>God will never leave me nor forsake meWho can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.https://youtu.be/pSxegwiYLEQ?si=D5dl4YM0rZRc_CG2
>>83793569I'm pleased to see you using the bible, I will examine and respond to your cited verses >>>bible alone >>2 Thessalonians 2:15 "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."Despite you using this against primarily taking instruction from the bible, this doubtlessly supports the position, the epistles are part of the bible, the primary way we can hear the word of God is through the bible. You're using this to support "tradition", but it clearly refers to "biblical tradition". This verse is in support of biblical leadership. Furthermore our Lord said this:>Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.Now there's a difference between the doctrines of men, and the traditions of the bible. Do you therefore think that following non-biblical church instruction over the bible is the answer? >>2 Thessalonians 3:6"Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."Now you could argue:> "see? it says the tradition which he received of us!", but again, the primary way we know of the doings and the doctrines of the apostles is the bible, this is even clearer when one reads the next verse. >2 Thessalonians 3:7-8"For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:"Paul goes to describe his doing's, to the benefit of Christians not only then, but today also. Moving on. 1/?
>>83793644>>83789884>1 Thessalonians 2:13"For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe."This is in support of the bible. The apostles preached the old testament and the Gospel, the epistles they wrote are part of our current bible. The bible is the word of God. >Acts 15:28 I assume you either gave the wrong verse here, or are interpreting this as "you don't have to read the bible if you're a gentile Christian", which would be pretty ridiculous, given the plethora of verses to the contra (see pic related).>1 Timothy 3:14"But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth."Again, this verse seems pretty completely unrelated, unless you're trying to argue for a "universal church" (not in the sense of the body of Christ, but a formal overarching earthly institution). From the same book, here's a clear verse against this point. >1 Timothy 4:13"Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine."or from the same chapter as the verse you posted from >1 Timothy 3:6"Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil."It's common for a requirement to become a pastor being "have read the bible at least 10 times" to meet the "not a novice" requirement. >John 21:25"And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen."Again, this has no weight in your argument that "taking the most authority from the bible instead of manmade institutions is wrong", it's just saying Christ did more than was written in the Gospels. 2/?
>>83789884 >2 Timothy 2:2 "And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also."I assume you are referring to non-biblical Christian fables with this, obviously first hand accounts are different than non-biblical myth. "Which you have heard of me from many witnesses" loses its weight after 2 generations or so, but it can be applied in ones own time about contemporary Christians. >1 Timothy 1:4"Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do."
>>83793819>>83789884 I've noticed most of your arguments are weak, empty, or do not even apply at all. You seem like a victim of theology, or "verse by verse preaching" where the overall meaning is diluted and destroyed in favour of ones favoured interpretation (the Calvinist "back to the Greek" special ('intellectual assent' is a meme phrase that denotes this crowd)), because of this I'll be jumping straight to your misconceptions on salvation, which, you are damned if you get wrong. I'm being abrasive with my arguments, but, it's still important to be confident of your salvation.>>>Salvation (Faith alone and OSAS) >james 2:14-26 hitting me with the catholic and orthodox classic. James 2:10, plus Rahob being cited as an example destroys this interpretation, though being the polar opposite to Romans 10:9, 10:13, John 3:15 should have given this much away. Dead works (Works without faith) cannot save, but dead faith (A faith that produces no works) can. The killshot verse here is Romans 4:5>But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.Read this 3 more times if you feel the urge to argue against it. >Galatians 5:6 "For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love." It's impressive how you can misunderstand a chapter about how you won't be saved if you mix works with faith, here's Galatians 5:4 >Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.>matthew 25:31-46At the white throne, the saved are rewarded according to their works (only positive because Christ paid for their sin), and the unsaved are judged for their works, because they did not put their faith in Christ and receive salvation. This is evident in revelation chapter number 20, which describes how it will go down.
>>83793899>>83789884 I'll add that the righteous given in that section of Matthew aren't righteous because they did these works, they're righteous because they have the righteousness of Christ. I'll prove it here>Ephesians 2:8-9'For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:Not of works, lest any man should boast."Not saved by our own works >Isaiah 64:6 "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away."The righteousness we have of ourselves is worthless (because it's combined with sin) >Romans 3:10"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"There's noone who does good enough on their own to go to heaven.>Matthew 16:27 "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works."We're saved independent of our works, to the point that, saved people who do good works are given rewards in heaven, it's not a back payment for salvation or something like that. What Christ did on the cross wasn't paying the mortgage, it was the whole thing ("it is finished"). Now saved people, when they've put on the new man are more likely to do good works, but there's no guarantee, as we saw in Romans 4:5/ all the do nothing Christians today
>>83793973>>83789884>Hebrews 10:26 You've completely misunderstood how God deals with saved Christians, probably from misunderstanding salvation itself. Either way you should rectify it and get saved. Wherever you're hearing preaching from, you should stop listening to it, even just listening to the bible on audiobook would be better, start with John. I don't think you are saved. Anyway, God deals with Saved Christians, unsaved people, and nations differently. Nations and Saved Christians can't go to hell, so they'll be punished on this earth, this is Saul being tormented by a spirit, Samson getting his eyes poked out, Anaias and Saphira dying after lying to the apostles, etc. >Hebrews 12:7-8"If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons."Notice how I'm using the same books btw, this isn't intentional, the bible is just well written. Anyway we know from John 1:12 that "believe in Christ = salvation = son of God", we know that saved people do not go to hell >Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."And yes, before you try that trick, let's first notice the removal of baptism from the damnation requirement. So God will chastise his children (saved Christians) on this earth, but not the unsaved (I imagine "bastards" is a reference to hagar's son Ishmael, who is used elsewhere as a metaphor for unbelieving Israel). God will judge the unbelieving sinners at the White Throne Judgement, but sons and nations (which can't go to hell) are judged on this earth. That to say this, especially when you look at Hebrews 10:28, this verse is talking about a sore punishment on earth, (potentially even death like Anaias and Saphira) instead of damnation in hell.
Dude I looked up hot girl on Google and YouTube and literally theyre all like 6s. They have most likely been censoring depictions, imagine Google ai has like an algorithm that checks her face. Like actually its pretty fucking crazy how thorough they are, if you didnt know this was happening you should be fucking learning right now. They do that literally to help you sleep at night and to not ask for more. Because, they dont want you to see hot girl pictures as thats how men start like actually openly rebelling against the system probably. Thats one theory. Porn is like a joke dude they try to trick you into jacking up to obese negro girls getting slammed up her huge ass by like the ugliest fucking guys too. Totally somebody show me a hot girl picture.
If you guys are so knowledgeable about Christianity and the Bible why are you guys still posting here on 4chan? Shouldn't you have outgrown this cancerous place with all spiritual development?
>>83794104God actually writes most of 4chan, but makes it look like theyre real people writing it. He mostly writes about sex, because theyre the weakest men who are easiest for him to kill.
>>>83794056>>>83789884>Phillipians 2:12 One should indeed fear God, work out here means to exercise, not to figure out. Examine the previous and proceeding verses and it should be obvious. (Salvation -> Fear God and Work -> Works), (or Salvation -> Sanctification as others would put it).>Matthew 24:13"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."This is about surviving the great tribulation, so is Matthew 16:25, for Old Testament examples of this: Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego vs King Zedekiah who had his eyes put out and his family slaughtered. >John 15:6 If you're saved you're part of the vine in this case, Israel being "cast out" and the gentiles "graft in" is later used as a metaphor for saved gentiles becoming the Spiritual nation of Israel (God's chosen people), inheriting the blessings God made to Abraham through Christ (Galatians 3:16 is the key verse).I could go on, but it's pointless if you're not saved. Do get saved.
>>83794104I want robots to go to heaven, why else? Arguing about the bible is just an excuse to brush up on and commit doctrine to memory.
>>83794154Did u even read the book god. This guy is actually god. Heaven doesnt even sound cool, its described as a place where you can break into houses at night and rape anyone. But, everyones fucking ugly as shit they should be asking me for sex. They probably would be if you werent doing them yourself faggot.
>>83794138If you bothered to read that, even with the abrasive style you're probably sincere, if you're sincere, you'll probably get saved at some point. (Matthew 7:7-8)As a final point I'll mention the interpretation to repenting as denoting any relevance in salvation other than "admit/ realize you are a sinner in need of salvation" is completely annihilated by Romans 4:5, and the implication that repenting is works in Jonah 3:10.
>>83794167are you from /drugfeel/ anon? I don't understand your post.
