MBTI doesn't demonstrate your "le heckin unique personality quirks" like redditors and first year psych students pretend. Its a measure of character flaws. Each letter has one that is objectively better than than the other (except F vs T which is mostly meaningless and there for vibes). Your MBTI profile shows you in what ways you need to improve your character. E vs I: Being introverted is OBJECTIVELY BAD. Being able to communicate openly with other people is essential to the human condition and if you're unable to do this, struggle with it, or consider it a chore, its something you need to fucking develop, not a cute personality quirk. S vs N: 'Sensing' signifies you go by facts and data. You use systems that work and you live in reality, not by vibes but tangible reality. Not doing so is how bums stumble through life, with big dumb ideas that fall flat because they live in fantasy worlds. J vs P: To be judging is correct. "Nahhh bro I'm just not a calendar planner type man. I go through life at my own pace" is what drug addicts say. Plan your life and help plan for people around you. You need to be an anchor people can rely on. Spontaneity feels cool and fun but living your life like that is a sign that you're still mentally a child.
>>83852411here's your character flaw: you think your subjective judgement of things translates to objective reality because you lack the brain power for basic PoV swapping.dire(that being said MBTI is almost as useful as astrology, you're better off doing a big 5 test.)
>>83852421It does translate to objective reality. If you enjoy the companionship of other humans, its objectively better in every way than being an introverted autist. It opens doors never thought possible, gives you memories beyond jacking to anime on Cambodian papercraft sites. Same for the others. If you're sensing (S), you know how to organize yourself right and can be depended on rather than being a bum who "lives in the moment". There are good ways to live and there are degenerate useless ways to live.
>>83852411>le heckin unique personality quirks
>>83852411I believe everyone should have an MBTI permanent record.That little INFP phase isn't going anywhere fast Mr ESTP, we've tied it to your checking account.Oh you have a wife and kids? Then perhaps you ought to be honest about your personality history.
>>83852470>There are good ways to live and there are degenerate useless ways to live.Only if you want to live that way, nta but I've tried to mold myself into a empathetic person who could enjoy the company of others but nothing brings me as much dopamine as jackhammering my dick while high on weed, or lying down back down while high on opiods. I can't envision a future worth giving those things up in exchange for the approval of people that not even a month ago looked at me like a stray dog with no provocation, It's not a quirk, you and I are fundamentally different.>its something you need to fucking developDo I? the bigger the city the easier it is to make it with little to no social interaction, money quantifies the value of your work so you don't need to convince anyone of how much they should pay you, the bigger a corporation becomes the less you have to interact with it, it becomes a faceless system. >You need to be an anchor people can rely on.Why? which people?>help plan for people around youNot for free.
>>83852411It seems this bait was crafted specifically for meAnyway you are basically the reason the world is a terrible place to live in and I don't like you
>>83852411MBTI is persons compatibility chart.It founds who would be dog vs cat situation when put in the same room.That is its main prediction and application.Finding whats personality and traits are "best" are mostly pointless. Because besides character there is also performance (IQ, physical traits) not accounted in MBTI.
>>83852411Being introverted doesn't mean you're incapable of "communicating openly" with people, just means you either prefer being alone (something inherent that you can't change).I vaguely agree with your SvN point, but both kinds of people are necessary (just not in politics and leadership positions lmao) as S is essentially the trait of creatives.JvP is entirely subjective and doesn't mean you are unreliable or don't plan for the future. I'm a "P" and while I never ever make calendar marks or do things without considering their consequences, but I have no problem keeping track of commitments and am always on time. Also, no one can plan for the future concretely more than a week or two, and even that much only comes down to chance.
>>83852647The thing with performance is that managers prefer hiring people that are enjoyable to be around than hyper-intelligent autists. Thats why they do interviews and not just a fucking written exam + past experience. They're gauging your personality too. And besides competence isn't intelligence alone. Its also the ability to manage yourself, manage your time, cooperate, help others, being decisive and punctual. These are all clearly represented on MBTI, meaning even though yes its for business, it shows who is the best at working.
>>83852509INTP and INFPs should have automatic monthly social credit deductions until they improve one of the letters.
>>83852725HR rat
>>83853090Swat him with the almighty mouse trap.
OP is a hylic sensoid coping.
You're not trying to get away from me, are you, Anon?
>>83852411E vs I: Being extroverted is OBJECTIVELY BAD. Introverts have time and time again have demonstrated higher cognitive standards and richer internal worlds. Being extroverted means the mind is incapable to internalizing thoughts and acting autonomously. This isn't something that can be developed, but a lifelong mark of being average or bellow average normalcattle who is constantly following the herd. In fact, if you take the herd away from the extrovert, they begin to panic. The NEED social life like they are still stuck being ANIMALS.S vs N: 'Sensing' signifies you go by what's apparent in reality. Sensing means you use simple causal systems and stick to reality, you don't have the ability to conceptualize novel ideas or system because they don't (yet) exist in reality. Sensing is the easiest way to mark a normie. Stuck on the plane of reality, never abstracting, never ideating, never exceeding their Earthly existence in any way.J vs P: To be prospecting is to be normal. "Oh no my calendar and daily schedule is all out of whack because I spent 5 more minutes on a task" is what someone with a SEVERE case of autism would say. If you exclusively rely on plans to keep your day together and can't do freestyle, you're nothing more than a young adult who just learnt how to use a calendar. Avoiding spontaneity looks stoic and adult-like, but it just shows an rigid person. Imagine navigating a city as a tourist. One person goes off the route and explores, eventually gets to their destination. The other person is consulting their map every corner and immediately gets lost when one of the roads is closed due to construction. One is normal, the other is neurotic.
>>83853219Intuitive literally just signifies the presence of higher cognitive function. The funniest thing about OP is ExSJ types are exactly the people who excel at normal life, but don't have anything else going on up there. They don't have big ideas or motivations. But at the same time, they think that simply complying with sets of procedures and regulations makes them the pinnacle of all humans. Anyone who has more complex thoughts is by definition incomprehensible to them.E - social conformityS - intellectual conformityJ - personal conformity
>>83853562Your big brain thoughts aren't useful. They'll forever remain unshared, unused, forgotten even by you soon. Higher thought is only worthwhile insofar as its used to benefit your family and community. You'll come up with something you consider useful and if by some miracle it escapes your mouth to a normal person's ear, you'll be met "huh interesting. what are you basing that on?" before you mutter about your dreams and he walks away.
>>83853723INTPs make great scientists.INTJs can be good at almost anything. INFFs have great spiritual capabilities and can even create new religions.ENTJs are potential Caesars.What do ESXJs do?
>>83853723Small brain thoughts never moved the world. Also 'thoughts'. Not 'thought'. I know it's hard to imagine this for some people, but others have their brains constantly buzzing with thoughts from the day they gain consciousness to the day they finally lose it.>huh interesting. what are you basing that on?"You are doing the "but what's the source" meme. Of course there are some ideas without a more concrete base. In fact, I'd even argue the position that all morality and philosophy is ultimately arbitrary. Even if they are rational, there is an original axiom somewhere. Proof is left as an exercise to the reader. I've noticed this happening a lot in academic settings. People who struggle with abstract topics with no apparent grounding (say for example higher dimensions in linear algebra) tend to dislike abstract topics and get worse grades than those who don't. Please tell me how will a 42 dimensional matrix will help my community? Mathematics might be the greatest counterexample to your point. You can't sense a proof. There is literally no benefit to meander about whether infinitesimals exist or not to your family or community. Yet without it, Newtonian (let alone modern) physics wouldn't exist.>Let's say that for a function we draw a range around a certain value in the codomain. If we keep shrinking that range, will range around the corresponding value in the domain continue to shrink until infinity?>What does this have to do with facts and reality? What do you mean "until infinity" anon? How are we supposed to manually evaluate that in a sense that it fits within my perception?You can cope that intellectual exploration in the abstract plane doesn't have immediate value in reality, but in truth this argument misses a crucial point. We CAN do that, you CAN'T. Being restricted to small brain thoughts IS the issue, because any utility derived from them is happenstance, not an achievement of work.>inb4 OP is a ultrafinitist
>>83852411so what would be the ideal personality type to have in your book going off your theory? ESTJ/ESFJ?
>>83852411Cool. This is an interesting point.Anyways, there's no way to radically change the way we are (like a person who gets INTP readings switching to ESFJ in their lifetime), so if true this would mostly be useful as a way to turn MBTI into an "undesirable person radar/honeypot". No use in being ashamed by a "wrong" reading. Every society produces their rejects anyway. >t. INTP-T ("-T" as in the bad result for the fifth metric they added)
>>83854900The idea that MBTI would anyhow be an "undesirable radar" is stupid. The wealthiest man on Earth is an INTJ with Asperger's.