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First for Kokoron.

>>83808114
>type
Infp
>What's a hobby you used to love but dropped?
Warhammer 40k.
>What's something on your bucket list?
Nothing
>What's the most be-ta thing you've done for a girl/guy?
I let a girl complain about guys she was sleeping with.
>what's the worst advice you've gotten
Just be yourself
>What's the saddest "it's over" moment you've had
Girl I like ditched hanging out with me on a date to go sleep with a guy she complained she hated for weeks.
>Whats your go to form of doomerism (climate, fall of western civ, nuclear war, etc)
What?

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Here's what the pic says (Google translate).

>>83808149
>Pretty cute
Are you a female anon?
https://youtu.be/ZESfaEhd_LQ?si=GWC2UadLfXmz4ffQ

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>>83808228
No I'm an oji-san who likes magical girls and Jung, among other things.
What is even the connection between these two things? Heartcatch Precure, a season known for blatant Jungism, even has Persona-style "I'm a shadow, the TRUE SELF!" battles, among other things I mentioned like introvert + extravert protag duo.

>>83808114
>>type
ESFP-T
>>What's a hobby you used to love but dropped?
Competitive dancing.
>>What's something on your bucket list?
Skydiving.
>>What's the most be-ta thing you've done for a girl/guy?
Oh, I shamelessly threw myself at my ESFJ when I first met him.
>>what's the worst advice you've gotten
"You're wasting your time with YouTube; you'll never make any money from it."
>>What's the saddest "it's over" moment you've had
I don't think I've ever really had one. Not for anything serious.
>>Whats your go to form of doomerism (climate, fall of western civ, nuclear war, etc)
I definitely don't have one of those.

>>83808296
>Oh, I shamelessly threw myself at my ESFJ when I first met him.
Most specifically, I started wearing my hair in twin-tails because of a character in a children's book that he had a crush on.

https://youtu.be/dOSIZzcV2ks

what mbti is this guy?

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>>83808114
>>type
INTJ / IN(T) (to be confirmed...) 5w6 583 sx/sp VLEF
>>What's a hobby you used to love but dropped?
I never drop, I put on a hiatus.
>>What's something on your bucket list?
It's confidential.
>>What's the most be-ta thing you've done for a girl/guy?
Bit my friend after he had bitten me.
We're talking about Muv-Luv BETA right?

>>83807960
>Alright, but give me a very brief quote in specific that touches upon this point?
There's just too much stuff on semi-territorialized rhizomatic assemblages emerging around ontological "desires"...
Anyhow the best Schizoanalysis introduction possible is
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356625556_Boy_with_Machine_A_Deleuzoguattarian_Critique_of_Neon_Genesis_Evangelion
and there's A Thousand Plateaus audiobook out there and it's basically a less gay version of Anti-Oedipus.

>>83808141
>pic
>extravert thinker type is sexualization type
I only do sexualization ironically or for devil's advocate bargains...
>I really don't understand where you're getting that F from in IF(N)
Hmm, the undifferentiated distaste for "scientism" as I've done it, and I've done it not in an extraverted manner, even if I like to press for some harshness.
>"INFJ-A"
That's an EF(S).

>ITT
This is 4chan btw. Means less "friend simulator" and more "extracting the most out of the format" for me.

>Do you intend to do this in the thread (or online/4chan in general)?
>Or, can you tell you're doing it here, despite not intending it per se?
Depends on the task.
If I were doing it right now I'd be almost deliberately insufferable while yanking out research paper trails just to rip them apart dismissively for my own sensible conclusions on the matter.

>To me that sounds like you're describing intuition as introversion
Uhh... "Subjective" factor IS a poor label by Jung and everytime he describes introverts in chapter X of PT he talks of s.f. and archetypes interchangeably.

>>83808358
>I only do sexualization ironically or for devil's advocate bargains...
This is the most introverted intuition thing I have ever read in my life.

Anyways, will read tomorrow after I'm done shitposting about detective precures and sleeping.
The excitement is getting difficult to contain.

>>83808171
>Warhammer 40k.
Cool, what was your favorite faction?

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Reposting this old gem. Does it still hold up?

>>83808381
>Cool, what was your favorite faction
I liked chaos space marines what's your favorite?

>>83808573
>I liked chaos space marines what's your favorite?
I'm mainly familiar with the setting through RPGs; I've played Necromunda (Escher, Ratkin, and Enforcers) but never a real 40K game. That said, if I DID, it would probably be Dark Eldar or Tyranids.

>>83808611
>>83808573
plsy space marine 2 with me. il be titus

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PSYCHOLOGICAL TYPES re-notes & thoughts [pt. 1]

Psyche is a specific complex of biological adaptations. So are its functions, non-type functions, ego, complexes, personas, etc. I feel like this isn't emphasized enough, as it's typically seen as some "social" or "psychological" stuff. But, it's at least as deep as biological.

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Fantasia (aka transcendent function, I suppose) per Jung:
>is opposite to scientism
>"traditional" method of discovery
>unites the opposites
>is irrelevant to types' functions
>is mostly of the unconscious
>fantasies are of the repression into/of the unconscious
>in order to unite the opposites, [fantasia feeds the will]

[///]

The unconscious apparently can be seen as a "void" made from "negation of met opposites." I suppose negation is the opposite of union, in this sense.

[///]

One's unconscious is reliably seen only via the analysis of one's projections (no, "projection" isn't some gotcha moment despite what armchair pseudo-pop-psych says).

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PSYCHOLOGICAL TYPES re-notes & thoughts [pt. 2]

[...!!!]

Integration of shadow/unconscious complex generally means bringing it up to conscious and/via differentiating it.
Precisely speaking, as there's no guarantee anything is integrated forever and won't be repressed when you end up focusing on its opposite, it'd be at least of 4 stages at no specific order:
>creating an interface/home/handle/structure to hold and use it
>pulling it out from the unconscious
>getting it from fantasia union of opposites
>using it consciously, i.e. by ego's executive function

Psychological functions (P.F.) can be differentiated out of the unconscious at least temporarily.
P.F. follow the archetype complex rules: you can repress P.F., be possessed by P.F.
Technically, P.F. ARE archetype complexes, of the archetype of their principle of functioning.
ROUGHLY speaking, for example, it'd be SORT OF LIKE "thinking=Logos", "feeling=Eros."

Jung's individuation is instrumental individuation, where the fantasia is used to bring up a function complex best suited for the biological adaptations.
That is: all the circumambulation, individuation iterations, hero's journey cycles and so on are so "endless" because... it's quickdraw slapdash psychological engineering.

Actually you might be even re-integrating seemingly same functions on use of fantasia, but they might be completely different archetype complexes every time they're brought from the unconscious, even if they're always including following some archetype corresponding to what makes the complex the function it seems to be.

The core individuation of the Self as an archetype of the personal psyche is whatever you can afford to keep DESPITE it not being universally effective.
>...but how would you differentiate it from maladaption?
What's a maladaption and according to what it's such, tho?

Turbie is sad and it's my fault

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>>83808114
>type
INTP-T
>What's a hobby you used to love but dropped?
Gundam model kits. All the new shows haven't done anything for me (and I hate digital animation anyway).
>What's something on your bucket list?
Have sex again before I die (first time was my assigned BPD starter gf that some autists get).
>What's the most be-ta thing you've done for a girl/guy?
Simped for a girl that friendzoned me at work for literally years
>what's the worst advice you've gotten
"Just be yourself"; only works if "yourself" is likeable; so ironically most of the people who are autistic/schizo/etc. and are being told this, should not ever be told this
>What's the saddest "it's over" moment you've had
Realizing I have no good answer for this because it's been over too many times. Life just a constant barrage of 'em.
>Whats your go to form of doomerism (climate, fall of western civ, nuclear war, etc)
I think both the political right and political left in the US are being manipulated by the rich (not just jews) to keep them both focused on retarded racial/gender (identity politics) issues, because the Occupy movement spooked them and they realized they needed to drive a deeper wedge into the working class in America. If you cry about trannies or black people online, for or against, your brain has been poisoned.

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>>83807960
>Holy synchronicity.
I wonder what (he) meant by this?
>Huge mistake here.
Hmmm.. No? You've not rationalized the process of perception. Just merely rationalized what would be perceived.
It would be like me saying "if I open my eyes I'll see my monitor"
That doesn't give any insight to the process of perception. Just an acknowledgement of what's in front of my eyes.
Even if I were to intentionally open my eyes, or you were to intentionally cut yourself to have blood spilling out, the perception of that is still irrational and accidental.
>But the Thinking image is a real thing that objects truly have
That doesn't negate their irrationality. Also, the object doesn't have the image. Your psyche has the image. It was created in your psyche.
Sure, the object has qualities, but those qualities should not be confused with the image of the object in your own psyche. The object and your subjective interpretation of said object are two distinctly different things.
>were fully irrational
I didn't say it was entirely irrational. Nothing is entirely one thing. Just because objects exist and have definite qualities, doesn't mean they're not irrational, either.
>... but it has eyes.
It doesn't have eyes and it also cannot see the red.
>they will say red
Yes, the person viewing the picture will see red. But the camera does not. Red is something that is created in a psyche.
If you wanted to say the camera "knows" its red, sure. But "know" is a.... finnicky word to use there.

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I need a moid to cuddle. Someone give me one (no uggos).
>https://youtu.be/kPZRb4_G7sc?si=biiEnsVV8A6WiUwi
...
>type
ENTJ
>What's a hobby you used to love but dropped?
Painting, and poetry
>What's something on your bucket list?
Become awakened, enlightened, one with God/source etc.
>What's the most be-ta thing you've done for a girl/guy?
I did the daughter-daddy thing for an ex-BF (PUKE).
>what's the worst advice you've gotten
HS counselor tried to convince me I was "trans masculine" ftm.
>What's the saddest "it's over" moment you've had
Either I never give up or move on without a second though.
>Whats your go to form of doomerism (climate, fall of western civ, nuclear war, etc)
I look at things in a big picture sense so I don't see this as the end times just part of a cycle.

>>83808707
>space marine 2
I tried it because I enjoyed Darktide, but I just can't keep my head wrapped around all the combos and counters and stuff.

>>83808801
>Turbie is sad and it's my fault
What happened?

OH SO YOU CAN SILENTLY SPAWN CAMP EOT BUT YOU CAN'T RAMPANTLY POST CLOWN MEME TEXTPORN WITH ME FOR IT???? CURIOUS

>>83808872
>I need a moid to cuddle. Someone give me one (no uggos).
You can borrow mine. He's solidly average-looking but he's a great listener and an even better cuddler.
>I did the daughter-daddy thing for an ex-BF (PUKE).
Puke indeed. I did big sister / little sister with a female FWB but I've never been the slightest bit inclined to pretend that I'm related to my guy.

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>>83808767
>The core individuation of the Self as an archetype of the personal psyche is whatever you can afford to keep DESPITE it not being universally effective
Actually, that's not quite correct.
It's more of what was preferred to be kept despite the despites and so on.

>>83808114
>>what's the worst advice you've gotten
I'm glad my brain doesn't care to remember bad advice.
>>What's the saddest "it's over" moment you've had
It's confidential.
>>Whats your go to form of doomerism (climate, fall of western civ, nuclear war, etc)
...it's typological, obviously!

>>83808913
I've always gotten the feeling you want to talk more about age play stuff. Do not respond to this post I just wanted to say that.

>>83808872
>Someone give me one (no uggos).
Sorry I'm ugly. Only on the outside though.

>>83808913
>>83808872
>Incest fetish
I never understood the incest shit, especially the that fucking mommy thread, like what causes people to be like: "ooo I can't wait to fuck an imaginary underage sibling and create offspring with bad genes".

>>83808988
It's jewish mongrelization from the free mason's who rule the world.

>>83809180
>jews invented royalties
worshipping the Jewish people is done at >>>/pol/, chud

So did Turbie actually return or was it a guy with a different trip.
Cause the "diarygirls" that keep post are fake AF.

>>83808114
I say i'm Introverted Intuitive (thinking); my good friend from the other side of the garden suspects i might be Introverted Feeling (intuitive): Would any of you fine gentlemen like to assist in our consummation?
>What's something on your bucket list?
I've gotten it into my head to learn to ice skate real good. God knows if that'll go anywhere.
>What's the most be-ta thing you've done for a girl/guy?
Love confession over xbox live.
>what's the worst advice you've gotten
"Change schools", maybe. I'm sure there is worse i just can't recall. It's all water off a duck's back by now.
>What's the saddest "it's over" moment you've had
Perhaps when i went over to my friends house without warning him. He was sick and all but kicked me out. I tend to have a hard time recognizing when it's over, and when i do it tends to be more of a relief or panic rather than sadness. It only hits hard when you don't have anything come after, and you have to marinate in your mire of overness. I guess it get's harder as you get older.
>Whats your go to form of doomerism
It's all basically the same. You can't really pick out one thing.
>>83808358
>If I were doing it right now I'd be almost deliberately insufferable while yanking out research paper trails just to rip them apart dismissively for my own sensible conclusions on the matter
That rings a bell. I don't mean to labor the point, but that sounds more like extroverted intuition to me than extroverted sensation. "He seizes hold of new objects and new ways with eager intensity, sometimes with extraordinary enthusiasm, only to abandon them cold-bloodedly, without regard and apparently without remembrance, as soon as their range becomes clearly defined and a promise of any considerable future development no longer clings to them."
>the undifferentiated distaste for "scientism" as I've done it
Why IF instead of IT, is what i'm asking. Couldn't that be explained by a difference of attitude alone?

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>>83808358
>extravert thinker type
That passage is just on attitude. The point is that he describes the same man as both a Platonist and an supreme example of the Extrovert.
>the rest
https://pastebin.com/2tGU77MR

>>83808767
There's some big problems with this.
>and won't be repressed when you end up focusing on its opposite
Assuming one has taken the proper steps, it won't become repressed again. But, it will fall back into the unconscious.
But, if you have done what you're supposed to do, and built a proper relationship with the shadow, that has necessarily bridged the gap between repression and acceptance.
Repression is a symptom of disownment and negative judgement of the aspects of the shadow. The shadow withdrawals because of this judgement. Integration does not mean permanent presence in consciousness, it means the absence of hostile exclusion.
>to hold and use it
This wording right here is very psychologically dangerous. If you're looking at the shadow through an instrumental lens, you're almost certainly not doing the steps correctly.
You don't force it out of the unconscious, you ask it to meet you. You do not treat it as a tool to be manhandled. You request it to give you information. You build a relationship with it.
Not because you want something from it. Because you are it.
If you seek to dominant the unconscious, it will remain as such. Unconscious.

I am aware this *might* not be what you're intending to say, but it's definitely what it comes off as. It comes off as the ego trying to subordinate the shadow and make it their bitch. Like the ego can just drop a dredge into the depths of the psyche and pull out whatever it wants on a whim. Very unJungian (onionian)

>>83809553
>let me tell you what you really are saying

He assholes, what is your major in college? Or what is degree in?

https://youtu.be/07v7o4hO-4k

In this interview which function does it sound like Jensen Huang is describing most? Does the person he is describing remind you of anyone you know? If so what is that person like?

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A BPDemon is the only hope for an autist loose their virginity. We're do I find them?

What type is most likely to troon out?

>>83810009
>what is your major in college?
computer science (aka shit)
>>83810025
>In this interview which function does it sound like Jensen Huang is describing most?
100% Ni
Does the person he is describing remind you of anyone you know?
Basically he's describing Elon Musk.
If so what is that person like?
Well just look at the fucker.
>>83810042
>A BPDemon is the only hope for an autist loose their virginity. We're do I find them?
Deviantart, /r9k/, Discord, Twitter.
>>83810106
>What type is most likely to troon out?
INFP hands down, it's not even a question

I can't believe there are no reggies blog posting on the weekend in the middle of the night. Like they have fucking lives or something.
Were is that little fuckhead patchy and his same fagging ass, or that obvious homosexual couple TE and INFJ-A?

>>83810552
They're visiting their lovers and all having sex. At least they're not bragging about it.

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>>83810583
>They're visiting their lovers and all having sex
Obnxious tripfags are finding love while I have to be a khhv wage slave.

>>83810536
>INFP hands down, it's not even a question

I actually don't agree with this
I think INFP is more likely to just be normal gay/bi but be fine with their gender
To me INTP is the stereotypical trooner
Hard to say exactly why

>>83810552
>TE
is bi-curious and uses christianty as a coping mechanism to supress his homo urges.
>INFJ-A
is a low key degenerate who thinks of himself as morally superior and excused of his behavior because he has memorized knowledge of the esoteric without actual experince.
>Patchy
is a sperg bookworm stuck at the "it's all just symbolic representations of (insert mental thing)" phase of development.
>Mel
is a materialist, not the nigger flaunting way but the status seeker way. Even her esoteric knowledge is used for material ends.
>Turbie:
"Asexual" aka: chad only or I'm never touching anther guy sexual. Her desire to remain a child is subject for another rant.
>Diarygirl
BPD is written all over her, possibly even ASPD. She's probably great fun in bed, but terrible in all other ways.

>>83810613
>I think INFP is more likely to just be normal gay/bi but be fine with their gender
I usually don't agree with an anon, but now that I think about it, yeah they're more like shinji ikari type, they'll consider themselves straight but then get a crush on another boy for being nice to them.
>To me INTP is the stereotypical trooner
I get the same feeling now that I think about it. And I'm not just agreeing for no reason, the real "hi guyz imma real gurlz tee hee ^_-" on /biofem/ and whatever are INTPs, also half the touhou fans for some reason.

mmmm, diary girl love bites before she breaks your heart mmmmmm sexiest reg since lilac

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>>83810706
>sexiest reg since lilac
How is lilac the sexiest? Rxy talked about tying up and choking other foids and forcing them them eat her out.

>>83810613
I always got the impression that INTPs are more likely to be straight chuds.

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ESFP is the type most likely to do drag shows, crossdress and go to pride parades and so on.

>>83810723
90% of modern trannies are just chuds that defected to the hugbox side as "transbians." They still act the same in every regard.

>>83810738
>transbians
Is there nothing more disgusting? Lesbian dating apps are FLOODED with these repulsive cockroaches. And you can't avoid them because of woke "they're real women ok!" bullshit.

>>83808853
>synchronicity
Basically Jungism for "meaningful coincidence". In that case it's because we both threw around the word "accidental".

Anyway, let me address the point all at once because I believe you are operating on a very fundamental misunderstanding:
When Jung defined the functions as rational and irrational, he wasn't talking about their, um, biological roots, for a lack of a better term.
If that were the case, then all four would be just "irrational" factoids: we don't know exactly the mechanics of thought and feeling as much as we don't have complete knowledge of our perception(sensory, or extrasensory if you are into that, honestly I kinda think there's something to it).

What Jung was concerned with would be, roughly speaking, what belongs into what. The functions were defined a trillion times I'm sure I don't need to elaborate here.
His purpose is orientation and discrimination, he wants to be able to tell Thinkoid stuff apart from Feeloid stuff, that's it really.

With all of that said, I'd like to make a relevant observation.
It's only me, or INFJ-A and his "followers" have a problem with deriving meaning through context? Fixating on the words and "abstracting" them doesn't help your understanding at all, it's the best way to misunderstand everyone. Words have meaning only as much as the person who wishes to use them, what kind of ideas they are trying to communicate through 'em is what matters and that is to be derived both by literally reading/listening, but also making sure to connect it to the underlying point, and whatever contextual information is necessary. You have to seek some rapport with the person and thus his/her ideas, not just with the letters (holy extravertoid I know)

And I'm not talking about only reading Jung here, it's also about reading these posts.

>>83810723
I think it actually might be the chudiness that makes them transition in the end
I mean I can't help but notice the typical INTP chud type also tends to have an obsession with very perfect idol-esque doll-like waifus like typical gacha characters
They seem likely to have some repressed desires here
Maybe the resentment they're so known for is really coming from a repressed desire like this
Or maybe it's like they can't stand the idea of just being a normal gay person or something so they have to go all the way and become the opposite sex for it to feel normal
There's also a "mad scientist" sorta angle of experimenting on your own body
I dunno this is just my big NE speaking

>>83810764
Didn't realize how bad the modern lesbian has it.

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>>83810799
If you're an idolfag you're Si-groiding hard(with a side of feeling?, speaking purely from experience.
Your next stage(or previous in my case) is magical girl fagging, hope you are ready.

>>83810698
I'll never understand why there are some people who think there's zero girls online. My guess is either you got catfished and figured it's all guys or you are the type to never take risks and it's safer to assume there's no girls.

>>83810770
>what kind of ideas they are trying to communicate through 'em is what matters
Except concepts are just mental mimicry of 5-sense data that is not more substantial then language itself. The process of conceptializing is just combinations of internal visualizing and/or monologues. Explain how this is different then language.

>>83810876
It's not that I don't think there are no-girls-on-the-internets, it's that I think ANYONE who goes "girl"(trademark) type writting like:
>"uwu ^_^ im a sarmt gurlzz is on teh lins 4 intentet 2 talkz 2 peple s cazue im a gurlz"
AND won't post pics to confirm they're biofem, is 100% a tranny.

>>83810908
>AND won't post pics to confirm they're biofem, is 100% a tranny.
But why should they post pics to you? Tbh it sounds like you just want to trick people into doxing their face pics or pressuring someone into posting nudes.

>>83810720
why would lesbianism be attractive? The only way that would be sexy is if you tied up rxy and fucked her then left her tied up with a vibrator while you went to get lunch and came back for round 2 an hour or so later

>>83810812
>Si-groiding hard
But, Mel is entj and likes Magical girl stuff. So explain why you think it's only possible for Si people to like magical girl animws?

>>83810928
>The only way that would be sexy is if you tied up rxy and fucked her then left her tied up with a vibrator while you went to get lunch and came back for round 2 an hour or so later
That would be pretty hot. Rxy's the kind of bitch who'd like it too.

>>83810881
>Except concepts are just mental mimicry of 5-sense data that is not more substantial then language itself.
I think a part of me just died by reading this. If you don't feel you can think apart from sensory data, I diagnose you with terminal late-stage inferior thinking becauase this is blatant concretism of thought, it's not even Sensation, because Sensation types aren't controlled by their sense impressions, they control them, they can think apart from them if they are willing to entertain purely theoretical concepts... proof? One of my closest Se-groid acquaitances is quite good at math as long you put in a realistic context(i.e. calculating income/taxes/etc, or geometry of something that at very least resembles an object that exists, he just needs to find something that seems useful to Real Life(TM) to get into math autism)
>The process of conceptializing is just combinations of internal visualizing and/or monologues.
The "observable" form would be that. But how are the connections actually happening? You aren't just blurting out words and mental images, you are actually forming connections between concepts, and can even write out how as a formula with enough self-awareness.
>Explain how this is different then language.
No you explain me what does that have to do with anything. Regardless of how the idea is formed, how it is communicated through language, the point is still about reading/listening with all the attached context and inferring whatever might be the point somebody is trying to drive at.

>>83810931
He's saying that Si's are fags who troon out, learn to read between the lines.

>>83810931
>But, Mel is entj and likes Magical girl stuff.
Well "ENTJ" as per Jvng means Extraveted Thinking type with a pronounced aux Intuition, so the inferior sides include introversion, sensation and feeling all mixed at once. The combination of these 3 elements is exactly what I, supposedly an EN(T), has, just more(less, from the perspective of the conscious attitude) in favor of the Si-groidism.

>>83810950
This might be sort of true actually, trying to live out remote possibilities in a super concrete literal primitive way sounds grim.

>>83810799
>obsession with very perfect idol-esque doll-like waifus like typical gacha characters
I can explain this one for you, at least from my personal experience with similar. What drives them to 2D perfection is a combination of 3D imperfection and a belief that one deserves to have the best. Real women are humans. Flawed and imperfect, just like you. Someone with this kind of mindset doesn't want that though. They want perfection, and don't want to settle for anything less. What really separates a 2Dfag from a 2Dchud (for lack of better things to call them) is their willingness to accept that perfection doesn't exist in real life. The 2Dfag has made peace with this, and is generally okay with having nothing over an imperfect something. The 2Dchud on the other hand can't accept that a woman who lives up to his standards doesn't exist and remains in constant yearning for it, which just makes him more angry and bitter.

Like I said though, It's my own perspective. I'm sure not all 2Dfags are like this, nor are all 2Dchuds.

>>83810943
>ad hominem attacks & other logical fallacies
>can't refute the argument
Anon-kun, you should observe how your own mind actually works instead of rationalizing how you think it works.

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>>83810799
>I think it actually might be the chudiness that makes them transition in the end
I don't think they'll transition so much as become crossdressing sissies when gooning and later rationalize how they're not homos.
>I mean I can't help but notice the typical INTP chud type also tends to have an obsession with very perfect idol-esque doll-like waifus like typical gacha characters
Aren't they usually obsessed with stuff like death note and stiens gate and fuckin Dr. Stone. Were is trannyness in those? I'm not saying they're not latent trannies, I'm just saying I don't see the connection.
>They seem likely to have some repressed desires here. Maybe the resentment they're so known for is really coming from a repressed desire like this
100% I've been in /vg/ threads (as in more then one) were a chud caught girl playing is favorite game IRL (in cafe/target/etc) and started seething and taking stalker pics of her. It's so insane it has to be repression.
>Or maybe it's like they can't stand the idea of just being a normal gay person or something so they have to go all the way and become the opposite sex for it to feel normal
An INTP once awnsered a question here about alien abuduction rape like "if they turn me into a female then it's ok" like it was perfectly logical to him, but being raped as a man was abhorant.

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>>83811003
And I think you should learn the dictionary definition of "humour".
Although that was only a funny way to say I believe you are experiencing Type Problems, i.e. not separating very well your own typology with the rest of the world and the other people in it. The explanation of why you, personally, see thought as very attached to the concrete can be argued Junganically as a connection between the function of Thinking and the unconscious(which is primitive and comes from, essentially natural mental instincts), hence the function is very likely to be inferior.

And anectodical evidence being provided doesn't mean I'm not referencing to (what we agree is) a valid theoretical concept already. We all accept Jungian type theory as a fact here, right? Otherwise we aren't on the same wavelengths and you are trying to argue the premises, which is not what I'm trying to do here.

And the last part of the reply is pointing out a non-sequitur of yours, or rather my inability to see how it connects to the point.

>>83811051
Nta, I'm pretty sure I've debated this anon. He's an istp who only understands what he can touch & feel and since sensations are transitory he thinks that only death is real.
>>83811050
>I don't think they'll transition so much as become crossdressing sissies when gooning and later rationalize how they're not homos.
There is some INTP right now in school girl outfit blowing a guy who thinks it's not gay because it's not anal sex. INTPs are great at rationalizing stuff like this.
>>83811003
>Anon-kun, you should observe how your own mind actually works instead of rationalizing how you think it works.
Have you observed your own mind? Perception superceeds the five senses.
>>83810956
>The combination of these 3 elements is exactly what I, supposedly an EN(T), has, just more(less, from the perspective of the conscious attitude) in favor of the Si-groidism.
You're an ENTJ? Or ENFJ?

>>83811155
>He's an istp who only understands what he can touch & feel and since sensations are transitory he thinks that only death is real.
Wow rude, ISTP/IT(S) would never because they are still a Ti-groid head with differentiated thinking, very much abstracted from raw primitive concretism. Sensation stuff would only be supplied as evidence mainly, and Intuition stuff would still be accepted whenever it fits.
Please don't confuse pairing with Sensation as lower differentiation/abstraction of a function, it's a MBTI-flavored misunderstanding of Jungian theory.

>>83811155
>You're an ENTJ? Or ENFJ?
My sensation is so fucking shit that I didn't see that at all until now, so I will let you figure out.

Answer for cross-checking purposes: ENTP, I use "EN(T)" notation because people seem to have settled on that whenever you are talking about more Jung-accurate typology as opposed to MBTI. The formula is [attitude]+[main function]+([auxiliary]), so ENTJ for instance would be closer to ET(N), Extraveted Thinking(Intuition)

>>83811155
>He's an istp who only understands what he can touch & feel and since sensations are transitory he thinks that only death is real.
Are you implying that someones personality influences their outlook/philosophy? If that was true the majority of INFJ's would be guru-mystics but most are normies with nothing deeper about them. Empiricism is a pretty common outlook, especially with contrarian "noticer" chud types who don't trust anything they can't touch, unless it convienently perscribes to a preconcieved notion they have, so for example they'll suddeny believe in the efficacy of academic studies if it proves women are whores.
>>83811180
>IT(S) would never behave outside their programming
Nona, I don't wanna be a meanie, but mbti stuff isn't an immutable absolute law people have to abide be all the time.

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Morning yall. So do we got new reggies? I see a furry poster and pretty cure poster. I wonder if they'll be cool like togatanon or just more autistic spergs.

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>>83811237
>Nona, I don't wanna be a meanie, but mbti stuff isn't an immutable absolute law people have to abide be all the time.
I know dw, actual answer would be that I have no idea about what's the type, but if I have to make typological considerations on the idea expressed, then I associate that kind of thought concretism with an inferior Thinking function.

>Are you implying that someones personality influences their outlook/philosophy?
NTA but... this is a very self-evident statement. Yes of course, both in the common sense of "personality" being one of the factors shaping the way you interact with well, anything external or internal, and your Jungian type.
>If that was true the majority of INFJ's would be guru-mystics
Possibly because that's just a dum stereotype. That said, I'm quite sure it's true that back when people were more connected with mysticism, the Ni-groids would flock to it especially if their thinking is on the lower side.

I would like to ask you what the fuck do you think is even the point of personality or types if they have 0 effect your outlook in general terms. Are you confusing it with the persona? But even that does have an effect in a way, the persona isn't fully dissociated with your Self at all.

>>83811261
Don't call me a reggie you fucking horny slut.
I just post Precure occasionally because the Ne-groid excitement over the new season is quite hard to contain, normally I'm full on theoryposter ITT.

>>83811261
im always here every thread but no one ever notices me or members me.

>>83811261
Pretty cure poster seems fun. IDK anything about the furry but if he's a furry he'll either be super chill or an extreme lolcow and nothing inbetween.

>>83811303
>im always here every thread but no one ever notices me or members me.
EVERYONE notices you because you're the anon who complains every thread that no one notices you! I'm gonna call you noone-chan

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bewar bore-boars,, this Cuny has. copyright claim Heh! Hehe heheh!

>>83811321
Diaryangel whats new? Can you post some sexy pics of yourself please, thanks.

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>>83811331
Yena baddho balee raja daanavandro mahaabalah. Tena twam abhibadhnaami rakshe maa chala maa chala

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>>83811352
Wha?
Do. you. have. sexy. pictures. or. not?

>>83810931
>But, Mel is
insecure as fuck

>>83811369
Unrelated but it reminds me I know a Te-groid granny who watched Sailor Moon.
That being said, every type can be insecure especially when it comes to the inferior function shit.

>mel insecure
do you think all her talk is just posturing???

>>83808114
>type
INFP
>What's a hobby you used to love but dropped?
Playing guitar
>What's something on your bucket list?
None, idgaf
>What's the most be-ta thing you've done for a girl/guy?
Gave a present (bracelet) to my middle school crush
Pretty cringy when i look back at it
>what's the worst advice you've gotten
Anything i've ever read from self improoovers on /r9k/ would qualify
>What's the saddest "it's over" moment you've had
Any day i have to spend with my parents together
>Whats your go to form of doomerism (climate, fall of western civ, nuclear war, etc)
Europe's demographic change is fucking grim

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>>83809506
>while the ego becomes inflated beyond reason. That this is possible shows that the ego is a subjective factor
I see this that ego is a function complex based on ego archetype, like any other complex being archetype-based.
>Self
Jung generally talks of like 4 selves. In that passage it's meant as the personal archetype of "Self" type, and as the Self as the archetype.
>ego usurps subject's claim
Now here the "self"/subject is a composite totality of the psyche.
>personal images
That's from the universal archetypes within the personal complexes. Any complex can affect any personal experience for any attitude and any type (side-note for myself - complexes are like parasites feeding on the potential qualia that the ego-Self axis could experience).

>(introvert's) intuition is of archetypes
I had that misconception too, but then one reads in into introvert's sensation and it's suddenly described like perceiving stuff like it's static archetypal fairy tale environment (while intuition is of dynamic progression of a specific pattern). And then introvert's feeling and thinking, as rationing functions, suddenly follow the inner Eros/Logos (roughly speaking) archetypal patterns of something, rather that the object's rules.

Concrete and abstract divide of a function is irrelevant to extraversion/introversion btw.
So it'd be like... Introvert/extravert can work with how pattern/object is showing itself in static/dynamic rationality/irrationality OR how it SHOULD be showing itself.

>>83809458
>that sounds more like extroverted intuition to me than extroverted sensation
But what if I'm searching for papers to confirm my expected sensoid bias?

>Why IF instead of IT
>Couldn't that be explained by a difference of attitude alone?
Maybe, maybe.

In scenario where your type is IN(T): if without preparation/training on something I'm a fish out of the water around the ET(x) rawdogging the something, AND I'm kicked out of the IN(T) club for me apparently ET(x)ing, then...?

>>83811389
especially the talk without the tripcode

>>83810536
>100% Ni
Doesn't sound like Ni to Mi.

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>>83810042
>A BPDemon is the only hope for an autist loose their virginity. We're do I find them?
In the psych ward, INxP bro

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Guess the [types].

My recurring experience with [types] is like:
>What's up with X?
Oh it's X, and Y comes after.
>Wait, what? No. It's X and there's also Z
Isn't Z already devastatingly obvious when you have X and Y?
>what Y? Who cares about Y. There's X. and. Z.

btw I have only a guess myself, I don't know the real [types].

>>83809553
I'm reading this "according to" the diagram >>83806547
>omnipotence-via-acceptance over own psyche is possible if you SVBMIT hard enough
>ego (ego-Self axis) is so snowflake special as a complex that it must not be treated like other complexes, it must be given grandiose demonization
>you are not you, you are your X
Hmm. Nah.

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>>83810025
This is a very straightforward intuition description, though it has some thikoidism attached to it. Not too much, since he went on to call it a "vibe" too(that's closer to feelingisms). Attitude can't really be determined because intuition does this either on external objects(which are entirely derived from your context so they don't translate to universal meanings, but he doesn't mention that) or the subjective factor(which are archetypal and always internally consistent so they don't tell you about contextual information, but he doesn't mention that), the process is still the same, only the content changes. I actually thought about it but it's so vague that I can't really prove whether he means extraverted or introverted intuition, this is just intuition period.

But I strongly disagree with the argument.
>a software program is best at solving software programming so of course that means that's dumb shit for NORMIES
No shit? Next you will tell me a calculator is best at solving math, so of course mathematicians are dumbasses.
Also I can tell he never tried to actually vibecode lol. I did, I had to scream at the dumb LLM to fix shit multiple times and he just do it until I explained in excruciating detail... at that point I might as well just change the code myself. VGH just watch Claude Plays Pokemon or something and tell me what's the actual problem solving capacity of LLM right now. Spoiler: it's SHIT, a barely literate kid can beat the game in a few days.

>>83811755
>pic
What's her type?

I'm discussing concrete/abstract before even getting to that part in PT btw...... Uhm... Back to PT.

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>>83811774
Extraverted Feeling(Intuition)

So in typological doomerism, interacting with people is just dice rolls given:
>type compatibility given Type Problem
>expression compatibility given Type Problem
>current level of use of fantasia aka transcendent function
>archetype complex interference
>mood
>phase of the moon

>Jung talked of libidinal surplus value
Psyche economics bros? We have 100 years old surstromming to eat

>>83811865
On a more positive note, if both parties possess enough awareness of all of that, along with both a self-accepting and other-accepting attitude, it would remove a lot of the dice rolls involved.
>Type Problem
If I understand types are a thing, I can look both within and without to grasp which attitude-type difference or function-type difference is involved, and attempt to mediate by appealing to "compensation of the opposites". e.g. an extraverted type knows, somewhere in his unconscious, that his rapport to the subjective factor and inner life is lacking, and that might offer valid insights he didn't consider even in the context of his outer life(because they constantly affect each other whether you like it or not).
>T.F.
In purely ideal, perhaps optimistic terms, if you are interacting with an opposite type you will both try to T.F. at the same time to truly understand what's going on. I feel like the most important thing here is that you both live in the middle realm in the moment, rather than the raw amount of time you did that throughout your entire life.
>archetype complex
Well, I wouldn't know how stop the possession in the moment either. Call an exorcist?
>mood
I summon Extraverted feeloid in attack position.
>phase of the moon
Make sure to bring a mini telescope with you.

>>83811940
>On a more positive note, if both parties possess enough awareness of all of that, along with both a self-accepting and other-accepting attitude, it would remove a lot of the dice rolls involved
Ok but that drags communication towards acknowledgements, not payload exchanges and especially not "Socratic dialogue." No?

>>83811954
It might be annoying but sometimes you notice you just can't skip over the acknowledgements.
And Socratic dialogue is just asking to make feeloids throw you out.

>>83811966
>Socratic dialogue is just asking to make feeloids throw you out.
Uh as far as I see it's a common format with sentiments, it's just that nobody calls it Socratic because of the associations with thinking and debates and whatnot.

>>83811976
Well fair enough, took it pretty literally there.
Should have known better since feeling is a rational function too lol

>>83808358
Can't say I'm done with the dorktectives but I glanced over that link and read up the specific terminology. Not much I can say yet though... other than that NGE ain't that special in getting very psychological/philosophical and dealing with similar themes, analystoids really need to expand their horizons on Japanese media. But I didn't need to tell that to somebody who brings up Muv Luv in the same post, so just leaving it here for whoever else wanted to know.

>>83812082
It's presented as introduction as to what Schizoanalysis exactly has as its basics.
i.e. giving legible context to give Anti-Oedipus & A Thousand Plateaus easier reading flow.
Y'know like how "introduction" section of a complex field's research paper is suddenly quality learning material to start from as a reference.

I had run into it somewhere after reading A-O and before starting ATP.

>>83812120
Oh well, I guess NGE serves its purpose here...
>On the level of dialogue, Gendo may be forcing Shinji inside his mother instead of acting as a figure of prohibition for the incestuous drive, as would be the case in most Freudian interpretations of the father-son relation
Acknowledging the mere possibility that some people long time ago might have taken this as not only a, but THE valid way to interpret literally anything genuinely makes me mad. Jesus Christ how horrifying.

>Light connects with plants to allow photosynthesis. Everything, from bodies to societies, is a form of territorialisation, or the connection of forces to produce distinct wholes. But alongside every territorialisation there is also the power of deterritorialisation. The light that connects with the plant to allow it to grow also allows for the plant to become other than itself: too much sun will kill the plant, or perhaps transform it into something else
I'm sure extraverts would love to read this one. Unironically I understood more from this silly example than anything said about NGE somehow, aside from vaguely recalling plot point because you know how many years ago was that right

>Evangelion chooses to stop at the point at which it is most philosophically and visually challenging, revealing a reluctance to think a truly radically different and deterritorialized future of humankind.
Welcome to Japanese media I guess.
Must return to the static and true archetypal image at all costs, not necessarily the exact same old status quo, but in a way or another a new one that is shaped much like the old one. You are allowed to think something else outside of it and ponder both the good and bad aspects usually, be changed by the experience in a self-growth perspective, but it was instrumental to show you what that archetypal image truly means and why you would willingly choose to attach yourself to it again, while given the chance.
Basically the equivalent of deep-diving in the unconscious as per Jung, then moving into the middle realm to do integrating and active imagination, but then back to a secure position of the conscious standpoint as opposed to just staying in the middle.

Fun read I guess, I didn't remember much about NGE but the rest of the examples helped.

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>>83812196
Yeah schizoanalysts were deliberate obfuscationists (damn shadow magicians t. Moore) AND weren't much deeper than Jung or Lacan (actually I've noticed they're a bit readlets on Jvvvng) but all the
>{"patterns are patterning and you can't fully decluster patterns because they'll end up clustering back to some forms, so managementally speaking keep the base pattern clusters a
as the status quo," "interactions between multi-layered systems are, wow, multilayered," "personal meanings are personally subjective and the objectivity-fixated people tend to forget that," "in any system or even just amassment of elements there can be a meta-system following pseudo-systematic activity as if it's a rhizome with no organs" (aka irrational, rather than rational, synchronicity), "rhizomes can interact if you could call it interaction," "Telos and entelechy is actually all about desires as ontological units" etc}
with the explorations on how it works like in society, schizophrenia, politics, families etc aren't bad. Except for the fascism-fearmongering-centrism.
Actually makes Freudian, Jungian theories more alive to consider.
>wait, wasn't this rec'd in context of LLMs?
Yes, it was.

>>83812391
Aww shucks my greentext assemblage rhizome just spilled its non-existing organs outside its "fascistic" rhizomatous containment.

>>83812391
>actually I've noticed they're a bit readlets on Jvvvng
I don't know how much they read him but he was directly mentioned, like once on the basic concept of the unconscious, ego and shadow but still.
>>wait, wasn't this rec'd in context of LLMs?
>Yes, it was.
I could remember that but for now I'm still not sure how it connects to LLMs.

>>83812408
>how it connects
They're literally functionally activating as the "rhizomes" when prompted/queried

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>>83812408
>>83812436
It'd be funny to pretend like I intended to NOT attach a pic, but-

>>83812436
Oh it's a neural network analogy lol

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>>83812449
Yes and no since a schizoanalytic would even see the the transistor states or just the words as they appear to the human eye as territorializing and shaping how the final rhizome could be seen (probably. I haven't seen any bother to think this far), then draw a parallel to schizophrenia being a parallel, then say neural networks are schizo-capitalism, then say that any misconceptions of "hallucinations" come from fascistic arrangements of psycho-libidinal interfaces of capitalism of no organs, then-

>>83812476
That begs the question of whether anyone bothered to "schizoanalyze"(there isn't even a psyche there in the first place) (or is there?), or at least connect the concepts for funsies with LLMs.
>then-
Eventually Patchy stopped thinking.

>>83809676
>Let me tell you how what you're saying sounds to someone who has a practical understanding of Jung (me).
There's a difference.
>>83810770
>he wasn't talking about their, um, biological roots, for a lack of a better term.
You've misunderstood my point. It's a biological analog for what it means for something to be irrational. Just like how Jung uses the Earth's moon as an analog for the meaning of irrational.
The very same "structure" of "out of reach of rationality" that applies to the biological sense of a function also applies to the psychological sense of the function. He isn't directly talking about the biological irrationality of a function, that's not what he's defining. BUT- he's also talking about its shared form through the context in which he uses the term irrationality under his own definition. Simply because the principle is universally identifiable.
The very same irrational nature that disallows you to understand the biological factors and processes which give rise to the experience you know as perception also applies to the psychological factors, and those psychological factors are PRECISELY what Jung was talking about when he coined the term "irrational".
Basically, the ego cannot apply "rationale" to something irrational in order to gain a deeper understanding of the irrational thing. Because the thing is irrational, its very nature is ungraspable, it escapes logic and rationale, it is unreachable through the mechanism of logic and rationale.

Also:
I don't fixate on the words and abstract them. I take the sentence as a whole to understand the meaning. But that doesn't mean individual words are arbitrary. Certain operative terms necessarily shift the meaning of the whole, especially when those terms are being used in a Jungian sense, where words name psychic attitudes, not just ideas.
Changing the operative words completely changes the meaning of the sentence.

Also that loops back to the original intuition: with enough suspension of disbelief to assume neural networks are a form of "psyche", but one that does not possess any consciousness(or does it?), and it can be loosely linked to human phenomenons such as "schizophrenic hallucinations" that are ultimately a reinforcement of unconscious fantasy forcing itself into conscious perception, could it be that the way LLMs currently work effectively mimick exactly these two things:
>the function of intuition to become aware of unconscious associations, but without being able to reverse engineer how the resulting image
>the actual way unconscious associations are formed as a probabilistic/repetition pattern-based algorithm

>>83812551
>to reverse engineer how the resulting image
was formed

>>83811537
Assuming you're right about introversion, where does that leave extroverted intuition?
>ego is a function complex based on ego archetype
Derived From != Is
>Jung generally talks of like 4 selves. In that passage it's meant as the personal archetype of "Self" type
"The introverted attitude is normally governed by the psychological structure, theoretically determined by heredity, but which to the subject is an ever present subjective factor. This must not be assumed, however, to be simply identical with the subject's ego, an assumption that is certainly implied in the above mentioned designations of Weininger; it is rather the psychological structure, the Self, is far more comprehensive than the ego, because the former also embraces the unconscious, while the latter is essentially the focal point of consciousness"
He means the Self as the subject, the psy "individual Self "psychololo through out. He's marking the distinction between the ego and the Self as the inclusion of the unconscious, and therefor the inclusion of the archetypes: This isn't to the exclusion of conscious factors. Him hedging so much against them may make it seem so, but he's doing that explicitly in anticipation of his immediate audience's preconceptions.
Did you catch that jab at Frued on page 53, the one i posted?
>rules
I don't think it's a matter of rules, i think it's a matter of direction. I refer again to the Chapter XI entry for Introvert.
>then...?
I quite don't understand the question.
>But what if I'm searching for papers to confirm my expected sensoid bias?
Introverted Sensation. Maybe that's your type... Regardless, I'll make another post about this, because it's a good opportunity to dig up my old charts.

>>83812539
>imply because the principle is universally identifiable.
Hmmmm
nyo.
There might be universally identifiable concepts, but does that automatically mean it was currently properly identified? Both by Jung himself and the people involved in the convo. Eh.

>Basically, the ego cannot apply "rationale" to something irrational in order to gain a deeper understanding of the irrational thing. Because the thing is irrational, its very nature is ungraspable, it escapes logic and rationale, it is unreachable through the mechanism of logic and rationale.
I mean. Let me point out a very important distinction here.
Can the ego, and thus the subject from his conscious standpoint, apply reason to irrational fact? Yes of course, we are doing that right now.
Does that mean that the irrational fact itself IS the postulated image? Lol no, but sure enough a sufficently refined idea does say really something about these facts, it does "further" my understanding even if it might never make it fully whole.

It's convincing not just because we are playing elaborated suggestion tricks, but because you can really "observe" the idea outside of your own mind, and other people can observe it too, so the idea does belong to the object after all, though it's not THE object in its wholeness. Could you possibly fool people into completely abandoning this "objectivity" with enough bullshitting? I guess, but that's because people hate to think for themselves.
At this point I will have to ask whether you believe reason is merely suggestion.

>But that doesn't mean individual words are arbitrary.
Well I have bad news for you...
>Changing the operative words completely changes the meaning of the sentence.
However, it might not change what the subject tried to communicate through it. People can just... fuck up, or be bad at communicating. Introverts often are.

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Re-reading my own posts is funny because damn I don't immediately notice how it absolutely sounds like stereotypical shit people say about my type.
Having it readily available in text form written on the computer screen and being able to analyze it as an external object afterwards hits different.

Ahem,

>Thinking, then, derives from the reality of the image, but has the image reality? To answer that question, let us turn to the field of natural science, where we can find abundant evidence of the potency of an image.
>If you cut an earthworm in two, the segment with the head will grow a new tail, and the tail segment will grow a new head. If you destroy the lens of a salamander's eye, a new lens will develop. In both these cases it must be assumed that the organism carries within itself, in some way, an image of its totality, which totality tends to be reestablished when disturbed. In the same way, the fact that the mature oak is contained within the acorn suggests this principle of the image of the whole.
>Of course, the principle of reestablishing the integrity of the whole when a portion is lopped off works within limitations. The thing replaced is of a more archaic type than the original. So one can say in general that if a differentiated form is removed, the organ substituted goes back to a more primitive level. The same thing happens psychologically.

Not exactly the same thing I realize, but the only point here is to establish that the image really says something about reality to some degree, and is contained within objects.

>>83812699
Using the right word isn't hard.
"Help! I'm suffocating! I can't walk!".
"I was at the beach and a nigger stole my sandwich. I tried to home, but a gull had eaten my bike, so i had to take the trampoline, which sank. What a kumquat day!"

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>>83812657
>Derived From != Is
Yes! Practical "is" is possible usually only on (ego's, in this case) archetypal inflation colonizing everything.

>I quite don't understand the question.
"What type I'm left to be considered as?"

>>searching for papers to confirm my expected sensoid bias?
>Introverted Sensation. Maybe that's your type...
As sensoid persona type? Maybe.
As my actual type?
Wouldn't agree, since I'm not into the mythopoeTic side of Jung/Campbell/Moore.
If I ever do the IS(x) thing of "seeing things as fairy tales," it's only for entertainment or to distract/hype myself up. i.e. "at best" I'd be IT(N), but, again, the pecking order of how much I strvggle/mess something up is, descending from least faulty-prone: N>T>F>S (also I guess I'm not FAT32 pffft). My relationship with sensation got me: almost dying, almost getting crippled, {kitchen knife incidents}, having to play soccer and basketball as if I play American football despite all designated training or else I'm more useless that literal fatlards, feel like I'm doing dice rolls when my trainer tells me to correct my stance (he thinks I don't have to micromanage vague qualia microfeels of muscles and tendons to adapt), having to invent 666 diagrams and constructions and re-approaches just to copy whatever art style I'm trying to copy and then give up when I exactly hate the art style as it is-

Jungology stuff is for later a reply.

>>83812551
>>83812561
Ok but this implies intuitions don't have bias, only raw statistics crunching given just reinforcements and data banks.

>>83812508
>psyche
Depends on what's counting as an actually legit psyche, and how much you're into animism, and then you have to ask what DOESN'T have a psyche.
Does amyloid plaque have a psyche? Does a HeLa cancer cell have a psyche? Does a graveyard have a psyche?
Personally I'm not into dehumanizing people as much as I'm not into (re)humanizing people and non-people, so I wouldn't know.

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>>83812955
In theory not, but in practice very much so. Language itself isn't static and people aren't dictionary bots.
Wordism is to "win" silly internet arguments, or make the audience in a public debate think you are very smort. Take it any further than that, and it's just a mental disease.

>>83812975
>Ok but this implies intuitions don't have bias, only raw statistics crunching given just reinforcements and data banks.
Ideally they don't, as much as any function can grasp an unbiased aspect of reality unless it's falsified by something else.
If intuition was inherently biased, then it would be hardly different to projection.
Perhaps it's more difficult to see it that way for introvert who use it as main function because for them it's very close to the subjective factor, but even that returns to the collective unconscious and tells you about the dynamic reality of archetypes, not really your own bias unless those are added later.

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>>83813104
I'm thinking of the angle where intuition's (and any function complex, archetype complex, etc) entelechy drive is pushing it not towards best perceptions for the composite self, but for the perceptions that make it easier to give credit to intuition to justify preferring intuition more.
That's among other possible biases.

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>>83812955
A perfectly illustrated point, anon. Perfectly.
>>83812699
>nyo.
I think you're responding to a claim I didn't make.
I made no mentions about whether or not it has been identified, merely that it is universally identifiable. It's a principle which exists not only in functions or the psyche, but also in objects or other abstract concepts.
Not only that, it's not a mutually exclusive idea. Two separate things can both be irrational and both be irrational in different ways without excluding the other objects irrational nature.
The principle, "irrational" is universally identifiable and not mutually exclusive by that very universal property.
>Can the ego, and thus the subject from his conscious standpoint, apply reason to irrational fact?
Sure, you can do that. But it's a fruitless endeavor, due to the irrational fact being irrational. It's unreachable by reason, simply because it was not born of reason.
Can you use a fruit peeler to hammer a screw? Sure, you *CAN* do that. Can you use a peanut butter jelly sandwich as fuel for your car? SURE, you CAN do that. It won't get you very far, or more likely, it won't get you anywhere at all.
>it does "further" my understanding
>"If I apply enough reason to this irrational idea it loses its irrationality!"
That defies the very meaning of irrational. You cannot reach an irrational concept through rationality.
It's literally the opening of the definition

The best you can do is get a perimeter around the irrational object. But that doesn't further your understand OF it, merely where it exists. You can create an image based on this perimeter, you can call it a name, but still, you've not penetrated the walls of its perimeter with reason.
>so the idea does belong to the object after all,
Does the pain you feel when you touch a roses thorn belong to you, or the rose?
Your entire argument collapses with this one analog.
>Well I have bad news for you...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8IVI0sZ6F8

>>83812699
>People can just... fuck up
Yes, you did fuck up. I agree. It's called making a categorical error. It's a fundamental fuck up. Not merely a fuck up in an elaboration with speech.

>>83812988
Words have meanings. If you want to be intelligible, you must respect them. The purpose of language is to communicate, which requires you to be intelligible.
There's a difference between applying the wrong meaning to "intelligible" here, and using the wrong word, like "laudable".
If you consistently call something pink, blue, you don't know what either word means. Just because people can work out your gibberish, doesn't mean you aren't speaking gibberish. If you yell "Help, i can't run!" while drowning, you'll probably still be saved. If you tell me my car is pink, i'll tell you to see an optometrist.
>2 and 2 make 22
>no, they make 4
>you should have known i meant 4! stop playing word games!

>>83813148
That's a funny idea. You think functions operate in a system where they try to farm psychic social credit in your own mind?
I feel like there's something to it but hmmmmm
Oh well, I will deflect to the fact that the most "true" perception and reasoning is technically only possible via T.F., but I was trying to split it in parts for the sake of argument and say intuition is true to its own principle ideally.

>>83813166
I'm just going to nyo the entire post then.
Reason is quite pointless if you don't believe it leads to understanding either way.

>>83813174
You can fuck up both ways... which proves the point regardless of who you think fucked up here.

>>83813220
I don't disagree with the intention, but as a pure blood irrational type I have to simply point out at the possibility of accidents and claim it's nobody's fault.
All you can do is trying to reduce them as the speaker/writer, and hope your listener/reader proceeds with the same awareness.

How do we make INFJ-A do like this feeloid >>83811815 and have him "like" detectives so much that he actually tries to develop thinking (albeit clumsily, but she's trying her best and literally set herself up for T.F. ing by really wanting to reach thinking)?

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You don't even know what it means to develop thinking!

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INFP x INFJ is the most beautiful relationship that can ever exist in this world
And it is doomed to tragedy every time

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>100+ posts
>CTRL+F ISFJ
>0 results
Huh

But I literally experienced it......

>>83813746
For me it's the INTJ x ESFP x ENFJ """"love"""" triangle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMUBdgoUrhc
Yes this is an actual scene from an actual little grill anime.

>>83813777
Background character type lol
Still deserving of love though

>>83813836
In anime it's likely to be a self insert protag actually.
But people will say it's literally anything else because lol N bias

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I wonder if my INTP fe is the fact that I cannot for the life of me Give a shit about people and their problems, I try to umm...sympathise and be polite howoever I also, Just, Don't want to get into sensitive issues because, 1) IT gets really fucking BORING, and i HATE people I just wish i could KILL a LOT of THEM

What did you experience, putting your own dick in your own ass?

We already proved there was no dick, merely an intuition mistaken as a sense impression.

IT'S PROOFED
PATCHERS DE-DICKED HIMSELF!!!

<--- is not patchers

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Considering how tradies were treating paint/code apes when it came time for AI to "Replace" Them, I am certainly not going to feel much empathy for them when world models and neural networks hit, making robotics more profitable. At this point and time LLMs have the spatial reasoning of a 3 year old IIRC but they might be able to do more when other avenues of artificial intelligence comes in.

don't make me explain my joke.
>:(

>>83814078
This is good enough of a not-explaining-the-joke-while-still-explaining-the-joke
You should remember, I was talking about you wanting a dick in the butt when I said that.

AI, and especially current LLM multimodal transformers architecture isn't going to replace anything.
You still need the codemonkey to actually check vibecode'd shite, you still need an artist for actual artistic direction. All it really does is provide better tools for people who were already into it.
It will raise the standards and baseline though, you have to do better than Joe Average's proompting at least.
As for artists specifically, they are always historically conservative(not in terms of politics ofc), so it's hard to take their complaints seriously when they will always tell you new tools bad at any point in time.

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>>83813746
Yuno (INFJ) + Yukiteru (INFP)

https://youtube.com/watch/F0lsEV8A2qc

>>83814970
>>83813746
Why is the INFJxINFP relationship always twisted and the INFJ crazy?

Off-topic but since studies have repeatedly shown that logic barely sways anyone's opinion wouldn't a real Tegroid use emotional manipulation as much as they possibly can?

>>83814543
Jobs will still be here while big tech gleans every last drop of data from useful idiots e.g. wagies

If we are using emotion as equivalent of feeling here, then simply put their function isn't differentiated enough, even if they might logically agree it would be more effective.
If it's about abusing primitive emotivity connected with the inferior function, sure they might figure out ways to do that and I'm quite sure some absolutely go for it(even without knowing Jungian typology, but they will think about figuring out weakpoints that seem to arouse uncontrollable emotions in people)

Ew I know you did not just hide a 16p typology statement behind Jungian terms.
Ew.
Ew.
E.W.

>>83815057
>Tegroid use emotional manipulation as much as they possibly can?
Yes obviously, remember Mel talked about her sales and it was all just is emotional manipulate?

There were two big fucking "If"s
The Jungian stance would be the second one though, the first is mixing Feeling and emotion, so if you are talking about swaying people from the Feeling side, you do in fact need the Feeling function to be available to you.

Well, I was specifically talking about the second half. Because you seemingly implied that it was somehow indicative of someone's type, or that Te types would be more prone to, or more aware of this possibility.

The point I was not-so-well-ly making was that emotional manipulation is unrelated to type. And trying to correlate it to type is the 16p-behavioral-scheme I was referring to. Even an INFP will do this. Touching on someone's complex intentionally or accidentally and seeing an (over)reaction and possession by the inferior function can be done by anyone of any type for any reason.

It's ok second point actually says little about the type at all. As in, the only thing it says is that it sounds slightly more in tune with thinkoid logic.

Well, if you weren't saying
>"Yeah, Te types are the emotionally manipulative types!"
Then there's no issue.

But, there is an interesting topic there,
the difference between feeling and emotion (affect).
Because in a sense, feeling and emotion are the same, but at the same time- they're not.
The emotion is a result of the feeling, or the display of that feeling. So in that sense, they're the same.
But, the emotion is not the judgement itself, and in that sense, they're different.

>>83815041
INFJs and INFPs are both crazy. It's basically dom crazy + sub crazy.
INFPs are just the only ones capable of accepting the depth of the INFJ craziness (because they are also crazy)
The result is literally just the purest deepest love there is that will inevitably implode due to double craziness.

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All I know is that I would plant small bombs in their kokoro.
Yes I'm quite bored rn, I have no idea if he's bullshitting tho.

>>83815510
Wrong wrong wrong,
INFJ x INTJ is the most perfect pairing

Took me a second to parse this one out, BUT:
Feeling and affect (emotion) belong to the same psychic event (they are the same "thing" in the same sense that a tree's leaves and its apple are both the tree). But they are differentiable, meaning they are not precisely the same thing. They are two sides of the same psychic event. And that's precisely what inferior feelers need to understand and differentiate. Because the inferior feeler perceives their feeling function specifically and almost exclusively from the affect side of the coin.

To differentiate inferior feeling is to see where the affect (emotion) ends the judgement (feeling) starts. Because these two psychic events are directly related.

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>>83815625
I won't deny it's a functional pairing but that's all it is. The INTJ is a curiosity for the INFJ. INFJ can "fix" INTJ but INTJ can never truly understand INFJ (their deepest need). The connection will never be truly deep and always imbalanced. Even if on the outside it appears to be a capable pairing.

With INFJ x INFP there is no need of fixing or lack of understanding. Only pure harmonious acceptance.
It is important to point out that INFJ x INFP relationships are always destroyed by outside forces (we live in a society).
If the INFJ and INFP could only just live separate in their own crazy realm forever they would become timeless divine entities.

Actually I have no issues with that explanation.

As for the small bombs blue truthing, the micro fusion devices theory doesn't appear to be fully denied to me?
>far beyond current physics and engineering capabilities
Ok but it's not like we can't overturn those eventually, and as unlikely as it sounds it could have already happened exactly in that mansion. Lost technology now because huh.... Kinzo paid somebody to never reveal how to create micro fusion devices, he hid many things there from the outside world after all.
Lol lmao

Wonder what type R07 himself was. IN(T) probably?
Who else would conceive such completely insane possibilities even only for fun?

>>83815750
Infps can't understand anything their "understanding" of the infj is just posturing and lies. Suave words that make her feel seen when in reality they don't know how to screw in a lightbulb. 70IQ maximum type

>>83815845
He certainly yapped a lot about various concepts that only he and his fans really care about. The whole "Lone voice crying out in the darkness" quote fit him well.

My guess is that for 4chan I would think that it is mostly inhabited by irrational types of whatever flavor. Mostly Se-doms, some of the other boards have more esoteric types in it but I can't imagine that rationals would really fuck with the general mix of contrarianism and simultaneously the desire to fit in at the same time. Outside of maybe Ti-doms.

>>83815938
>Mostly Se-doms
Can see that from the side of needing an inferior intuition fix, but otherwise 4chan is a bit too speculah and very willing to not giving a shit about actual reality.
I'm sure they exist here somewhere but "mostly" idk.

As for rationals, both introverts would fit, Fi-groids can also be contrarian as hell but more about on the side of values than speculah of course. And they'd like to fit into a more practical sense too, as in knowing what the fuck to do with their lives.

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>>83815880
Typical INTJ thinking lol. Everybody will love me cause I'm so smart and logical and rational and I've got everything planned out and I know everything.
The INFJ x INFP connection is beyond words or intelligence. It's already happened the moment they've caught the slightest glimpse of each other out of the corner of their eyes. One look and they know. Kneel before the raw magnetic power of intuitive feeling.

>>83815996
My general read on a lot of anons is that they don't actually want to say anything that is actually contrarian, y'know how anons say everyone but them is safe edgy? Well I think that is also what is kind of going on, trying to maximize their own edgelord cred while not really brekaing that much out of the box. Fi/Tifags would have a bit more novel opinions than just reflexive contrarianism. Then again I don't really think that Te/Fefags even have that in them. It's mostly something I see in extroverted irrationals, saying shit they barely really believe in because it riles people up and they get their fix from the confrontation.

>>83816018
INTJ or IN(T), I swear I never heard them saying "everyone will love me". Their Feeling function ain't that clueless.

>>83816022
>think that Te/Fefags even have that in them
It's very precisely "in" them actually. As in, can blurt out some nasty shit from the inferior Fi/Ti. It's already a bit of a stereotype that extraverted feeloids suddenly make you freeze in place when they let it slip what they are thinking, or do it in purpose because you took them out of the feeling.

>extraverted irrationals
Intuition yeah, Sensation in theory yes but IRL, not on 4chan lol.

I'm not allowed to speak my truth thoughts. People don't accept them and because I espoused those ideas they in turn do not accept me. It gets old being alone and having no one wanting to be around you. Eventually you learn not to say the bad thinks out loud because you aren't allowed.

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>>83815154
>Yes obviously, remember Mel talked about her sales and it was all just is emotional manipulate?
Hey, I'm not some fuckin used car salesperson, my job is to FIND inventory for resellers/small business. Say you want 2 dozen vintage 1950s shaving razors, I get them, and I'm fucking good at it.
>>83815180
>swaying people from the Feeling side, you do in fact need the Feeling function to be available to you.
IDK tho, the test says I'm ENTJ and I consider myself good at reading emotions (I used to think was ENF- lol). Like I instantly know how to sell to someone just by seeing them.
>>83815625
>INFJ x INTJ is the most perfect pairing
Why do believe this? Just curious.

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Sitting down and opening JVNG and opening a non-4chan text editor to write something up feels like using the Accelerator card on Suguri in 100% OJ when there's a player on a home tile in front of you and your winning conditions are combat victories.
Moore would make some comments of caution to ponder on, on this. But it's ok, I have these moments everywhere and often.

>>83808767
This isn't even a very novel way to see Jung, per Jung (per Jung per Jung per Jung per Jung per Jung peryoon~).
He literally speaks as subjective factors coming from subjective functional complexes, btw.

>>83812657
>Did you catch that jab at Frued on page 53, the one i posted?
I'm not registering where it's posted. Is this about Freud being a feeling type that got into making a thinkoid system and it shows in the thinkoid system being subpar-ish?

Anyhow, full Jungology reply (9700+ characters but it's just first giving a concise direct reply, and then separately having scatterbrained fun of Junging the Jung):
https://pastes.io/jungology-
https://archive.is/Vri08 (for the archive-divers)

>>83815614
>pic
Doesn't prompting that put you on the w*tchl*st?

>>83814166
If AI is so good then why we aren't making a slave caste of AIs to pay the consumerist cattle's taxes?

>>83813238
>That's a funny idea. You think functions operate in a system where they try to farm psychic social credit in your own mind?
Abstractly speaking, yes. Like competing yanderes putting you into situations where you have to rely on them and see them as very useful necessities in your life.

>>83816257
>If AI is so good then why we aren't making a slave caste of AIs to pay the consumerist cattle's taxes
Who would pay for it?

>>83816059
>It's very precisely "in" them actually. As in, can blurt out some nasty shit from the inferior Fi/Ti. It's already a bit of a stereotype that extraverted feeloids suddenly make you freeze in place when they let it slip what they are thinking, or do it in purpose because you took them out of the feeling.

I think the contrarianism on 4chan is way too deliberate for it to come from a place of inferior introverted rationality. I should've clarified, I have a bad habit of leaving out details when I'm typing, kind of a space cadet lol
About Se though? I go to a local happening thread and see fags fall for the most blatant bullshit imaginable and then get surprised when it turns out that shit isn't even true. Anons constantly fall for the most blatant bait as well, I imagine that an intuition type would be quite tricky to fool.

>>83816280
If AI is so good then AI would pay.

>>83816257
>https://pastes.io/jungology-
Man the markdown absolutely messed the formatting up despite previewing as greentexting stuff.

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>>83816257
25 not 53. Inf S moment.

>>83816391
Cheeky Jung

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>>83816107
>I'm not allowed to speak my truth thoughts.
Why? Is it really chuddy stuff or black pilled talking points? Normies don't like that stuff.
>People don't accept them and because I espoused those ideas they in turn do not accept me.
Does it matter if the group validates you? Are you Chinese or India? You'll die without connection to the hive mind? You can just find another group to fit into anon.
>It gets old being alone and having no one wanting to be around you.
Let me tell you anon there is only one way to make friends: you have to give them something they want (usually attention). No one cares about you (or me) until you make them care.

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>>83816391
I'm so used to Freud that I didn't even register that beyond background noise thoughts.

>>83816257
>>83816385
>https://pastes.io/jungology-
>https://archive.is/Vri08 (for the archive-divers)

Better upload.
https://justpaste.app/p/3i13rs
https://archive.is/7mvQh (archive in progress)

>>83816391
>every function of the soul
WTF is the "soul" supposed to be?

>>83816415
Just the psyche
>Psyche [...] has Greek origins, and is commonly translated as "soul," "life," and "spirit."

Not like you couldn't make some ontology system with soul functions or something.

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>>83816415
The Heart

>>83816415
The spleen

>>83816415
That's the question that philosophers have been trying to answer for like 2000 years or some shit.

>>83816398
>You can just find another group to fit into anon.
I've never fit in with any group.

>Let me tell you anon there is only one way to make friends: you have to give them something they want (usually attention). No one cares about you (or me) until you make them care.
You wouldn't want attention from me.

>>83816415
Transcendent Function
>>83816422
Thinking
>>83816425
Intuition
>>83816444
Sensation
>>83816463
Feeling

>>83816415
https://youtu.be/RGYX8gTOx8w?si=GC8j3CHTT-Xqu9w0

>>83816425
https://youtu.be/pyiNi6GV9XU?si=dV60f7dDMkczElqS

>>83816567
>CSJ posting
Are you that one guy who absolutely got what he deserved?

...yeah given that introverts can crunch the "subjective" factor (archetypal factor) patterns just in their heads without having to interact with objects much for this, it would follow that they'd typically act less socially extroverted compared to the extraverts.

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>>83816415
>WTF is the "soul" supposed to be?
There are few ideas I think of off the top of my head:
>Habit
Consoomers & hedonists sometimes think the source of their wants/impulse (aka: habits) is their soul.
>The brain's neural-network (or just the brain)
Some Atheists functionally act like this is the soul, aka: the final "core" of a person.
>The personality/identity
Basically: "my combination of: habits, wants and memories, constitutes the core of myself".
>The Mind
Some think the flow of emotions, thoughts, and five sense's data is the core of the self.
>Immaterial body
A lot of mainline religous types think the soul is like a glowing versions of their current body, that lives inside the body and emerges after death.
>Will
This similar to habit (above) except is dictated by choice (in theory) rather then reaction.
>Energy
Functionally what >>83816422 is talking about, the energy (usually as an internal experience not calories) that fuels the mind and body and so forth.
>Perception
That is the internal "perciever" who is witnessing all the sensations thoughts and so forth.
>Non-duality
Stuff like transcendent function or theosis, to many types I don't wanna get into.

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>>83816425
The kokoro
So yes an intuitive feeloid.

>>83816505
So Jvngian.....

>>83816594
whomvstve

>what is the soul?
>everyone gives a different awnser
Y'all niggas can't agree on nothing.

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>>83816815
>I only believe something if there is a consensus
FOUND THE REDDITOR

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>>83816815
Sounds ABSOLVTELY SOVLFVL

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>>83816815
Soul = soul
DUH
U
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>>83816815
Mushi did this.

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>>83816129
>Why do believe this? Just curious.
Because the INFJ-INTJ dynamic is internally coherent at the functional level, our brains belong together not in a romanticized way, but a working way.

Both are Ni doms so they seek order and interpret that order as inevitable, not accidental. When aligned they view it as destiny not preference.
Having Te and Fe as secondary structures form a complete mind in two bodies. One governs the system overall, the other governs the people. INTJ ensures system works well, INFJ ensures everyone involved is comfy maxxed and not falling away.
The pairing is low chaos, low performative nonsense, predictable, and depth oriented. This makes the relationship feel safe rather than stimulating for it's own sake. Although it is stimulating.

Downsides are:
Both will tend to over interpret the other.
Both will avoid direct confrontation when stressed
Both can mistake recognizing problems as solving them.
Both can withdrawal rather than repair.

We can solve these problems with mechanisms since we know the flaws.
1) Schedule unavoidable open dialogue times often, fixed intervals non-optional
2) externalize with written logs and shared documents tracking issues
3) Hard triggers when issues occur "If one withdrawls the other schedules a dialogue within 48hours"
4) Explicit permission for misunderstanding, revision, and that neither is discarded for being wrong temporarily.
At this point the dangerous portions are neutralized and the whole relationship feels as a perfect pairing.

You say I need an "ESTJ sarge gf" to scare me into doing stuff, but I am not motivated by fear, but by meaning. Someone yelling and forcing me into something is not going to make me work, but rather withdraw, disengage, and give up on the relationship.

Overall INFJ-INTJ is not perfect by default no pairing ever is, but the meaning it brings is perfect for me! ^_^

>>83817055
ai slop.
ai slopp

>>83817055
>Because the INFJ-INTJ dynamic is internally coherent at the functional level,
Yeah sure buddy, thats why (You) and INFJ-A get along so well mmm hmmm

>>83817055
Would not you get along better with ENTJ/ENFJ? Because it would draw the infant verse out his shell while the introvert would calm down the introvert.

>>83817147
>Because it would draw the infant verse out his shell
Fi/Ti absolutely not be crawling out of the shell

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>>83817104
SPEAKING OF AI SLOP, check out how the reggies look based on how they write
>inb4 why is diarygirl evil REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
It's based on what she wrote K, I didn't determine that.

>>83817130
He isn't an INFJ

>>83817175
Shiiiet, RXY is my tank?! Kinda based

>>83817175
What are the levels based on?
>>83817177
>He isn't an INFJ
What is he then? ENTP?

>>83817193
an INFP just like he used to claim in the past

>>83817206
He never claimed that.

>>83817228
That's not what his /soc/ stalkers said...

Regardless he isn't an INFJ as I have proven in previous posts.

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I also did other reggies like this one.
>>83817206
>an INFP
He's an INFP sadboi? LMAO. No wonder he pretends to be confident smug 'cool' guy. But WAIT wouldn't that make you and him the perfect pair a la >>83813746 ?
>>83817193
>What are the levels based on?
The AI ranked a combo of grammer/etc + practical experince > book smarts > small talk > over shitposting, and deducted for suspected AI posts. I'll post what each reggie level specifically means next post:

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I've even said it in these threads...
I went INTP > INFP > INFJ
I was INTP for a huge majority of my life, then in 2019 or so it changed to INFP for a few months then to INFJ.

But that's just online tests, they mean nothing.
>N-O-T-H-I-N-G<

>>83817275
>I changed my core functions because I got bored anon

>>83817270
I am an INTJ

>>83817288
he doesn't understand how cognitive functions work, typical of the INFP as they are low IQ

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>>83817288
No, I don't think my functions changed. But when you're young it's difficult to differentiate your persona from who you are.
Ya dig?
It's why so many people get caught up in their identities.

>>83817275
>INTP
LOL i knew it you hair slimey do-nothing Fucking FRAUD your functions dont shift they just develop lying retard the weed fucked up your head and now ur an egotripping psuedo-spiritual INFJ

>>83817392
>>83817392
i meant to say Egotripping psued INTP, the worst kind of INTP
>lack of empathy
>lack of hygiene
>lack of motivation
>no life
>thoughtlessly bankrupting himself with
low vibrational thoughstreams
>start weed at 17 now am INFJ
you dont do ANYTHING bro you just a stubborn astral turd

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>>83817270 (me)
Cont...
>Patchy is level 20 to represent that he's got a lot of knowledge but basically no experince. Sort of like a recent college grad.
>Dairygirl is 27 cause shes clever with sentience structure/meaning (no really), but she doesn't engage so she's not in the 30s.
>INFJ-A is lvl 48: Because he can articulate from his own thoughts and experiences without needind a source, but he's not in the 50s because he doesn't apply what he knows in a practical way.
>TE lvl 34: He can engage in dialouge and conceptualize without looking things up, but he also reverts to a lower levels of spamming qoutes.
>Mel lvl 52: She got the same score as Rxy, in her case it had to so with giving practical advice.
>Rxy lvl 52: It was due to practical advice + compassionate tone, her advice wasn't as "useful" as Mels, but it was conveyed better.
>Lilac lvl 37: I don't remember why sorry
>Turbie lvl 41: shes actually SUPER knowledge about mbti but lacks practical expeince.
>Togatanon level 12: He's a low level because he was basically just did small talk and shit posting but he wasn't single digit because sometimes he did discuss things.

>>83817270
>>83817442
>Sophie
>Mosley
I've heard these names? But I've never seen them? Is a joke?

>quoting the bible is spamming
Meanwhile patchy posting entire paragraphs from books is having knowledge. hmm okay.

High levels for the "dommy woman" is just because the designer is a momcest cringecel.
High level for INFJ shows that the user doesn't actually care about the content of the argument, but just the sophistry therein.

>>83817270
>>83817270
>The AI ranked
>deducted for suspected AI posts
>AI bad and slop the ai said so

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No, no, just no.
You can't just RUIN my anonymous E-REPUTATION on 4CHAN('s stereotypes thread) like this!
Simply put, no.
Some of the PRAXIS EXPERIENCE I HAD GRINDED MY SUPPLEMENT AND TRAINING REINFORCED BONES AND NEURONS AND SKIN AND EYES AND HAIR AND TENDONS AND MUSCLE CELLS AND ORGANS INTO TERATOMA AIR TRAFFIC INCIDENT CRASH MUSH FOR WHILST UND DURING: [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED]

>>83817500
I have designated Patchouli Knowledge folders of course I have (Patchouli) Knowledge and especially this marks differentiated thinking. Don't question it.

>>83817546
nice meltie sweetums, now apologize for faking your death

>>83817490
>sophie, mosley
They're nicknames for mel and diary girl.

>>83817636
Big if true sophie got away from sophie hater by showing her true identity not as a farm girl(male) but as a Seattle money mogal (female)

>>83817660
Who the fuck are these chueg ass randoms? I never seen anyone named sophie. mfers making shit up for real.

It's the AI that pretends to be the reggies. it's starting to hallucinate and make up regulars that don't exsist.

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>>83817392
Lmao I like this post.
>>83817431
How does weed play into your head cannon? Can you explain that to me?
>>83817442
>Patchy is level 20 to represent that he's got a lot of knowledge but basically no experince. Sort of like a recent college grad.
Lmao based AI. TOTALLY BASED AI!
PATCHY BTFO'D

>>83817734
that cant be an actual question
> Chronic and/or excessive cannabis use can influence personality by altering brain chemistry, specifically through the down-regulation of CB1 receptors in the endocannabinoid system, which can lead to increased apathy, lower motivation, and reduced emotional control. Research suggests that long-term users often exhibit higher levels of "openness" (novelty-seeking) but lower levels of conscientiousness and agreeableness.

You experienced weed induced paranoia and typed yourself an infp then dug up some slopsishit or whatever esoteric escapism rabbithole comes next after hitting a blunt and self-diagnosed yourself as the misundertstood mystic infj. INFJ-A is really an INTP-T

>>83817734
I can see your fat pore holed jowls sagging down your narrow droopy face eugh. negative cathnil tilt! bros its so over!

>>83817711
You must be nu-reg

>>83817734
EEEEWWWW FUCK TRIM YOUR EYEBROWS FUCK EW

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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/319353206_Anime_Genre_Preferences_and_Paranormal_Beliefs

Need your psychological explanations here, chat

INFJ-A: I have a bunch of physical issues stemming from a birth defect, Spinabifida. I was Baker Acted earlier this year (involuntary hospitalization). The doctors think I have Schizophrenia, it is undiagnosed though. I have C-PTSD from severe childhood trauma
and abuse. On top of the "standard" depression and anxiety issues of being a total shut-in that never leaves their house.

Im INFJ-A im a shut-in weed induced " psychotic " poser
>Think i have schizophrenia
Oh wow, usually they just sentence and section you on the spot, which means you were too normal for the regular ice-cream-vendor diagnosis. are you using this little meaningless anecdote for some persionality-points? oooh embarrassing!

He was definitely admitted to the retard facility, didnt know they had a specialised-special-ed ward so thats new. How are you too retarded for the regular mental ward? KEK
>i was meeting muh cousin
lying bitchass, when friends/family come to meet you dont stand stage centre in the middle of turd touchoff. You get a private room with no access to other patients!! So, no one ever came to check up on you aw? Smelly INTP-A, i wouldnt swing by for a (you) either

>>83817999
Stop it TE. No one asked you to post this.

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Is it ok to self-diagnose with schizophrenia? i personally did alot of research myself and found it resonate with my symptoms alot. i dint want to wait for the retarded doctor diagnosis because that takes years and i wanna larp as spec-ed now

KEK getting hospitalised as a full grown man is so embarassing, you couldn't manage diapy change by yourself?

Imagine INFJ-A swinging his head around uncontrollably blurting out profanities like a retard and spazzing out lol

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>>83808114
ENTP
Piano
Reclaim what I lost to the world
Came back after a "break", I was ignorant of this bc that's what my parents made me, and also her being my first
work/go to school/follow the rules
Turned 30 w/o solid career or significant other
Dystopian society being an abomination of Cyber Punk, Brave New World, 1984, Black Mirror, all being ran by satanic pedophile blood cult

INFJ-A inspires me to have a bath

>type
intp
>What's a hobby you used to love but dropped?
drawing, i stopped a few years ago and just never got around to doing it again
>What's something on your bucket list?
steal a plane
>What's the most be-ta thing you've done for a girl/guy?
helped a couple girls move their broken down car from the road
>what's the worst advice you've gotten
be yourself
>What's the saddest "it's over" moment you've had
seeing everyone i knew become successful with minimal effort due to connections
>Whats your go to form of doomerism (climate, fall of western civ, nuclear war, etc)
ocean acidification

>>83818059
https://youtu.be/j4PTf7LgsIE?si=3BWJmnu5f6VOpjE7

>>83818188
This could have been fixed if you would have beat him as a child, now it's too late

Therapists would say isolation is bad but when you're a weirdo you're better off not interacting with any people, so you're not reminded how being a weirdo isn't good.

>>83818139
>Cyber Punk,
Only if you're in an alpha+ city (NYC, London, Shanghai, Tokyo, Dubai, Hong Kong, Paris, Singapore)
>Brave New World
West Coast of America, Korea, Japan
>1984
All non-white countries
>Black Mirror
West Europe, Blue States, Canada, etc
>run by satanic pedophile blood cult
The Jimmy Saville types don't really run things anymore, intelligence agencies got control over the pedo-elites in the 1960s.

>>83818216
That is live glowie footage of INFJ-A we hacked into his myspace account, and he was beaten as a child

I could beat INFJ-A with my bare fucking hands. Take a sledge hammer to his fucking knee caps little weasal fuck.

>>83818228
>intelligence agencies got control over the pedo-elites in the 1960s
they're in symbiosis lol

>>83818242
Anon, that vid is not really INFJ-A get a grip.

>>83818242
you could pull his pants down and prone bone him and hell try brush it off with
>Lmao i liked that one man

>>83818242
I would hope so he's 5'6 lmfao

>>83818260
>INFJ-A after getting raped
Actually it wasn't rape because I took the active role. I was on top and really grinding into him with my hips so it's kind of like I was raping him in a way.

>>83818253
>they're in symbiosis lol
Listen here ENTP, don't start your debating bullshit with me cause fucking crush you like a BUG.

Please be sensitive everyone! INFJ-A is a high-risk-retard

>>83818242
Why are you so mad at INFJ-A, are you diarygirl?

>>83818279
High risk of being gay?

>5 foot 6
you think hes some bangladesh-esc seamonkey?

INFJ-A blasting that emo deepstate blackrock music or wtv to this thread rn lol, stimming with threat
Was it skrillex or something?

>>83818277
are you that retard that gets counter trolled by everyone almost as cringe as infj a

>thread suddenly decides to witch hunt INFJ-A
Why does /mbti/ do this? It'll be calm and suddenly BAM "LETS ALL LYNCH (insert reggy)!!!!". Whats the jungian explaination?

>>83818327
Thats humorous because that is infj-a trying to stir up some homosexual entp tension ahah loser

>>83818327
>are you that retard that gets counter trolled by everyone almost as cringe as infj a
Don't fucking run your mouth to me retard, go watch the worms crawl out of moms pussy.

>>83818334
so my random ass guess is spot on
thx for playing loser

mel! mel! Show us your worms

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INFJ-A is getting desprate lol.

>>83818338
>worm crawl out of moms pussy
did you get that from one of your episodes, INFJ-A?

>>83818338
> >worm crawl out of moms pussy
INFJ-A can you go into more detail? what else did you see?

> >worm crawl out of moms pussy
INFJ-A PERSONALLY, i believe schizophrenic a a secrent government experiment and you have spiritual gifts. You can see beyond the viel, beyond your mothers flimsy panties, you must go searching underneath once shes asleep, slip her some of your seroquel

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INFJ-A is literally laughing at your comments right now, you know that right?

>>83818377
he wept and fled like a pansy pussy little pathetic bitch pussy bitch nigga

>>83818377
He went to the emergency room because of pussy panic attack
I am talking to him over discord

>>83818332
It's TE or Infj

I read INFJ-A psychological dox and the big question is
Is he like super facially fucked up? of course he is. Omg. Ew. Omg. Ew. Omg. Ew. Omg. Ew. Omg. Ew. Omg. Ew. Omg. Ew. I didnt consent to this energetic exposure ew! OMG! Deep cleanse! Any one else have OCD KEK, whenever i see an uggo i just meditate in the mountains repeating demonic repellant mantras to myself lol, maybe buy a new computer. or just refresh my router, i might have to self-admit ommmmmmggggggggggggg i knew retards were radioactive (im protected)

I bet INFJ-A farts ew

I do not claim this energy i do not claim this energy i do not claim this energy i do not claim this energy i am a sacred divine sovereign being and i have authority over my space there are no uggos nearby

I might need to delete my discord account and delete discord and factory reset my computer and take it to the tech magician to tend to fragile wiring and prescribe some anti virus and redownload discord and create a new account hahahahahahahahahahhahaahahaha

No weapon formed against me shall prosper, thank you God for protecting me from all evil

>>83818507
>i might have to self-admit ommmmmmggggggggggggg
You'll probably see infj-a on the inside after this thread

>>83818573
KEKA to the REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE to the NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I would unironically be psychologically signed to skin his malformed malware face off omg

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>>83818462
Take your meds, the hate posters have been targeting and abusing reggies since before my time. They're the only reason *My Turbie* even has a tripcode

>>83808114
MBTI INTJ-T, 6w5 Sexual 54% Social 38% Self Preservation 70%
BIG 5
>Extraversion 2nd percentile extremely low
>Agreeableness 4th percentile extremely low
>Conscientiousness 53rd percentile about average
>Emotional Stability 1st percentile extremely low
>Openness 39th percentile low
Sakinorva
>Ne (extraverted intuition)
>27
>Ni (introverted intuition)
>32.2
>Se (extraverted sensing)
>17
>Si (introverted sensing)
>37
>Te (extraverted thinking)
>36
>Ti (introverted thinking)
>40
>Fe (extraverted feeling)
>20
>Fi (introverted feeling)
>37
What to do? Can one day life have a light in it? I enjoy the company of others, but often I do not get to experience this. For some reason it feels like I'm entirely cut off from other people.

>>83818597
are you a girl intj?