting
primal provider archetype
>incel goes out hunting
likely mass shooter. but in any case they will get sick of chad's hobbies as well but it has nothing to do with WHAT he is doing, it's just a general hatred for anything that takes attention, time, or resources away from them. so just b urself on this point because it doesn't matter at all

>>83769733
Maybe at the start of a relationship that's true, but once you grow up and see the reality in many older people's lives, unless you're able to compete with the constant stream of stimulating gossip from female pornography known as social media (you can't) every man becomes the beta faggot in their eyes due to erosion and begins backbiting or just straight jumps to divorce
Theres a reason that boomer hate wife is a comic trend and that all older hobbies involve literally fleeing the premises

>>83769787
Yeah, there's a reason all these annoying wifeguys are young. They're still in the honeymoon phase.

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>>83770501
>marriage is bad because I'm not in one
Bet those grapes must be sour, huh?

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>>83771278
NTA but
>thinking being married as a man is a flex

>>83771300
It's the ultimate flex.

>>83771300
bruh if you're in your 30s and not in a dedicated relationship like engaged or married, you are a weirdo. social outcast type person

>still hits up with the serial killer that hates her

If you don't think women are cool, why do you want to date them? Go to >>>/lgbt/ with the other homosexuals

>>83759746
You don't need a peer to review it you dumb fuck you can review it yourself Jesus fucking christ. Why are you asking for all of this academic shit like you're the ultimate fagot from some land that we've never heard of, called fagotland, which is where you hail from... fagot

>>83771308
go ahead and give me the *hits pipe* on this one

>>83771440
>*hits pipe*
Just for you, Junior.

>>83759505
>Nothing ever goes both ways with foids.
Is it any different than an employer asking what you can do for them instead of saying what they can do for you ? you're not indispensable people are replaceable and you simply have to work hard to get what you want

>>83771312
>bruh if you're in your 30s and not gobbling the kiked society's glizzy, you are a weirdo. social outcast type person
ftfy

>>83759505
imagine being this fucking retarded. She's just saying that you actually have to like women as humans and not just as a sexual romantic fantasy

>>83771593
You can throw poop at me all you like, but that is how you are perceived. I'm just saying it like it is

>>83771638
i don't care about the perception of bottom feeders that actively sustain and feed into a system that viciously hates them

>>83771641
This. Why should I fucking care what retards who dont want to solve systemic issues think?

>>83771641
>>83771651
>Why should I fucking care
Because it affects you. It affects how you are treated by people, your odds of getting jobs, how your family views you etc. Just because you dislike the system doesn't mean that you live beyond it.
I could mention that it's also nice to be with someone you love, but that doesn't seem to concern you very much so we can leave that part out.

>>83771657
>Love
>Entering the equation when women are involved
You're a funny guy

>>83761900
Because their smelly vaginas is the only thing that makes them valuable and they internalized this as "inherent value".

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>>83771657
>just bend your ass over to please people's ridiculous demands
>just bend your ass over to employers and accept the ridiculously low paychecks they give you
>just bend your ass over to your giganormie family because ??????
notice how pessimistic my perception is compared to yours. now why is that? hmm it's almost like you were born and raised in good conditions that predisposed you to being biased towards the system, whereas i was born and raised in bad conditions that predisposed me to being biased against the system. do i want to be surrounded by friends and family, with a lover and a stable well-paying job? absolutely. i don't know where you live in the world, but in most parts of the world all these things are impossible to obtain

>>83771687
You don't know how I was raised lol. But being optimistic is a skill that takes a lot of training to achieve. I see you haven't really started that journey yet, but I hope you will in time.
It's better to be happy than sad or angry.

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>>83771687
dude you can't do anything about it. now look at this picture

>>83771710
bitch i was the most optimistic motherfucker on the entire planet earth, but then proof after proof piled up that i was wrong so i had to come to the conclusion that i was just naive. i'm being pragmatic with my situation, nothing good has ever happened in my life despite trying, giving up is the best decision i made. also the argument from benefit is inherently fallacious. fucking piece of shit fake compassion bullshit, you sound like a christcuck

>>83771720
I'm not religious, but I also don't disparage people who are. Ultimately, you forge your own way, and being a negative nancy isn't going to get you very far.

>>83771745
>being a negative nancy isn't going to get you very far.
say that to any revolutionaries in history, god you are so vapid. why are you so happy rotting away in oceans of shit?

>guys who literally can't string a sentence together
>they belittle and mock their partner
>sometimes even physically abuse them
this just makes no sense. How is this still a thing in 2026? Women have had 3000 years to stop dating men like this.

I can't even imagine bullying someone emotionally that I'm supposed to be in love with, but I constantly hear about boyfriends doing insane shit like calling girls ugly and unloved.

>>83759505
There's only a handful a women I know who I think they're actually "cool" because I know them but you can't ask me to think some insipid random count are cool by default, especially when themselves will either have no qualms to assume the worst from me or won't even acknowledge my existence

>>83764032
>Moids are happier when they have a female partner but women are less happy if they are with a male partner. Men don't have much to offer so its unfair that woman would have to give up anything
Okay. Then we won't date you.

>>83771749
Most revolutionaries were relentlessly optimistic and driven.
It's better to be happy than sad or angry. You're not doing yourself any favors.

>>83764344
Correlation, not causation lmao.
I know the exact studies you're referencing and I know why they're false. Or rather, why the studies are true but your interpretation is false.
The men who are selected for relationships also happen to live longer; these men are more agreeable and blah blah. Men who are more agreeable face less stress in life, and etc. It's not the act of marriage that somehow extends their life.

>>83764344
>Men bring no joy to a womans life, only misery.
Which is why you deem fit to surround yourself with these "moids" you speak of and spend endless time arguing with us, so you can make yourself miserable?
If you hate us then simply leave. There's the door.
We won't miss you.