Intelligence isn't the result of "hard work" or "free will". So what's the point of insulting or complimenting people for it? That's like making fun of someone for their eye color. This is borderline racism.
>>83836656That's why insulting someone's intellect is meaningless. We don't expect anything from the cognitively impaired, so why imply that someone is incapable of being held to a high standard in the first place? Correct insults target the person's skill instead. Your skill level (not innate talent) is something that you're actually responsible for and therefore can be shamed for.
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yes it is, iq is not a thing. Intelligence is exercised, like a muscle
>>83836685Go to Australia and make Martin Bryant score 130 in an IQ test.
>>83836685What part of the brain does "the choice to exercise your brain" come from? Because if it comes from a part and has an origin then it's not a choice.
>>83836677I'd argue shaming both innate talent and skill is useless in a vacuum. Shaming is purpose-built behaviour for the goal of correcting shitty outcomes and potential outcomes>unemployed autist man has turbo retard tendencies due to nature and nurtureNot worth shaming>as a hobby, man tries to build things but is shit at it due to poor skill and lack of skill developmentNot worth shaming>at work, man is on my team where we build things together and his incompetence makes me do extra workWorth shaming>man has a job building bridges that could hurt people if they collapse due to his incompetenceDefinitely worth shaming
>>83836656>Intelligence isn't the result of "hard work"The manifestation of said intelligence is, all thought requires effort
>>83837331Who would you rather have as your doctor/pilot. A "hard worker" or someone naturally talented?
>>83837784Do you think a North Sentinelese with 145 IQ and excellent mental faculties all around would be a good pilot on the spot? Or would you rather be on a plane flown by the absolute dumbest, most barely-qualified pilot that is currently licensed?
>>83836685Go become a genius then
>>83837798Both extremes are shit choices.
>>83838053No, you'd obviously be far better with the shittiest qualified pilot than someone who's naturally talented but has zero qualification.
>>83836656Hard work itself is also largely environmental.It still makes sense to praise and shame people for it, as it's a way of reinforcing societal values. People are shallow and complimenting their behaviour (especially as children) gets them to repeat it.If your coworker finds a clever solution to a problem it might just be because they grew up rich and went to a private school, but it's still worth telling them good job so they do it again.
>>83837784lol no one is born a doctor. there's no one who's naturally talented at flying a plane.What IQ does is actually filter out people who can't go through it
>>83836656People don't compliment the imaginary number in your head that 4chanites like jerking off to, people compliment or insult your ability to use your intelligence depending on what you do with it. It takes hard work to raise your intelligence but not a lot to lower it and it takes even less effort to not bother at all with studying/discovery.A high general intelligence (this includes WISDOM, APPLIED ABILITIES and ACADEMIC PROWESS, NOT JUST "IQ", which is just measurable cleverness) is definitely the result of hard work; a life discovering, learning and testing without taking easy ways into senseless hedonism. What people really praise is potential. This is why you can be a 150+ iq genius but having nothing to show for it except fapping all day and schizoid rants make you just as much as a retard as jamal the nigger who opens bottles with his forehead. You have low potential so you are laughing stock.
>>83836656Because, despite everything intelligence is always the most important trait without exception. Society, language, technology and everything else around us exist because of human intelligence. So by insulting someone's intelligence it is attacking the most fundamentally important quality a human can possess.Now I agree that it's very mean to do this because intelligence is *partly* genetic and we shouldn't be mean to people because of their inborn traits. But that is also why its a insult that gets under people's skin. It's like calling someone a midget or nigger or so on.So when you put those two parts together it becomes a very common and effective insult.
>>83836656Yes youre starting to realize modern normies are slaves, with inversed senses. Uncontrollable features are free game, while controllable features are beyond reproach
