>Type>What's your biggest pet peeve>What's your favorite YouTube channel>What's your favorite ice cream flavor>What's your favorite guilty pleasure>What are you most nostalgic for>What's something that instantly improves your mood>Sakinorva testshttps://sakinorva.net/functions>attitudinal type/nu-psychosophyhttps://www.attitudinalpsyche.com/take-the-test/>16 personalities (the best test)https://www.16personalities.com/>MBTI test (don't screen cap your IP btw)https://jupiter-34.appspot.com>Jungian types tl;drhttps://wikisocion.github.io/content/psychological_types.html>Big 5https://www.personalityassessor.com/big-five2/>paste your old messages and get typedhttps://www.uclassify.com/browse/g4mes543/myers-briggs-type-indicator-text-analyzer?input=Text>Associative MBTI/Jungian testhttps://watchwordtest.com/wtitle2.html>Turbie-Wurbie's Cutesy Test Link Compilation! UwU:https://web.archive.org/web/20231220103736/https://pastebin.com/QK0uSJaTPrevious: >>83847179
First for Erika and Erika.
>>83862475You SOB Minto-chan was supposed to be first.
>>83862499Skill issue, you forgot the part where I do Jungian speedruns.>wdymSome dumb LLM-generated AU where typing speedruns are a thing. Genuinely one of the most entertaining things I have ever prompted.
>>83862518Damn inf Si-gga not realizing people won't figure out he's referencing the OP pic meme...>>83862454The pic is really a minds-eys-let one.Also, we absolutely had those questions before.
>>83862475Are they the same type? Only know the one from Umineko
>>83862475Who is Erika and Erika?
>>83862475Nazi song Erika playing in the background
>>83862585Your two fat ugly lesbian moms. You're an adopted Jeet and they raised you without gender norms so now you're now you're sociopath pedo. How does it feel pedo -kun?
>>83862576>>83862585No.Erika(Heartcatch) is ESTP/ES(T, most likely.) Thought F at first, but on a second thought she is kind of a dick who causes feeling misunderstandings. Plus her feeling judgement looks like this:Erika(Umineko) is ENTJ/ET(N) she is pretty much Ange(ISFP/IF(S)) flipped backwards.
>>83862585https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2DZzyeni6I
U niggas r supposed 2 answer the thread questions. So ANSWER THEM!
No one responds when I answer.
>>83862454>TypeINFP>What's your biggest pet peeveI have no idea. Probably just all of capitalist society in which everybody runs around doing pointless work to distract them from what is really important (love and belonging and acceptance and harmonious existence with each other and nature). Just the pointlessly self destructive nature of people but not in the good feeling way that people self destruct sometimes.>What's your favorite YouTube channelI also have no idea. I have hundreds maybe even 1000 subscriptions at this point. There isn't any one that I watch religiously. They all have their place. But probably some deep artsy essay channel or a channel that's just random found footage and home videos from the 90s or a channel that helps me learn social skills and act like a normal human or a channel that is just fan edits or memes or YTPs or a gaming channel for one of my favorite franchises.>What's your favorite ice cream flavorCoffee or tea flavor of any kind is always #1. Runner ups are mint, melon, something floral like rose, or Taro/Ube.>What's your favorite guilty pleasureI'm not guilty of any of my pleasure even though according to some haters (read thinkoids and sensoids) I should be guilty of most of them. I suppose the typical romance where the love interest is pathetic/crazy/some variety of mental illness fits the bill.>What are you most nostalgic forEverything pretty much. I'm nostalgic even for the way the past used to be bad and the different ways I used to feel bad back then.>What's something that instantly improves your moodSentimental compilation videos about media properties. I don't even have to be familiar with them. I never watched Gilmore girls but the edits still go hard. Also MBTI stuff but NOT this thread because everybody here HATES me just for existing as my natural born type.
>>83862701please be FEMALE (male) in LONDONONDON
>>83862679Ok since you asked.>>83862454>>TypeDumb memer apparently>>What's your biggest pet peeveI have at least one for each context, so idk.>>What's your favorite YouTube channelBit of a casual to YouTube, don't even use an account or make comments most of the time.>>What's your favorite ice cream flavorChocolate>>What's your favorite guilty pleasureTake a fucking guess.>>What are you most nostalgic forThis one is easy actually: back in HS I had a group of frens and did LAN parties together, along with other fun things like watching anime of course. I really fucking miss that.>>What's something that instantly improves your moodCute anime girls and sappy songs.
>>83862454This faggot keeps stealing my cognitive labours.
>>83862739What does that even mean? Is this some discord drama I'm unaware of?>>83862687>No one responds when I answer.What are you the Joker? If you're dying you think people would walk over you? Get some self esteem, you're pissing me off you emo.>>83862701Thanks>>83862732Thanks>Take a fucking guess.Gooning to trannys?
>>83862800>Gooning to trannys?No, using magical girl toys to beat my meat of course.>inb4 wait did she reallyShe's a Se-groid, what do you think?
A cognitive labourer's union just assembled outside my house!
You are going to stay in the subterranean astral labyrinth and you are going to psychoanalike it.
>>83862454>>TypeINTJ / IN(T) 5w6 583 sx/sp VLEF>>What's your biggest pet peeve...>>What's your favorite YouTube channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@MukyuuFM>>What's your favorite ice cream flavorWhatever.>>What's your favorite guilty pleasureAsceticism.>>What are you most nostalgic forJungian Umikeko hijack of /mbti/ lol.>>What's something that instantly improves your mood...
>Your type>When a situation/relational dynamic requires extra effort on your part in the form of elaboration/clarification to progress or be maintained, which conditions prompt you to pick up that slack? Which conditions incline you to disengage entirely? Which conditions incite you to deal with the disconnect or communicational impasse with aggression or other drastic measures?
>>83862887>I don't even understand what this is asking so I'm ignoring it
>>83862725>tfw you get to disappoint anon
>>83862875>Jungian Umikeko hijack of /mbti/ lol.Funny you say that because the reason for why I kept getting reminded Umi was specifically browsing the archives and finding these threads.Also lol at the connection between T.F. and magic because, technically speaking, the VN did go there if only in the sense of bringing up the 5th element as one of the things that gets called "magic" and also "Love".
>>83862887That's to complicat for mbti, you need to make it dumbed, like:>Who has the more blown out anus a tranny or a roasty?That's the level people here can understand.
>TypeINTP>What's your biggest pet peeveModern slang, I feel disgust.>What's your favorite YouTube channelI don't really know. I rarely what YouTube these days.>What's your favorite ice cream flavorStrawberry.>What's your favorite guilty pleasureIt's a secret I won't share.>What are you most nostalgic forMy middle school friend group and the stuff we used to do.>What's something that instantly improves your moodSpaghetti.
Also mentioned before, but the idea of a guiding principle was particularly useful.If you observe a Sensation main, you will have to assume all the other functions are guided by it. So Thinking generally becomes practical and empirical, Feeling becomes aesthetical (in the sensory sense) and about showing it through gifts and so on, Intuition due to its strong opposition to Sensation must be kept as a basic sense of suspicion that only exists to prompt you to observe more facts, not to actually start to speculate, only "hey I'm missing something here, idk why I feel that, now let's look at more stuff then".
>>83863034bruh imagine being this pressed over words you're literally just mad at vibes for real
>sensation mainlike it's smash bros lmaooo
Analysis Bros Melee?When are they nerfing Freud? There's no counterplay for the "ur mom lmaooooo" Side+B
>>83863114You contradict yourself. If what he's really mad at is vibes and vibes are all there really is, he's no different from you or I or anyone! >>83863014My questions going unanswered with integrity intact is far preferable to making myself palatable to shittastes and shitforbrains.>>83862911When someone or something essentially requires you to explain or defend yourself, when is that worth it for you, if ever? When does that just make you wanna dip instead of clueing in the clueless, projecting, or of bad faith? When does it make you wish you were legally allowed to murder bad/annoying people with your bare hands? Have you ever opened a can of whoop ass on a motherfucker who felt entitled to force you to substantiate your humanity?
is curefag the sexiest reg ever
>>83863195>When does it make you wish you were legally allowed to murder bad/annoying people with your bare hands?please strangle me daddy. I was joking. I understood the question. I figured you made this post because a certain poster keeps bothering you seems to never understand what you're saying. Meanwhile it felt refreshing when a different poster was able to understand you so clearly. As you make it so clear it can be very frustrating to deal with situations where you feel you aren't being understood. Being misunderstood isn't fun and it sucks to have to deal with someone who never understands you.
1+1 = 1. Because if you add two items they become 1 thing. You don't count the components and atoms when counting a thing. You count the combination we call a thing.
>>83863195>Body-centered Sensation >MindThinking >Heart Feel-- hah no it's Intuition. You tried. But "feeling the truth" means intuitive grasping, it says nothing about rapport!>Spirit This one is actually Feeling as per Jung. Rapport actually mentioned.
Actually there's an ez hack to actually identify an IN(x) type for real and yeah, anonzzle is one after all. I'd argue habitually ambivalent in auxes though.Of course the typing hack is visible only from introverted intuitoid level and it's rather mundane and human.>>83863164Deleuze's Deterritorialization is instant and the hitbox outranges it by 20 pixels so it's balanced.>>83863114Jung debunked the vibes. Look it up.>>83862943I wanted to pull that off in the Christianity convo last thread. I'd rather discuss Jvng though...>>83862701>everybody here HATES me just for existing as my natural born typeNo, it's because this is a vitriolic cesspit. Your type is valid and you're valid too! This is just spoilered text. Real cesspit though.
>>83863245>Jung debunked the vibes. Look it up.Claiming vibes are scientific is the easiest way to troll reddit. You say something like:>Vibes (aka chemosignals) are a vital part of resonance theory and have been proven to be accurate to within a 86% ratio in multiple studies.>Redditor: bullshit. SOURCE?>link goatse or Mr hands vid.Works. every. time.
Thinkoids are the easiest people to troll:>Patchy: falls for the most basic trolling.>Mel: is extremely gullible and naive.>TE: just disagree with him and he loses his mind.And these are the threads "thinkers". Ironically the feelers are smarter. I don't understand how these people can be smart in a technical sense but also dumb AF.
what is "trolling"
>>83863418>what is "trolling"Being an annoying cunt and thinking that mildly annoying someone means you've dominated them emotionally, but in reality you're just cringe.
>>83863474what is the supposed domination and how it can be also emotional
You don't get to be a type when you're a host of a possession.>>83862943Now that I think about it, I prefer when Jung called it fantasy and not T.F., because I can warp that into fantasia and it sounds cool and has great etymology.>>83863235Plus is excessive. The ones are already together, we're not blind.11=1Actually do we even need this as an equation?11 1Too verbose.11Too verbose.1Too verbose..Good enough.>>83863195>picIs this hoemath channel content again?>>83863305My favorite is>>?????>trolled
I feel milton Friedman is INTP; strong Ti-ger internal logic over feels stuff. Aux Ne is CLEAR in his ideas like the "voucher systems" and negative income tax. Shadow Te in his efficiency obsession in debates, while inferior Fe "meh" attidue toward negative social impact.Meanwhile:CArl Marx is 100% INTJ. His ideology/religion is dominant Ni centric with aux Te his obession with production. Tert Fi explains his moral outrage.Point is modern Capitalism vs Socialism is a battle betwen INTP and INTJ.
niggas act like there isn't intermittent latency to the DID. you sure like me when i was she, Nigger
There's some-me for everyone! Nobody, well... That's who I give my realreal 2
>>83863164Just don't get hit. He needs to charge it by consuming cocaine, and the long "smug cigar" recovery animation means you can follow up easy. If you're dying to Freud's SideB you're just bad. What you really have to watch out for is his "4000 eel maelstrom" down air.
Dunno on Friedman I haven't read from him.Marx may've been IN(T)/INTJ but he absolutely switched into full thinkoiding roughly by the time he started to write Manifesto/Capital. So IT(x) as a commie.The point is he went into seeing value as some intrinsic ontological thing rather something made up for convenience. So as an archetypal logical concept, to hell with implications or actual systematization. Arguably same Type Problem against reality as Hegel.The moral outrages on child labor and even spinal issues were uhhh dry factual for the narrative.Still less disingenuous than Hegel structurally pulling off a "uhhh actually all the loose ends and inconsistencies in my thought so far are patched up by God, ok? No it's not for our mortal eyes." But more retarded. Marx absolutely knew Marx was being retarded but he fell for his own grandiose archetypal inflation mass societal momentum.
If ANYONE is 100% of their neuroses 100% of the time they end up dead or rich, dumbass. What makes someone untypable to you (plural) ((specifically)) (((ilk))) is your refusal to acknowledge that when they say, "You don't know me." and you continue to interpret that THROUGH the lens instead of acknowledging it as call to SET IT ASIDE FOR A SECOND and then lens is "This is a shallow, one-dimensional, caustic person and whatever human decency I owed them by default they have been disqualified from" which makes aforeparaphrased "You don't know me." sound much more like >I AM NOT A WHORE I AM NOT I AM NOT NOT NOT! YOU DON'T GET TO SAY THAT ABOUT ME BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW MY STORYYYY!which, again, says more about your chosen Game Reality and all additional lacks thereof. The real translation is, "For what's it worth, for Jung's sake, projecting your own type-gatekeeping to accuse me of being objectively untypable or not knowing my own type reliably doesn't un-make me an INFJ. Peace." (You) [singular], I would exchange fiat currency to see the look on your face every time someone assumed one of your posts was mine. A handful of salads I tossed years ago are still carrying as you wank in their shadow you fucking transvestite
you aint white and you sure as hell aint an infj ese
BUT I'M NOT MEXICAN EITHER
>>83863245Deleuze mains have it easy...>typing hackWait no cheating allowed.>>83863785Was trying the DownB "Archetype Counter" but the timing messes it up, guess sometimes it's better to just dodge instead of going for the integration bnbs.>>83863588Without the Transcendent Function it cannot be seen.
>>83863782>Desert picturesHmmm. Sus. Verrrry sus.
>target The Troll>[collateral]...can you not? I'm supposed to have a grim time here. Thanks!>>83863939>Deleuze mains have it easy...The damage meter automatically builds up exponentially 1 second after you stop any buttonmashing.
https://voca.ro/19SNwTyQ5H1HSpiritual secrets contained wherein?ThereinThyin, evenThouin, peradventure
>>83864038Interesting that you chose a tree, cause, you know-Tree of life, tree of knowledge of good and evil, you know....Kind of like, a tree house containing the tension between the two.Who is to eat of the tree house, who is to penetrate the fleshy exterior of the tree house?
>>83862454>>TypeESFP-T>>What's your biggest pet peevePeople who are excessively selfish. >>What's your favorite YouTube channelUsed to be Jenny Nicholson, now I'd say it's a tossup between Ze Frank and Let's Game it Out. >>What's your favorite ice cream flavorMint chocolate chip. >>What's your favorite guilty pleasureOverindulging in sweets. >>What are you most nostalgic forMy friends from dance school. >>What's something that instantly improves your moodMy ESFJ and our friends. >>83862679Done.
Let's see...Inf S => N hypostasis, no auxes?Ok but reference is to T-ing. Aversion focus is on T-groiding.Technically, ... Extravert focus, but T aversion.Understanding of T is extraverted, only.Conscious access to T is exactly extravert style..........>>83863880Nope, that's EF(N) type of post here.Typing people is neither a friend simulator nor magic.>>83864118If there's anything typological, could we get a transcript? Some don't want to pause their tinnitus. Thanks!
>>83862160>>83862561>Why does Christ exclude Asians and Middle Easterners?He excludes no one. Messiah was Middle Eastern, born in Bethlehem. The Gospel began in Judea and spread outward to every nation. It addresses a universal human problem, not bound by culture. What differs is each person's response. John 3:19 - Light came, but men loved darkness.>They're condemned by being born Hindu or Buddhist.No one is condemned for geography. Everyone is judged. Every person has a conscience and moral awareness, and truth is brought to them all. God judges by works and response to the truth not by skin color, gender, tribe, origins. Father is not a respecter of persons. He loves those that do His works and loves one another.>God made it harder for some.The Way is narrow for everyone, it's not easy for anyone.Read this story. Matthew 19:16-30Even the religious struggle to enter, being born Christian doesn't mean you'll find the Way.Buddha, Krishna, and Psychology offer paths to self-realization.Yahshua, Christ Jesus, makes a claim about reality.Buddha says you can escape suffering with knowledge.Krishna says to align with the cosmos.Christ says you're guilty of your sins, a slave to them, and unable to break free, but He will die in your place and save you.He is not just another teacher. He brings the verdict and holds the pardon. He is God, risen, promising resurrection and eternal life. This cannot exist alongside reincarnation. One is false. There is no middle path.>Free will would make me equal to GodFalse, Free will is moral agency, your ability to choose right or wrong, not sovereignty over space and time. Scripture says "you are Elohim" sometimes though Psalm 82:6, but that's a deeper conversation.Your issue is not culture or fairness. It is authority.You've seen Him. Accept His judgement and welcome His mercy.
>>83864322>Scripture says "you are Elohim"You'll make people ask "So why care?" if you bring that up.>Every person has a conscience and moral awarenessPeople raised by animals as children don't have that.>the WayOriental heresy. Fuck off and shut the fuck up Satan
Ok gotta make this quick.>>83862454>TypeENTJ>What's your biggest pet peevePeople who complain constantly, they're draining to be around.>What's your favorite YouTube channelI don't have a favorite.>What's your favorite ice cream flavorMint chocolate chip>What's your favorite guilty pleasureUm, bath bombs.>What are you most nostalgic forNothing. I guess I like the 1980s and 1960s, but how can you be nostoglic for something you didn't live in lol.>What's something that instantly improves your moodPetting an animal.
>>83864260It's only typological if you agree with Jung (you don't).(Everything that deals with the tension of opposites is Jungian)[Everything] is typological>>83864322I see Te is back to Ai slopping all over the thread again with reckless abandon and no consideration that the perspective he's putting forth might be the very perspective he critiques. Hm...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csO9ZNuqiMY
>>83864406>Mint chocolate chipGood taste. >I like the 1980sI want neon clothing and tacky plastic jewelry to make a comeback.
We should- no.What if we- nahh.......Ok, S check, T....N check, T....S check, F....N check, F....>>83864428Could you pretend to not be retarded? Your auxlet Fegroid existence just said that AI slop is typological! But AI can't even have a type. No thank yous here. Instead you can stick a microphone up your ass and record it again though, it'd be very Jungian.
>>83864490Ai do not generate without a prompt.Prompts are generated by people.People have psyches.Psyches have types.Ai slop is typological.Check mate in 2 moves. As usual.
>>83864431> tacky plastic jewelryJust go to claires. Although you bring up an interesting point I've been looking into: What constitutes a "80s" futurist type era. And they some preconditions:>they follow turbulent eras of shit economy, inflation, high prices, social unrest, division, and radicalization.>new technologies creates an economic boom>people look to the future and this is were the aesthetic comes from.The 3 previous are the-long-80s (1979-1992), the-long-50s (1946-1963), the-roaring-20s (1918-1929). Zoomers like to claim 2002-2013 fruitger aero was another, but it's not, it was actually a decline period but since it was better then today zoomers cling to it as their golden age.So my point is, the NEXT one. We are in the turbulent era, and robotics/AI are in their infancy so my guess is the 2030s will be the next futurist economic boom era. It won't look like the 1980s, it'll be it's own thing, but I'll be interesting.
If you love TE so much that you elevate him to having a type despite him being a possessed primitive, you should court him. The retardation and faggotry are a perfect match.
>>83864689Wha? I was posting about the 1980s. Don't come at me with your homo projections. go "court" TE by yourself homo.
>>83862454Apparently IN(x)>What's your favorite guilty pleasureThat's an odd question, if you think about it.>What are you most nostalgic forOddly, i don't feel very nostalgic for anything, not anymore at least. Snow, maybe. Small things like that, i suppose, not much that can be well put into words. Truth be told, i didn't have much to be nostalgic about in the first place. Regret, however, is in me like blood. Sometimes, at times such as these, it can be mistaken for nostalgia, though it's really quite distinct.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqW-kvU5cLg>>83864118>cause, you knowKudzu.
>>83864730nta, he was reply to INFJ-A >>83864667, he though he was being clever by not giving him a (You) but he timed it wrong so you thought he was replying to you. This is why not linking to who you're talking to, or at least qouting them stupid.
Or you can intuit who they're talking to by reading their post instead of being a retard.
>>83864761She's just an idiot. Still, it is petty not to (You), and supports the sick idea of (You)s as a currency.You're also an idiot for bothering to correct her, and i'm an idiot for reading this thread at all.
Now you all see how the thread is really like...
>>83864779>Or you can intuit who they're talking to by reading their post instead of being a retard.The odious is not on me to play guessing games with reg drama. If you don't make your post clear that shows YOU'RE stupid not everyone else.
>>83864827Only you assumed it was about you. Everybody else understood the intent.
>>83864842>I can't clarify who my posts are aimed atYou need realize being clear in your intent is actually a sign of intelligence, not the opposite.
Dude you're mad at nothing calm the fuck down.
>>83864882HAHAHAHA patchy made you seethe without even trying LOL
>>83864916You have to be 18yo to post here
>>83864689Even primitives have a type, Even POSSESSED primitives have a type, you'd know this if you understood Jung beyond mere conceptualized theoretical, psychological hoop jumping rigamarole understanding. Psychic order is universal, it doesn't evaporate simply because you dislike the personal order of someone's psyche. >>83864761>and supports the sick idea of (You)s as a currency.Treating (you)s as currency is cringe. But that's not the only way/reason people don't give (you)s. But the other ways are a bit more difficult to explain.
>>83864882>I can't tell who I'm aiming my posts at
>>83864322Notice how the wicked seethe and scream refusing to touch the content but instead attacking me.It's no surprised because they hated Christ before they hated me.
Actually, me not giving (You)s is a reference to a certain subculture I had read about.What type puts microphones up their colon to "troll" others, btw?Every mental case of deliberate suicidal retardation clearly should have a healthy psychological type somewhere in there if you probe their brain with metal to course-correct them towards good holistic vibes chungus salvation, after all... Merely trepanation and some scraping there n there... We can't drop any possible links of understanding even if it means sacrificing some failed linker's brain matter in the process,>>83863195right?Hands must be gotten metallically dirty, as a form of communication, to truly alchemize the essence out... Mmm~Ghislaine Maxwell was apparently into Jung, so if one could time travel, one could just clarify that some things are EXTRA un-Jungian to do... It's this simple... Once everyone will see their truths in lives, they'll drop everything in their current lives because their current lives absolutely weren't sharpened by any introspection so far whatsoever... Only latest prompts to introspect bring the realest truth and only when you identify as introspection prompter then you can be truly sure... It's all fixed.
>>83864322I've spent a lot of time sharpening my language skills to make my messages clear and valid.My process to something like this is>write out a long thought out response>run it through ai for fallacies, inaccuracies, places where I'm needlessly hostile or unhelpful >proofread final edits>postI can do no right because you hate me as a person, whatever bro you're stuck in your emotions, and frankly I don't care. If you want me to listen to your emotions pay me, I'll listen all day.
>>83865194>>run it through ai for fallacies, inaccuracies, places where I'm needlessly hostile or unhelpfulYou'd stop posting
I went to a subreddit I will not name, so they don't get excited, that screen capped some of our posts. I'm not mad, but I do wonder why can't they make original content? And the discussion in comments is the same phrases repeated by dozens of people: "username checks out, so much this, take my upvote sir and get out" et cetera. It's like some weird insectoid hive mind.
i thikn its very cringe you didnt name the rubsettid
>bi-weekly check-in>Unhinged Narcissist lilac randomly sperging out againlol. Truly never gets old
>>83862454>Type INTP-T>What's your biggest pet peeve If you offer something out of politeness and you think the other person is being rude when they accept the thing you offered, you're not actually being polite, just trying to deceive people into thinking you're generous>What's your favorite YouTube channel Maybe Kitboga, but I usually rotate channels when I get bored>What's your favorite ice cream flavor Probably nuts>What's your favorite guilty pleasureEating late at night >What are you most nostalgic for The FNAF games golden age. Was all me and my friends would talk about.>What's something that instantly improves your mood My dog
unlike you huh krissy
I can't even read or watch shows too much otherwise my FI gets so overwhelmed I want to scream and dieI had to go and cut my nails just to decompress
>>83865000>primitives have a typeEeeh sort of?Jung connected extraversion/introversion to the animal kingdom, so technically it's possible to type a dog without that being too much of a leap. My dog is introverted and I used her to explain introverts successfully (guard dog, barks at unknown objects by default if they get close to me or the house, becomes friendly once reassured the object won't misbehave, acts reserved but absolutely doesn't want you to leave permanently, she just sits near you but doesn't interact).Functions are where things gets blurry and Jung said the typical primitive has no such a thing as a differentiated function, at very best they might have a very slight lean on one, and an inferior function that's more obvious than others, but it's difficult to call it a real habit.
>>83864898The children are fond of working themselves up into little tantrums
Claude on Umineko:He isn't wrong but did you have to say it like that. It's fundamentally a Trickster and Magician story where you keep seeing how these two blend in both humans and witches(Battler played both roles, Beatrice too) in archetypal terms so, yeah.
It's unbelievable how rent free I live in some of your minds. To be both parts never seen and never unseen
Clavicular isn't neurodivergent. Why does he lie that he is?
How about you start paying rent then?Both you and the rest of the collective unconscious, Patchy reminded me how all these archetypes are just freeloading in literally everyone's mind, fucking commies man.
Lots of people claim to be things they aren't.
I'm resigning as thread tertiary character and occasional shitposter. Most of you won't know who I am, so I will keep this short. It's been a pleasure /mbti/ throughout the years. I've enjoyed myself immensely. Found friends, lost friends, the highs of new threads and the lows of no threads at all. But it's time I take a step forward in a different journey. I wish you all the best and plentiful /mbti/ threads ever after. Goodbye.
>tertiary characterAnon chill, you will get some differentiation when I'm done with refining the other aux.Now I wonder who would be the thread's inferior function... "INFJ-A"? What's usually considered the evil and retarded one, but might ultimately be the one to stumble upon some big Jungism/socialfaggotry revolution?
suck my dick everyone i hope you all enjoy slurping semen you god damn mbti faggots you never fail to amaze me with your jungian psychology bullshit, what has it ever given you besides pain and misery it is not condusive to leading a fulfilling life it's all just a buncha mumbo-jumbo, yes yes true as it may be in some instances it does not produce the necessary results that would lead to great achievement no no it is merely a time sink waste of time blowjobber
It gave me a very clear path of integration.Start from conscious attitude and main function, move into favored auxiliary and start dropping into middle realm, reach out to the other auxiliary and move even closer to the center, and now you can finally molest your inferior function and the opposing attitude instead of letting it molest you. One that I could relate very well to my own type once I figured which one it was.
Hi guys. I'm making an addendum to MBTI. here are the new type descriptions:INxx : Weird guys who think too much and jerk off to futa pornENxx : GodISxx : Nonchalant sigmas who don't gafESxx : Retard normgroid zogbot epstein golems
>>83867204>INxx : Weird guys who think too much and jerk off to futa porn>>think>look inside>INFP>ISxx : Nonchalant sigmas who don't gaf>look inside >ISFJ>ESxx : Retard normgroid zogbot epstein golems>look inside >ESFP is too scatterbrained to pay taxes or leave shops without accidentally shoplifting from every section >ENxx : God>look inside >ENFP is stuck in a modern washing machine in an abandoned WW1 bunker that wasn't even visited ever since it was built
>>83867204>INxx : Weird guys who think too much and jerk off to futa pornFair enough, but thinking too much is CUTE. The futa isn't cute though... why not /u/fagging instead?>ENxx : GodThey might think to know everything or control everything you can possibly(intuitively) grasp at, but actually no they don't. But they absolutely are God complex bait.>ISxx : Nonchalant sigmas who don't gafHmm based?>ESxx : Retard normgroid zogbot epstein golemsI don't want to say is true but they really play into the stereotype, until you probe them for answers and then people(or even themselves) will just think they must be mistyped because clearly Se-groids can't think and if they produced a thought that's not attached to immediate reality/society values they must be using something else, surely.
>>83867204Addendum 2.0INTx: Weird guys who think too much and jerk off to futa pornINFx: They didn't have a fatherENTx: GodENFx: Attentionwhore energy demonsISTx: Nonchalant sigmas who don't gafISFx: They didn't have a father and they're retarded ESTx: Epstein policeESFx: Normgroid monkey lobotomite matrix pod goop eaters
>>83867244>>ENFP is stuck in a modern washing machine in an abandoned WW1 bunker that wasn't even visited ever since it was builtBut is she still alive
To the eyes of the dog their human is forever young
Wish mirrors had dog-vision then.
>>83867380SHE? Did you just presume a sex merely from some unisex behavior?>picThat's not accurate for a type. A sensor can switch to fantasia, too (Myers-Briggs would seethe, but Jvng... Jvng will applaud. A standing ovation, dare I say).The first pic describes basic seeing, not perception.>>83867435Never too late to puer aeternus-maxx and turn into a botox freak bimbo full of taurine and antioxidants!
>>83867454>SHE? Did you just presume a sex merely from some unisex behavior?All ENFP are strictly female or mistyped ENTP(or ISxJ having a Nana moment) until proven a dick-owner.
>>83867454>The first pic describes basic seeing, not perception.Oh also, yeah if you take it very literally it sounds like the different between reality perception and immersing yourself into fantasy. But with the concept of sense impressions being psychic contents rather than equivalent to the sense-activity itself, and the intuitive letting those fall in the unconscious to focus on an image received(but not casually daydreamed or active imagine'd) by the sense-activity, it would be about right.Now if you asked me whether the writer is aware of all of this, or they mixed being a scatterbrain with being an intuitive type, I don't know. Correlation kinda exists to be fair, not forming sense impressions consciously leads to memory-holing facts and produce no (conscious) thoughts or feelings related to the facts themselves even when they are right in front of you. Not even very reductive ones, just straight up none(in consciousness) because these aren't purely sensory activities.
Activities can be typed. Walking is, in fact, different from sitting.The activities each can have types, too. Power walking is different from limping, even if overlap is possible.This wouldn't account for whether it's intentional or not, & what are the (in)intentions, at least for the typist that's not probing for biomarkers. But typology of walking is not concerned with that, even if this can be probed.If a walking person does NOT consent to be categorized as a walking person while everyone are busy & doing traffic, how many times it's allowed to let them be run over until an objection is brought up?Social & life behavior can be typed. Psychosophy/attitudinal psyche type is like what's a magnet & what's a repellent for each category, but I'd say rather in preferences than in habit, even if preference may shape a habit. It's surface level in terms of typing, but can run a little bit deeper in terms of what's shaping up a psyche.Psychological Types (and maybe MBTI) are based on CONSCIOUS habits, maybe bordering on dependence. The extreme observer/external typing form of those is vultology. And it'd be legit for its domain. None of any typology types or typings are anything special unless you're some specter that has no observable concrete or abstract signaling to categorize (if it's signaled with any payload, it is already categorizable). So, with the PT at deepest you'd need optional inference and PoV shifts, just to speed the typing up.Enneagram types with the loaded fears and integration drivers are based on the previous two, in effect. So in wing and to a bigger extent tritype you could probably guess what the person is trying to switch their PT to most often. Not in terms of persona, but in terms of mindset switch of sorts. Enneagram instinct is more tied to the psychosophy type given the whole, I think.What is this about?It's a fun parlor game for anyone, that's what~Especially preventing people from being run over~Such dumb guilty pleasure~
>>83867589>Activities can be typed. Walking is, in fact, different from sitting.The absolute quality of 2026 /MBTI/ discourse, ladies and gentlemen
>>83867435You're young a beautiful to me anon
>>83866710Habit is something you can break off from consciously, in one way or another.That is.Would you differentiate between archetype possessions of a dog? Nah, better question.How would you have your dog access the transcendent function and individuate?>>83867613So far those are just thoughts aloud.If I were to have to use that as a discourse argument in /mbti/, chances are, I wouldn't get an inter-discourse consensus formed... lol...>>83867531Actually in my previous post I wanted to say that even same multi-typology type stacks, "even" in complete Se-groids, can shape up different perception-systems as they're seen in experience including whatever impressions (absolutely a part of perception as a whole), but I had gone completely off offtrack to some other system of argument points.Plus, I notice we're not differentiating between intuitoiding and daydreaming huh...
>>83862454Test wuhwnei
>>83867589Holy Battlerism.Though sure it's true enough, you could type anything you wanted to, but it would only lead to better understanding with the context of conscious and unconscious attitude. Jungian typology wants to avoid Type Problem'ing itself as far as possible, so you gotta be careful both at the external side of the personality(the behavior) and the internal one(the intention and awareness, roughly speaking). Merge those two, do it over time to avoid fixating on a temporary state(like complexes, social demands, pavlovian reactions etc. on both sides) and you got the full picture.Though sure, it almost feels like a guilty pleasure to only type things and people for the sake of, until we get in the context of setting integration paths or explain the Type Problem itself(or basically what Jung did).>>83867700Which means, you are a dog?>>83867728>"even" in complete Se-groids, can shape up different perception-systems as they're seen in experience including whatever impressions (absolutely a part of perception as a whole), but I had gone completely off offtrack to some other system of argument points.Fair enough. If the sense impression was a 1:1 representation of concrete reality, then actually we aren't speaking of a complete Se-groid, we are speaking of an undifferentiated sensation. That does make sense in the context of the picture being written by an intuitive type, because their sensation would be in that state.
I heard that in Guantanamo Bay interrogation camps they get terrorists to talk by forcing their eyelids open and showing them patchy's dry, rambling MBTI monologuesI can't even force myself to read these posts
*AHEM* I have no psychological functions.I only have daydreaming and executive functioning.>but feeling and thinking?Same thing. I'm just rationing according to the system of relevance. You could make countless more rationing opposites here, in theory, as there are countless systems of relevance. You basically only need contextual awareness.>but sensation and intuition?Do you sense your intuitions, or do you intuit your sensations? Well? Which perceptions aren't actually daydreamed when you weren't paying attention?>>83867751>Jungian typology wants to avoid Type Problem'ing itself as far as possibleYeah but it's only via the use of Transcendent Function, which is for therapy, not for typing. Actually.As a typist, you WOULDN'T want to interact with the typee. Why? You might interfere with the experiment by accidentally evoking Transcendent Function and so you won't be able to type out the type as it was when you had set out to type the person.>>83867764They should send me donations since their handlers should know my e-wallets.
>>83867801>Yeah but it's only via the use of Transcendent Function, which is for therapy, not for typing.I know you don't mean that, but associating T.F. only to therapy is grim as hell. People can just do the T.F. moments with enough save state practice.>what did he mean by thisGetting better at a micro-context that would require all 4 functions and both attitudes to have some degree of balancing could technically be practiced. Then you can reflect on its macro implications and suddenly Jungian typology has revealed itself. Let's not look at the "skill" itself, and more at the unconscious contents related to the activity you keep repeating, if anything because the brain will get tired of always thinking it through the conscious attitude. So like, if you play the same 30 seconds of a game over and over again, at first you register the intuitive/thinking contents(say, the most optimal routing you can grasp at), then eventually the feeling contents(would you feel happier if you won? wouldn't it be cool to tell everyone you did?), then finally it is time to become aware of what were the sensation contents(consciously register the movements that lead to the expected/desired result, in the moment right now and as exactly as possible). Don't deflect any of this to another person(so don't watch a replay to copypaste unless you care more about the achivement than the mental/physical journey) to not delegate your inferior function, and your T.F. moment now looks like a 1cc achieved. It was brief, it did not require to flip your entire type, but it was there.That has to be the biggest inferior Si-groidism I have ever written lol lmao. Kokoro would be proud, Battler too I bet.
The stench of reality has become unbearable.
The stench of MBTI troons has also become unbearable
>>83867920>but associating T.F. only to therapy is grim as hell. People can just do the T.F. moments with enough save state practice.Okay, and this could be used by the typist too, agreed.>Getting better at a micro-context that would require all 4 functions and both attitudes to have some degree of balancing could technically be practicedWaaaaaaaaaaait a sec. T.F. is about uniting opposites to get something NEW. Aren't you just imagining the type you're trying to figure out? And then once the T.F. psyops you with a big enough reification (fueled by law of laziness, outlined by Jung btw) to fool your functions, you're content with a basically imagined type as the result - especially if you rapport-check with the typee to psyop them with the momentum from T.F.>So like, if you play the same 30 seconds of a game over and over againI don't quite get what macrocontext you mean past this point. It's "How T.F. would work and how to self-type given that T.F. might work, for those who are out of the loop?"Anyhow I wouldn't even guess my type by gaming since meta-qualia checks are unreliable, and because each genre and scenario has own metatactics of sorts, and you'd just want to pick out from catalogue of techniques and approaches (own or borrowed) like a peak MBTI Si-gga. And this is probably just VLxx of psychosophy speaking right now probably.>>83867994Clean your room, bucko.
Let's see... I'm a feeloid sensoid that earns bread by competitive gaming.If this is an FPS I will TOTALLY not strafe aim prefire even though I know it'd be useful If this is a Minecraft type game I will TOTALLY not stack raw materials near their corresponding processing nodes If this is a 3D combat game I will TOTALLY not move in spirals even though I know it'd be useful If this is danmaku I will TOTALLY not stream even though I know it'd be useful If this is soulslop I will TOTALLY not roll into an attack to hit the attacker's back even though I know it'd be useful If this is a tactics game I will TOTALLY not use the cover and terrain even though I know it'd be useful Anyhow typing in microcontexts of these is possible, to conduct a meta review typing, but it's just insane at this point.>>83867999Clean your room, bucko.
Farming patch for (you)s
>>83868003>T.F. is about uniting opposites to get something NEWExtravertoidally, the 1cc replay is new in your video folder.Introvertoidally, the mindset resulting from it is also quite new in your head.But once that's done, technically the T.F. state is considered over, I don't think it can be truly permanent imo.>Aren't you just imagining the type you're trying to figure out? In this context I wasn't trying to figure out any type, that was given as a fact to use as example.>I don't quite get what macrocontext you mean past this point. The macrocontext of what has happened there was the unification of the opposites(conscious/unconscious, the attitude, the functions etc.) and a temporary state of full "meta-awareness" of your typological functioning, not as mere theory, but as experienced reality both within and without yourself.>"How T.F. would work and how to self-type given that T.F. might work, for those who are out of the loop?"Solely for the purpose of self-typing via a T.F. moment, I think all you can do here is trying to spot what belonged to your conscious attitude, so for instance the fact I seemed to engage naturally and differentiately with the routing aspects, trying to map a rough path to reduce as much risk as possible, this activity seems to involve a lot of (extraverted, because the game is an external object) intuition and thinking, especially since it's very rough and not a literal straight line through the stage. And on the flip side, I later became aware of my feelings(now that's going introvertedely) about it, eventually you ask yourself "ok why are I'm doing any of this anyways?", and sensation came at the very end (in a very concrete way of noticing little details to improve the routing and in-the-moment execution, because it's inferior and I will not become a Si-groid for reals, but the awareness of what's going on in the unconscious side of the personality at the same time in a given micro-context was a certified T.F. moment)
>>83868076>but it's just insane at this point.Works on my machine.There again, we have different machines.
why do I see the same autistic anime fags here
Everyone else got integrated by raw NT-fueled speculah.Also don't forget, japanese media glazes the shit out of Jung, an animefag has seen these themes over and over again, and eventually might trace back the sources.
Jvng and Gurdjieff should have linked up.>>83868180>But once that's done, technically the T.F. state is considered over, I don't think it can be truly permanent imoWait a sec, T.F. isn't a flow state per SE, no?>I think all you can do here is trying to spot what belonged to your conscious attitude, so for instance the fact I seemed to engage naturally and differentiately with the routing aspects, trying to map a rough path to reduce as much risk as possible, this activity seems to involve a lot of (extraverted, because the game is an external object) intuition and thinking, especially since it's very rough and not a literal straight line through the stageSo an assessment "I might not pull it off to consistency squeeze between that conical bullet stream so I'd rather stream to the side" would be introverted then? What functions let me put a sound sample in my mind's eye so I can account for timing for a wind-up action that has to be done precisely given 3D movement of 2 objects?>>83868088It has a 1:1 jannycoin conversion rate!
Think there should be a lot more emphasis on the fact that the funny example above uses inferior Introverted Sensation of the Extraverted Intuition type, it is not trying to describe the actual IS type. *Their* Si does not go much beyond the concrete and the MBTI-tier descriptions, but the true IS niggas see this as rather banal, holistically speaking.>>83868289>Wait a sec, T.F. isn't a flow state per SE, no?I consider the concept to be similar(in the sense that, it's a temporary state where you are aligning yourself to the fullest perception of reality you can grasp, both outer and inner, through all 4 functions), but actually calling them the same thing definitely leads to some huge issues(who's to say the task you are perfoming requires T.F. state for you to simply have the right perception of its difficulty and be skilled just enough? In other words, approaching MBTI-ism if you take it very literally and make it about a specific behavior connected to a specific activity without looking at how it matters from the subject's typology)>So an assessment "I might not pull it off to consistency squeeze between that conical bullet stream so I'd rather stream to the side" would be introverted then? Ironic enough replying to this right after claiming it's better to avoid MBTI-ism but let's say yes, the idea appears to have been cross-checked introvertdely, and with a previous idea that probably originated in the same way.>What functions let me put a sound sample in my mind's eyeSupposedly a very intuitoid interpretation of a sense impression but>so I can account for timing for a wind-up action that has to be done precisely given 3D movement of 2 objects?And then it just returned to Intuition>timing>given movement in spaceYou left the realm of the static reality of a sound, now it's dynamic in time/space, getting interpreted as a transitory state as opposed to "appreciated" on its own as it is right now, and thus intuitive.
>>83867751>Which means, you are a dog?https://youtu.be/zmXkzqEG87U?si=hsfj7p7liLlnX1ZeI prefer "Clintonesque"
https://youtu.be/RuEzBmeEuDs?si=QEpGiUvBDpxB6EYyPANTIES!!!!!
>type>type you love the most and why (can't say your own type)
>>83868580>typeINTJ>type you love the most and why (can't say your own type)INFJThey make me feel fuzzy and warm and I love Ni doms :) INTJs would be good, but there is not such thing as an INTJ girl or and INFJ boy, so INFJ is the best since I'm a boy and I like girls
All this stuff almost made me forget an episode is up.Blaming literally everyone involved, including Patchy, TE, Jung, and even these random shitposts in-between the walls of text.
obvisusly my amv posts made you member so you should say thank you dear sir, you are so kind and good for the economy
>>83866710You've drawn a false correlation.Having a type does not mean that you can be typed. Differentiation of a function merely means that the ego has built a relationship with said function. If the person in question has not built a clear ego boundary, what constitutes the ego will shift from day to day, or moment to moment. Which means the ego would lack the ability to define itself clearly, and thus lack the ability to define itself with a function as well.That does not mean the function itself does not have a place at the forefront of the structure of the psyche. Even undifferentiated archaic primitives under the spell of archetypal possession and in the mist of participation mystique have a type and a dominant function.When someone is attempting to type a primitive, what happens is the observer of the primitive projects their own attitudes onto the primitive. They will effectively be typing themselves, or more likely their own unconscious.
>>83868738ok marxist
>>83868753Okay, [insert some random political alignment that you disagree with].
>>83867728>Would you differentiate between archetype possessions of a dog?Somehow missed thisAhem anyway, not quite sure dogs experience archetypes, or at least not in the way described by Jung. Biggest reach you can make is that the mechanism of introversion and extraversion are way more primal than that.>How would you have your dog access the transcendent function and individuate?If they could individuate, they wouldn't be relatively primitive lifeforms now.But of course the real answer is translating PT in dog-speech and let her become aware of the T.F.
Any anons who know how to live better? I can't for the life of me figure out a way, taking cognitive functions into account, how to make my system work in a harmonious manner with society, life and so forth. I want to increase the ecstasy in my life. I want my life to be like a joyride that never ends, but to do that I feel like I must alter my behavior with the science of type. One could potentially, bearing in mind these sorts of things, turn oneself into a literal G0D.
>>83868828It's very simple, anon. Build a relationship with yourself.
>>83868842That sounds very fluffy and hippie-dippie. I'd rather take a left-handed and psychopathic approach to finding the ecstasy. I want to make certain calculations that will bring about the ascension process. Or alchemical process. something like that. it's not psychopathic necessarily but agendaic.. not fully-duffy love yourself new age stuff....but im not saying ur wrong. it's just that im not in that particular kind of mood
>>83868865left hand path* (is what i meant by left handed).
>>83868865Good luck with that, it doesn't exist. Unless you want to go smoke crack and die homeless.
>>83868738Take one and leave.Erased a 2000 words reply because hmm nyo, but I wanted to tell you about it.
>>83868918okay, i'll build a relationship with myself, it was a good message, and i'm just in a BAD mood so i couldn't be receptive enough... >__<
>>83868922>I disagree with Jung on a fundamental levelI know. You don't need to tell me. You're anti-Jungian (onionian), just like Patchy.
>>83868580INTJ / IN(T)Probably uuuhhhhmmmmmm... IS(T) and EN(T) and IN(T) (I'll mention whatever type I want, bucko) and IF(S) might be the only ones that never tried to mess me up and over.>>83868799>But of course the real answer is translating PT in dog-speech and let her become aware of the T.F.Cute! Don't forget to give her reading glasses!>>83868828>>83868865Have you tried literally everything, but not in the scatterbrained puer aeternus way, but "scrape your arms to grime-covered bone and then do it again and again and again" way? Hope that helps! You're welcome;>>83868922In this (You)conomy, you've gotta invest into prospering businesses, indeed.
>>83868992>Probably uuuhhhhmmmmmm... IS(T) and EN(T) and IN(T) (I'll mention whatever type I want, bucko) and IF(S) might be the only ones that never tried to mess me up and overOh, IT(N) too.
Let's see... EN(F)? Eh, nah. EN(T)s might be more annoying on average but at least they don't full off that kinda trash that EN(F)s can; being annoying is a nothingburger.
>>83868828>One could potentially, bearing in mind these sorts of things, turn oneself into a literal G0D.So close and yet so far, unfortunately, in your human conceit and perhaps some archetypal possession, you forgot one very important red truth: the inferior function always stays inferior.Given that, God has willingly chosen to forever gatekeep us from godhood.
>>83869061>the inferior function always stays inferior.Wrong.
WAIT A SECOND. Did I list the types of people I give trouble to?Let's see...No, wait, that'd be every type. Thank God.
>>83869071Mere delusions of grandeur, "INFJ-A", your thinking is very strictly inferior, but I guess you can lie to yourself and believe it was about sensation instead.
>>83869127>your thinking is very strictly inferiorWRONG
Not only are you WRONGYou don't even know what inferior thinking MEANSLOL
Hooo boy! What an old WIP project I had found!>>83869258 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu39OElOENg&list=PL879965yJx44OcJaYHi1fO5IZRH7Fie0F&index=18[777 MOORECOINS HAVE BEEN DEPOSITED TO MY ACCOUNT FOR INCESSANT JUNGPOSTING]>will this-idk>but-idk>uhm-idk
Yet you can't articulate your thoughts, curious. Only seethe impotently and label others as non-believers.>>83869258Holy Fi-groid(with a side of intuition I guess)Fortunately for you though, the inferior function is a psychological condition, not a physical impediment or the lack of a skill. You could always learn the thinking specific to being an investor if you wanted to, perhaps in a way that's more mechanical and detached from your conscious attitude, or detach yourself a little from the Feeling to dip into the auxiliaries (then almost inevitably the inferior, due to closeness and perceived necessity from the middle realm/non-pure ego standpoint) so it can become something felt in yourself as opposed to merely learning a skill.
>inferior thinking is when you can't articulate your thoughts!Lol, 16p is calling, they want their definitions back.
Jung-anon, unironically just leave the "reply-chain" as-is now.
It's quite offensive to Jung to call someone who treats functions as skillsets "Jung-anon".
But seriously though, quick summary of "what can one do about inferior functions?"Bad copes:>pretend it's not there (leads to neuroticism)>delegate it to somebody else (leads to co-dependency)>memorize behaviors mechanically purely for integration is society or a specific context (leads to depersonalization)>fall down all the way down to your primitive instincts (at worst, leads to physical death)Good copes:>channel it into a creative/recreative hobby, most likely also loosely related to an auxiliary function (active imagination, can be long-term, readily available to most)>detach yourself from the conscious-ego-persona complex and try to gain meta awareness, without turning to the either side (transcendent function, temporary, requires some degree of introspection and self-acceptance)>find a context where it's useful, but you aren't rushed by external demands so you can take your time (ideal social conditions, low chance, don't hope for it)>>83869641My cope is that I'm posting on a public forum anyways so it's an excuse as good as any to post things that people might be interested in.
>>83869346i notice when things become too Te-heavy my mind shuts down. When there are too many facts to keep up with, i was watching some videos on youtube lately, super concentrated at first, and it was an informational video. but then i started getting this bizarre headache thing...i really am an INFP huh...?
>>83869676Wildcard cope:>consciously, deliberately, and consistently overcompensate so much that people cringe, Nietzsche winces, but something in there is undeniably structured out nevertheless
>>83869753I didn't join the speedtyping community for nothing.INFx appears solid enough, I lean INFP but my accuracy rate isn't 100%.>>83869763If it's only a few people cringing and Nietzsche, you aren't overcompensating hard enough.
>>83869810I was gonna also say that i found my post to be really cringeworthy that's why i deleted it. I even posted it knowing it was going to be cringe lol. dont underestimate the masochism of an enneagram 4. to kill boredom i bring myself to negative feeling states intentionally sometimes.
spanking lilac on the bumski
>>83869849It's 4chan, you don't have to worry about the "cringe" here.In fact one of the biggest draws of the entire site for me is an environment that allows people to express some really true thoughts and feeling without needing much of a social mask. Not saying everyone always does this, but it is of no consequence and might lead to some interesting convos and nice insights that you just won't find in more controlled places, or the ones where your posts have an account attached to it in general.
>>83868580>>typeESFP-T>>type you love the most and why (can't say your own type)ESFJ. Very caring and dependable.
Did you know that preventing a lethal accident gives you less social credit points and PR power than saving someone from an accident nearly going lethal?Hmm... Now. Archetypal economy. Investment into real psychic estate to house the integrated archetypes that will pay rent... Hmm, who's the hired debt collector or acting evictor? THE THERAPIST, YOU SAY? Interesting... Maybe you should background check your rentoids first huh? Hmm...
>>83863880lmao patchy btfo
How come patchy chopped his cock off and now spends all day everyday posting on r9k about how much he hates Jung?
We all love Jung here, some more than others.
>>83869061Checking your Chiron aka "The nerf you learn to live with but never heal" placement new way to determine the inferior?
>>83870607More like "uncheck your Barnum effect, sweetie!"
Whoooo was the first person to ever post about the Forer effect in this thread, btw? :^)*hoo-hoo, hoo, hoo*
>>83869061>Given that, God has willingly chosen to forever gatekeep us from godhood.This is a rejection of Scripture.The Holy Spirit is alive and available for all believers. Residing within all who Believe and do His will.
OH NOOH NO NO NO NO NOSHODDY LLM-GOLEM OF MY POSTS FROM YEARS AGOA-A-ALLEGATIONSYOU AREN'T *click*ING THE ALLEGATIONS
Are we playing Academia Simulator?I draw Thomas Edison, put him into attack position, aaaaaaaand use his Steal Intellectual Labor effect!
>>83870607>"The nerf you learn to live with but never heal"Sure. That's what's being described as inferior function in a nutshell.But it does have a more "positive" quality to it, that function is also an endless source of creative/restorative energy, whenever life becomes boring and nothing seems to matter, generally new meaning will come out of the inferior function. V.F.
>http://forer.netopti.net/
>>83870480Because Jungian wholeness contradicts his very point of view. Who needs to be whole when you can just chop things off and claim a new identity!?
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/74373096/#74381511... I have no idea what was the conclusion of that though. Still, the concept is quite useful.
PSA: if you're ever going to post OC anywhere, be sure to say it's your OC! Otherwise sx/sp types might prefer to see flaws in it and call it steaming garbage as their default "us vs them" tribal rapport building mechanism! ESPECIALLY the thinking-oriented types!Many such misunderstandings!
Integration!?BAH!Who needs it!? I have surgical analysis and dissection! I have my LOGICKS which can reduce any object or subject to mere concepts! Alas!Who needs INTEGRATION!? I have THINKOIDING!SYMBOLS?! BAH!WHO NEEDS 'EM!?I CAN REDUCE THEM TO OBJECTS, MERE SIGNS TO POINT TO KNOWN TRUTHS, AND CLAIM THOSE TRUTHS TO BE THEMSELVES THE SYMBOL!I DON'T UNDERSTAND JUNG YOU SAY?!BAH! WHO NEEDS HIM!?I HAVE THESE OTHER INTERPRETATIONS WHICH ALIGN BETTER WITH MY POST-MODERN CONCEPTUALIZATION OF THE PSYCHE ANYWAY!
>>83870709The questions on this test are bad because I have to debate between answering the spirit of the question or the real answer (which is more complicated but doesn't necessarily match the spirit)
>>83870907Moore's King archetype presence is the conclusion
Uh oh Fi-groid(Fe-groid? Damn man, I don't even like them usually but that feels like massive slander against the entire type) melty
>>83870908>>83870918how the fuck did he predict oc
>>83870778is that why he only uses 3 letters whenever he types someone instead of 4?
>>83870967How about the other way around? I predicted his prediction of OC and preempted it.(I drew that a whole 12 minutes before his post)
Also tfw never got my "witch discord" invite despite the Bernposting. I contributed to an entire side damn it!
the witchcord communes through blood rituals in the forest if you didn't get an invite it's probably because you're a moid
Nevermind it's apparently because one of the replies I made might have pissed off one of the people there lol lmao. It was written in the very same thread.>which oneidfk
>/mbti/ bitchcord
>>83870991A very astute symbolic observation.He quite literally chopped off the fourth letter. Chopped off the fourth function.Severed the connection with the shadow and called it integration
>>83864322omg is this kabbalah
No not that, there was apparently one with the anons who specifically came here to post about Umineko and the interesting Jungian arguments. Never got in despite the Bernposting and contributing to an entire sideDon't ask me why I would suddenly think about that 3 whole years after the fact.
>Abstraction, therefore, is a form of mental activity that frees this content from its association with the irrelevant elements by distinguishing it from them or, in other words, differentiating it (v. Differentiation).>In its wider sense, everything is abstract that is separated from its association with elements that are felt to have no relevance to its meaning. Abstraction is an activity pertaining to the psychological functions (q.v.) in general. There is an abstract thinking, just as there is abstract feeling, sensation, and intuition (qq. v.). Abstract thinking singles out the rational, logical qualities of a given content from its intellectually irrelevant components. Abstract feeling does the same with a content characterized by its feeling-values; similarly with sensation and intuition. Hence, not only are there abstract thoughts but also abstract feelings, the latter being defined by Sully as intellectual, aesthetic, and moral.2 To these Nahlowsky adds all religious feelings.>Abstract feelings would, in my view, correspond to the "higher" or "ideal" feelings of Nahlowsky. I put abstract feelings on the same level as abstract thoughts. Abstract sensation would be aesthetic as opposed to sensuous sensation (q.v.), and abstract intuition would be symbolic as opposed to fantastic intuition (v. Fantasy and Intuition). In this work I also associate abstraction with the aware ness of the psycho-energic process it involves. When I take an abstract attitude to an object, I do not allow the object to affect me in its totality; I focus my attention on one part of it by excluding all the irrelevant parts. My aim is to disembarrass myself of the object as a singular and unique whole and to abstract only a portion of this whole.Ahh, so it was just differentiation huh...>>83871290>Don't ask me why I would suddenly think about that 3 whole years after the fact....The Rokkenjimaese Flashbacks.I can see it in the Thousand Gus Typings Stare.
>Chopping a rose off a bush is the same as differentiating the rose from the bushThe pseuds really believe this.
>>83871247witchcord, bitchcordfaggots think they're hardcorebleedin on the dorm floordilate, too latelegacy's a tertiary done for, gone forsold it for an albacore
>>83871328>Ahh, so it was just differentiation huh...I've been trying to tell that to you-know-who the entire time. In the context of functions, these two terms mean the same thing.>I can see it in the Thousand Gus Typings Stare.Imagine for a second being Bern and observing Gus as a different type in each different fragment.On a serious note, I believe the real type is still IS(likely T lean, but not sure). His strange indecision over the type comes from inferior intuition+feeling trying to see some rapport with any random possibility, though you can argue it's also about misunderstanding the system from the side of intuition+thinking.
any niggas into socionics? Like the articles on their wikisocion.net page, i used to study the fuck out of that.
>>83871290the bernposter was the worst one by farange poster was cool
>>83871417Wow fucking rude.Maybe I couldn't quite match the energy if that's what you meant, but there was an attempt.
sharing some of my insights, hope they can be of service, elucidating thoughts on some intriguing jungian metaphysics...https://vocaroo.com/1oSAhSwiqSEQ
>>83871359bars... fuck witches give'm stichesburn them bitches
>>83871454stick'm with a fence postleave'm rotten on the benches
Ok so concrete vs abstract is done with as homework.Next up is.... Uhhhhhh....................................... Imagos, symbols. Hmm...If anyone would want to discuss symbols, there's something interesting on them I've found.Imagos... >Because of its extremely subjective origin, the imago is frequently more an image of a subjective functional complex than of the object itself. In the analytical treatment of unconscious products it is essential that the imago should not be assumed to be identical with the object; it is better to regard it as an image of the subjective relation to the object. That is what is meant by interpretation on the subjective level.So imagos are literally psychological complexes as perceptions of people or psychologically complicated objects.What else do we have?>Individuation is closely connected with the transcendent function (v. Symbol, par. 828), since this function creates individual lines of development which could never be reached by keeping to the path prescribed by collective norms. Under no circumstances can individuation be the sole aimSo ANY abnormal path is transcendent function's point d'appui now? JUUUUUUUUUUNG!!!>Under no circumstances can individuation be the sole aim of psychological education. Before it can be taken as a goal, the educational aim of adaptation to the necessary minimum of collective norms must first be attained. If a plant is to unfold its specific nature to the full, it must first be able to grow in the soil in which it is planted.Hmm.>>83871328>fantastic intuition (v. Fantasy and Intuition)Wait a sec, fantasia is not the Transcendent Function anymore? JUUUUUUUUUUNG!!!>>83871417Are you sure you aren't a Fi-gga?Anyhow I'm glad I squared off against everyone involved to gain as much EXP as possible heheheheh...>>83871448What if I told you I'm literally a deaf 80 year old with brain damage (that's why I write like a millennial) and have no point in clicking on vocaroo links?
>>83871528Shiny like chromeshit's off the domebreaking into your homewith a satellite phonecall your momcall your dadtell 'm something that'll make 'm real sad"You're son's my daughter,his knight's been numbered"
low IQ sensoid SP-types be like...
>>83871555You should read Stages on Life's way.
>>83862454>TypeINTP-T>What's your biggest pet peeveNot my biggest but I dislike when I can predict people's behavior or action. Never really understood why it makes me so upset.>What's your favorite YouTube channelCharborg/CHRBRG. Used to watch him years ago. He put in so much effort just to fuck with his friends. In one video he manually rebuilt a map from Animal Crossing in Garry's Mod, made the textures himself, wrote a script for a "murder mystery" story based on how he thought his friends acted and didn't tell them anything. At the time he had less than ~60k subscribers IIRC. He's blowing up now and he deserves it.>What's your favorite ice cream flavorstrawberry cheesecake with graham cracker swirls, waffle cone chunks, and macadamia nuts & white chocolate.>What's your favorite guilty pleasureI forget that I have autonomy and I fuck with strangers sometimes. Not anything too much, usually I'll walk up to a random person and lie about whatever. They'll never see me again so I don't care.>What are you most nostalgic forBeing mindlessly happy.>What's something that instantly improves your moodThe day after an intense work out. I love how sore my legs feel after lifting.
>>83871678Elaborate why the rec? Because after random bad book recs I got over the last years I'd rather reinvent philosophy systems from scratch 50 times over than read into whatever communication-unavailable author's philosophical work, unless someone presents me their personal stuff directly of course.I'm lucky that Jung et al. isn't philosophical per se, or I'd be just seething onto Jung 24/7 here (no, I just wouldn't be reading him anymore. Maybe I'm unlucky then, how about that huh?).
Being a 7(enneagram) but also a Thinking lean in Jungian is funny as fuck because I can smell the Fe-groids SEETHING that I do their job better but whilst being genuinely enthusiastic, no social credit farming or attempt to force the good vibes, I just walk in and do it, then disappear.
>>83871359What is witchcord? I went to a witch thing a girl dragged me to and I was kinda disappointed. Half of them didn't seem to know what visualizing was, yet they all seemed to think they were these Jesus tier miracle workers who could control the weather/etc. very odd.
>>83871733It's like Jung without types. What you just posted reminded me of it. I personally think Kierkegaard is often more communicative than Jung.Maybe you shouldn't read it...
>>83871781Interesting but if you do not pay attention to the feelings enough, and finding pleasure out of their misery, that's going to lead to problems in the future, that i am sure of. technically you're doing everything right, doing the job, and with a smile on your face. But the Fe-groids would probably want to sabotage things for you.maybe, maybe not though? speculah.
>>83871881What belief are you? My guess is agnostic philosophy like existentialism.>>>83871685>I'll walk up to a random person and lie about whateverthats fucked up dude. Why would you willingly talk to normies?
>LLM can guess my enneagram tritype based on lists of books I disliked and liked>but nothing else aside from the MBTI typeODDLY specific.[///]>42. POWER-COMPLEX. I occasionally use this term to denote the whole complex of ideas and strivings which seek to sub ordinate all other influences to the ego (q.v.), no matter whether these influences have their source in people and objective conditions or in the subject's own impulses, thoughts, and feelings.This is actually interesting but it's weird to not elaborate on this. Since for what it's worth, every distinct complex type is not unlike a psychological function per se.>>83871882Ok I will check him after completing the Moore courses. If I will be seething about Kierkegaard then you'll be solely responsible for this... No I wouldn't be thinking of you worse, now that'd be stupid.>>83871781I feel like the only "Jungian" "buff" I seemingly received is thinkoids overestimating me hard, then cracking open that I'm not a thinkoid, then getting confused when I habitually go intuitoid...
>>83871555>f anyone would want to discuss symbolsHow can anyone discuss symbols with a person who KILLS SYMBOLS?Or were you merely referring to symbols as a concept? You simply want to discuss the concept of symbols, not symbols themselves?What's the point in that? Oh, right, to dissect them and drain them of their libido to understand them and use them as an instrument to point to an object, making them completely useless. Duh, I already knew that.
Quick DM patchy on discord with the message "You're very talented for an INFP"
Being a 4(enneagram) but also a feeling lean in Jungian is funny as fuck because it makes me want to die
>>83872140i posted something similar, or was about to, but i didn't. funny you and i think the same way
>>83872140>>83872226like it's so eerily similar, it feels like some glowie was observing me typing my post, and then proceeding to post it to fuck with me, just like in another post the other day, when i replied with a compliment to my own thread, and removed it, then someone replied the exact same compliment 15 minutes later.I'm being terrorized. this is what terror is like, by definitionsomeone is watching me...
>>83872265Maybe you should try individuating eh.
>>83872007I consider myself esoteric Christian. I judge religions/ideologys by the results thier practices produce so: practice based results > philosofagging > beliefagging > nihilismI don't care about the organization(church), doctrine(rules) or dogma(blind belief). I understand that orgs/docs can be important to large orgs, but they're not the end point, and dogma certainly is not the end point. Religious holy-texts are basically like if someone made a good /trv/ thread, then someone copypasted that thread as an image onto reddit, and then some youtuber makes a vid commenting on the reddit comments, and then someone prints a book based on the YT vid full of his opinons and calls it "the book of /trv/". Thats what holy texts can be like.
There's something.... strange in the air.
>>83872302I am individuated evident by the fact that the gangstalkers are obsessed with terrorizing me!
>>83872010Whether you seethe or sing, i'll be sated.
>>83872366What would you do if the gangstalkers are metaphysical?>>83872336Real nihilism has never been tried before (joke) (also serious) (this is complicated...)
>>83871993No need to speculah about it, happened some months ago.>doing my thing with some random people talking about AI and other stuff, cracking jokes and speculah, pure enthusiasm in the room >Fe-groid walks in, wants us to seriously consider muh ethics and throws up some huge banalities (think about the water consumption!)>I summon the most pure form of Trickster energy and mock the shit out of this out of place oversensitivity, as smugly as you can possibly imagine given my type >backs down but with a revenge, reporting my behavior to higher ups including unrelated things to this convoSlap on the wrist, but still. What a lil seething shit.Would do it again.
The "gangstalkers" are connecting with you through the collective unconscious. do not resist the calling
>>83872010>I feel like the only "Jungian" "buff" I seemingly received is thinkoids overestimating me hard, then cracking open that I'm not a thinkoid, then getting confused when I habitually go intuitoid...I get that sometimes, but it doesn't last because the intuitive sperg outs become evident enough as soon I'm actually engaged
>>83862454>Typeintp>What's your biggest pet peevewomen>What's your favorite ice cream flavormint>What's your favorite guilty pleasureice cream & vodka>What are you most nostalgic fora time when tomorrow could have been brighter than today>What's something that instantly improves your moodalcohol>>83862887>When a situation/relational dynamic requires extra effort on your part in the form of elaboration/clarification to progress or be maintained, which conditions prompt you to pick up that slack? Which conditions incline you to disengage entirely? Which conditions incite you to deal with the disconnect or communicational impasse with aggression or other drastic measures?cost/benefit analysis>>83868580>type you love the most and why (can't say your own type)too bad, intp, i have enjoyed and sought the continued company of every intp i have ever met
>>83871881Which witchcordwithered whore?The one with regulars, bored?Or that tied with blood and gore?One can never be too sure,which witchcord one adorns.
>>83871582Call it revenge for simple minded symbol slaughter.
Witches, best left in ditchesNo stitches for unhealed woundsDead like the bed they sleep on.Graves, like they will weep on.No power, just dirt, a nap to be had.Don't mourn, their death will not be sad.For up will be grown a flower.Because, they have no-
>>83872777SHEEESHTrips of slay kingstitches are too good for these witchestheir wounds should fester and sufferas they bleed out in agonyfuck witches
>>83872777Home, HeadlandHeaded out out to seaHome of the brokeLand of the freeWitches can't catchA tramp like meRespect's a matterBut i ain't a bowerI Check the numbersSkip the power
>every serious reading into [anything, from psychology to cooking] ends with crashing into woo-less quantum mechanics theory again and againGimme a break...Oh wait... Is that Jung's Atom and Archetype reference?
bro, sorry "sis", picks up dr seuss and thinks he's reading quantum mechanics
>>83873135bro, sorry "sissy", picks up dr seuss and thinks he's reading quantum mechanics
>>83873135>Everything is actually irrationalDude, we've been over this. Have you learned NOTHING from our conversations? Were you even paying attention???
Paying attentionOr feeding addiction?Flowers cut down by diction.
>>83873174Not Dr. SeussWhen i cut loseI'm king of the foresta real bull mouse
The corpse of a witch,Found in a ditchDig her up and what will you findNeither the reason neither the rhymeNeigh even a penny for the thought-but maybe a dime.But under the corpse, what will you see?Maybe with glee-to know- It was always ---me---
>>83862454>See anime>Guy is obsessed with normal boring panties and braIs it really that exciting to moids? I tend to think it's an exaggerated in-joke, like they're only slightly mildly excited but the joke is that guys are sex crazed apes.
Quantum... Schrodinger... Catbox?Oh, yes... THAT one, lol...>>83873327Technically, complex patterns like lingerie make for anti-rest zones for the eyes.There's like 5 layers to answering this in full anyway.
>>83862454Where can I find a gay, high-iq, warrior-poet infj? No other man will satisfy me
>>83873327Save certain extreme extenuating circumstance,it's a meme made by men missing self esteem.
>>83873349Your butt is something divineBubble bath make it shineKrusty kream from the krusty krabPut that big bussy bitch on the tab
Damn that shit gayToss it in the bayFeed it to the fishScrub it away like a dirty ass dish
>>83862454dear Anon, I'm really tired of this MBTI b.s. I've personally met ppl who fitted a type just to realize it's just a stereotype and means nothing compared to an actual person personality. Move on bro, leave all this behind.
>>83873423All stereotypes are true.White British people are like British people.Somalian are all thieves.Germans are all like germans.Russians are like Russians. Chinese are all like Chinese. Mbti is true within those contexts as a stereotype
Clitty drip, no tip, just a sad little glitchBeg for the strap, on your knees like a glitchPouty lips quiver, mascara run thickTwitch twitch twitch, yeah that cage got you sick Dat dat on the floor, ass up for the kingSwing swing that thing, hear the bell when you ringPink plug poppin', prostate go blingSissy tears flowin', but you still gonna sing "Can I get a reload? Sir please, one more hit"Tiny worm wrigglin', never gonna fitLocked and denied, blue balls full commitDat dat swing swing, now open wide, take it Bussy clenchin' hard on that monster dreamKrusty kream spillin', straight from the supremeBubble bath shine on that divine behindBig bussy bitch, yeah we know your type Twitch twitch, leak leak, ruin on the sheetNo finish for you, just defeat after defeatDat dat dat, swing swing swingSissy forever, hear the cage go cling
>>83873390Butt buster thinks he's got barsbut he's running into cars.Shit ain't fit to feed to fish,faggot fixing his own dish,dirty dinner for a petty sinner.Poor fucker thinks he's a winner,when even witch could break the bitch.
Patchy doesn't like caged cocks because he cut his off xD
>Blatantly steals my fish/dish lineHEY FAGGOT THAT'S PLAGERISM.
"Jerk Jerk!" Lilac says with a smirk!Dat clitty gonna cream from yo li-ttle twirp!Six foot underground aint enoughDis cream machine finna bus
>>83873494I was riffing off you. Take it as a complement, mimicry being the highest form of flattery.
You animals are turning my thread into a porno site..
>>83873493No ability to even cage it xD
>>83873527In some ways he's permanently caged, it's like the phantom limb phenomenon except where you imagine you have a caged cock but then you look down and it's just gone. Nightmare fuel
>I'm stealing your intellectual labors as a compliment!
I saw news that a New York detranstioner won a big court case, maybe patchy can win a lot of money and turn away from the evil, but it's unfortunate about his almonds never blooming since he smote them
>>83873551Don't be such a bitch over rhyming fish and dish.
That's it I'm locking up in chastity and mailing the key to a reggieShould I give it to Mela, Patchy, or Lilac?
You're supposed to keep seething over being baited into watching tranny porn 6 months ago. Stop infighting.
>>83873509I accept your apologyEven if you didn't say it
>>83873556>>83873521Thread becomes hostile once the tripfag shows up.
>>83862454>TypeINTJ>What's your biggest pet peeveanyone in HR>What's your favorite YouTube channelall time? prolly jerma>What's your favorite ice cream flavorchocolate>What's your favorite guilty pleasurehmm... lurking this board and others and convincing myself people i know are posting>What are you most nostalgic forall night gaming with frens back when none of us had work>What's something that instantly improves your moodmusic, most of the time
>>83873597>the local news is hostileHmm you sound weak, are you a female or do you just wish you were
>>83873582Why should we give you the time, when you can't even rhyme? You might say you can alliterate, but without a meter, that's plain bait.>>83873609>new york>local newsYankee yankingto his butthurt brain.Watches the newscause he likes the pain.Local, international, bullshit claimsto the empire stateit's all the same.
With the identity unlost With no hidden uncost The seeker demandedThe boat be landedThe Captain decried A holy commandThat thee must abideUnless thee be died.
Drunk ass neighbors went from screaming over the super bowl win to blasting music I wish they SHUT UP.
>>83873819Ok I guess theyre gonna be up all night blasting music. I'm gonna watch an anime on my headphones. Maybe I'll try dr stone again.
>>83874740Tell me some anime you've really liked and I'll suggest something for you.
any thread-breavers that would like to suckle on my cummy cock
INFPs never get the girlINTPs never reach the summitINTJs always manages to brutally buttrape the negroidINFJs never manages to defeat the jew
>>83862454>INFP>Littering>Simpleflips>There was this pink colored cinnamon ice cream flavor at a family restaurant chain near me but I'm pretty sure they're all closed now, its been a long time since I've had it and nothing has ever come close. Maybe something like Ben and Jerry's churro flavor would hit the spot>ERPing with ai characters>Classic internet forum structure and culture, I don't like modern social media at all>Animal videosAm I gay?
>>83875667INFPs are feminine so yeah. you most likely fall in love with big juicy cocks mate
Thingken about the type and the personality in Jungian terms(Ego, Shadow, Persona, Self, Complexes etc.) but the tl;dr of my ramblings on it was that it really doesn't produce any solid correlation, and if it really did then mistypes would only ever happen if somebody lied consciously(assuming ideal knowledge of the theory, or a test that can properly type you).The trick behind all of this is that one quote about "contents of all the functions(or attitude) can become conscious", what stops the ego from, somehow, identifying with all the inferior function contents? Nothing, it is currently conscious after all, even if the function itself isn't.Granted this will lead to many issues such as very poor self-esteem combined with poor self-awareness but there are many people living exactly like this.
>>83875827the dominant functions override the inferior functions in terms of presence in the conscious mind. if i were conscious of my sensing and thinking functions i'd be a great businessman making money fucking hot sluts all thatbut given that i am procrastinating and reading weird topics on the incelboards i find that i may or may not be such concsious human bean?
>>83875853>the dominant functions override the inferior functions in terms of presence in the conscious mind.Sure, both the function activity and the resulting contents would, but there is a huge difference between this happening as a fact, and the ego being able to identify with it, instead somehow focusing on the inferior function products that accidentally entered the field of consciousness. Again, level of self-awareness would be ant-tier, but it's possible to meet people like this.As for skillz, any type can learn any skill though some certainly have more affinity with specific functions and might come more naturally than others.
>>83875889i'm not really sure what your first post was about but, i felt like biting because it's interesting. An example of inferior function becoming conscious, i noticed it before, i got this reminder of my inferior Te saying that i should utilize some coupon thingy i have that makes me get better prizes at the grocery store, i tend to ignore all the practical logical stuff that could benefit me in the material sense. but it does pop up every now and then, it's just that i prefer to be in airy-fairy dream land and my life is fucked because of it. I can no longer refuse to listen to the call of my inferior function, that's what i'm starting to learn.in essence, my main functions push aside the inferior but it does show up.
The unconscious agrees to a model of itself only by preferences and rapport.>>83875667>>Classic internet forum structure and culture, I don't like modern social media at allValid and I dislike both, down to the first terminal message boards.>Am I gay?Are you?>>83873607>lurking this board and others and convincing myself people i know are postingGrim.>>83874768Cat Soup>>83875889>As for skillz, any type can learn any skillYeah.Actual specific people however...>>83875827>it really doesn't produce any solid correlationOh yeah? What about correlation between the type and the most active archetype complexes in the psyche at large?
>>83875934>An example of inferior function becoming consciousForgive me for being pedantic here, but it's "a content of the inferior function". The inferior Thinking itself does not reach consciousness because it automatically negates the "governing principle" of Feeling - but unconscious contents derived by it can reach consciousness through other ways(sometimes picked up by the auxiliaries, that will feel at least partially intentional except you might not immediately see the Thinking baggage connected to it, since Sensation or Intuition are not trying to exclude that a priori but your Feeling might).The rest of the post is actually fairly accurate to Jung, such as the conscious attitude of Feeling resisting to the Thinking product, and this generating stronger inner tension.tl;dr you grasped the right idea, just refining the concepts here because uuuuh auxiliary thinking wants to do that
>>83875970>What about correlation between the type and the most active archetype complexes in the psyche at large?Now that would be interesting to think about, but I never bothered doing it for all types.I know for a fact that the Trickster-Magician archetypes have some correlation with intuition, because very inherently these are concerned with possibility and tearing down the established realities.
>>83862454>TypeINTP (Maybe INTJ)>What's your biggest pet peevePeople being dogmatic>What's your favorite YouTube channelWhangKorean-German guy talking about weird obscure internet stories (and he's a 4chan oldfag who actually knows what he's talking about)>What's your favorite ice cream flavorPistachio >What's your favorite guilty pleasureJunk food. Procrastination. Masturbating. >What are you most nostalgic forI remember when I was a kid I was obsessed with videogames and anime and I basically lived in the fictional world more than I did in the real world. These days I can't get into fiction like that anymore, it just doesn't work>What's something that instantly improves your moodA good discussion with someone usually gets my spirit up. Usually I'm completely silent and shelled up in my head so it helps me get out of that sorta rut Also going outside and seeing the sun
>>83876025This post smells of inferior sensationCan't tell you about the attitude though, or even the favored auxiliary function, but the main is intuition.
>>83876071I suppose you're right, I don't really feel so much like I'm a Feeling inferior type. I feel like I have a more mature grasp of my Feeling function, but use it in a more dismissive manner rather than seeking it. But I do very much exhibit signs of a very archaic and repressed sensing function and a very dominant intuitive one.You would say I could be extroverted or feeling, though?
>>83876108>I feel like I have a more mature grasp of my Feeling function, but use it in a more dismissive manner rather than seeking itVery typical pattern of the lower aux(aka tertiary), it's not opposing the general attitude of intuiton, thus it can be very vividly in the field of consciousness, but the other aux(Thinking) tends to win over. >You would say I could be extroverted or feeling, though?From the previous post I wasn't able to exclude it, right now it's a lot more unlikely unless this is purely a temporary mood(but to me it looks like a consistent pattern, from the way the post is worded).There is also some hint of introversion now that's a lot more than simply behavior, it's about how the subjective determinants(read: derived by the subject internally, not necessarily in the sense of feeling, could be an internally consistent valid idea) seems to matter more than the objective ones(read: sourced externally, not necessarily more valid, just not internally conceived).
>>83876148Yeah, honestly, now that I think about it it's quite unlikely that I'm extraverted anywho, as my being is very driven by my own internal determinants at the cost of conflict with the external world. My worldview is very much determined by my own subjective factors that I have internally analyzed, and I have an attitude that is generally very skeptical of outside consensus or accepted cultural norms. In fear of being overwhelmed by the object, I have a long period of skepticism before I stop trying to fight back against and start accepting the new reality that surrounds me.My flow of libido is very inward directed also. I am very far from outwardly reactive. I'm rather measured and tend to withdraw and in face of external factors instead of projecting outwards on the environment. My way of recuperating is by completely isolating from external stimuli and retreating back to the subject. Which explains the long periods of total isolation and mental ruminations i exhibit after being drained by the elements.I could go on, but you get the gist.
>>83876256It's cool I get it, can spot my introverted counterpart rather quickly.Probably because I like reading their stuff a lot and even know exactly two IRL(one is feeling aux tho), and after a while you notice a fuckton of common patterns.
>>83876281Ah well I'm just glad I was able to explain it well enoughSo that would make you an Extraverted Thinking type with auxiliary Intuition, huh?What is so common about us Introverted Intuition types that makes you spot us out?
>>83876313>So that would make you an Extraverted Thinking type with auxiliary Intuition, huh?Actually intuition first. >What is so common about us Introverted Intuition types that you makes you spot us out?The relevant ones here:>don't like looking at external reality much UNTIL some particular sense impression catches their attention(e.g. the sun), and when they do the reaction becomes very emotive>can either overindulge in sensory pleasure, or shut them off completely, almost no middle ground(games and fiction for you)>the intuition doesn't seem to be concerned with external possibilities at all despite having the general traits of it, a noticeable one is wanting to see way beyond immediate reality, to the point of not seeing the immediate reality at all sometimes>their expression is through concepts and ideas, though they will almost always claim to be very aware of feeling even if it doesn't show up externally most of the times
>>83876369Ohh my bad, honestly I was going off of MBTI typology wherein the extraverted counterpart to Introverted Intuition with Auxiliary Thinking (INTJ) would be Extraverted Thinking with auxiliary Intuition (ENTJ) But we're going off of Jung's Psychological Types here, aren't we. Anywho, I don't know what I should have expected, but those stereotypical descriptions of Introverted Intuition sound precisely like what my experience feels like.>don't like looking at external reality muchVery true. In my own mental exploration, I very much tend to prefer overlooking external reality and established facts to look behind reality and explore concepts in the more abstract and conceptual space. Often to the point of having trouble to find the words to employ to talk about some of the concepts I think about, and also often enters in conflict when I try to talk to people in my life who tend to resort to more grounded concepts or dogmatic/moral appeals. Though, talking of people in my life, I think it was largely my brother who influenced me towards this type of thinking.>they will almost always claim to be very aware of feeling even if it doesn't show up externally most of the timesMost people upon first contact with me assume that I'm a Feeling inferior type, but eventually, my Feeling function seems to become more apparent and we'll developed, even if used in a more subdued manner. I can be quite good at using my feeling function when I feel like it though, but mostly to navigate my way out of social situations, or to serve my dominant intuition's needs. It's not nearly well developed enough for it to be my auxiliary function though, as my use of it can be rather immature or only employed as a temporary measure but unsustainable long term.>>can either overindulge in sensory pleasure, or shut them off completelyVery true. This can either represent in my completely ignoring of my sensory needs when I'm in a particularly reclusive state, oh i typed too much!
>>83876502I was disappointed by that manga. I thought it would be more grounded, and less... videogamey.Shimeji Simulation was much better, which is why my expectations were so high,
>>83876502>>83876369-Or my brash/immature use of sensing when I overcompensate with brutish and simple physical solutions to my physical problems that arise out of myself completely ignoring my physical situation, or can even at times manifest itself as sudden bouts of uncharacteristic aggressivity for the rather soft and subdued individual that I am.I often fantasize about an alternate version of myself, a version of myself that is more physically proactive and adept, a version of myself who can navigate the physical world with ease. A representation of my extraverted unconscious.This conception of my ideal self, I sometimes try to embody, but it is not in my nature to act this way and so upon rejection by the external world, this causes an internal collapse and a reversion back into my idealized internal world of abstraction internal concepts and fiction. Back into the subject closet. I have quite the immature relation to the object.
>>83876560I've watched some parts of the anime, so far I like it very much. It nails well a desolate but almost comforting atmosphere. I feel like it's well executed myself.
>>83876502>But we're going off of Jung's Psychological Types here, aren't we.Why yes, because I have massive Jungism. How could you tell?Not really, the switch took quite a few years of massive overthinking about MBTI until I decided shit just makes a lot less sense than Jung's original system.>Often to the point of having trouble to find the words to employ to talk about some of the concepts I think aboutJung definitely warned about that one, introverted intuitives struggle talking about things but on the other hand, they seem to flow way better in writing. Almost always these types will turn to writing one way or another, either as a creative hobby just for the sake of, or as their job. Fittingly enough, they are very wordy as much as the extraverted counterpart as soon you engage with them.>Most people upon first contact with me assume that I'm a Feeling inferior typeThat is also something I noticed. But the difference between a real inferior Feeling type and somebody who isn't one, is that the former stays mostly unaware of feeling until much later, or will express it in a very banal way that's not true to their Feeling function at all(until typical inferior function shit happens and it becomes extreme, either in the sense of very strong hate or falling over heels for somebody out of nowhere, unfortunately had to observe the latter with a INTP myself and it was one giant mess damn) - the latter will claim awareness and selectiveness. Also some degree of competency as you are doing here.
>>83876561Sounds like you thought about your type very well, despite being confused with INTP for some reason(the reason for why I replied, I usually don't question people's types if they say they know it, unless they are showing me a VERY obvious sign they are something else, like INFJ-A being obviously a Feeling main)
>>83862454infp-tnoisy peopleprobably some asmr channel, like nanou or yobachocolate chip cookie doughidk, jerking offi guess i miss when there was good musicsomeone, irl, being nice to me
>>83873423I think this was an angel and we should all head his words. Close out of /mbti/ and never return. These limp wristed jungians are all nasty.Run ESCAPE
Sorry, I got really busy and caught up with some stuff. I hope your extraverted intuition didn't forget me.>>83876596Well honestly I wasn't sure, I was sort of stuck in analysis paralysis and wasn't truly sure. Sometimes though, it takes an external push for the internal possibilities to collapse and realise the answer I was looking for. Also, I wasn't too sure whether to consider more the MBTI or Jung side of typology. I did seriously consider for a time that I could be an Introverted Thinking dominant type though, but upon further inspection, it does seem much less likely.>>83876584Speaking is in fact a very large hurdle for me to overcome. I have so many thoughts passing through my head that are too complex and intangible for my underdeveloped conversational faculties, writing does somewhat ease this but I find it much easier and smoother to withdraw and let my thoughts simply "simmer" in my headspace for a long time in my head where the flow of information is much easier, before I even think about trying to put them into words. However, because of my deficiency in fluid conversational ability, I do have the tendency to make people think I am somewhat dimwitted. Because often, I'm so bad at expressing my thoughts that debates are practically impossible and I know better than to even attempt to rebuke people.
>>83877054>>83876584>is that the former stays mostly unaware of feeling until much later, or will express it in a very banal way that's not true to their Feeling function at allYeah, I can precisely see how this affect Introverted Thinking types. But while I also do have somewhat an immature grasp of my Feeling function and exhibit some of the behaviors you describe, I do in fact have a greater conscious grasp and smooth control of my feeling function. I can wield it for my purposes, against others and realize how it's affecting me but I don't necessarily have full control of it. But whereas Feeling is more of a mobilizing function for me, INTPs have it as a seeking function, purely unconscious and unaware, uncontrolled and immature. Affecting them in ways they do not necessarily expect. Rather, it is Feeling which controls them.>TLDR; I'm so smart and very cool
>>83877054>I hope your extraverted intuition didn't forget me.Close enough. Just ended up going full speculah somewhere else.>Well honestly I wasn't sure, I was sort of stuck in analysis paralysis and wasn't truly sure.Happens. Took me quite a while both to become sure of my type(due to inferior function shit more than anything) and sometimes I keep questioning it. That also happens to my typings for other people or characters, despite firing first and thinking more deeply about it later.> Also, I wasn't too sure whether to consider more the MBTI or Jung side of typology. Go Jungian or go home. The deeper you get into MBTI theorizing, the more you realize there are issues. All the stereotyping aside, you really can't get out of the logic error regarding the direction of the tertiary function, for instance. And they never did, they just made up a weird rationalization about "loops" that ends up creating a lot more confusion instead of simply admitting the mistake. Not going to post every single grievance here now, or I would be filling half of the thread with shit I already talked about a lot years ago.>However, because of my deficiency in fluid conversational ability, I do have the tendency to make people think I am somewhat dimwitted.Have seen that for these types, and Jung said it quite clearly, meanwhile I have the opposite issue lol lmao.IRL people will say that I'm talking a lot but never getting to a point, but in writing I'm much more direct and just summarize my own post before actually posting anyways.>>83877061Auxiliary functions in general have pretty fluid dynamics. It's very possible that when you grow up older, you will be flipping this entirely to focus on Feeling differentiation like I do in most other places except ITT, blatantly more feely stuff and trying to pretend I don't have thinking complaints
which type is the most milquetoastian semen slurping goy-boy?
>>83875827>and if it really did then mistypes would only ever happen if somebody lied consciouslyThis is just incorrect. It doesn't matter how much knowledge of theory you have. Theory cannot type you. You cannot read a book then understand or know your own type. It's simply just not how the psyche works. The same applies to tests, you cannot get your type from a test. These things are a confirmation bias to reinforce an ego identity with a persona, or a possession. There's really only one way to understand your type, and that's by experiencing your own psyche and differentiating yourself from happenstance. And this is precisely why so many people are and will likely remain, mistyped. Because they want the easy route, a label stamper to say "You are [this type]!"Without having to do the actual work of differentiating the unconscious. They don't want to deal with their trauma, they don't want to deal with their bad memories, their mistakes, etc. They don't want to separate themselves from their trauma, or the happenstance of their psyche. They *ARE* their own trauma. It is who they are, the happenstance, the whims of the psyche? That is who they are.They're depressed? They're not merely depressed, it is who they are. They're possessed by the depression. And this happens for everything.Pure theory or testing cannot solve these problems. Because one cannot be typed until the archetypal possessions have been dealt with, which requires real introspection. Theory is not a substitution for experience. Learning psychology is not a substitution for practicing it on yourself.You cannot abstract yourself to an understanding of yourself. You can only get there through a real, concrete experiential understanding of yourself. At best, abstraction give you the ability to apply labels to things, but it goes no deeper than that. The same applies to theory, because, at its core, it is abstraction, devoid of experience.
>>83877290>by experiencing your own psycheyou look like a retard who doesn't experience or practice thinking
>>83877317It would appear that you don't understand the words you speak, silly anon.
>>838772871. ISFJ2. INFP3. INTP4. ESFJ5. INFJ 6. ENFJ
>>83877287Undifferentiated types.If you are completely community-driven without anything resembling an attempt to develop your Self, be it by withdrawing or by influencing the external environment, then you are closer to an animal(yes this is Junganical). That, or an Extraverted Feeling type chronically unable to say no despite cultivating some dark thoughts. Those will fucking explode eventually, better prepare your anti-Feeloid shelter.>>83877317I've been told by *him* that I can't understand inferior thinking, and since he often argues the only way for you truly understand something would require experience, hmmmmmmm.... oh, I agree ,teach me then. Clearly he must understand more than me if he can state it so confidently.
>>83877376I've never said that, lol.Yet further evidence of your own lack of understanding of what is really being said. At every. Single. Turn.
>>83877432>I've never said that, lol.Gottem.>>83869246Who turned the thread on easy mode?
>>83877376>I've been told by *him* that I can't understand inferior thinking>>83869246>You don't even know what inferior thinking MEANSThat's funny. Those words don't match. Nor do they have the same meaning.The retardation levels here are astonishing.
>>83877457Just a basic ass contradiction that even this dorktective could spot. With her inferior thinking and lower aux sensation even.
Yet, even further evidence that you are incapable of understanding what's being said. Is it bad faith misrepresentation or pure retardation?No way to know.
I wonder though,At what point does evidence turn to proof?At what point,Does further evidence no longer contribute to the understanding?At what point does the theoretical understanding of evidence undermine the experience of the objective truth?Whoops, maybe I shouldn't think about that too hard out loud. It might get misunderstood.
in stress situation he turns to penises
>>83877261Honestly, for me it was more because of my dominant/auxiliary function that I kept reconsidering my type. There was even a time where I was stuck on my dominant attitude, but I realize how sorrily mistaken of an endeavor that is now.For me, it was simply that for everything seeming argument for me being introverted intuition dominant, there was also a counterargument for me being introverted thinking dominant. But now I see that the arguments obviously point much more towards the dominant intuitive function, with my inferior sensing serving as a cherry on the cake.It was also a lot of confusion caused by the MBTI system. The IEIE model does cause some incompatibilities and I believe it is inaccurate to how the conscious/unconscious duality actually functions, in this instance I find myself agreeing with Jung more.MBTI just creates a lot of weird and overly contrived addendums to Jung's theory, doesn't it?>IRL people will say that I'm talking a lot but never getting to a point, but in writing I'm much more directMight be the opposite for me. I think. In real life, I have such a contrived manner of speaking, which is rather matter of factly and extensive. I'm unable of "conversation" because instead, I "communicate". I tell concepts purely as they are. And I'm simply unable of keeping up with a lot of the dynamisms that are required in conversation. I have to extend a lot of energy to properly interact in a socially acceptable manner.That said, I still also like to have pure dumb, stupid fun sometimes too.>You will be flipping this entirely to focus on Feeling differentiationPerhaps. This is definitely not the theme right now however. My feeling function is rather repressed and undifferentiated. I know that the next step in my personal development is to learn and accept the role that it serves in my psyche, but so far I've been all but ignoring it, dismissing it's development by use of my Intuition.Feeling inferior CONFIRMED??
How truly Freudian>>83877557>Honestly, for me it was more because of my dominant/auxiliary function that I kept reconsidering my typeWhen you only look at these two, it tends to be more difficult yes. Generally I fall back to looking at the inferior functions if things get messy, because the true inferior function can't lie.>It was also a lot of confusion caused by the MBTI system. The IEIE model does cause some incompatibilities and I believe it is inaccurate to how the conscious/unconscious duality actually functions, in this instance I find myself agreeing with Jung more.Basically yeah. IEIE model is a strange interpretation of the theory that seemed to come mostly from a place of, first trying to claim the auxiliary would balance your attitude-type(in a way it does, but absolutely not in such a ideal fashion), and second by trying to counterbalance the auxiliary with the tertiary(straight logic error there, a function that's less differentiated and closer to the unconscious inevitably gets contaminated with the opposite attitude as well, how the fuck would the opposite even happen? That's closer to a split personality lol)>Feeling inferior CONFIRMED??Very technically speaking, "inferior" is a term for any function that still has a very low degree of differentiation.Though just to not create confusion, if there is something above the true inferior it's better to call it a lower aux or idk.
So anyway, does he >give up on his typing, so can claim he has experienced inferior thinking as INFP or whatever>throw his entire "muh experience" speechs in the trash bin and validate theoretical understanding>try to to play the fool with muh semantics(by himself, of course)>eat cocks and post shitty vocaroos?Either way, it is quite over to anyone with a functioning brain. It was this fucking easy.Very mean to trap people in contradictions I know, but sometimes it is deserved.
>>83877720>trap peopleokay sissy
You've not trapped anyone in anything. Except maybe yourself.
>penises status?Worshipped>retardation status?Unironically terminal>microphone status?Up the assYup it's infja time!!!
Is that a subtle penis chopping hint?
Guess straight up denial is also a possibility.Oh well, that goes for the next time either of the contradictory facts are claimed. One requires to be fixed, any conclusion you can draw from either premises is automatically invalid. >>83877854Unironic kino though. Now you can just either mine his typing or validate theoretical understanding.
>>83877720Who the fuck are you even talking about? (somehow this phrase is not organic)
>>83877889The reggie who calls himself "INFJ-A".
>>83877889It's just the mad sensoid feeloids seething that they'll never be a woman nor intuitive types.Nothing new.
>>83877720What contradiction? I'm not digging through posts, if you want to show off you'll have to make it succinct.
>>83877432>>83877440>>83877457This is the "contradiction" he's talking about. (it's so """contradictory""", I'm pointing to it myself, when I'm the one being accused of being contradictory)
>>8387787927th president, William Howard Taft! What are you doing here?
>>83877964Ok sure>83877290>83877376>83877432>83877440These posts have everything you need to understand the mechanics.>>83877968Ah finally some decisive evidence that's not just logic traps.Finally some SENSATION.
haha nigger i was that muh experience speeches INFP with the inferior function not that reggie guy, you mistake two different peoplegod damn and you think i eat cocks and all thatsensoids make poor detectives
INFJ-A impersonation theory??Do I actually have to prove this shit?
>>83877982That really isn't a contradiction. "Do not" and "Can not" have distinct meanings in those contexts. That you take his estimation of your current ability as an estimation of your capacity, ironically speaks against that which you felt to defend.>>83878042>muh experience speeches INFPWho? That wasn't in any of the posts i was linked to.
Semantics bullishit it is.
>>83878070mby dis? i may have misinterpreted that anon tho>83875934
>>83878076>words mean what most justifies my emotional reactionI'm not him. You know, if you consistently get into semantics bullshit with different people, it just might be because you're carting around a wheelbarrow full of it.
you guys are all a buncha queers. I miss OG typology niggas like ejarendee, he actually spoke about type in a observed behavior sort of way, explaining how types act in the real world. I think this thread is very focused on attaining some sort of perfect understanding of jungs theories and the discussions center around that....sorry for the complaint, it's just that i miss that OG style nigguhs breaking down concepts with the aid of external manifestations of type behavior.
>>83878123>different peopleI'm going to need a source for that one.No, generally people don't argue semantics much with my posts, unless they are malding.
>observed behaviorWhile I can understand the sentiment somewhat, Jungian typology at its core is not behavioral. Thank god, I might add, otherwise it would be hardly any different than modern pop psych bullshit. Jung would weep at seeing how we just straight up ignore the personal psyche, slap the label that fits most symptoms and go straight for the meds.If I were to make behavioral examples, then one could (correctly) point out all these behaviors might have to do with [factors that have nothing to do with type, such as the environment, personal education, beliefs, traumas, and what not] and [factors that can be explained from the PoV of a different type too].Behaviorally, this anime grill does detective stuff, so is she a thinking/intuition type?One could argue the fact she did engage in logical deduction clearly must prove the type, because logics are the realm of Thinking, and speculah is the realm of Intuition+Thinking.Turns out, this crude drawing represents an ExFJ(more likely intuition aux) instead. Her actual motives were born purely of Feeling, her conscious attitude considers that as governing principle for anything else, and Thinking only makes her feel like shit when she can't just defer to some banality.
Arguments here tend to be: a troll vs and autist.>Anon 1 (the troll) is bored and argues for shits and giggles but then slowly gets angrier and more invested.>Anon 2 (the autist) wants to "win" by being factually right, but is unable too so tries to "win" by outlasting the other side.
>>83878136Hypothetically speaking, do you reckon that, if someone would consistently send death threats to MBTI sloppa creators and tell them to switch to Psychological Types, would they all Jung it up?>>83877054>I have so many thoughts passing through my head that are too complex and intangible for my underdeveloped conversational facultiesI wonder is mismatch between psychometabolism volume (with context X) and level of X function differentiation should count in typing.That's a whole topic to be had here.
>>83878137>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person>everyone who disagrees with me is just malding
>>83878327Could have at least gone for pic rel.It would be completely impossible to argue against without also admitting we wasted god knows how many years bothering to analyze anything related to Jungian psychology.But I mean, I rest my case on the fact the other party was, in fact, assblasted.
>>83878347>you think this is all meaningless>you're assblasted
>statement X>statement YY'all are trolled now.
Man you are even more bored than I will ever be.Oh well, have a browser media player check. If the colors appear correctly, your browser is good, otherwise you are using some dogshit.
>>83878382>lazy meme>barely coherent text>no (You)You all was trolled!
>>83878193It's more like: normies, autists, midwits and cluster-B'ers>NormiesBasically hang on the sidelines occasionally interjecting small talk. Are agnostic with no strong opinions (unless attacked) &/or have a "lets just chill or be happy all the time" attitude. Regs: ESFP-Tan, Turbie>Autists Are "idiot savants" they'll be hyper obsessed with a few subjects making them basically experts in those areas, but will then be retards in every other area.Regs: patchy, TE>MidwitsAre what you call "trolls" they basically only come here to kill time and leave. This makes them smug since they feel they're above the drama and debates in the thread.Regs: INFJ-A, Mel, Rxy>Cluster B (BPD, HPD, ASPD, NPD)Have a casual disregard/hatred for everyone shown by hiding intent via gaslighting and word salad. Will also have a personality based purely around outward appearances.Regs: diarygirl, Mike
>>83878580>they basically only come here to kill time and leave>leave>infja>TE>expert in anything
>>83878580>Cluster Bthat's everyone on the list
i feel like a very brooding sensitive type, i look back on the past and feel it in a traumatised fashion, whereas i know people with whatever different personality, generally of sanguine temperament. They just don't give a flying fuck about the past, and they maximize joy in the present, how the fuck do they do that nigga. i'm here contemplating suicide n shit, sanguine niggas be dopamine maxxing like pic related
>>83878751Maybe your needs aren't being met Anon, and theirs are. So your question should be "How can I do more with less?"
>>83878751That's not typology talk time that's therapy time.>but therapists are rarely optimal for thisNeither are anonymous people lol, especially ever, extra especially here.
>>83878751I actually second the therapy idea, but with a caveat: Go at least 2 hours at a time, and only go if/when you have a goal in mind. Don't just go to go.
>>83878999>>83878805it is totally an enneagram 4 phenomenoa fuck you niggas therapy make me go joker mode on these society faggots
>>83879098>therapy make me go joker mode on these society faggotsSounds like an improvement over being a sad fuck
>>83879098You ought to honor my numbers.
>>83878751Ultimately you realize it has less to do about being sensitive, and more about the fact you literally cannot change the past. What you can do about it is only in the present and the future. So if you are really sad, you should be working on making something nice happen next.
>>83879205>>83879184>>83879140therapy make me joker mode on these society...FAGGOTS!
>>83879098Nope suicidality and envy aren't normal for any type.Even constant sadness (not depression) in itself can be irrelevant to types and mundane as psychological development, but ending up with trouble from that is not getting you anywhere.
>>83879245nigger doesnt know about enneagram 4 and literally how envy is its vice and how melancholy is the ego fixation. study up big boi
>>83879294Apparently 4's are just puer aeternus possessed. Makes sense why nearly every r9k poster is a 4.
>unhealthy behavior is "normal"Least unironically mentally ill troll wannabe.[///]I can feel it that the WW2 and all mythology milked from it completely warped my understanding of history circa 1840s.
>>83879305im not arguing against that, ur right..
So apparently enneagram is not a personality test, it's a "which archetype are you possessed by" test?Interesting
Holy intuitoid my man.Can't say I have checked whether you can map enneagram types to archetypes but that does sound incredibly wrong to me.
>>83879355That's more useful for most people, if only it was presented properly.
>>83879355>>83879376>>83879435Not a bad way to consider it but it is all over the place then.fyi Puer is technically Shadow Magician, or underintegrated magician, or magician of psyche under-developed in other quadrants well enough.Let's take it at face value.Let's talk Enneagram 5.Let's assess that it's Magician archetype (some Shadow form then, if any base enneagram and disintegration enneagram are Shadow forms, and integration enneagram is positive integrated form, just to fit devil's advocate narrative the best).Enneagram 5 integration path is 8.Disintegration is to 7.8 is Warrior archetype.7 is Lover archetype.Warrior and Lover archetypes are opposites.But neither are opposite to the Magician. Magician's opposite is King and those would be Enneagrams 1 2 3, arguably, with some mixes maybe.If you get the integration from 5 to 8 you'll just have a Warrior-Magician mix and that's it, the Enneagram wouldn't account for your further development of King-Lover mix side that'd be neglected, for example.So enneagram doesn't solve anything archetypally.It was made from adding positive changes to life, which basic integration theory might accommodate on surface value, but holistically it's only feeding into archetype Samsara.
>>83879464Think Enneatypes don't map too strictly, like you could argue 7 also fits Magician.
>>838795357 imo is the jester archetype
>>83879547Yeah but case in point. I can see there are some correlations with Jungian archetypes and enneatypes, but trying to map them 1:1 is what I wouldn't bother trying.
>>83879570myeah youre right, it is its own thing.
>>838795357 is absolutely Lover (no not necessarily in sexual or romantic archetype way, but as an archetype of joy).It's like the biggest Lover candidate dwarfing 9 and 2 (9 is a passive configuration Lover and 2 is King-Lover).Now 7w6 might be mixed with Magician (6 is basically Warrior-Magician as possible extreme paranoia fits) and 7w8 would be... A Barnum effect personality, or psychotic, or just not prominent in any archetype - that is, if we'd take both Enneagrams and Archetypes seriously.Of course I'm quoting Moore on archetype dynamics here (surprisingly fits enough to enneagram types).And of course you could approach archetype application here differently.But if you're doing archetypes, you'd end up dealing with quaternity to address, and not all enneagram types at all have a chance or an integration path to possibly involve all 4 archetypes even from mixes.
In effect Enneagram since Naranjo is about turning you into a productive and socially contributing persona, not addressing whatever you really could use to address.Item, its point d'appui is to de-entelechy you as if you're to fake a Big 5 persona.Really better get back straight to Gurdjieff.>>83879601Ok MAYBE 7w8 COULD be a magician warrior mix, but that'd be extreme lingo-archetypo-reconfig to delete any Lover traces.Unless 7w8 is suddenly full Magician then....hmm, like dissecting a common pebble after we've confirmed it's not a gem...I'd totally read other archetype framework attempts here though.
Speaking of 7isms>Idol Precures did so well they are considering a sequel Well well well, guess who's back on the menu? Just couldn't let go their own 7 Ne-groid girl. Of course not.>>83879601Was thinking about 7w6 yes. Which is why things get difficult to map (shouldn't it be a Lover/pseudo-Warrior mixed together?)
>>83879698stop with the autism bro, stop it. the enneagram 7, is clearly the jester archetype, the joker. you lack insight, you are an opinionated personality. likely a sensoid feeler. this is way out of your depth
Sensoid feeler is the new go-to type racism then.I bet *him* is a fucking IS(F)....
>>83879713>(shouldn't it be a Lover/pseudo-Warrior mixed together?)Per my devil's advocate whomstve I had not fired just yet despite that he wants to validate Enneagram fully and archetypally: either of the 7 subtypes are psychotic because they deal with compete opposites, and all held types are negative archetype types (or else Enneagram integration wouldn't be needed) so it's like DEMONICALLY psychotic.>>83879714Grow up. :)
>>83879773still waiting for der fuhrer infj-a to rise from the ashes and erase all sensoid feeler joos from this general
>>83879831I actually like vPatchy, even though i often disagree with him.
>>83879917you didn't like the previous one?
>>83879927I liked him too. He was always very good at puzzles. There aren't many people i thoroughly dislike, that i also bother to remember. We meet so few people in this life, and even fewer stick around, it's better to forgive what ever faults you find in them, or as many as you can.
>>83880079Who do you remember that you dislike?
*Iron Cross shaped anger vein* I'm still good at puzzles!The audacity to fail to connect a continuity to an imago whilst recommending Kierkegaard's book where he talks of imago constructions from the first pages! Good grief.Anyhow, as I'm impatient and leave listening to Moore for my transit...>remembering is viewing a snapshot/reel of memory >recollecting, a strenuous ideality, is reconstruction of memory Kierkegaard is arguably projecting his recall qualia process types as anyone's norms. Introvertoid audacity for sure.Actually, he's really selling recollection later as a construction of subjective psychological complex. Uno tenore parasites indeed. I had to present such as bloody sacrifice for my Active Imagination tribunal... Whoops, tangent.
I'm never in these threads but I took the test so might as well>>TypeISTP>>What's your biggest pet peevepeople assuming things about me>>What's your favorite YouTube channeltechnology connections>>What's your favorite ice cream flavorvanilla with any kind of fruit in it>>What's your favorite guilty pleasureguilty?>>What are you most nostalgic forold pokemon cards>>What's something that instantly improves your moodalcohol
>Inasmuch as one is always alone with recollection, every recollection is a secret. Even if several persons are interested in what is the object of recollecting to the one recollecting, he is nevertheless alone with his recollection -- the seeming public character is merely illusory.HMMM? TYPING PEOPLE TO FIGURE OUT PATTERNS OF THEIR LITTLE DIRTY SECRETS AS PER SUBJECTIVE FACTOR COMPLEXES?
>>83879831Nah I'm chill being ashes. It's nice a warm in here.
>>83880094Off the top of my head? (You), right now, for asking that question.Although something interesting did come of it, in that in looking through old note pads i found out that i had, at some point (all my notes are undated), a similar dream to one i had recently. The similarity is in holding an animal that is in convulsions. If anyone wants to take a shot at that one they're more than welcome to it.>>83880121>I'm still good at puzzles!Prove it.
>>83880306>Off the top of my head? (You), right now, for asking that questionYou are mean.
>>83880356I'm sorry. I like you again.
