You're supposed to meet people at university and build enough of a social circle that you're regularly invited to social activities and introduced to new people

>>83867100
1. find a few activities that allow you to make friends with people
2. let those new friends invite you to their social gatherings
3. profit

>goes outside
>talks to women
>not a single one of them gives the slightest hint she's into me
wow that changed everything im so glad i bothered

>>83867100
Further on that i have asked everyone i know and heres what they told me:
>family
They have no idea and dont teally inderstand why me and my 2 brothers are single while my 2 sisters got engaged at 19 to attractive
>coworkers
Told me to go to the gym/approach random people in the street and worst case scenario go to the philippines
>boomer landlord
Told me to dress well and approach random women in the street by saying " may I court you" like in thar meme
>male friends
All single, told me to go on dating apps
I am a bit at my wits end ane have no idea wtf am i supposed to do

>>83867147
I did, made a few friends that way but its all guys and when we do stuff together we just hang out between men.
Dont get me wrong i am super happy to have them around and going out wity them makes my week but i have never ever met a woman this way

You don't just go outside and talk to people... How does anyone give this retarded advice? Everyone meets people through mutuals. You make friends in school, uni etc. Then through them you meet other people. You need a social circle as a foundation, if you don't have that you're dead. You can't even meet anyone because the fact the you don't have friends or any social media presence at all is a red flag. So it's a feedback loop that keeps you isolated and there's nothing you can do about it now. Should've taken care of it in your teens or early twenties.

>>83867159
Philippines and dating apps are both solid ideas actually.
When you use dating apps you will be dealing with a ratio of like a hundred trash accounts vs. one viable woman to talk to, but it's the best low effort and low risk option there is.
And going to a foreign country where you get an advantage just for being white is obviously helpful. Unless you're not white and then that might not be as great of an option.

>>83867100
>literal troonbait gets 2.3m views

Nobody except for troon baiters and actual paid shills expect you to go out and just find a woman in the real world. It doesn't happen, having a woman for the average man is just not going to be a thing anymore, just like stable employment or home ownership. The sooner you understand that, the less disappointed you'll be.

>>83867186
>>83867133
>teenage years
Was working as hard as i can to get into a good uni, barely spoke to anyone.
Was sent ro an all male youth organization in the we
>university
Had about 2 years of normal college life then covid happened and i moved.
I have zero ties to my friends from colege anymore. Everyone drifred apart and i moved elsewhere for work

>>83867133
Tfw program is all men and everyone just goes to classed then goes home.

If you're in a major that's worth a fuck it's going to be mostly men.

>>83867186
>Everyone meets people through mutuals
No, lots of people just meet people through dating apps or random other online means too. Even now that I have a bunch of people I talk to through discord the ones I know with irl friends and family and everything still end up dating random people they recently met for the first time off 4chan or discord.

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>>83867159
OK. It's tough. But the only thing you NEED to do is this:
Be attractive.
No, I'm not meming. Fix your whole look so you fit into a "type", and by that I mean a sort of man who women find intriguing, for this you need to be somewhat handsome, have a fitting hairstyle and be somewhat in good shape. That's all. Once you reach this TRESHOLD (it absolutely is a treshold) you can just wander about doing random shit and girls will make it obvious to you that they like you. They will stare at you. Ask you stupid things. Do weird things with their hair. At this point you just have to say anything, anything at all, and follow up by asking their names etc, and get phone number/socials. Just focus on your look. After that it is easy mode.

>>83867153
Talking to women feels like pulling teeth when you're not Chad. You tell yourself you shouldn't have bothered. Women make me regret talking to them because they hate men and get off on wasting your time and leading you on. Women are Satan's minions.

>>83867100
Honestly I have no idea. The only person I know that's destiny anyone is my sister and she met her boyfriend while they were in high school.

>>83867229
Same. One sibling just went on bumble and picked the best man she could find amongst litteral thousands. One used another app idk which one and the third one got approached irl

>>83867100
Have you tried laying off tranime and talking to women?

>>83867159
When I was 24 I had a very well paid job in a prominent company. Still totally friendless, khhv, still not enough to ever afford to own my own living place (be it house or apartment). Top 1% earner in my city by the way.
Of course, I already had hobbies. Mostly solitary and too niche for there to be any meetups in my city.
So I went through the last the same way as you. I looked up all possible things I might see myself doing and all events and meetups. Like you found out, all hobbies/activities are ancient boomers or men only. And no, of course they won't help you find a gf. Why would they?
I didn't do church because I really can't see myself doing that.
I tried the gym and made very good strength progress over 4 years, but with a shirt on it makes absolutely no difference. Even with a shirt off, girls told me I look great but actually they prefer if I have a bit more chub on me. I ended up with a permanent injury due to a slightly bad posture exactly once when I was distracted and I can't do any exercise at the weight level where I could make progress any longer.
I went to professional hairdressers and stylists and while it's true that I have a strangely polymorphic face that is highly influenced by haircut (and in particular, a female hairdresser, after she was done, was genuinely stunned by my good looks), that still didn't really change anything.
Bars, like you said, were just men, with the only women there always being accompanied. Moreover, I have never seen, anywhere in life, a man approach a woman.

I then moved countries and suddenly I saw women alone at bars nodding at me to approach, people approaching women at bars and hobbies, women at hobbies at all, etc. I got a date and it lasted a few years. Still looking for someone who won't say she loves me just to monkeybranch later, but at least it's really looking up. And NONE of the usual memes have any relevance.

>>83867422
Thats what i am trying to do but i couldnt really get a visa anywhere else.
Also my family doesnt want me to quit my jobd and become a vagrant hobo again.

>>83867458
Your family is right. What you need to do is get a job first and let the employer sponsor your visa.
Don't get me wrong: if you don't have the right passport, it's an uphill battle. It's not like one of these memes where people say "haha you can't afford to live just move lmao".
But, it can be done and you can do it if you keep trying. It will take time and effort, though, and you can't just apply to any country at random and see where you land, you could easily be trapped somewhere worse, where the amount of money you earn will be too low to escape later.

If that is at all an option for you, try finding a remote job that would allow you to travel. This can help you find countries worth moving to, and it's easier to find jobs when you are in-person than through purely online means. Many managerial and classic desk-type jobs now have remote options, so it's worth looking into this.

Otherwise, I'm sure there is SOME way to work with what you have locally, it's just that personally I have never been able to make it.

>>83867509
>What you need to do is get a job first and let the employer sponsor your visa.
That will absolutely never happen. I work in finance and have never seen anyone get a work visa and litteral every job in anglo countries says "must be allowed to work in x country".
>remote jobs
Dont exist in my country, everyone wants wagies to come to the office 5 days a week which pisses me off because my job COULD be done 100% remotely but they wont do it.

>>83867576
That is highly unusual because I happen to be familiar with the finance job landscape and they very heavily higher from elsewhere. The caveat is they don't give a shit how smart or good you are, if you don't come from a good school your CV goes straight into the trash without ever getting looked at. Although to be clear I specifically mean backoffice fintech. I don't know about the rest.
Most jobs in general will say 'must be authorized to work', but not all. And it's not just shithole companies that don't say that. Just gotta filter them and see.

Have you tried looking at startups? They often are more flexible in their operations. It's a gamble, of course, but usually it's more stable than you might expect. As for remote jobs, look both inside but also outside your country.

All that aside, like I said, it's easier said than done. But you are wrong to say it "will absolutely never happen".

>>83867618
> you don't come from a good school your CV goes straight into the trash without ever getting looked at.
I assume youre talking about the US, i have some random law degree and i got into compliance/AML-KYC/fund admin without any issues because pretty much everyone is recruiting in that field.
If you dont mind telling which country did you move from and where to?
People have been telling me my only option to migrate is getting in on a working holiday visa , then applying to one of my old clients (got tons in canada/aus/nz).

>>83867711
>compliance/AML-KYC/fund admin
Yeah, that makes sense. Like I said, I only know about the fintech backoffice kinda stuff, I tunnel visioned a bit too much when I made my comment.

>If you dont mind telling which country did you move from and where to?
From Canada to Finland.
I try not to talk about how I got there because I was outrageously lucky but here it is: a startup in my domain of interest needed someone with my background to help build up the capacity they had just started working on. That specific company fancied themselves a "US-style company and totally not finnish" and had a weird idea that they wanted to hire only foreigners.

Job was fun but the politics weren't. In the end they cut off 90% of the workforce, but by that time I was sufficiently at ease that I got another job immediately without having to go home.

>>83867100
Yeah same, all my hobbies are all just men or old people. I even tried joining a few dance classes. One was exclusively 60+ year old couples, one was like 4 women with their boyfriends and 10 single guys like me looking to meet someone lol. And 99 times out of a hundred, if there is a social hangout for a hobby group, everyone that comes will be men. I was in a big mixed choir for a few years. After every big concert we would organise an after party. Every single time, the only people who would come are the men from the choir. It was an insane sausage fest.

I think this us the result of women being able to pick and choose from thousands of men at any mokent of their lives. So they no longer need to make effort to actually meet someone in real life. Whereas men can't do this. This is why women now are like "ew this guy who is my friend and whom ive been talking to a few months just asked me out on a date, ew, disgusting". Because women can be extremely, direct and go onto any dating app when they want sex or a relationship, so to them now it's weird that men irl still create relarionships the old fashioned way, by first getting to know the woman etc. So for the same reason, you have basically a zero percent chance of getting a relationship with a woman at any hobby, because 99% of the time the woman is there EXCLUSIVELY for the hobby and nothing else, because her social and sexual, needs are completely satisfied by dating apps. That's why you see so many women say "don't ask out women at hobbies", because to them it's a nuisance.

>>83867133
I study applied mathematics, there are only men here. I have a large social circle at uni, and they are all single guys. The few guys that have girlfriends had them since before uni. I actually know zero guys at my uni who got a girlfriend at uni or while studying at uni. To me it seems you either got lucky and got a girlfriend when you were still in high school or you are locked out of getting one.

>>83867731
Kek for me its the other way round, i am trying to go from western europe to canada.

>>83867212
Those people have friends outside tinder dates which makes the dating possible in the first place.

>>83867754
You are making a huge mistake. Everything you have heard about Canada is a lie. Feel free to ask any question.
I don't know where you are, but I strongly recommend coming to Finland if you want to move somewhere. My impression is that all nordic countries are at least as amazing as it is here but of course, I don't know that for a fact.

If you really insist on going to Canada, the usual pathway is to do a master's at one of the numerous degree mills, especially in Quebec (bonus points, though not required, if you know French to around B1 or B2 level). That is because Quebec has a special status and will issue you a permit very fast and with far higher acceptance rate. That permit will allow you to chain into a Canada permit (the latter is required to get in, even to get into Quebec, but if you don't get the Quebec permit first, getting the Canada permit is much slower/harder). Once you have both I believe you have to land in Quebec, but then you can move anywhere in the country as per the requirements stated in your visa.

But really, absolutely DO NOT do that. That will unironically be the worst decision you will make in your entire life. I promise you this.

>>83867774
I am a native fr*nch speaker. I stayed in canada for a while (illegaly in bc then to see my relatives in trois rivieres) and have family who moved to quebec a couple years back. Everyone here is dreaming about moving to canada. Found the country to be absolutely amazing compared to western europe which is basically a dying shithole.
Wish i could move to canada but ive done multiple assessment on their website and i am absolutely not eligible for a visa.

>>83867133
there are fewer than 20 women at my entire university of a few hundred people

>>83867774
My sis and my cousin all moved to quebec and they tell me its paradise on earth and that theyd never go navkbto europe. Met a bunch of other people who moved elsewhere in the country and they all tell me its much better.

>>83867812
If you know french or english are an adult, are not extremely old, and have a degree, you should be eligible. What's failing for you?

>Everyone here is dreaming about moving to canada
Instead of making the country livable for people, Canada spends the biggest amount of capital on foreign propaganda of any country. Of course everyone dreams of moving there. Everything you've ever heard about it is a lie.

> I stayed in canada for a while
How long is a while and how long ago was it? As in all things you will never know how life is like if you're on vacation somewhere. Everyone who goes and visits Paris loves it. What do the people who actually live in Paris think?

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>>83867100
Yall really need to understand that meta has changed and most young people meet each other in some way online. Whether it's through hookup apps, social media or even Discord. If you're not cultivating an online presence, you're just not playing the game right. If you're not telling every woman you meet to follow you on Insta, Snap and X, then you aren't trying hard enough. It doesn't matter if they fuck you, every follow is one step closer to impressing some chick enough to spreading her legs. If you aren't spending as many hours as women taking the perfect selfie for Tinder, then you aren't trying hard enough. Yes women care that much about a good photo. They pay hundreds for professional quality. Saying shit like
>>but I don't like social media, it's too much work
>>I dont care enough about other people to want to see that they are doing
>>Social media at that point feels like second job with how much you curate it
>>How am I supposed to get internet famous? I'm not a streamer or Youtuber
>>E-sex on Discord is cringe, even if it could lead to real sex
Well I guess you just dont want young pussy. Go fuck those boomers in bars who also refuse to learn the new meta

Refusing to learn how to sell yourself online is just as dumb as the boomers who didnt like the bar/club scene when that was the meta. My brother in christ how are you supposed to get pussy if you don't go where the pussy is?
>>but SURELY some women hate the online game as much as I do
Yes, but how do you or they expect to meet each other if you aren't online or in the clubs? If you're talking to her in some other online space then guess what? THAT ALSO COUNTS AS ONLINE PRESENCE. You're not better than anyone because you met her on some gaming forum instead of Hinge.
>Do women really care this much about social media?
Yes, and you're shooting yourself in the foot by not caring. So go hit the gym and thirst trap like the rest of us. Welcome to the new world

>>83867859
>know french or english are an adult, are not extremely old, and have a degree, you should be eligible. What's failing for you?
You need a job offer or experience in an in demand field and finance isnt part of it so unless i ditch everyone and spend what little money i have on studying to become a welder i wont get in.
>Canada spends the biggest amount of capital on foreign propaganda of any country.
Its much better than europe, i can tell you this much.
What little women i had in my company all tried to get married to canadians to get a visa. Was even planning on quitting everything and going on a working holiday over there
>How long is a while and how long ago was it
5 months in 2021
>Everyone who goes and visits Paris loves it.
Says noone ever. Noone who visited paris/france in general like it. Everyone knows its a miserable african shithole. The paris syndrom exists for a reason

>>83867133
De Ewige Schooler

>>83867186
What happens the minute you move to a different city?

>>83867923
If you chose to become an immigrant leech, thats on you.

>>83867100
>How tf do you meet/date people
Go where women are and talk to them

>>83867902
>You need a job offer
That's a big bonus boost but not needed. It's a point-based system.
>or experience in an in demand field
Yes, usually having a degree is enough (you don't get full points but you get enough).

But anyway this is for job immigration, where canada has some of the hardest criteria around.

What I said is to do a master's at a degree mill. The requirements are totally different. This is how pajeet and ahmed come to canada. You just enroll and never show up, start driving uber. It takes 3 years (not kidding) to get a PR decision. They can't kick you out while a decision is pending. If you get rejected, you can appeal, and they will take a minimum of one more year before responding, which allows you to stay the whole time. By the time you're done with all these things, you're entitled to apply for citizenship because you've lived in the country long enough. There are also many 10-year visas that have the same effect (but they're totally not permanent immigrants guys).
Even if you don't want to do the pajeet strat, you'll be able to complete the master's and convert to a work visa without the requirements as the initial entry. However, note that it will be extremely hard to find a job. First, the job market in Canada has been a joke for decades. Second, doubly so in quebec, they are extremely tribal and will not hire a french speaker, only fellow quebecers (and french-speaking jobs also pay nothing at all, literally they will require a phd for a standard entry level job in another country, and then tell you the best they can pay you is just enough so you can hang yourself at the end of the month).

>5 months in 2021
Yeah so obviously you know nothing, but also that's extremely suspicious since in 2021 the country was in a lockdown and you weren't allowed to get in or out except vaxmaxxed.

>Says noone ever.
Have you tried talking to people who go? They literally all love it and it always surprises me.

>>83867932
?????
I meant, you can't take your social circle with you, if you move to a different city (in the same country).

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>>83867100
>the assoooomer assooomung that we dont talk to women
i have approached 330+ women in my life in variosu enviroments from parks and libraries to laundromauts and streets. Guess how much i have gotten on my BPC

>>83867133
>>83867147
why the fuck would someone invite another man to a social activity and make the competition for female even harder? Thats like inviting someone to go mine gold with you. If you have found a spot where gold exists, you keep it to yourself, you dont invite randoms to join you.

>>83867953
>why the fuck would someone invite another man to a social activity and make the competition for female even harder
for the same reason taxes arent 100% of income. Raise it too high and no one will want to pay. No woman wants to go to a function where it's just one guy and lots of chicks. You cant fuck them all and even if you could, they wouldnt want you. Those men are loss leaders. They're there to attract women that you could potentially steal

>>83867947
>It's a point-based system.
Indeed. Thats the issue i have rn, i simply dont have enough points
>First, the job market in Canada has been a joke for decades
Its much worse in europe imo, many countries in europe have triple the unemployment rate of canada and even a simple fruit picker jobs can easily have hundreds of applicants
>country was in a lockdown and you weren't allowed to get in or out except vaxmaxxed.
Family made a fake certificate at a doctor. They gave me a qr code and all. It has always worked. 100% pureblood here.
>Have you tried talking to people who go? They literally all love it and it always surprises me.
To fr*nce lmao no. Noone who goes there enjoys it or has anything positive to say about it. Frence is a huge scam and the worst dump in the entire west

>>83867947
Canada mogs all of the EU together imo

>>83867133
I didn't go to Uni and I don't plan to. I don't want $100k of debt. Also schooler you should kill yourself.

You faggots make it such a big deal. Who cares what people would think of you, just talk to women. Talk to people. Be social.
The reason why I dont have many friends is because I actually hate being around people.

>>83868031
>Its much worse in europe imo,
This isn't an 'imo' thing. Talking about facts, canada is way, way worse than most (not all, you are right) european countries.
You forget that unemployment rate is calculated differently in different countries. In Canada, it is mostly calculated based on people receiving unemployment. The problem is that the unemployment is not generally being paid to people who are entitled to it. Firstly, it often takes between 6 to 12 months to even get a decision. Secondly, it is outrageously common for the people processing the cases to close files without making decisions to "lighten their workloads". You can look it up. I have been a victim of it and am owed over 16k CAD that I'll never see a dime of in my life, despite the ridiculous taxes I have had to pay the whole time. I then learned from public discussion that it's what happens to most claimants.
This also has the consequence of greatly reducing the supposed unemployment rate.

Further, if you dig into the stats, you will see that the majority of canadians are "employed" because they have been reduced to driving uber to make ends meet.

>Noone who goes there enjoys it or has anything positive to say about it.
I have lots of colleagues who go there religiously every year and they always say it's the best thing ever. It was the same when I was in Canada.
The worst reaction I have ever heard about Paris is "it was nice but I don't understand why it's so popular".

You clearly have never tried talking to someone going there.

Not that it's either here or there, the point of this is that you cannot know what life is like without living in a place.

>>83868046
The entire country of Canada is mugged by FUCKING manaus, brazil (a CITY in the middle of a JUNGLE in an impoverished country full of poor people).

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>>83868065
>canada is worse than most of europe
Its better than all of europe except MAYBE norway and adjacents.
But def better than places like italy, france, germany, belgium...
>Further, if you dig into the stats, you will see that the majority of canadians are "employed" because they have been reduced to driving uber to make ends meet.
A good chunk of people in france cant even feed themselves properly
>who go there religiously every year and they always say it's the best thing ever
Spent 5 months in canada and 6 over in alaska, went all around europe and never ever met anyone who didnt absolutely despise going to france/paris and said it was a waste of time/money.
On the other hand ive heard and seen only good things about canada which tells a lot about the absolute state of francistan
>the point of this is that you cannot know what life is like without living in a place
5 months in rural canada> having a 2 days instagram vacay in congolese shithole paris.
Western europe is a decaying shithole and france is the worst of the bunch by far.
I was litteraly not allowed to stay longer although i applied to all manner of jobs while there.

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>>83867100
This is the modern problem that no one can answer. It isn't just nerds unable to talk not able to do this, everyone is struggling.
>Churches?
A house of god should not be a dating service and the ideology there actively cock blocks you.
>bars
Over priced and suck
>hobby clubs
It's a start. Thing is if you go to a hobby club to get pussy you will stand out. If you go to a hobby you are interested in it's not likely that there will be pussy there.

What has worked for me.
>Concerts
good mix of people, reason to talk to one another, people like hooking up at shows.
>Conventions
similar to concerts, however I will say cosplayers ruined Anime cons. But you will have convos and meet people.
>Festivals
Depends on the type you go to but gives a reason to talk to people and a good mix of people to meet.

>>83868116
I'm starting to think you were making shit up from the beginning and you haven't even been 5 months in Canada.
For example, where the fuck did alaska suddenly come from? Do you think it has anything to do with Canada?
Virtually every single one of my colleagues who used to work in Canada moved elsewhere. Those who haven't either can't find jobs or have been stuck in the same junior role in over a decade. Those that went to the US are semi-successful, they got upgraded after what was obviously a hard fight, but it's the US so they earn 4x more and spend 1/2 as much on life, despite 1/2 the taxes.
The most successful are all in europe. A couple went to germany, one to France, a few in some random countries here and there, one in switzerland, and the majority are in the UK.
All of them have become group leaders of some kind. Some startup founders, some engineering managers at massive companies, some are profs now, etc.
And the market is even worse now than it was then.
The job market in europe is not great, but it's infinitely better than canada, this is simple fact.
Your statements are inconsistent with themselves but also with basic facts.
Statements that are clearly nonsense at a basic level despite being irrelevant to the conversaiton.

Very good troll though, since I have engaged for so long with you. Or maybe I'm just out of touch.

>>83868126
How do you talk to people at concerts? If you're at a classical concert or an opera it's all old people, and the more popular and contemporary music i listen to (jazz, progressive rock, bossa nova) is also just filled with old people. I tried going to a few metal concerts but those are just 130 decibel noisefests, you can't hear anyone around you during them. And I've never heard of anyone hooking up after a Brahms concert

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>>83868126
To add a part 2 to this.
The reason everyone has this problem now is social media made people lose their minds. You have entitled women desperate to be victims if you so much as speak to them for attention online.
We have businesses willing to throw people out or fire people if a woman so much as just FEELS uncormfortable.
Social media now purposely curates and manipulates what people see so everyone has distorted views or reality and 0 attention spans to listen to a story but paradoxically nothing to talk about. They just spew memes and phrases and virtue signals that stir a feeling inside of them.

And what caused this? Women asked for everything to protect them. Then they expanded the definition of protect them to include their feelings, not just their physical safety.
So thank you women, your non stop attention seeking, desire to never be made fun of so you become narcisists and your trust of government and corporations has broken everything. You will never take accountability for it.