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anons who have been both neets and wageslaves, which one was most miserable for you?
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>>83835613
Both experiences are good. When you're a NEET, you can stay home all day watching anime and playing Vydia, as well as browsing 4chan. When you're salaried, you earn money and can buy nice products and services that improve your quality of life; working also makes time pass quickly. I prefer being salaried, but I also miss being a NEET a little.
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>>83835613
Wageslave. I prefer having free time over money until it becomes a question of housing and feeding myself. Money is mostly used to cope with having to wageslave.
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>>83835659
i wonder how common the feeling of "i just want a roof over my head, food and a way to pass the time" is among men nowadays. i've been hearing it a lot but you still see most normalfags are after luxuries or money to spend on girls and such.
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>>83835613
Both suck in their own ways
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>>83835613
Wage slaving is the most miserable for me. I've had jobs that actually paid pretty well, but I hated it and felt the money was never enough to compensate me for the loss of my free time. Admittedly the NEET life comes with a certain difficulties related to lack of financial freedom, but I still would never go back to being a wage slave.
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>>83835613
NEET, definitely. I'm not a person with a lot of interests or hobbies, so having a lot of free time is useless for me. I prefer doing something I know I'm good at, so I can make money and buy whatever I want. Meeting new people is cool too, especially if your work environment is fun.
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>>83835652
I will let you know next week man.
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>>83835613
Wage slaving 100 percent.
You aren't going anywhere in life.
You come home to a shit hole.
And aren't guaranteed savings, retirement money or anything.
It makes sense if you come home to a healthy house. Have goals in mind, aren't mentally ill and are well socialized. Other than that it's just a trap.
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>>83835670
Fairly common in my experience. If men could choose between a 60 hour work weeks, a super car, and a mansion or a 20 hour work week, a single cab truck, and a small house, I think more men would choose the latter.
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i don't mind either but some jobs are better than others, while being a neet is always fun
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How much am I gonna hate myself for becoming a FedEx package handler slave? Will I be constantly thinking I should be doing something else?
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Currently on about a year of neeting, and I hate myself far more than when I was working.
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Wageslaving is miserable
>Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king
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>>83835613
I lasted 4 months working part time and returned to NEETing with a new computer, more gratitude for my situation, and zero shame about being unemployed
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>>83836438
lol that fucking wojack smile
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>>83835613
Wageslaving occupies both ends of the spectrum.
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>>83836450
wageslaving is typically used to refer to low-pay high-stress jobs. if someone's making 6 figures, what's the point of referring to their job in a derogatory manner?
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>>83836471
Because it's a coping term made up by unemployed losers to feel better about their life circumstances by convincing themselves everyone else with different circumstances MUST be miserable and hate their life.
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>>83835613
NEET and it's not even close. If I could just get on disability and just rot, I'd be good. Working is hell. I just can't handle people.
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the bset thing is a middle ground. Was blue collar wagie who had to wake up early and push alot of overtime and a neet, both several times for some years. Both suck, work distracts you from the shrieking emptiness and existential dread, but working up early and having to work for pricks as boss sucks, and neeting is only nice if you have friends with lots of free times and/ or know how to entertain yourself. But 16 hours a day of free time is a lot. So some small part time job would probably the best
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>>83836690
...it's also used by people with legitimately shitty jobs.
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>>83836690
I don't think anyone here is retarded enough to call people making 6 figures a year wage slaves.
That's just called having a job and being normal.
Wage slaving is dead end jobs for spergs that offer no future or savings. Or any point of acceleration. Jobs that mentally ill retards get while still going home fapping and doing nothing with their life.
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>>83836842
>>83836878
There are absolutely some NEETs who refer to any form of job regardless of circumstances as wageslavery.
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I was happy as a neet. Did what I wanted to when I wanted to, always reading or working on a project.
Now as wagecuck I'm miserable and too tired to engage in any hobbies beyond alcohol abuse. Keep begging them to cut my hours back to two consecutive days a week but we're always short staffed. So I have to stay full time and work three days a week. Also it's night shift so I never know what fucking day or date it is. My phone alarm sounds and like a zombie I shower, drive, and clock in before I even realize it.
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>>83836878
Pay doesn't change the fact it's wagecucking. Are you any less of a whore if you swallow 100 loads instead of just 20? If you work for money you are a wageslave. If you're financially independent, meaning you could live the rest of your life never needing another dollar, I guess it's technically not wageslaving. It's just being an absolute retard loser who favors pointless shackles over freedom.
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>>83836690
>everyone else with different circumstances MUST be miserable and hate their life.
Nobody denies there are happy wagies. There were happy niggers out picking cotton for their masters too. It's actually worse if you're pathetic and stupid enough to enjoy it.
>>83836939
You live your life on somebody else's schedule. If you have a boss, you're a bitch.
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Wageslavery has got to be one of the most humiliating and depressing things in existence. Humiliating because you're wearing a monkey suit while getting yelled at by your superiors and depressing because you'll never make the same amount of money the CEO of a company gets in a single shift, not even in twelve lifetimes.
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>>83835613
NEET was far more miserable.
Interacting with nobody all day and watching people on the internet do all the things you dream of doing drove me insane.
Waging sucks ass and I'm not some faggot who cares about "muh life's purpose" but if you get a high paying job it sucks less. Also, interacting with people every day, even lame coworkers, is better than rotting in bed all day.
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>>83835613
NEET.
Some wageslave jobs can be quite easy and fun, but even the worst ones offer some varied excitement and stimulation to your life. You can tell a funny story about how a big black bitch threw up all over herself while trying to return 3 garbage bags worth of clothes, or whatever.

With a NEET it's just the silent crushing existential nightmare of being stuck in some sort of awful time prison where your former friends and people from your life are careermaxxing and/or getting married and having children, even the weird loner kids who were seemingly bigger losers than you back in high school, while you're still stuck in 2014 or 2007 or whatever year you either started NEETing.

Everything you can do as a NEET you can do as a wagie. When you have 18 hours a day of "free time" it ends up being completely wasted on posting and gaming and jacking off and whatever else. You tell yourself you're gonna learn Japanese or learn how to play the piano or learn how to code or learn how to draw or finally get in shape and you'll be lucky spend even spend 15 minutes a day on any of that just to get it out of the way so you can get back to being mad on the internet or grinding away in some video game.

Eventually you wake up one day and you're 30 years old, 40 years old, 50 years old. Your parents are in their 60s, 70s, 80s. Whatever plans you had as a kid or even a 20 year old about how you'll be doing this or have travelled there before you turn 40 are actually behind you now. You're canonically older than Homer Simpsons and all these other cartoon dads and father figures while still feeling like Bart Simpson.
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>>83838221
>watching people on the internet do all the things you dream of doing drove me insane.
I literally cannot imagine this life. Why would i ever spend time watching other people do things?
What kind of activities do you want to watch other people do?
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>>83835613
The best time of my life by far were the 6 months I NEETed after telling my boss to shove it up his ass. I've been back in the cagie since and regret it every day, but it's not like I can just up and leave since I don't intend to become homeless yet.
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>>83838335
Some people can enjoy their NEET existence in and of itself. Just playing some vidya is enough for them. I don't think it applies to most, maybe most humans aren't even capable of it, but they do exist, I've seen autists like that.

Most of the plans I've had as kid, though, aren't even achievable by most of the population. Fact is most guys just grind away at a mid job, get married, don't have kids (not these days) and... most haven't gotten this far yet, those who have lived in much better times. From what I hear it's still a better existence than the average NEET's, but nothing quite like childhood dreams. They do usually involve marriage, but marriages are more often than not not like those dreams.
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>>83838341
I don't mean literally watching some gay "day in the life video"
I just mean seeing people online have families and achieve their goals makes you feel like shit when you have nothing.
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>>83838335
You natural slaves type are really something. Not even human.
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>>83835613
Wageslave. Being NEET (at least in practice as I was officially finishing my master thesis but doing fuck all) was the best time of my life, but I was generously supported by my parents, so there is that, it would probably suck if I was broke. I got a taste of how even not so rich trustfund kiddies live their whole life and am jealous as fuck.
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>>83838504
Do you think you'd suddenly have those things if you had a job and money? What's to sayfou're not just stocking groceries at midnight, driving long haul trucker, sleeping in the dictation room as doctor, or billing 90 hours a week at corporate law office. It's all the same shit, get off work and pound alcohol until you have to get up and do it all over again. Might as well be happy instead of torturing yourself. There's nothing respectable about working a job, it's shameful.
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>>83836471
I meant when it comes to which is worst and which is best. It can be worse than neeting or better than neeting.
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>>83835613
Depends on the wageslave gig. Some jobs like night shift security or gas station clerk basically just pay you to sit on your phone and you don't have to interact with people much, those are better than being a NEET. Most jobs aren't that though, so being a NEET is better. I'd say running your own business doing something you enjoy is the best, even if you're operating at a lost.
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Wageslaving is far worse
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>>83838681
How about you run a business at a loss for me? I'll sell you these cool trinkets from aliexpress for a thousand bucks a month, and then you can stay in the office trying to sell them to others. Be your own boss working 7 days a week.
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>>83838707
But I wouldn't enjoy that.
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>>83838655
To be fair if you're a doctor you should be able to afford some great copes and even retire very early if you really wanted to.
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>>83838480
>Just playing some vidya is enough for them.
Yeah but even Minecraft or whatever starts to get old after 15 years. If you are going to be a video game guy above all, you need more than disability/unemployment.

>>83838601
Brother, if anything people on welfare are the slaves. Just because you call people with jobs "wageslaves" doesn't make it so - it's just the opposite.

You can get fired or quit your job but then you just find another place to work at, or you can also coast on your savings.

As a NEET should you lose your NEETbucks then that's time game over man. You're also typically limited in one way or another, like if you go on vacation or just leave here for any reason for more than 7 straight days or 15 days in a month then bye bye NEETbucks.
Meanwhile the "wageslaves" get 2+ weeks paid vacation.
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>>83838808
I mentioned autists for a reason, they legitimately would not get tired of MC even if they had to play it for 50 years.
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>>83838808
It's almost funny to imagine someone actually thinking this way, but it's just a little too absurd. Like the prostitutes who cope by saying they feel sexually empowered getting fucked in the ass and throat by twenty different strangers every day.
The neet can get a job at any time, he simply chooses not to because his time is too valuable to waste when he could instead collect money from his patron cucks. A neet is on vacation 365 days a year. The wagie gets no vacation, which is why you had to say paid vacation. It's entirely given based on his masters discretion and whimsy. The two weeks are mandated by law. Try asking your master for a year long vacation paid or unpaid and see what he says.
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>>83838808
If minecraft gets old you just download something else, read manga, watch anime, books, film, etc.. There's hundreds of lifetimes worth of media at our fingertips and it doesn't cost a single red cent.
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>>83838808
You just don't know how to game the system. It's not hard to acquire silver, gift cards, cash, jewelry, guns, etc as a NEET and hoard it without the government knowing. Like low IQ fucking somalians just stole millions of dollars from the government.
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>>83838916
>his time is too valuable to waste
Let's hear what your valuable daily NEET routine is like.
Let's hear the tall tales of how you get up at 4AM to do a million push-ups from the comfort of your private yacht or NEET billionaire mansion where you do very real and serious research in the top fields of medicine and history.
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>>83838880
>>83838936
Like I said, to me it's like that meme of the guy sitting at his computer and then he thinks back to where he was 10 years ago and it's also just him sitting at his computer and he starts to cry or whatever.

I love Minecraft, I love Skyrim, I love all sorts of other video games, I love anime and watching movies.
Eventually though playing only 20 minutes or an hour or two of video games or watching just one 2.5 hour movie or 3-4 anime episodes is more enjoyable than playing 10 straight hours of video games everyday and watching an entire 12-episode series in one sitting.

>>83838947
Yeah man you sound cool
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>>83835670
I want UBI and never admit it, but if we actually got UBI I'd never go near a job again ever for any reason.

Let's be honest, money is for attracting women. Get the fancy clothes, the big car, the big house, then get the pussy.

Essentially, we're trading our time for pussy. Time is the only thing you as a human actually "have", it cannot be replenished, it is how you form all of your memories, and once it runs out you leave existence forever.

If you really understood how precious time was, you wouldn't trade it for $15/hour or whatever. It's literally all you have. An 80 year old man would trade all of his wealth for another year in his 20s.
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>>83835613
Here's the thing. Having a job is actually worth it if and only if you can actually get something out of it.
If you can get a job you like then obviously it's worth it to have that job.
If you want to be independent and have a social life and hobbies then obviously it is worth it to have a job.
If you don't care about any of it then yeah obviously it's better to be a NEET.
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>>83835613
easily neet. i hate wageslaving but having money and being able to take care of myself is way better than feeling like a retarded loser all the time
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>>83835652
It's all fun and games until your supporters get sick and/or die.
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>>83838982
NTA but I smoke cigarettes on my porch and sometimes tobacco from my cob pipe and feel grateful that I'm alive.

Ultimately, all that matters is your own satisfaction. If you're a NEET and hate it, its wrong. If you're a wagie and hate it, its wrong. Taking pleasure from the little things and practicing gratitude will take you far. I think there's some chinese proverb about "one who treads lightly travels far". Society wants a very specific kind of person that many don't fit the mold of although they'll try.

I don't understand why everyone thinks if you choose the NEET life you're just doomed to do nothing forever or that you have to start climbing the ladder immediately and grind away until you die for this constant career advancement. I was a NEET for 9 years and the lifestyle eventually gave me more push than pull so I trained as a CNA in under 2 months and started a career in healthcare. 3 years of that and I work now as a travel nurse taking 9 months off between contracts when I feel its necessary.

People reach self-actualization at different ages. Some are gifted with a loving family and start young, some have intense demons to work past and break into industries in their late 30's. I could go further in my field to gain more money but money is the means not the goal and I already have enough to do what I feel is worth doing on this planet. Work is work, NEET is NEET. Happy people are happy people, the only constant variable between the two is you.
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>>83839038
>Let's be honest, money is for attracting women. Get the fancy clothes, the big car, the big house, then get the pussy.
No it's not. Women have been allowed to work their own jobs and careers and have bank accounts since the 1940s or whatever.

The only ones getting women through money alone is 80 year old billionaires who end up marrying a divorcing a 19 year old every couple of decades.
Maybe the whole passport green card meme where incels go and find "real love" by letting cambodians and ukrainians and nicaraguans into their country by getting married to them.

Poor people are constantly all over each other - single moms working two fast food jobs, 14 year old who leave their baby with their 40 year old grandma so they can go out party some more.

Even poverty aside, kids start dating when they're 13-14, maybe 16-17 if they're later bloomers. You're still just in high school and no one has any real money of their own at point. Not where it's the entire selling point of someone on the dating market.

Otherwise you just need to be charming and lean into whatever subculture & lifestyle you want and you don't need to purchase an entire house before you can start thinking about asking a girl out.
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>>83839238
I'm not sure what your takeaway was from that post. Men with high paying jobs are still considered more attractive partners nowadays, and relevant to this thread, NEETs are basically entirely disqualified from dating.
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>>83839319
You don't have entire families of like 5-10 kids with both their parents on welfare in your country?
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>>83839220
I'll add that I think waging is worse personally, I felt fulfilled by NEETing and only stopped because of financial pressure so I choose a career that would eventually let me taste NEET again, even if its not permanent

Its uncomfortable how some get this weird idea that NEETs must pay this blood tax that they do, like waging is some punishment they're suffering from. Or how one of the major goals of waging is just to NEET again with extra steps (retirement). I work with old people all day and I'll tell you that retirement isn't this golden goose of paradise. Many of these people are in intense pain, I think if given the option they would trade everything literally every asset they have to be young and healthy again.
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>>83839220
I quit smoking some time ago, but for me the best-tasting cigarettes were the ones I was having while taking out the trash at work, or when I was having it with coffee outside of college taking night classes.

Just smoking at home was whatever most of the time. Same with smoking weed.

>If you're a wagie and hate it, its wrong.
Yeah but then you have 17 year olds kids who work at a shitty fast food place for 3 months and then they assume that all jobs and all careers are all like that forever and always.

but really my beef was with the anon talking shit pretending that his time is precious and so much better than anyone else's, while people with actual careers are the slaves wasting their lives
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>>83839362
That happens in your country?
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>>83838335
Ahh, delet this
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>>83839461
Not as much as in other countries, point being is that poor people fuck like rabbits. The rhetoric of how you can only date women after making over $USD 750 000 a year is all nonsense. I was dating girls when I was still asking mommy and daddy for a weekly allowance of like 10$
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>>83835613
NEETdom. I feel useless if I don't have a wage and it becomes a downward spiral where I just want to shrivel up in my bed and die.
It's not even about making a lot or little money -- it's about having purpose through work because I'm not creative to be an artfag.
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>>83839558
Why are you mentioning that hyperbole again? Yes, poor people and teenagers do in fact have sex and you do not, truthfully, have to make a million dollars a year to have sex.
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>>83835613
I had some good years being a neet. I started working on my health and even entered a sporting event. I remember making my eggs and bacon, walking in the park, traveling around by bus and going to the shopping mall in the middle of the day. Actually the best memories are when I met people and did stuff.
Bad parts were when I had to move back with my parents, it was good for a bit but they started sometimes screaming in the morning to get out of bed.
I remember doing weird stuff like spending 5 hours fixing a radio that was only worth $20, now I'd get a new one straight away.

>wageslaving
the only free time is that 2 or 3 hours after work, I force myself to stay up because it would be nothing but work otherwise. I save 85% of my money because I still almost live like a neet. I'd really rather work 4 days a week but they won't let me. I now have fuck you money, if they fire me I simply don't care.


>>83838380
there was a couple of years where it was peak neet for me

>>83838335
when I had to do work for the dole I think for 3 days a week the 4 days off would go by so fast. First day sleeping, 2nd day start doing something, by the 3rd day annoyed because half my days off are already gone and it feels like nothing left.
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>>83837128
>You live your life on somebody else's schedule
You live your life on someone else's dollar. You are the bottom bitch. You are welcome for being allowed to live today.
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>>83838982
Even in your ultimate fantasy you can't think past wagie shit like worshipping an alarm clock, cucking for completely worthless medical bullshit, combing through falsified history tomes, or chasing fake numbers. I was going to mock you but this is just sad now.
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>>83839832
>You live your life on someone else's dollar
That's exactly what you do by waging. A subservient bitch doing his owner's every command like a little bitch.
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>>83840141
Even if I concede that point, I only do this for a small portion of the week. Then I get superannuation, 6 weeks a year paid leave, sick leave, bonuses, and training incentives. Now I own a house, get to work from home and bully retarded incels on the clock.

You live 24/7 on the charity of others, either too retarded to be useful to society (pitybux) or unemployment bux where you're expected to still do something and they'll kick you off at any moment. The best part is knowing that even normie cattle can have what I have, it doesn't even require special skills but you can't even do that. You fail at making it to the level of a dumb tik tok zoomer who dances in the office. You live your entire life at my, and every other person's, whim. You're welcome.
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>>83835613
slaving is absolutely worse it's worlds apart too, there can be no comparison.
it goes like this. you will immediately know that what you're doing is fucked up once you get that first job. it just doesn't feel right, physically. but you will be really excited thinking you're going to turn your life around. you're going to be a responsible adult, make money, and get a gf, etc. well spoiler, you're still a loser, except now you also have a soulcrushing job, congratulations.
the only upside is you get to be self reliant and independent, perhaps. what is that really worth though.
if you had enough money would you waste your life on some bullshit job? don't be ridiculous
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>>83835613
>What's most miserable, being a free man or a slave
Jeez dude, I dunno, very hard question... Just look at those happy slaves using their limited life time to follow someone's else's orders
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neeting is a grind in of itself in its own ways, and always being broke is very demoralizing

wage slaving can have its benefits not only monetary

having done both I cant really choose
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>>83835613
being a wageslave.
the best balance is to be a seasonal worker who NEETs half the year and works the other half.
Both the jobs i'm going to get are "seasonal" so to speak but i'm going to be a NEET for a long time before then
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>>83838655
Protip: lawyers who bill 90 hours typically work 30 hours.
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>>83839025
I have a supposedly extremely high-flying tech career and not the usual forever-junior SaaS retard crap many are stuck with, which makes me the 1% of the 1% when it comes to luck about my job situation.
Maybe once or twice every 2 months I think about the time I was a NEET and I miss it every minute.
There are maybe 2 ways I could respect someone who actually likes waging: either the waging is in a job where you have pretty much complete freedom within a domain that forms the basis of your entire life's goal from the days you were a child (and even then your colleagues and bosses would have to be cool people or else even that's not enough, not to mention job stability is always a question mark), or you have successfully founded a startup that is now stable enough and soon entering the scaleup phase (why this specific point in the journey? Because after that it becomes a kind of corpohell where all you do all day is jockey spreadsheets and smooch up to people who no longer really matter (at the startup stage, everyone you talk about is super interesting and exciting to talk to)).
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Being a wagecuck. I've only had short periods of layoff, and it was the best time I ever had.
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>>83839220
It doesn't make sense. Waging is by and large involuntary and you don't usually choose what you wage in, with whom, etc. It also steals time away from you being able to do what you want.
NEETing, though, lets you do whatever, including making your own work.

So if you hate NEETing for any reason except not having money to spend, you are objectively defective.
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>>83840617
No, you don't get a single one of these things. You really should work at least once in your life to see how miserable it is because you have some bizarre ideas about it.
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wage slaving in a bad work environment is tourture, everyday I came home I'd sedate myself into a stuper, also used a bunch of drugs to cope at work. In a good work environment it's much better than being a NEET. Being a NEET is fun for a while but if you don't have great self dicapline its isolating, depressing, anxiety inducing and awful for your health.
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>>83841918
I don't fully agree but I like the overall way you put it. You will notice there are "if's" on both sides. The difference is that in a wagie position, the "if's" are totally out of your control, while in the NEET position, it is all about you personally and entirely within your purview. Isn't that interesting?
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>>83841909
>you should really work at least once in your life
>literally at work right now
Anon, you need to get a better cope. Or stop being retarded.
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>>83842255
>feels superior to others because he has a "job".
>said "job" is so important he can spuff his employers time away shitposting on 4chan.
Back to work wagie, time to contriboot to a society that hates you like a good little goy.
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>>83842781
>feels superior to others because he has a "job".
Low IQ failure take. I'm not superior because I have a job, I'm superior because my labour has value and that value allows me to support myself and my family without being a degenerate parasite. Rotting away in a bedroom of your parents house isn't a rebellion against a pozzed and retarded society, it's a pathetic and slow suicide that nobody will ever be aware of. Go make something of yourself, faggot, and then you'll actually be able to have a family and create a small pocket in the world where things aren't gay all the time. You can have good things and make good things if you just stopped being scared of success. Love you, retard.
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>>83841895
>So if you hate NEETing for any reason except not having money to spend, you are objectively defective.
this about sums it up
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>>83835613
NEET was easily the better time for me. Idleness is my natural state of being.
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>>83842871
>Go make something of yourself, faggot, and then you'll actually be able to have a family and create a small pocket in the world where things aren't gay all the time. You can have good things and make good things if you just stopped being scared of success. Love you, retard.
I don't think you belong here. I don't mean it as an insult or anything. people here we are fuckups, and born that way. there is no amount of waging that would change that. forget self improvement, or any other recourse available to the average human. some people are just losers. winning the lottery wouldn't make me stop being a loser.
you wouldn't get it and that's fine
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>>83835613
neet
>No money, negative respect, horrifically unappreciated the free time, no friends
I'm not really a wageslave, I have an "ok" career and while I'd be poor as shit if I had a kid or a mortgage I never worry about bills/spending habits
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>>83842900
>I don't think you belong here
Shut the fuck up retard. I came to 4chan in 2006 as a loser and was here when this board was first created. I had the same fears you probably do. I NEETed for a decade and at the time put myself into debt to continue to live that lifestyle because I didn't want to work and I was afraid if I applied myself I'd fail. As time passed, I began to fear more that if I applied myself I'd succeed and all my previous fears just amounted to lost time. I think the latter fear was true.
I don't subscribe to fatalism. A shitty childhood and major social screw ups do not doom someone to being a permaloser.
>winning the lottery wouldn't make me stop being a loser.
Of course not. You still think that materialism defines who you are. This is why I said
>I'm superior because my labour has value and that value allows me to support myself and my family
>Go make something of yourself, faggot, and then you'll actually be able to have a family and create a small pocket in the world where things aren't gay all the time. You can have good things and make good things if you just stopped being scared of success
None of this is about having money, buying things, or flexing on people. It's not about what you have, the things you can buy, or your job title. It's about creating something that has value to you and to others.
>I don't mean it as an insult or anything.
I know you don't, which is why I'm trying to encourage you. I've been here a long time, I NEETed, I had a lot of fears. Having seen both sides I'm simply repeating things I wish I knew sooner, maybe it's worthless to you and if so I'm sorry for having wasted your time in reading this.
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>>83842943
well I'm glad it worked out for you anyway
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>>83843207
And why not for you
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>>83843242
what do you think? ugly and mentally ill
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>>83843256
What do your looks have to do with it? Not wrong about the mental illness though
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>>83835613
>which one was most miserable for you?
Working. When you work you have to tolerate retards and interact with sex-havers and get bullied by them. NEETing is peaceful though but it can fuck you up if you isolate yourself at home. Being a NEET is superior if you spend time doing your hobbies and going outside for example going for inceldrives or hiking etc

>>83836438
>zero shame about being unemployed
no pussy no shame

>>83835652
you can be a salaried NEET you idiot
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>>83836332
enjoy getting your manhood tested retard
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>>83835613
Wageslaving was worse
Not because of the work, but because of the lack of work.
No matter how fast I finished the work, I would still be confined to the office for 8 hours.
Rotting at a desk for hours on end because someone literally owns your time fucking sucked

>>83836332
depends on personality
You will be doing an important job that keeps you active, so it might not be too bad for you.
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>>83842255
You have never had a job. You should try getting one to understand what having a job means. Protip: your big dreams aren't a thing in real life.
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>>83835613
I'm not even a wageslave because I live with parents and am debt free, so I get to save a lot of money.
But yea, having a job is the most miserable, by far. No amount of money helps when the bulk of the hours you spend being awake aren't yours. I'm only working so I can afford to buy back my NEETdom forever as early in my life as possible. My job isn't even horrible, but I still hate it because I compare it with the 8yrs of near-NEETdom I had after high school. I was simply much happier and whenever I get 3 weeks off for the winter holidays, I get a small glimpse of that happiness, before I return to the wage cage for the rest of the year...



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