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Gifts That Keep on Giving Edition

It's Momcest Monday! You guys know what it is all about, share pictures, thoughts, and stories of your own lovely mom, MILFs, or any other family you fancy. Whether it's your sister, brother, dad, aunt, cousin, etc go ahead and post about them. Discussion of the biology, poIitics, and psychology of consanguinamory (consensual incest relationships) is encouraged. Cucks, cuckspamming, fetishspamming, simping, and schizophrenic spamming ARE NOT ALLOWED!

Previous: >>83874835
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/83874835

Story Library: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQd5IRmkPtsZPdaLoh6_NTjLj9RsEyEz-tI-nITar_cjgJGH5YLRu9Trja2-7lzA4lk-K7BZ_ByadkS/pub
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What did you do for Valentines Day?
@r anon
@rlg
@Brosis
@Ass-Masseur
@confession anon
@OP-M
@errands anon
@auntfem
@Throatmom-anon
@Gothmom anon
@Improve anon
@punic anon
@D-cup anon
@Silver Fox anon
@Cuzcbro
@Dexter
@Hapa-chan
@Abusemom anon
@Mine anon
@Felix
@Enon
@Neet-chan
@Boobs guy
@Escobar
@Plankfem
@Catfish anon
@Nomi
@Uncle anon
@Jocasta
@Link
@Blackanon
@Convention Bro
@Winemom anon
@kels
@Waterpark anon
@Poetbro
@Autismom
@Imoutanon
@Any new people
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Taking it upon myself to give a thread PSA for ALL new to the /mcg/ GENERAL:
DO NOT Reply to the Cuckspammer.
DO NOT Correct the Cuckspammer.
DO NOT Believe the Cuckspammer.
DO NOT Call out the Cuckspammer on his lies.
DO NOT Reply to anyone replying to the Cuckspammer, as these replies are most likely him replying to himself in order to bait further replies.
Ignore the Cuckspammer and any ragebait no matter how retarded or persistent he is about his narratives.
You cannot prove him wrong no matter how wrong he is because he does not want to be proven wrong and potentially doesnt even believe what he is saying, he just wants (YOU)s and to take up thread space with spam and arguing in order to sage it as quickly as possible and prevent any actual on-topic discussion. Either that or he really has a sub-room temp IQ.
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>>83933814
Damn i fucked up and posted the incomplete one, this one is more detailed
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However dont let any of this distract you from the fact that the GOLDEN PATH has been revealed and a NEW AGE is upon us. The REVEREND ANONS have spent millenniums attempting to bring about the KWINCEST HADERACH, and the time has come for the final steps. Within a mere FIVE GENERATIONS of careful inbreeding between the main families of the momcest general, the GOD EMPEROR of /mcg/ will be born to lead us down the golden path of FAMILIAL LOVE.

LONG LIVE THE MOMCEST GENERAL.

INCEST ETERNUM.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3rQDQIzTHQ
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>>83933993
How went valentines?
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Came here to see what you sickos are up to.
Stayed for the cuckspammer.
But there are only like 4 messages.
Disappointed.
Pretty funny drama you got though.
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Reminder to completely ignore the schizo
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Remember to include the namefags who dropped the general over the larping tranny situation in the Weekly Updates section
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Valentine's Day reports please
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>>83933824
I think he timed this to take revenge for the increased activity and target the valentines mood.
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>>83933807
mommy only wants CHADSON's gift.
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>>83933807
If autismom is here I have a question
Why don't you assert dominance over your son?
You are the parent after all
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>>83933808
>@imoutanon
I guess that'd be me. I have a short updates for the weekend, I'd expand on them later.
Friday, talked with C about her going up the corporate ladder and feelings.
Saturday, G and C had breakfast together with mother and aunt, will share a picture.
Sunday, aunt wants to hook me up with an old classmate, a bit of a nuisance. Also, cousin's relationship had a sudden and messy end.
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>>83933993
call me crazy but this doesnt come off as all that optimistic
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>>83933993
inb4 he confessed to poetsis and got btfo
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>>83936067
confessions rarely work, action is better
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>>83933993
Poetbruh youve usually posted 15 times by now what gives
Dont tell me you got rejected and killed yourself :(
At least tell us the valentines details before you ropemaxxx nobody likes a cliffhanger
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>>83936286
>Poetbruh youve usually posted 15 times by now what gives
i think he said last thread that he was starting to work again this week so hes probably just at work, pls no schizotheories
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>>83935373
Ngl trying to read your posts last thread amidst all the spam was giving me an aneurism, can you do a quick tldr on your current relationships with these womens and the circumstances leading up to you coming here?
>>83933993
Poet what the fuck happened, dont fucking kill yourself nigga
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>>83934667
Oh and by the way Dexter popped in one of my bait threads over weekend
Look at him, he knows it's ragebait and he's still answering earnestly
So cute, no wonder his mommy loves him
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>>83936571
dexanon is a realest momma's boy, just like felix
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>83936571
Highly doubt this was dex since it was obvious you were the op of that thread and he had denounced you barely a day prior
Was probably you pretending to be dex like you did for all the other people to make yourself feel cool
Either that or it was just some other anon
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>>83933807
Last Week's Updates

Autismom
>>83874990

Poetbro
>>83875109

Brosis
>>83875572
>>83911980

Nomi
>>83879361

Imoutanon
>>83888901

Dexter
>>83893343

Improve anon
>>83899733
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>>83933993
>Oh, blue angel, don't you cry
>Just because he said goodbye
>Oh, no no
>No, don't cry
>Oh, blue angel, have no fear
>Wash away lonely tears
>Please, please, please, please
>Well, love's precious flame just burned in vain
>Well you're not to blame
>Even love was a game, oh, such a shame
>Don't cry, don't sigh, I'll tell you why
>I'll never say goodbye, blue angel
Poetbro what does this mean
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>>83912152
Does it count as cuckold if the mc fucks his friends mom?
It's a mom swap
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Imagine your dear mom getting impreganted by a guy your age. Would be so frustrating lmao
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>>83935373
>cousin's relationship had a sudden and messy end
Time to be her cousin to cry on
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>>83936461
QRD
Sister G
>is gay, has aspergers, is 5 years younger than me, the shortest one of us siblings
>I asked her for sex when our family was in a dark place at the time
>shit hit the fan and our mother gave me a second chance
>we get along better now than before the incident
>is the closest to C

Sister C
>is 11 years younger than me, has a bf, currently working and studying, is looking to leave town in 3 years, taller than G
>currently trying to get closer with her
>trying to get closer before and dealing knowing about her bfs have left me in despair

Cousin
>is 2 years older than me, single mother, gym rat, left home at 19
>has been jumping from relationship to relationship the past 5 years, son-zones every guy she's been with in that time
>shorter than C, taller than G
>currently on a self destructive work routine, high chance of untreated mental issues
>says she loves me and has wanted me to be a father figure for me nephew
>I'm sure a long term relationship won't work between us if it were to happen, wouldn't mind a short lived one

Imoutanon
>a loser in life, 30 years old, had his only gf so far for 5 months
>has been into his mom, 3 cousins, sisters during his life
>people, friends and family say he's supposedly handsome and has a nice voice; I think they're all pulling an elaborate prank on me
>was a neet for 3 years until 2020 hit, spent too much time playing mahjong
>the last "new" videogame he's finished was GTA 4, 3 years ago
>has been into incest way before consuming incest media, anime and such
>found /mcg/ through /a/'s imouto threads, not an /r9k/ native, doesn't even watch anime anymore
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>>83937280
Black women taste better
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I want to at least caress my mom's fat ass. What do i do?
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hej everyone, i hope it's okay for me to be here, i hope everyone still had a nice week last week.
I saw last week when i checked in that there was a ton of new messages and everyone was arguing and it was also about me, and i remember last time when it happened and i chose to reply to people, it just made them even more angry at me, so i decided to not check in or read any of the arguing stuff from last week and just wait until the next week.
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>>83937690
>i hope it's okay for me to be here
Of course, post where you feel comfortable. shitposters exist everywhere it's a hazard of 4chan.
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I don't think I'm attracted to my sister, I just think she's more attractive than most women.
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>>83937690
Sup, dude?
Sure, keep talking to yourself and pretending to be a teenage girl
The general is dead without you anyway
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>>83937690
hey nomi, yes it's ok to be here, ignore the trolls.
how was your Valentine's Day?
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>>83937770
They don't celebrate that in swedenistan but let's see what bullshit he comes up with
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Ignore cuckspammer
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>>83937857
If it turned out poetsis had a boyfriend all along then "cuckspammer" will become poetbro's new title lmao
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>>83937690
Heya nomi, glad you decided to stick around and ignore the ragebaiter. Is bromi back from his trip? Did you get up to anything this weekend?
>>83933993
>>83936286
>>83936305
What timezone is poetbro even in? Like surely hes just at work rn but at what point do we actually start to consider that something happened on valentines and he necked himself? That song + pic of micolash kinda feels grim.....
>>83937865
Think poetcuck would fit better lmao
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anyone got links for actual videos of true incest? i'm in too deep and can't get satisfaction unless it's the real deal
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>>83937931
Do you have a time machine back to the 00s?
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>>83937904
>>83936904
The fuck is with this poetbruh suicide narrative? He probably just woke up in the middle of the night and posted because he was "yearning". Hes est, so hes probably still at work now. i gaurantee that he'll pop up in 2-3 hours with a 5 post wall of text about his valentines day that resulted in 0 sispuss. This place really has become a schizo haven
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>>83938060
>gaurantee that he'll pop up in 2-3 hours with a 5 post wall of text about his valentines day that resulted in 0 sispuss
https://youtu.be/YtYAXtiFp-s?si=_57DmM0EqoTy4jSB
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>>83938073
Imagining poet at work lurking in the thread counting the seconds pulling his hair out and fuming because everyone is posting that he killed himself instead of eagerly anticipating his next nothingburger blogpost
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rest in piss poetkek
you were pretentious and annoying but the siscon shitposts were funny
>>83933993
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Did you remember to offer a massage on saturday?
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>>83933993
dont be sad poetbro, we are here for you
also dont be dead that would suck lol
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>>83938506
Gave my mom a foot rub in the afternoon on valentines and I think it turned her on but she wouldnt ever admit it
Face was super red and she kept making little moans and shifting on the couch
Swear I could smell her puss dripping into her panties
Called me a sweetheart and gave me a hug and a kiss then went and took a long shower
Jerked off outside her bedroom door imagining her masturbating in the shower
Dont really have any interest in actually fucking her but the fantasy is hot
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>>83939007
Getting mommy horny like a good son
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>>83935000
Mommy and CHADSON make the perfect couple..
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Does /mcg/ have any chess enthusiasts?
https://lichess.org/TlWLO6Nn/black
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My mom got a new nightgown which I saw her in tonight. She is a little chubby so it looked kind of tight. I immediately noticed how much it was hugging her big ass. But then she turned around and I swear I saw her belly button with how much it hugged her belly, like those exaggerated anime dresses. I got kind of hard right there ngl. It's sadly not as see through as her other gowns which I can clearly see her thongs in.
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>>83933808
Nothing really related to the threads. We did Valentine's lunch the day before, so day of was spent at home. Spent most of the day doing stuff with an online friend. Movies and such. The highlight was probably watching the baby trying to bob and sing along to some of my music. It's pretty cute when they don't know all that many words yet and can't say all of them properly. Apparently I was the same way at her age.
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>>83933993

when were you when poet bro dies?

i was sat at home eating sister pussy when pjotr ring

'poem is kill'

'no'
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>>83940087
Sounds very cute. what songs was she jamming to?
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>>83940120
It was Dolly Parton, specifically 9 to 5 and Jolene. I'll probably add some more similar stuff to the playlist for her tomorrow. Most of my music is pretty different from that stuff.
>>83933993
Hopefully Valentine's Day wasn't as bad as this song makes it seem.
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>>83936286
We shouldnt jump to conclusions: instead we must imagine poetbruh drowning in so much sisterpussy that he doesnt have time to tell us how good it is
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>>83940180
Brosis place your bet is poemcuck suicide or too busy slamming sis to talk to us
good song choice tho, grew up hearing my mom singing those two. your kid will probably remember these days fondly in the back of her head :)
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>>83940233
My guess would be things didn't go well. Hopefully I'm wrong. It's possible they're cuddled up in bed together right now.
>grew up hearing my mom singing those two. your kid will probably remember these days fondly in the back of her head :)
I'm sure she will. I still remember a lot of the music I would listen to with my mom when I was a toddler. She was really into Nirvana back then.
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>>83940271
Brosis lewd question but when you and your brother get down and dirty do you or have you ever dirty talked like your pic related? begging to be knocked up? also did you get any brotherdick for valentines or just the company?
>It's possible they're cuddled up in bed together right now
Hope so. kind of worried :/ probly jus overthinking because of all the shitposting tho
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>>83940318
I'm vocal when we're together yeah. I have also specifically begged for him to get me pregnant. It's a little embarrassing to mention but I'll repeat myself when I'm close to finishing. So it becomes a lot of "I love you" or "Don't stop" or "Do it inside" when I'm almost there.
>also did you get any brotherdick for valentines or just the company?
We had sex and then had time after to cuddle for a while. Obviously more time would be nice but it was nice anyway. Cuddling with him is the best, always makes me feel so safe and loved. He was rubbing my stomach while we cuddled after, it was nice. Could go for that again tonight honestly
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>>83940180
As a woman, do you feel guys' foot fetishism is just retarded?
Asking because of that image, lots of foot stuff in tcoal fanart
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>>83940397
I don't understand foot fetishism. I don't HATE it, but I don't get the appeal. I like the artist's work though and he's a foot guy.
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>>83940424
i think women can have cute feet but i dont consider them sexual. would probably let a girl jerk me off with them but i dont think it would be my first choice.
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>>83936703
Nah that's him alright, he's got that "momma's boy but trying to play it cool" energy he always brought here
All this feet talk reminded me of him
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>>83940385
>We had sex and then had time after to cuddle for a while. Obviously more time would be nice but it was nice anyway. Cuddling with him is the best, always makes me feel so safe and loved. He was rubbing my stomach while we cuddled after, it was nice.
Manifesting this for brother poet instead of these retards trying to manifest his suicide. let the man have a win fr
That post is hard to reconcile though desu thats some doomer shit
I dont think weve ever had a suicide in mcg have we? He didnt seam like the type to just instarope
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>>83940539
He ain't dead, just dead inside
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>>83940539
His first post here literally ended in "should i kill myself?" or some shit
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>>83940560
Oh fuck lmao
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All 3 larpers back together again. Lmao
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>>83933807
Reminder to report nuisance posts
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>>83940539
Poet literally came here asking if he should kill himself because of loving his sister

Nomi literally came while she was homeless because she ran away from home and was in process of killing herself, she just didn't go through with it

And then there were some others before. There was this one girl, bpd-chan we called her, and she was very mentally ill and went radio quiet out of nowhere, i knew 2 people IRL who were heavy bpd and both ended up killing themselves, so possible suicide there as well, but let's hope not
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>>83941026
>And then there were some others before.
I'm sure there's a lot of posters that have been suicidal without saying anything about it here. I was one of them and the worst thing I posted was some rants about how I mean nothing to my mom, that love isn't real and stuff like that, a few posts may have been somewhat unhinged. I got over it, but I bet there's a significant amount of anons that didn't.
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Well fuck

I fucking hope poetbro didnt kill himself because that would really throw a wrench in the lineage of the royal family of /mcg/ i put together

Made these for posterity's sake. hope they arent the last we get. hope hes just busy with poetsis and were all freaking out over a bunch of nothing

Poetbro i know theres a lot of riffing on you recently but theres plenty of us here who can lend an ear if your in a bad way

>>83933993
talk to us guy
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>>83941210
Reading pic related back it doesnt seem like he was in the mindset of "kill myself if poetsis doesnt want to fuck" so i think he probably didnt even make a move and is just in his feelings

He didnt seem to really be planning any big moves for a while anyways so unless he went full retard and dropped his speghetti during his valentines date its probably just something totally mundane
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>>83938060
>i gaurantee that he'll pop up in 2-3 hours
lol
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>>83941301
5 more minutes and he'll be back r-right guys..? Just 5 more minutes???
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Can yall just quit it with the poetbro suicide posting already its bumming me the hell out and bloating the thread
Like what is this, some sorta dead poet society?
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>>83940385
Remind me again when your next ultrasound is?
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>>83941331
>Like what is this, some sorta dead poet society?
Awful
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Saw mention of this general a week or so ago on /b/, dont know if what i have to share is of any interest.
Not a current event, but for 12 years my mother and I had a sexual, somewhat romantic relationship. Ended when I was 27, when she killed herself.
Been 4 years since. Currently dating a 52 year old woman whose son died when he was very young and whose husband left shortly after.
Been together almost 18 months now. We are both self aware enough to know its not a great relationship. Neither of us are very happy people. I call her mom, mommy, mother, etc... and she calls me her baby boy. Maybe that sounds hot, but we've both got issues. Using eachother as coping mechanisms. She knows about everything that happened with me and my mom.
Ask whatever you want. Wont be able to answer tonight, but ill try to tomorrow.
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>>83941529
>Not a current event, but for 12 years my mother and I had a sexual, somewhat romantic relationship. Ended when I was 27, when she killed herself.
Could you expand on your childhood with her? Were you always very close with her? Also could you fill out this chart?
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>>83938506
Not on saturday but i did plenty.
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>>83933807
has anyone ai generated porn of their moms? what system did you use to make it?
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>>83940087
>Apparently I was the same way at her age.
Well that seals it, she really is your daughter aliens didn't implant some other woman's egg in you and the piskies didn't swap her with a changeling after all.
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Mommy is doing laundry!
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>sleep for 9 hrs
>wake up
>check thread
>still no poetbro post
stomach in knots atm
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>>83942934
If you're here for poetfag spam, you need to leave.
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It's his own fault for waifufagging the doll when Kos(or some say Kosm) was right there
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>>83943000
>no... we shall not abandon the dream!
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>>83941529
>>83941551
Do this one too
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Months since winemom anon's first appearance and he still can't find 15 mins to post a coherent story. Sad.
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>>83941551
>Could you expand on your childhood with her?
I was the result of a short fling with a guy who took off as soon as she found out she was pregnant. I dont think she ever wanted to have a kid. She never seemed like the type of person who had any idea how to take care of herself on her own, at least not "well". I dont think she was ever diagnosed with anything but i suspect now she might have had bipolar and maybe aspergers. She was very awkward and nervy and always up and down from soft and gentle and miserable and crying.
She wasnt a bad mom. She loved me, but didnt say it much. She wasnt a big talker, house was always very quiet. She always made sure i was fed, but there was never proper "meal times", just whenever she remembered, i guess. She got our house from our grandparents when they passed, and made okay enough money at her job to make sure i never did without. House was always in disarray. We never had guests.
>Were you always very close with her?
Not really. She never really knew what to do with me when i was little. She didnt neglect me, but there wasnt a lot of kisses or hugs. She would take me to the park, but then just sit on the bench the whole time and not say anything. Take me to the fair and just walk me from ride to ride. Kinda always felt like she was just copying what she saw other parents did. We would watch movies together in the evening and thats usually when she would talk the most, pointing out stuff to me. She breastfed me until i was seven or eight or something like that, and it only stopped because i found out that it wasnt typical somehow and asked to stop. I dont remember it being a big deal to her.
>Also could you fill out this chart?
Attached it on the side. Small checks are "kind-ofs", examples being that she was heavier, but not as chubby as the example, and she wore "mom jeans" sometimes, but more often sweatpants.
>>83943112
H, but tits more like G. They were huge, especially because she was really short, 4'10 or 4'11.
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>>83943245
>>83943112
Sorry meant to link to:
>>83943093
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>>83937280
she has told me she finds guys my age too taboo
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>>83943245
How did she handle the progression of your relationship with her? Was she ever resistant?
>i suspect now she might have had bipolar and maybe aspergers
You feel like this is the reason for her suicide?
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>>83939007
>Jerked off outside her bedroom door imagining her masturbating in the shower
>Dont really have any interest in actually fucking her but the fantasy is hot
saying this after all that makes you sound like the biggest bullshitter ever.
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>>83943394
>How did she handle the progression of your relationship with her? Was she ever resistant?
Never resistant besides a bit at the beginning. It developed pretty quickly. It was just something we did. It just sort of happened. It was around the time i found out how to jerk off. I guess her parenting style didnt really instill me with a deep sense of shame or privacy, so if i was horny in the living room and she was like in the kitchen or something, id just sort of jerk off right there under a blanket. Now and again she would catch me and just say i shouldnt do that or that i should do it in my room.
We didnt do sex ed in my school, so I remember a few talks where i was asking her about why it felt good and stuff like that, and she always gave me very honest answers. I started asking her about her body, if she did stuff like that, and she said yes. I was crazy horny as a kid, so at some point during one of these talks i do remember straight up asking if we could have sex because i wanted to feel what it was like. I was a shy kid with 0 experience with girls, but like i said, there was never any shame or embarassment between us. I think she turned me down a few times, but then i think i did something ballsy like rub her crotch while we were watching a movie and we wound up in the bedroom. It was a long time ago, i really dont remember the specifics. I just remember it happened quick. After that it just became a frequent thing we did. I would engage most often at first, but after a few months she would come to me too. We would kiss and cuddle outside of sex too. I was full on in love with her before i was out of highschool. Never dated. She seemed to enjoy it and we got very close once the sex started. She would sometimes bring up me being with other girls but i had no interest. I was very posessive of her.
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>>83944037
>>83943394
>You feel like this is the reason for her suicide?
Yes, she wrote a very long letter. Dont want to detail it, but the bulk of it detailed how she felt like she wasnt a person/didnt feel like one. Pages of describing not feeling human. Awful.
She was also ashamed of letting our relationship become what it did and how much she enjoyed it. Found out she'd gotten a ton of abortions because i never was careful and that weighed on her, as she was very religious. Birth control made her crazy and anytime she asked me to wear condoms i just said i didnt want to and she never pushed it. She was a pushover i guess. I never thought it was a big deal. She said she loved me and was sorry she wasnt a better mother and just wanted me to go have a normal life. I just wish she'd talked to me.
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>>83944046
How is your relationship with your pseudomom? How much does being together dull eachother's pain?
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>>83941529
Which anon is this, I'm new here
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>>83944249
Dont know about dulls. Distracts maybe the better word. Fills a mutual void. Probably does the two of us a lot more harm than good. Neither of us are the happiest, both stunted in our own ways. Its a crutch we lean too heavily on. Doesnt help that shes got a bunch of money from her parents inheritance so neither of us have to work. Just feed off eachothers pain and sexual appetite and desperation for affection. I do love her, though. No question that were both too far to ever have normal relationships. For better or worse we'll be with eachother till the end.
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>>83944046
>She said she loved me and was sorry she wasnt a better mother
Oh boy... I hope this isn't how most "success" cases end up...
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Damn this is a depressing ass thread
Poetbro can you please us any indication you havent offed yourself? Me sad
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>>83940451
Maybe I just don't get it because mine are pretty messed up from walking weird (and so often).
>>83940539
Not so sure things went well for him to be away this long but I hope he's alright.
>>83941336
It's usually done between 18 and 22 weeks, and I'm hitting week 17 this week. So it'll probably be a bit yet just to make sure they can actually see the gender(s).
>>83942168
Always possible her dad is a pixie and passed those genes down. Gotta stay vigilant or I might wake up with my spirit trapped in a sword or something.
>>83941529
>>83943245
>>83944037
>>83944046
I'm sorry, Anon. Glad you found somebody who can at least distract from the pain.
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>>83944353
Could you do the mom chart again but for your mommygf?
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Does the Story Library get updated anymore?
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>>83944669
Brosis, you will never be this comfy, how do you feel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyg8uyHNfBk
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>>83933993
Just another reminder that were all here for ya poet. Hope nothings wrong, but if it is, you can tell us, aye?
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guys i think we scared off nomi again with all this talk of her white knight blowing his brains out
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>>83944669
Since you are the resident incest pregnancy experiencer could you talk about the practicalities, do they do any tests that could determine your child's parentage, did they bring it up if there were?
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Average brosis story
>Yeah so me and my bro/sis used to or still do fuck each other a lot and we're on good terms.

Average momcest story
>So my dad died/left me when I was a baby so my mom spawn camped me and raped me to cope. Also we're poor and our lives are falling apart plus I'm suicidal.
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>>83945178
Yeah I mean it checks out. The barrier to overcome between Mom and Son would definitely be weakened by significant trauma and the desire to have certain roles filled by someone you already love. Plus it would be a hell of a challenge to get your mom to fuck you if dad was still in the picture. Obviously though the Oedipus shit comes with a whole lot of fucked up dynamics which would cause some mental fuckery.

Brother sister shit would be much "easier". Several people have mentioned discovering porn early being a cause for them to start fooling around with their siblings. Others have mentioned abusive parents driving them together. The hurdles to overcome in a brother/sister relationship arent as severe as mother/son, mainly just being the whole being related bit. Power dynamics are pretty even assuming closeness in age. Far better chance of "success" and less risk of mental collapse. Easier for such a relationship to be casual.
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Aight its been a hot minute since ive been in one of these threads, can someone give me a run down on who the fuck this poetbruh dude is and why he commit an hero? dont want to go through the archives lol
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>>83945178
>Also we're poor and our lives are falling apart
Going through all the namefags we've had over the years and this doesn't feel like the average at all
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>>83945178
There wasn't much drama in most of our success stories. Dexanon, Felix, punic...? Quite smooth
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>>83945257
Guy in love with his younger sister comes in like three weeks ago
Posts walls of text saying how much he loves her and dreams about breeding a dozen kids with her
but she can never know his true feelings
dubbed poetbro because of the verbosity
she's moving in with him in a few weeks
she discovered she was having problems with her birth control implant so they're trying to get it removed
he said they were going on a sort of valentines date to make her feel better or something
monday morning he posts that unsettling video and just leaves instead of his usual 5+ posts describing how cute she is

>we are here

If I've missed any key details someone correct me.
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>>83944962
If they checked for that it hasn't come back to me in any way. Where I am they check for heart defects and such with a newborn. I've heard from others (but can't confirm) that in some places where they do those tests, they tend to just quietly overlook who the parents are.
>>83944902
Gets pretty comfy here with my heated floors and my warm blankets and a big bowl of chili.
>>83945178
Can't speak for other brother/sister couples, but for us the bad is just mostly in the past.
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>>83945319
Oh so he didnt actually seppuku he is just MIA presumed KIA?
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>>83945178
both wrong and hilarious for you to post this now of all times lmao
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>>83944951
Damn this is actually sad as fuck
Dw nomi-chan Im sure big brother poet is fine
Would be funny as hell if he ends up just showing up and like "oh shit lol my bad guys was busy with work everything is chill"
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>>83937690
Nomi is your brother back home yet; how did react to the poem?
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>>83935373
Considering my reluctance towards crossing the line with my sister or cousin, I'll post the some updates and one more story about my cousin then I'll come back after something really major happens, if it ever does happen.
To make things clearer regarding some other stories, after my parents broke up I went to live with my father, and my sisters went to live with our mother. Currently, my mother, aunt, a male cousin, a tenant and 2 sisters live in the same house, while my father and I live a small 5 min car ride away from their place.

Something new about C, 2 weeks ago I went to pick her up from her Saturday job and was captivated by her outfit. A brown and orange striped long sleeve shirt, baggy jeans, while wearing low double braids, like pic related (very difficult image to search for wtf). Such a casual outfit, so simple, yet so effective to my senses. I wanted to compliment her beauty right away, but that'd be too much, so I only told C that I really liked her braids, made her look cute, while playing with her left braid.
Fast forward 5 days, after shortly seeing her only 2 times during those days, I went to my mother's place and found C doing her laundry while wearing the same hair style, I didn't talk to her since she was busy and wearing earbuds. I don't remember her using that hair style ever before, I'll be sure to tell her next time, she looks so cute.
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>>83945642
You could say something like they make her look so cute you could hug her.
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>>83945431
I'm not caught up to current events, did someone like kill themselves?
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>>83945319
you forgot to mention that he is a massively swole ripped genetic anomaly freak of nature freudian kafkaesque philosophical giga chad slavoid super human intellectual weapon 10x boxing champion soldier of christ sent on behalf of the almighty god to protect imoutos the world over
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>>83945879
Yeah poetbro blew his brains out on the state street bridge
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>>83937904
>>83937770
>>83945540
>>83945554
hej everyone, i'm sorry i wasn't around, i guess i was just pretty anxious about it. Also i hope nothing bad is going on with the other guy that talked to me. I promise i will come tomorrow and read the replies and reply to stuff.
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>>83945906
And how does your penis fit into all of this?
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>>83945906
>the other guy that talked to me
Lmao poetcels on suicide watch now more than ever
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>>83945906
Nomi remember to ignore the cuckspammer and his spamming
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>>83945948
>cuckspammer and his spamming
Yeah poetbro do be spamming and do be being a cuck
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>>83945950
poetkeks, our response???
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>>83945886
All that tryhard pseud shit and his sister had a boyfriend all along lmao
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I like how cuckspammer is trying to shoehorn in this poetbro cuck angle to fit his fetish
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>>83946032
Personally I'm a big fan of how the man behind the nomi character pops up to see if the coast is finally clear and since it isn't he slinks back to his larp cave
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I hope everyone is having a good day.
I hope poetbro is doing well and returns soon.
I hope brosis is comfortable and her little ones are growing strong.
I hope nomi and bromi are having fun catching up on lost time.
I hope imoutoanon is able to make something work with one of his prospects.
I hope deadmom anon is able to attain true happiness with his mommy gf.
I hope op is proud of the community he has fostered in spite of its flaws.
I hope cuckspammer finds peace and room for joy in his heart.
I love everyone!!!! I love /mcg/!!!!!!
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>>83945300
He was 25% right, the dads were out of the picture in all success cases other than resort anon
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>>83944353
Hows the sex with momgf? What are your days like? Relationship dynamics?
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Dadcest side thread
>>83946137
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>>83937301
I tried to contact her yesterday to no avail, I thought she might've been focused at work. Until I saw her in her pajamas today, she was going out with my aunt and nephew, she just told me "How are you, handsome?" gave me a peck on the cheek and went away. It looks like she might've finally taken a day off.
>>83945680
Sure, that's the gimmick of the imouto threads, I'll post results too. I ask her for one every time I can and she doesn't look unwilling.
>>83944353
Man, that was a sad story to read. I hope everything works out for you two. Even if it's a cope, having someone to share such experiences with is far better than having to endure it alone.
>>83946189
Cute positivity, anon. We all need it right now.
>make something happen
I hope.
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>his sister has a bf
I think it's more a case of he tried making a move on her, she rejected him, he tried forcing himself on her like a sperg, she REALLY rejected him and now not only is she not moving in with him but the rest of the family he talked all that shit about know he's a sick pervert.
Possibly has the mounties on his ass too.
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>>83946533
No reason to jump to the absolute worst case scenario yet Hapa-chan. When Felix got rejected at first he went silent for a couple days too, I don't think /mcg/ has seen the last of Poetbro yet.
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>>83946533
I'm subscribing to this theory as well, those hopeless romantic types deal are at the end of the day just emotionally unstable and they don't deal with rejection maturely
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Here are the weekend updates.
Friday
>C's boss is quitting and wants her to take his job
>C's unsure about it, boss' supervisor assures her that she'll be a figurehead for the time being and it won't interfere with her studies
I went to pick her up from work and asked her what she thought about it. C says she'll take it just for a couple of months before she starts her internship. She's not pursuing a corporate job or big commitments, she wants to skip town as soon as she can after all.
I told her that I'd support her with whatever she decides, in work or life, also told her that she's very important to me and I only wish the best for her, to triumph where we (family) couldn't. I heard her breathing heavily after I started talking, maybe she expected me to say something different, I don't know. I barely talk about myself to my family so that could've been the reason.

Saturday. The women in the family went for breakfast at the restaurant my cousin manages, I was invited but was unable to go due to work, as it's the case every Saturday. My cousin invited me to watch the superbowl there, but I thought it'd be crowded, so I didn't. Turns out, nobody went there that day, according to her, it made me feel bad.
Unable to see in pic. G has no jewelry at all, in contrast, C wears multiple bracelets and has 7 or 8 earrings counting both ears.

Sunday. Aunt wants me to talk with an old classmate of mine, date her even. This girl's my nephew's aunt, his dad's cousin, and all of this is annoying to me because she and I were always happy joking about being sort of related because of our cousins dating and later because of our nephew. When we were classmates I only ever saw her as someone cute rather than attractive because she's always being chubby, cheerful and only ever hang out with other girls like her. I picture her being like a character from sanrio.
Either way, I will have to contact her eventually just to satisfy my aunt, or she'll keep nagging me about it.
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>>83946607
>My cousin invited me to watch the superbowl there, but I thought it'd be crowded, so I didn't. Turns out, nobody went there that day, according to her, it made me feel bad.
Was she intending this as a date or does the rest of your family dislike her?
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>>83944669
>>83946481
Thank you both.
>>83944833
Alright well for MomGF
>>83943093
B but tall and a bit more tummy. Shes actually notably taller than i am, and im no slouch.
Have the other chart attached to the side.
>>83946323
>Hows the sex with momgf?
Constant and varied. I have to take supplements to keep up with her. Its the main coping mechanism between us. I dont think we've fucked less than 3x a day since week 2, double that isnt out of the norm. We operate on a "wherever, whenever" policy when in the house. House fucking reeks of it. We each have tells to dictate what sort of sex were in the mood for. She more often prefers it pretty damn rough, i generally lean towards more lovey dovey bullshit. Both switches when it comes to top or bottom. Likes to watch me jerk off as well, drools like a dog. She'd lick my cum off the floor if i shot it there, not that i would.
>What are your days like?
Outside of the sex, normalish. We do live more like mother and son. She spends a lot of time playing piano or watching italian soap operas. She likes when i do "young boy stuff", so i do a lot of gaming and painting minis. She likes to watch me and talk to me while i do it. Im not complaining. We spend a lot of time together. We do regular dating stuff like dates as well and sometimes i slip into a more masculine skin when shes depressed, but we live pretty plain lives. She wants to start painting and id like to start going on hikes together.
>Relationship dynamics?
As said before its a lot of mother and son behavior. She dotes on me constantly and i suck up to her and give her as much affection as i can. Id say shes overall more dominant than i am, but when shes hurting i step up for her. Were both pretty scattered mentally, so a lot of crying and comforting throughout the week.
We make our situation work. All we can do it get by best we can.
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>>83946678
Not a date, more like, she desperately wants clients. But, if I were the only one there I'm sure she would've sat together with me watching the game. Saturday's breakfast was a Valentine's special that she was promoting too.
She's considered the black sheep of the family, I should've included that in the qrd. There's more info on her on the last thread, but I'll have to compile it myself, don't want people to read through all of that thread.
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>>83946549
>>83946592
im of this mindset. if he was going to kill himself he would have posted a wall of text about it first.
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>>83945936
women masturbate too genius
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>>83933993
lol this fucking retard listened to feds and gooners in this thread and went and fucked up his familial relations because he thought 4chan and porn were real life. i tried to warn you faggots. don't try to fuck your family members, dumb fucks.
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>>83946447
>hapa-chan goes there and posts incognito
>gets ignored over an obvious hornybaiting larp
It seems to be a running theme with her
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>>83933993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrIVziHbNPE&list=RDwrIVziHbNPE&start_radio=1
i prefer the original desu
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>>83946962
>>hapa-chan goes there and posts incognito
I hope she acts as a moderator to the horny wannabe dadfuckers
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Just had a two hour conversation with Gemini about repressed memories of mother sexually abusing me
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>>83946736
Did your momGF and her son ever do anything or was it purely a fantasy for her?
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>>83947517
No her son passed away in a car accident when he was quite young, ex-husband at the wheel. Never had any sort of sexual feelings for her kid at the time, but over the years they came about as a sort of trauma response. Husband leaving her likely didnt help. Were both puzzles with half the pieces missing.
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Cousin story #1, I'm going to call her S from now on.
>feb 2025, sunday, everything's calm at work, boss' day off
>maintenance guy shows me one of his birthday presents
>edible gummies
>take and eat a piece
>never once tried anything like that so why not
>tells me it'll take a while to take effect
>2 hours later
>it finally hits
>holy shit what's happening
>my body moves but there's a delay on my sense of touch like 1/3 of a second
>head starts pulsating rapidly
>it comes and goes live waves
>realize my short term memory is shit now
>feels like a long time has passed
>not even a minute has gone by
>start to panic
>maintenance guy tells me to chill, listen to music and act natural, says he's used to this
>wtf that's why you never do shit on sundays
>listen to music
>trip balls
>vip arrives
>maintenance guy flees from vip
>remember to act natural
>look at clock hoping everything will be over soon
>not even 3 minutes have gone by
>4 hours left on my shift
>panic
>call S, she'll know what to do
>no answer, start praying and tripping
>vip comes back
>S calls back
>vip, sorry I have to answer
>S i need you, pls come
>What's wrong? Are you ok?
>Pls come right now
>Ok, I'm coming
>lock myself in the bathroom waiting for S to arrive
>forget why I'm in the bathroom and exit
>vip's still waiting
>can't remember what happened here
>S arrives and asks me what's wrong
>S, i'm feeling sick and tripping balls
>S buys me food and drinks while watching over me
>S tells me to call boss
>S guides me on what to say, make it sound like a heart issue
>boss let's me go
>S explains me what is greened out
>S confesses she used to watch over her bf making sure he didn't od
>feel comfy, it's going to be alright
>arrive at aunt's home
>S helps me get in bed and undress a bit
>sleep without a care in the world
Some side effects took months to go away and I feel some have stuck even a year later, like memory and speech. She didn't get mad at me for this, but was stern on me not doing it again.
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Anybody in the thread have a pistol packin mama?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G2T0ad1-h4
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>>83947980
>bails you out from your trip
Sounds to me like long term relationship material desu. Why would it be bad to be "son zoned " by her?
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>>83946736
Both of you having a traumatic past must suck, but this woman sounds like a blast to be around. Total titcow with an easy going personality and unending sexual appetite. I imagine seeing her huge cleavage and being able to unload in her whenever is always fun. Though the amount of sex you describe sounds frankly draining.

What kind of supplements do you take? Describe her body more. Is there a particular model or famous person you know of that is a look alike to her? What is her bra size? Does she get loud when you fuck her?
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>>83948589
Dont know if id call it a blast, but its a life we can both live. Titcow is a funny way of putting it.
Yeah, it can be draining, but fuck me if i dont act on it any chance i get. Nothing in this world matters when im slamming my hips against hers. Just me and her. Definitely ready for bed pretty early most days, though.
>What kind of supplements do you take?
Lot of trial and error and the current cycle is Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Vitamin D, D-AA, Zinc, Folic Acid, Ginseng, Selenium, L-Carnitine, Ashwagandha, Fenugreek, Tribulus Terrestris, Maca Root. Mix of pills and powders. After breakfast i mix all the powders in a big glass of water and wash the pills down with it. Like to go for a run or at least do some exercise afterwards to get the blood pumping. Havent died yet and im fucking like a 20 year old so it seems to be working.
>Describe her body more. Is there a particular model or famous person you know of that is a look alike to her?
The pic i attached to this post is pretty bang on for her figure, though the girl in the pic is obviously a lot younger.
>What is her bra size?
No clue, theyre huge, thats all i know. She gets all her bras from a specialty boutique because stores dont sell them her size.
>Does she get loud when you fuck her?
Depends on the mood, but yeah she can get pretty loud. Spry as hell for her age. She takes good care of herself.
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>>83948915
Do you see a future with her anon? Or do you not care about that anymore...I really feel for you both.
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>>83947132
>Just had a two hour conversation with Gemini about repressed memories of mother sexually abusing me
Gemini is a fucking yesman, and a preacher to boot.
I am surprised you have even managed to have a "conversation" about such a topic.

>>83948915
I am going to call you... ReplacementSon
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>>83944046
What do you think would happen if you ordered her to bear your children and she never got any abortions?
What race are you and what was the age gap?
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>>83946736
>dont think we've fucked less than 3x a day since week 2, double that isnt out of the norm
Come on, bro....
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>>83949418
>mini is a fucking yesman, and a preacher to boot.
That's an interesting opinion
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>>83949418
>I am going to call you... ReplacementSon
Why are u so fucking weird?
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>>83947980
Cousin story #2
>12/31/22
>staying the night with S this year
>order 3 pizzas
>get pizzas and go to S's place
>S says we'll be up all night
>sex maybe?
>no, S puts on a wild life doc
>lay down on her bed at a distance from S
>S complains and cuddles next to me
>her leg over mine, head resting on my chest while hugging me
>covers us with a blanket and turns the A/C on
>S asks if I'm comfy
>say yes while trying not to pop a boner
>S starts talking about how much she loves nature and watches docs whenever possible
>feed her pizza
>think about taking my shot tonight I'm crossing the line
>S phone rings
>nephew is being dropped off by his dad to her
>we go out to receive him
>nephew's upset about father's family
>change doc to lilo & stitch
>S is now between nephew and me but cuddles with him
>want to play with S's ass but control myself
>fall asleep
>wake up in the dark, same room
>S next to me and no nephew
>I'm now hugging her and my head's on her shoulder
>whisper to S, she responds
>start talking about last year
>S open up and says she had affair with her boss last year, 10 years older than S
>boss grew to love her, but he already had plans to marry his gf
>S distanced herself from him
>boss gf found out
>blackmail letters started to appear on S's car
>S quits job and feels heartbroken
>S tells me an anecdote when she was almost abducted at 18
>talks about her falling out with her mother
>falling out with grandma
>how she met her son's father
>her role in the family, wants to be a protector for her family
>how happy she was on getting breasts implants
>I start thinking I'm a piece of shit for expecting sex hours ago
>S finishes off telling me how much she trusts me and wants me to rely on her
>I trust you, S. If I ever need someone I'm calling you first
>If you ever need to dispose of someone tell me too
>wtf
>check phone
>It's 10 am
>we get up and go for breakfast
Nephew was in his room, so it's a good thing I didn't try to cross the line that morning.
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>>83948559
I have to admit she's really a ride or die kind of girl, but she's very unpredictable sometimes, most of the day she's in a hurry or behind schedule, and I'm not like that.
About being son zoned, it's not like a sugar mom kind of deal, that I know of.
After her break up with her boss she started to have a saviour complex and would always try to do the best for her bfs that she barely knew, but as soon as the got better she'd start treating them like her child, telling them how to dress, what to do during the day, etc., like a helicopter parent. Meanwhile she'll start hooking up with somebody else, from her work most of the times. For a brief time she must've been dating 3 guys at the same time
Some guys went along with it, 2 of them started taking advantage of her, asking for loans, new phones, living together. And in both cases she was in denial about being manipulated, despite all evidence showing that was the case.
One guy noticed she started to know about being manipulated and simply vanished. The other guy beat her up and sent her to the hospital, she didn't press charges because she still liked him and forgave him, and I've head he has started stalking her so she had to change jobs.
>>83950997
Forgot to add the name.
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>>83951094
fuck off back to /b/ with your larp spam, retard
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fucking /b/tard invasion lately, man wtf
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>>83950590
:(
>>83950596
:C I didnt think i was.

>>83950997
Vertical greentexts of this length are kinda hard to read, honestly.
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Can we make it a rule that only giuys interested in older woman can post here? No rapey imouto shit.
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>>83951209
I thought this one came from /a/?
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Carrying over questions from last thread

Rank the following:
Tits, Ass, Thighs, Tummy

Bush or no bush?

Glasses or no glasses?

Sassy or sweet?

Rough or gentle?

Mommys are made for: _______________
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>>83951327
Sorry, I wanted to try something different. It goes to show that I don't write like that often.
>>83951197
I did say that I'll leave after this thread because there's nothing much for me to share with you.
Only answer some questions if anyone were to have them.
>>83951565
The last time I frequented /b/ was around 2015 when mods started to ban loli threads on /a/. Then terms like creature, youji, cup, js, jc and jy started to become more frequent as to evade mod's attention. I preferred sfw loli threads so I didn't stick around for long.
>>83951770
Ass>Thighs>Tummy>Tits
Bush
Either way is fine
Sassy
Gentle
Unconditional love
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>>83949055
>Do you see a future with her anon? Or do you not care about that anymore
Only future i see at the moment is with her. Hard to say how our dynamic will change with the years. Old woman across the street is nearly 90 and she still mows her own lawn and walks to the grocery store, so thats a hopeful sight.
Her having twenty years on me puts a pit in my stomach, knowing that even in a best case situation id have to go through that loss again. If she can make it to 95 i figure id have lived long enough and could just follow behind her at that point. Men dont live as long anyways.
>>83950488
I dont think you understand how easy it is to fuck constantly when you are both depressed and dont have jobs to worry about. Just think about how many millions of guys sit at home jerking off 5+ times a day for years on end on a diet of maccas and hot pockets. Its not bed breaking sex every time, throughout the day its a series of quickies, 15-20 minutes. Evening is when the more "exciting" stuff happens.
>What do you think would happen if you ordered her to bear your children and she never got any abortions?
"Ordered her" she was my mother not a servant, she'd probably have smacked me across the face. We werent in a position to raise a kid anyways. Fuck kind of world do you live in?
>What race are you and what was the age gap?
White all around. 20~ years in both cases.
>Rank the following:
Tits, Ass, Tummy, Thighs
>Bush or no bush?
Mom never shaved, MomGF grew out her bush for me
>Glasses or no glasses?
Glasses
>Sassy or sweet?
Sweet
>Rough or gentle?
Both
Mommys are made for: life
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Page 8 so bumping before I get up from my nap here
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>>83951992
I can't comprehend the idea of a sibling being your offspring with your mom, it seems like such a mindfuck.
I don't know if it's better or worse that she put herself through the trauma of all those abortions instead of getting your cooperation.
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>>83944046
>Found out she'd gotten a ton of abortions
this is next level fucked up. This probably broke the camel's back. Don't wanna come off rude but that must've been the main reason she did what she did.
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>>83951992
What was her reaction when you told her about the momcest? Weirded, curious, intrigued, excited?
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>>83952937
Abortions come back to haunt even the most careless atheist women let alone a religious woman like her
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>>83933814
>>83933824
>>83933828
what level of autism is this
>that wasn't an original comment
lol
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>>83936286
poetbro is charging up his spam cannon
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>>83937581
What does she look like? Any pictures?
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>>83939007
>Dont really have any interest in actually fucking her
Too late
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>>83939804
I wonder if she's letting you see her in those on purpose
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>>83886830

I am the real gothmom anon. Unfortunately (for obvious reasons) mom and I did not have a valentines. So my sis decided she would have a Galentines with mom. Mom tried to reject but sis showed up anyway and mom was busy on Sunday. She wanted to give me a special treat though so I left work early and went to hers Monday. She wore a backless red lace leotard thing with easy access. Absolute diamonds. It was a special occasion so naturally I used the easy access and did anal twice.
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>>83953203
With the new guy that showed up having a similar situation to you, I have a question. Do you still hold some lingering resentment towards your mom for not allowing your brothersons or sisterdaughters to be born?
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>>83953262
dang anon, don't remind him...
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>>83953069
The question is why she didn't use some other non hormonal form of birrth control?
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>>83953262
Resentments. No. Does it still hurt? Absolutely. But I completely see why. I mean she lost her marriage because of fertility issues has always wanted more kids. Then she is suddenly pregnant and I was still a kid at the time. On top of that she loses one baby and aborts the other. I cannot imagine what she went through mentally and as much as I would have liked to I was not mature enough or able to provide at the time.

If something happens now then we are in a much better position. Still have the hurdle of trying to explain who the father would be to family though.
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>>83953287
If there is anything we could deduce from his story, it's that his mom was the dullest knife in the shed with basically no foresight beyond present moment. But even that can barely explain why she kept repeating the same easily avoidable mistake like a complete brainlet.
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>>83953287
It's amazing the amount of thoughts that may never occur to a person. If she was very religious, her mind may simply have never wondered about that sort of thing, and seems she was only spurred to action with immediate need. Given her situation, she probably wasnt doing much higher order thinking out of convenience. It seems like she had several undiagnosed issues, as well. Not the most sound mind. Feel bad for anon. If thats just how she always was, he could never really have known something was wrong with her.
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>>83953433
>If she was very religious, her mind may simply have never wondered about that sort of thing
that's contradictory
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Ass masseur cousin sideplot update

She found a new bf. I liked her close friends story where she pulled some prank on him (I thought he was her friend) and she slid in my dms with 3 texts asking me if I think do we look alike. I couldn't think of anything else and replied with a cringe "r/suddenlyincest" and she just replied AHHAHAHAHAHA in all caps.

I realized she looks like a slightly modified sidney sweeney. Minus the funny distance between the eyes and smaller mouth. Also A cups instead of the rack but cuz has a better bubble but and toned legs.
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>>83953448
Not really. When actively choosing to engage in sinful behaviour, its easier to block deeper thoughts about it. Sometimes you arent even aware of it.
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>>83953593
You just retroactively abrogated your words. You said BECAUSE she is religious, she might not think about it which is complete nonsense. When you are religious, by definition you ponder and ruminate on your actions unlike unbelievers.
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>>83953592
how are the things with the gf? still balls deep in her ass?
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>>83953618
>he thinks normies strenuously think about their religious affiliation
Most people keep the religious affiliation their parents had, they don't endlessly ponder various spiritual possibilities
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>>83944037
Can you tell us more about the sex itself? How was she, what position did she like etc. Anything kinky like anal and such? What sounds did she make? Oral?
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>>83953645
he specifically said she is "very" religious. Unless she is totally braindead, she was thinking back on her actions regularly
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>>83953632
Haven't been in a long time. Hopefully next week.
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>>83953203
>and did anal twice
Of course you did. Lmao
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>>83953618
Nigga idk I'm speculating. I'm not religious nor do I know this woman beyond like 4 sentences of context. Plenty of braindead morons with no self awareness are heavily religious. Plus I said if, not because, you imbecile. Fuck are you arguing with me for, I'm not your sunday school teacher.
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>>83953671
Special occasion and natural birth control. Plus she likes it so it is win win.
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>>83953704
what would she think of ass to mouth?
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>>83951770
>Ass > Tummy > Thighs > Tits
>No preference desu
>Glasses but my mom hates wearing her glasses
>Sweet
>Gentle
>rimming and impregnating
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>>83953704
Hey goth anon, any drama since last updates?
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>>83953753
can someone turn on the AC or open windows in these retarded illustrations?
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>>83953760
They don't own an air conditioner
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>>83953203
>So my sis decided she would have a Galentines with mom
Be careful, your sis wants a piece of the action
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>>83953874
did he ever talk about his sis? Any potential or interest there? What would mom think?
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>>83951992
>what kind of world do you live in
Okay so railing her was fine but raising children was too much?
Let me rephrase the question tho
If she was pregnant with your baby and wanted to keep it and raise the child with you as the father, would you be a good father or would you abandon your mother?
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>>83954031
>so beating up a person is fine but shooting them in the head is too much? what the hell man
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>>83954073
It would be foolish to build a boat only to never see it set sail
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>>83954171
except building a boat is a clean net positive, fucking your mom isn't
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>>83954189
building a boat uses up time and material resources that could potentially be redirected to other purposes
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I want to motorboat my mom's big tits
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>>83953033
>Don't wanna come off rude but that must've been the main reason she did what she did.
She didnt say that outright but yeah, youre probably right. I dont know why she didnt tell me or make a bigger deal about it, or explore other options as some others have wondered. Cant exactly ask her now. Im haunted by it.
Maybe I should have been more aware, but i never had reason to be prior. Its a lot easier to look back now in hindsight and realize just how many things should have been done differently aside from the obvious, but i cant stress enough how "fine" things seemed in the moment all those years. She was a constant and never really changed one day to the next. I never felt like there was anything i had to worry about other than helping manage her ups and down, but those were expected. It never seemed like anything was the matter. She was too much of a pushover and i was just too stupid or ignorant to make better choices myself because everything seemed "fine". Not trying to make myself seem like a victim here. I blame myself for her death every day.
>>83953054
>What was her reaction when you told her about the momcest? Weirded, curious, intrigued, excited?
We met on a web forum. In the depths of my depression i posted a big rant about everything to get it off my chest. Wanted some sympathy and some sort of connection, i guess. She messaged me offering condolences and told me about the struggles she had been contending with for years and years. Started talking regularly, slipped into pseudo mother son roles pretty quick. Talked daily for almost a year before she suggested i come live with her. I didnt have anything better to do. Sold the house and moved across the country. Been with her since.
>>83954031
>If she was pregnant with your baby and wanted to keep it, would you be a good father?
Well, in that case, i like to think i could have stepped up. I loved her. I loved her so damn much. Maybe we would have been fucked up parents, but id have tried.
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>>83953719
She has done it a couple of times when drunk but is mortified when she is sober again. I always make her feel better pointing out how hot and sexy she. I tease her too saying if she finds it gross what am I supposed to think when I eat ass. Got her to blush at that one and call me filthy.

>>83953756
No drama except not being able to spend valentines together. We had a mini valentines on the Monday though.

We had a minor incident with the pharmacy though. Mom is on BC now and they are well known at our local pharmacy. The clerk asked my aunt if she wants to take my moms prescription. My aunt being nosy checked and then asked why mom is on BC. Mom was pissed with her and they did not speak for a couple of weeks. She passed it off as getting older and having period issues so she is taking them to correct it.

>>83953874
I have never really seen any signs from sis. She is very cute like a young version of my mom. My mom would never agree. She already had a hard time with us. The thought of of her two kids is probably too much. My aunt has been flirty when drunk but that is more in a playful way like teasing family members.
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>>83943245
>She got our house from our grandparents when they passed
Did your mother have a good relationship/upbringing with your grandparents?
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>>83954276
What percentage do you think your mom sees you as her son vs her BF?
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>>83954295
Strained, i think. I dont remember much about them. Papa passed just after i turned 7 and gran just a few months later. They were nice to me, few fond memories, thats about it. I remember they used to come to the apartment we lived in to visit once in a while. Helped mom tidy up a bit, have dinner with us. I remember always feeling awkward when they were around because they always seemed awkward. A lot of silence. I dont think they understood what was wrong with her and found it hard to interact with her. Boomers, i guess. Mom wasnt exactly a socialite or chatty cathy, so they usually did most of the talking. She spoke kindly about them from time to time after their passing. Had a normal enough upbringing from what little she said. Never dwelled much on the past. She got bullied some, found that out when she was trying to comfort me when i was being bullied in middle school.
Dont know much else.
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>>83954384
Weirdly I would say 50/50. She still treats me exactly the same. Still treats me like I am her baby boy in the same way she treats my sister as her little girl. But once we are alone/horny it those relationship elements. She acts sexy, flirts, teases and obvious we fuck. It is hard to describe but yeh 50/50
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>>83954437
Did you not see or do not want to answer this >>83953646
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>>83954493
Missed, will answer later.
Asking about mom or momgf?
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>>83954276
Family noticing the lack of girlfriends?
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>>83954547
mom


fdiosjfoejwioengniownnogngiownionwipgnw
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>>83953760
No, sweaty, musky mom pussy and ass is required
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>>83954680
Helping mommy work up a sweat
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>>83954680
>tfw I massaged mom's ass after she walked home from work on a scorching summer heat
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>>83954590
Thankfully not. I have always been pretty private when it comes to relationships and they know I have had girlfriends before so thankfully they do not think I am gay (at least I hope so.) At least my mom knows I am definitely not gay.
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>>83953646
Pretty frequent sex, every other day maybe. She felt incredible. It was great sex, always.
We never did anything crazy. Usually pretty vanilla. Missionary was the most common, then doggystyle. When she came on to me she would ride me cowgirl or reverse cowgirl. Never got too rough, on occassion we could get pretty intense, but mostly it was a lot of "lovemaking". A little more vocal during sex, a lot of panting and little "i love you/mama loves you"s when she came. Probably heard most "i love you"s from her during sex, now that i think about it. Never felt the same as when she would say it in normal day to day life, though.
Never did anal, not much interest on either end. Mightve asked once and got turned down, cant remember. She gave me blowjobs now and again, mostly on special occassions or if i asked nice enough. I didnt do oral on her until i was in my early twenties because she never asked, but i eventually decided to try it on a whim and she loved it. She would squeel and moan like you wouldnt believe and i loved hearing it, so i did it pretty often from then on.
We were so compatible. I felt we were made for eachother.
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>>83954900
How did she look naked?
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>>83954547
Not the same anon but I hope it works out for you and momgf
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Btw most of the momcest stuff is larp right?
It would suck if you got spawn camped by your mom for real
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>>83955134
suck in what way?
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>>83955134
If you think it's real, it'll be real.
If you think it's false, it won't be.
It's that easy.
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>>83933808
Hey all, thought id check back in since its been a while. I did in fact spend valentines day with my mom. We actually planned a whole date night and stayed at a hotel downtown afterwards just for fun. It was excellent, and i think she loved it too.

She planned a whole hours-long edging session with me in the hotel room that kept us both up until around midnight. Lots of cum everywhere (hers and mine). We both had multiple O's.

Besides that though, there are other new things going on in our household. I did in fact get out of my lease around halloween and moved in with her fully. We still fuck a few times a week (no vaginal intercourse, obviously, but we have started doing more adventurous stuff).

There was like a 2-3 week period where she was feeling guilty again and asked us to stop, but it didn't last very long. She's also doing more deepthroating and face fucking stuff for me now, which has been fucking amazing. The only caveat is that her gag reflex can't hold out for very long, so it's usually rough but short. Happy to chat and fill in any details if people have questions.
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>>83955195
>no vaginal intercourse
BOO! *hiss*
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>>83955195
>no vaginal intercourse,
You need to get her real horny! Mommy's pussy needs action too!
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>>83955195
>but we have started doing more adventurous stuff).
Like what?
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>>83955195
Have you had any other GFs?
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>>83955393
Why won't she go all way? have you talked about it?
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>>83953592
>She found a new bf
GO ON A DOUBLE DATE!
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>>83954703
What'd it smell like?
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Did someone get nuked? What happened?
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Where the boobs guy posts?!
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>>83955152
>suck in what way?
Because getting raped by your mom before you can even drive already sets you up for failure
Also most of the time the mother is young and single so she doesn't have much experience in life and there is no father to set you straight
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>>83956122
>>83956062
Since his first post is still up, it looks like he deleted them himself.
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>>83955134
>It would suck if you got spawn camped by your mom for real
>spawn camped by mommy
>mfw this particular sequence of gooner brainrot words for some reason

As long as the mom is attractive it's okay sorry rule of hot
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>>83954944
Gorgeous. Just perfect. I close my eyes and I can still see her.
She was a tiny thing, 4'10 or so. Round face and adorable pouty lips. Long brown hair that was always sticking out everywhere, big round librarian glasses, these stunning amber eyes. Spattering of near black freckles across her face and under her eyes.
She wasnt fat, but carried some extra meat on her. Hard not to at that height. Nice and soft to hold, could dig my fingers into her and hold her without poking bone. Even at her oldest her skin was soft and almost no wrinkles.
Big heavy tits and a real fat ass. She always wore frumpy clothes to hide it, but i could stare at her naked all day and not get bored. She didnt like how she looked and ill never understand why. She was so beautiful. I got her some lingerie in the last few years that she would begrudgingly wear for me and id last all of 4 seconds by the time she got my belt down just from looking at her.
I know everyone here talks about their mom or sister or whoever as the sexiest woman alive, but you must believe me, they are all wrong, im the only one whos right.
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>>83956819
Do you think you could have saved her if you knew she intended her own demise?
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>>83956843
I dont know. Maybe not if it all came out right at the end, but if i had been more proactive and was able to make better choices from earlier on, yes, maybe. I think so. If she just talked to me about things it could have been different. If i wasnt so dense. So clueless.
Maybe it was always doomed. She had problems that went unaddressed her whole life. Like i said before, probably bipolar and maybe aspergers. Anxiety, depression. I didnt really get it because she was always like that. I thought if i just loved her enough maybe she would smile and talk more. Id take her out and show up at her job with flowers for her and tell her how much i loved her and always made sure to satisfy her. I didnt understand how much trouble there was in her mind. I just never thought about it. Its all i think about now. What i could have done different.
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>>83942332
id give my life to fuck a fat puss like that.
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>>83933993
Day 3 no poet. Flew too close to the sun i figure.
Hoping im wrong.
Be a sad end.
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>>83933807
my mom thought she was being funny singing george michael to me
>lets talk about you and me
>lets talk about sex baby
she also says im her valentine
girls like 60 years old and NOT pretty
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>>83957074
>60 years old and NOT pretty
How is her personality though?
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>>83956819
>>83957074
The duality of sons
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>>83933993
A poem for poetbros return:
Our poet is gone
It makes me sad
If he would return
I would be glad
: )
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>>83933993
>>83957281
hung by the neck
the poet is dead
he was very annoying
spamming the threads
>:)
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>>83957347
I'm going to start adding your death to my daily manifestations.
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>>83957374
wait no no i didnt mean it i just thought it would be funny
release me ;_; please dont do that im sorry
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>>83957397
>wait no no i didnt mean it i just thought it wouId be funny
>release me ;_; please dont do that im sorry
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>>83957374
>>83957411
Ah come on now, I don't think Poetbreh wouldn't approve of curses being handed out in his name desu, he was a man of God
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>>83957440
Well shit I fucked that up and somehow said the complete opposite of what I intended. Meant to say "I don't think Poetbreh would've approved of curses being handed out in his name".
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>Sonanon, wanna watch a movie?
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>>83951770
Ass, Thighs, Tits, Tummy
No bush
Glasses
Sweet
Rough
My mom is made for on-demand mother-son footjobs!
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>>83951770
>Rank the following:
>Tits, Ass, Thighs, Tummy
Ass > Tummy > Tits > Thighs
>Bush or no bush?
Natural bush, shaved when requested.
>Glasses or no glasses?
No glasses, by I think my mom looks really cute with glasses too.
>Sassy or sweet?
Sweet, bonus points if cold towards other people.
>Rough or gentle?
Hard to imagine not being gentle with my mom most of the time, though I'd love to be rough with her in bed as well.
>Mommys are made for:
Hugs, kisses, groping, and love making.
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>>83951957
>>83951992
>>83953753
>>83960651
it warms my cold motherless heart to see that the census about bush v no bush skews heavily towards bush lovers in both this thread and last. no mommy is complete without a thick patch of cunt grass to empty your balls onto. hairy mommy pussy!
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>>83952821
Brosis all this talk about bush has me curious how you keep yourself/how your brother likes you?
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I miss my teenage years of coming home from high school and watching food network with my mom while laying on her bosom
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>>83960871
hot and smelly sex with mommy
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>>83960871
Personally I'm more in favor of trimmed on the sides. Not gonna lie but I'm an pussy eater
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Where are Escobar and Uncle anon? What did they do with their mothers to be for Valentines day?
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hej everyone. Hope everyone is having a nice week so far.
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>>83962587
It's been up and down, what have you and your brother gotten up to?
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>>83962587
Hey Nomi. Glad to see you!
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>>83962587
Heya nomi, how did you survive the week without brother?
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>>83961408
>treasure trail
Absolute perfection.
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>>83962587
Sup, dude? How's the penis&samefagging?
>>83937759 >>83945936
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>>83933814
>>83933824
If anyone is confused in regards to the post above please refer to the second image of these two
Cuckspammer likes to impersonate namefags and make up shit to screenshot and use as 'evidence' to try and bully them out of the threads because everyone thinks he is gay
Plenty of proof to show he is deranged
Pay him no mind
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>>83963016
So he was nomi all along? What a twist
I knew the thing of her brother licking her foot was too much
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>>83955721
Asshole sweat goodness. It was like I was smashing her in doggy after a solid hike and the smell wafts up with each movement.
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Sorry i went to take a shower
>>83962598
Well nothing special, busy with some school stuff and also helping mom take apart her wardrobe, because she bought a new one from tradera. Him, i don't really know. He came back from the workshop thing, we had a nice basically valentines thing, but again we don't really celebrate this thing much, like in general not just us 2, i made him some munkar, it was nice, but just regular homey stuff. But i don't know, he has been super moody today and yesterday, he says it's nothing and that he just feels washed out by life and it will pass, but i feel like something is worrying him, and he doesn't want to tell me. I hope i'm wrong.
>>83962693
Thank you, i didn't really have anything to say or talk about, and i was a bit anxious after i saw all the arguing last week, so i'm glad to hear that.
>>83962696
It was bleh. I already hated when he was gone before all the time, but now it feels like it's dialed up to 50. Especially my sleep, my sleep has been so awful while he was gone, i completely blew up my sleep schedule every day, and spent those days feeling tired. I told him about it and for some reason he found it really funny and laughed about it a lot. First day that he was back i slept with him in his bed, and it was super nice, but still felt a bit tired through the day.
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>>83933993
Im keep coming back to this song several times daily since you post it, poetbro
Im hoping your okay
Please dont be dead
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>>83963173
Really, dude? A week in hiding and that's the best you could come up with?
It's 1am in sweden
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>>83946962
>>gets ignored over an obvious hornybaiting larp
The GGP poster?
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>>83963173
>but i feel like something is worrying him, and he doesn't want to tell me.
make sure to give him many hugs and kisses and reassure him that he can talk to you about anything. guys can be very reluctant to share their troubles, especially with the people they love.
>>83933993
at this point if it comes out that nothing was wrong after all and you just didnt feel like posting i may need to kill you so all this mourning doesnt go to waste
>>83960985
seconding this
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>>83963173
How mentally ill are you? You were outed as a larper yet here we are.
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>>83963442
Gay Gay Penis?
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>>83963587
Good Girl Points, they claimed they were a NEET who accumulated too many points by doing chores that they were somehow leveraged to get sex from dad.
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>>83949418
>I am going to call you... ReplacementSon
The better name is the obvious one, MomGF anon
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Roll call for everyone here
Did you fuck your mom?
Did you impregnate her?
Is she single (not including incest with you)
Did she rape you?
What is the age gap and the circumstances of your birth
Father's status?
Financial status?
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I guess ill be MomGFanon now
>>83964226
>Did you fuck your mom?
Many a time
>Did you impregnate her?
Several times, unbeknownst to me
>Is she single (not including incest with you)
Was
>Did she rape you?
No
>What is the age gap
21 years
>the circumstances of your birth
Result of a short-lived fling
>Father's status?
MIA/dont care.
>Financial status?
I guess im technically a sugar baby? i dont work and while i do have a fair bit of money invested from when i sold my house, MomGF has a bank account full of inheritance money and thats what gets us by. enough to be very comfortable and go on trips now and again.
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Threadly reminder that mommys bush is meant to be sticky with soncum
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>>83941246
Are these written by someone in these threads? Whos Teresia?
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>>83965028
Teresia is Poetbro's nickname for his sister
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/83763005/#83785580
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/search/username/poetbro/order/asc/
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Bumping because this thread has me stockholmed
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>>83933993
>100+ hours since this was posted
>Still no further divulgence
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The deleted posts are still in the archive! @winemom anon
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>>83967157
Hes just trolling right guys?
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>>83964467
Great now i have a massive boner at work
Fuckin impressive load tho
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To any mothers in this thread such as Autismom Do you see it in any way as training your son to be able to get a girlfriend and wife so he moves out or are you pursuing it solely for the sex?
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Without poetbro and nomi shitting things up during all the weird hours of the day these threads really do become ghost towns outside of the general "after work" time slot
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>>83965822
Jannies wtf is your probIem with Winemom anon?
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>>83968809
pretty sure he's the one deleting his posts because it's a schizo low effort larp
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>>83968809
Why doesn't winemom anon simply ghost post in desuarchive?
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>>83968858
I don't think he is. You can't delete your own posts after 30 minutes have passed and his post got deleted an hour after
>>83968885
He should be doing that, idk why he hasn't adapted yet
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some goth mom anon posts got deleted too, so maybe some janny is out of control? @mods
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>>83968976
That seems weird that he's only picking and choosing certain people to ban
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>>83953592
>I realized she looks like a slightly modified sidney sweeney. Minus the funny distance between the eyes and smaller mouth. Also A cups instead of the rack but cuz has a better bubble but and toned legs.
>Minus the funny distance between the eyes, smaller mouth, and big tits
So what a blond white woman usually looks like?
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>>83968997
unless that anon said something the mods consider no no words and got their post's wiped
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>>83968997
There is a janny that browses this general all the time. I've seen him post and freak out about shit. You can post anything on the board but if you post a single cuckson/BBC image he goes on a rampage. Pretty sure half the posts in this general are his, LARP'ing as various different anon to get his incest fantasies going.
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tell us about your mom, janny. is she single?
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>>83943245
Imagine the sex and how you would organically have it with her.
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>>83969714
>LARP'ing as various different anon to get his incest fantasies going.
Which pairings does he fetishise or is it just mommys?
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>>83960985
He likes things kept neat (but not shaved or anything) and I oblige (until the pregnancy bump starts making it tougher)
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>@Poetbro
/Good Evening/

>>83933993

I apologize for the concern my sudden absence seems to have caused. I didn't realize how that post would look without the intended follow up. Rest assured, for better or worse, I'm not dead. I had a whole slew of posts about all the shit that happened Valentine's Day all typed up by Sunday evening, and I had intended to post it all Monday morning before work, but I've been sent for such a loop that when I woke up I just felt I needed to step back and take a break from this place and be alone with myself for a while.

If it isn't obvious enough, yes, something happened Valentine's day. I'll just get it out of the way and tell you that I haven't been cucked or excommunicated. Part of me wishes it was that simple. Maybe it is simple and I'm just overthinking. I've been all sorts of fucked up since Saturday.

I suppose I'll get into it, then. Again, I'm sorry if I had anyone worried, and I appreciate the well wishes.

>>83957374
Please don't manifest this guy's death. Have enough on my conscience.

Afraid I've got one hell of a wall of text to post, so strap in because it's a doozy and it reads like hell. Or don't. Feel free to ignore. I'm just screaming into the void here.
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>>83970597

I had an incredible Valentine's day with Poetsis. A really, really great day. I picked her up about 3:00 and she just looked stunning. I just threw on a collared shirt and some slacks, but she really dolled herself up in this beautiful black dress, hair styled, nice makeup--everything. The most gorgeous woman I've ever seen, always, no contest. I felt a bit like a shmuck after seeing her, but she didn't seem to care. I didn't know how she felt at the time, but I sure as hell felt like I was taking her on an honest to God lover's date. She even let me get all sappy and hold her hand and open the truck door for her. Had a rose waiting for her on the console, and she gave me a kiss on the cheek. She laughed at how red I got.

We went to Mini Putt first. Beforehand I kind of felt maybe it was going to be lame after all, but we had a blast. I'm alright enough, but she's truly awful at it, at least ten hits a hole, usually twice that. Every time she hit the ball she would be fully expecting it to go in but completely miss every time, even if she was a foot from the hole. I couldn't stop laughing. She was frustrated at first and kept whacking me with her stick for laughing at her, but by the fourth hole we were just cracking up constantly and I wound up trying to do trick shots to fill the time until she got her ball in.

All the excitement tired us out, so we got Boba tea first before going to dinner. Just walked around the park downtown to cool down a bit. I got to be suave and give her my jacket then had to pretend I wasn't freezing my ass off. Talked about this and that, nothing really outside the norm. She's been thinking about what she wants to do when she eventually goes back to school, has several promising choices. I malded about my truck issues a bit. Usual stuff.

(1/16)
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>>83970613

We got to dinner just after 6:00. I'd stopped by earlier in the day to drop off the presents I got her so that the staff could bring them out later on, so I was fairly anxious and imagining scenarios where they were stolen or they'd forget. Nevertheless, once we were sat down and started chatting while looking over the menus, I started easing up. I made a stupid joke at one point about how mid the caesar salad was, something about it tasting like the idea of caesar salad, and she thought it was hilarious. I kept adding and adding to the joke and she was red with laughter by the end of it. Such a beautiful sound.

Main course, chicken parmesan, was great. During a quiet moment as we ate, she expressed how grateful she was for taking her to do all this and how happy it was making her. That said, at one point near the end of the meal she made a comment that she felt bad that I felt I had to take my sister out for Valentine's day because no one else would. She said it with a half laugh, but I think she really did feel I was taking pity on her or something. Obviously not true, so I--perhaps slightly too enthusiastically--reassured her that there's no one else I'd rather be with, how grateful I am to spend the day with such a beautiful girl, how much I've enjoyed myself, how she's worth every penny, etc... Took her hand and gave it a squeeze, then went a bit further and kissed the back of her hand. First time I can remember ever actually seeing her get flustered from something I'd done besides a crude joke. She told me that I was just saying that, but she gave me this beautiful smile after. She didn't pull her hand away, so I held it for a little while, just caressing it with my thumb.

All throughout dinner, our waitress kept referring to us as a couple and to Poetsis as my girlfriend. I was a bit sheepish, but Poetsis just smiled and never once corrected her. That felt really nice.

(2/16)
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>>83970624

Poetsis was surprised when the first gift bag came out with dessert--very surprised, actually. "You didn't have to", "I didn't get you anything", "You don't need to spend money on me"--the usual suspects. Dismissed her words and insisted she open it up despite my rising anxiety that perhaps I really did get her too much and it would be too obvious that something was up.

A flowery shawl, a new pair of these big fuzzy socks I got her several Christmas' ago that had since been worn to tatters, a small box of chocolates, and a candle. She was thrilled and on the verge of tears by the end of it--she loved the shawl, but the socks were the biggest hit. Glad I decided to get them again at the last second. She's said for years they were her favourite gift she ever got, but I still didn't expect such a reaction the second time around. I used to tease her for wearing the ratty pair rather than just getting herself another pair, but perhaps part of it is having gotten them from someone. I can be a little dense when it comes to these things.

She was very touched and gave me another kiss on the cheek, which I didn't mention before, but usually she isn't the one offering kisses with her delicate lips. I must have been red as a tomato because she went off teasing me about it as we ate dessert. She put the shawl on right there in the booth, and it looked so cute on her.

Dessert was... Kind of shit. Dry chocolate cake. Made her laugh again with my reaction to the first bite, though, so I suppose it wasn't so bad. Once we finished, the waitress brought out the bill with the second part of the gift, another late addition I only remembered the day before--a charm bracelet, one she has wanted for almost twelve years now. A gift our mother gave our eldest sister when she turned thirteen, but never gave one to Poetsis, which has been a wound she has carried ever since. With it, a card with a poem I wrote for her--not overtly romantic, but affectionate.

(3/16)
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>>83970634

I felt a little weird about giving the bracelet to her, wondering if it maybe wasn't my place, but I knew she was never going to get it otherwise. I had positioned the card with the poem over the label on the box so she wouldn't see it immediately. She went through the "you shouldn't have" rigamarole again while simultaneously looking giddy as anything, and I just chuckled.

She was very taken aback by the poem--as I've said, she's read everything I've ever written, but I never wrote any poems until recently, so it was a surprise to her. It really touched her. She started crying as she pulled the card out from the ribbon that was holding it over the box, and she started to say something, but then saw the label on the box and started full-on sobbing. It's not a high quality brand or anything, it's actually known for being sort of cheap and shit, but it's the one she's wanted all these years. I figured she might cry but I felt bad for making her have such a reaction in public, as I hadn't meant to embarrass her. We were drawing a lot of eyes, so I quickly went over to her side to comfort her. Wont say something retarded like "then everyone clapped", but the couple next to us said a few words to us after she'd calmed down a little--don't really remember, something something "one lucky girl" etc... and the guy made a comment to me about making him look bad, which got a laugh out of both of us. Again, Poetsis never corrected their assumption of us as a couple, nor did I.

Eventually she dried her eyes and expressed her gratitude with a long hug. Said some more about being so unexpected, didn't feel she deserved it, that I spend way too much money, but I just reassured her that I'm just glad she liked it all, and that's the truth. I wish I had enough to give her more.

Rest of dinner was uneventful. I stayed beside her and helped her polish off the middling chocolate cake as we chatted. She held my hand the whole time.

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>>83970644

I thought she might be tired by the time we left, so I asked her if she wanted to watch a movie or go home, but she got all excited and said she wanted to watch a movie, so we went back to my place. I gave it a lot of thought and had decided on '5 Centimeters Per Second'. It's one that has been on our watchlist for years and years, but I kept hearing people refer to it as "5 Wallpapers" when I was younger and found that funny, and from that just assumed it was overrated, so we never actually watched it. Well, that changed.

Total gut punch. Usually we chat through movies like that, but we barely said a word after the ten minute mark. I thought it was going to be something more in line with 'Your Name', which neither of us really liked, but wow was it not like that at all. I know it's supposed to be a sad but hopeful ending for both characters, but I felt sick to my stomach. Knots.

Then Poetsis starts crying again. Not sobbing, but the tears were coming and she was short of breath. I scooted her up onto my lap and held her close to me, rubbing her back as she cried into the crook of my neck. She cried for a while, and I really felt I'd ruined the entire evening by not vetting the movie properly. Eventually, though, she stopped crying at some point, and just laid against me while I traced circles on her back with my finger. I asked her if she was okay, and she gave me a little nod, but didn't say anything. I didn't either. After a little more silence she piped up again. Her voice was still a little teary, but she told me how much she loved the day we spent together. How none of her boyfriends had ever put that much thought into Valentine's, that I'd made her feel really special. Heart felt very full hearing her speak. Reaffirmed how blessed I felt to spend the day with her and to have made her so happy. She called me silly, then she started crying again.

(5/16)
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>>83970651

Less than before, just a shaky voice and sniffles. She didn't say anything for a while, but eventually she said that sometimes, she wishes that I was her boyfriend instead of her brother.

Bottom of my stomach fell out immediately. Throat tightened up. Heart beating so fast I could hear it and she could no doubt feel it.

She asked if I ever feel like that, and I couldn't answer. Felt like my lips were glued shut and someone had my throat in their hand. I honestly thought for a moment that I was dreaming and this whole day hadn't really happened yet. I can't even tell you what I was thinking because I wasn't, my head completely emptied and I just sat stunned with her in my arms.

She snuggled closer into me and told me that sometimes it seems like I love her more than as a sister, and that she feels like its been like that for a long time. Told me how different her relationship with our elder brother is, and how different my relationship is to our other sisters. Then she looked up at me and asked me if that was true, or if she's crazy for thinking that. It wasn't an accusation, it was just a question. She even gave me an out.

My first instinct was to lie. I don't even know why. My head was screaming to lie, lie, lie, tell her no, no of course not, we're just so close because of our childhood, and that maybe I love her more than most brothers love their sister, maybe a lot more, but no I'd never think of her like that. Everything I've ever wanted is sat on my lap, and my first, second, and third thoughts were all to deny what she was saying.

But I didn't. I couldn't answer her, but I didn't deny it. I don't think she would have believed me if I did, but maybe it would have been easier for both of us. She knew, either way. She knew just by looking at me. Anyone would have known.

She told me she loved me, and I managed to tell her I loved her. Then she kissed me.

(6/16)
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>>83970655

It was one of the worst kisses I've ever experienced, but the single, most perfect moment of my entire life. It wasn't feverish or passionate, we weren't sticking our tongues down eachother's throats or tearing eachother's clothes off. It felt like two magnets of opposite poles being pushed together. I kissed her back. Her lips tasted like cheap minty lip gloss and salt from her tears, but they felt like silk. It was timid on both ends, slow, exploratory. I was stiff as a board and she was trembling like a leaf. There was a second I felt I was going to throw up on her from nerves.

Twenty, maybe thirty seconds. Maybe five minutes, I don't really know. She broke away, looked me in the eyes, then started crying again. I wrapped my arms around her in a tight embrace--tight enough so that she couldn't sit up and do it again. I don't know why.

Eventually she asked me how long. I didn't know how to answer. When I was able to speak, I asked if she remembered when we were young and stumbled upon "that"--that's all I said, she nodded before I had to clarify. I told her I think it was before that. She kept crying. I managed to get the courage to ask her how long it has been for her, and she said she didn't know. She said that every time she's had a boyfriend, she's wished that they treated her like I treat her, and with her last boyfriend, she just wished he was me. I asked her how long she's been wondering if I felt this way, and she said early high school. Her friends used to tease her about how close we were and make jokes that I was in love with her. 'Game of Thrones' was really big at the time, so I guess incest was on the minds of the general populous? I don't know. She said its been in the back of her mind since then, but I guess the last few years and last few weeks especially I've not been so nonchalant as I'd thought, because she said she noticed something was different with me. She always does.

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>>83970662

She asked if that's why I never introduced any of the girls I messed around with to her. I denied that--I didn't want to put that on her, because even if its somewhat true, it isn't totally. I didn't introduce them because I didn't love them and didn't want to introduce my family to someone I didn't love. I don't know if she believed me, but she didn't question it. There was a period of silence, then she got fidgety and asked 'how much I loved her' and stumbled over a series of clarifications--did I still love her as a sister, or do I just love her romantically, what I've thought about, that sort of thing. I didn't really know how to respond. I've felt the romantic overshadowing the familial for some time, but I don't think it's ever been the case that the familial love has diminished, only that the romantic had grown into this all-encompassing thing.

I told her that she is my sister. I love her as my sister, and I love her dearly as my sister. I love her more than most brothers love their sisters, even when not accounting for any extra-familial feelings. Beyond that, I didn't know how to explain the depth of my romantic and, frankly, sexual interest in her without being overbearing. All I could say to that is that when I dream, I often dream of the two of us far away from here, with a big house and lot of kids. She sort of laugh-cried at that, then cried really hard for a bit. When she calmed again, she asked outright if I ever thought of her sexually, and I was hesitant, but eventually told her yes, more than I'd like to admit. Her heartbeat went crazy at that. I asked if she ever thought that of me, and she said yes in a very small voice. Obviously she still felt shameful about it. I guess posting here has dulled a lot of my shame over it.

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>>83970665

She tried to get up, but couldn't with how I was holding her. I felt like I was having a heart attack. She just said 'please' in this sad little voice before I could let her go. Her face was red and her makeup was smeared and I later found out my shirt was totally ruined, but that wasn't on my mind then. She kissed me again, just a lingering peck, not like before. She was really trying to hold back her tears but failing.

She asked me to tell her I loved her, but not as a sister this time. Every 'I love you' I've uttered to her for years has been laced with more, but when I tried to say it as she asked, it felt like a brick in my heart. I probably looked like an idiot, mouth opening and closing, trying to get it out. Then I started crying--tears falling, at least. I can't remember the last time I cried. I forgot how much it hurts to cry. I got it out in the end, and she looked as though the words had squeezed the air from her lungs. I cant describe how it felt to have her hear the words for what they really are. Felt like the world was ending and my dreams come true all in one. She started crying harder, but eventually she squeezed out this hoarse, pained 'I love you' in return.

I didn't feel anything from it. My heart jumped a bit, but after a second, I just felt sick again.

I asked her how long she has felt she loved me. Not wondered if I loved her, not wished her boyfriends were more like me, but loved me, truly. It caught her off guard a bit. She thought about it, trying to calm herself down. In the end, she just said she didn't know.

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>>83970669

Maybe no one will get this analogy, and maybe it's a ridiculous analogy to make, but it's all I could think of. If anyone has seen the old 'iCarly' series, one of the running plot points is that Freddie is in love with Carly but she doesn't love him back. However, at some point during the show, he saves her from I think a car accident and gets badly injured. Carly then falls head over heels for him, but Freddie gradually becomes disillusioned with it, because I think Sam tells him Carly doesn't love him because of who he is, and only because he saved her or because of what he did or something like that.

The entire time, that's all I could think of. I had the world in the palm of my hands, my dreams sitting on my lap, and all I could think of is a fucking 'iCarly' episode I saw when I was ten or something, and it was eating me alive.

I didn't want to ask. I wanted to let this play out. A horrible part of me was screaming that this is finally the moment where I get to fuck her. Fifteen years or more of love and lust, I can finally pour it into her. She just sat there, waiting, as if she was expecting it, too. Just looking at me.

I asked her if she thinks she truly loves me, or if she just wants to love me because I want her to love me--because she feels like she owes it to me. Because it would be easier than finding someone else to love her and treat her like I do.

She looked hurt, but she thought about it. All she could say was 'I don't know'. I asked her if she had ever thought of what would happen beyond this point--what it would take to make this work. She said not really.

It didn't hurt to hear, but it drained the life out of me. Just felt totally empty. Felt like my life was over. Felt worse than dying--or, at least, the thought of dying. There was a calmness in it, though.

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>>83970680

I stole one last kiss from her. I couldn't not. I wanted at least once to lean in and kiss those soft lips of my own accord. I held the back of her head and brought her close and she gave it to me. Far too eagerly. She clung to me. It was awful. She was crying and I still had tears in my eyes. It wasn't a long kiss. When I broke away she tried to pull me back in, but I pulled her into a hug so she couldn't. She started apologizing and tried to make up a different answer. I hushed her and told her I loved her no matter what. That she didn't do anything wrong. I told her I never wanted her to be anything but what she was. I told her that I was grateful that she gave me such a beautiful thing. She just cried. She cried and cried and cried. A miserable sound. She fell asleep several times only to wake up and start crying again the moment I tried to get up.

I couldn't send her home like that, so I brought her up to my room and laid her in my bed. She begged me stay with her, and so I did. I laid with her until she fell asleep, laid there another half hour, then untangled myself from her over the course of fifteen or twenty minutes, then left the room.

I have had a pack of cigarettes in a drawer in my kitchen for years--Davidoff's. 'Open in case of Emergency'. A friend's roommate, a Ukrainian guy who came to Canada for school but got stuck here when the war broke out, gave them to me from his personal supply. I think they are Swiss, but he brought several cartons over from Ukraine the last time he was there and had been rationing them because he thought Canadian cigarettes were shit. Wasn't wrong about that. After you have an American cigarette, every Canadian cigarette tastes like shit, and once you have a European cigarette, you wonder how you ever smoked Canadian cigarettes to begin with.

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>>83970684

Went outside, stood in the snow for two hours, and smoked the entire pack. Considered killing myself for a minute. Cant remember anything I thought about beyond that. Clothes smelled like shit so I took them off after I got back in, went back upstairs, and sat outside the bedroom door, and fell asleep in my boxers.

I don't know if I did the right thing, but I know that what was happening felt wrong. It felt wrong. It just felt wrong. I know my sister and that didn't feel like her. I've seen her pretend to be different to appease boyfriends, and that's what it felt like.

Woke up feeling like the dead. Poetsis had woken up before me and found me out in the hall. Brought the blanket out, sat beside me, and put it over the two of us. Don't know if she had fallen asleep again next to me, but by the time I woke up, she was awake. It was nearly noon. She didn't say anything, and neither did I. For a while, at least. Eventually she told me that I smelled awful, and we laughed a bit. She said smoking was bad, and I said I know. Then she asked if I hated her. Told her of course not. She asked if things were ruined between us now. I said I didn't think so, unless she decided she couldn't forgive me.

I asked if she was glad I stopped things last night, and she said yes. I asked if she would have let me go further if I nudged things in that direction, and she said yes. I asked if she would have regretted it if I had, and she said she didn't know. I asked how she felt now, and she said she felt stupid. I asked if she meant any of what she said, and she said in a way she did, but she spent a lot of time that morning thinking about the questions I asked her and she felt confused now.

She asked if I really felt like I said I did. I wanted to lie, but I said yes. I asked if she thought I was awful for feeling like that, and she said no. I asked if she feels differently about our relationship now, and she said not really. Then she started crying again.

(12/16)
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>>83970688

I pulled her up onto my lap and she started apologizing for not being able to feel so strongly as I did. She curled up against my sweaty, hairy, cigarette stinking body, no apprehension. Gave me a strange sense of relief.

She asked me if I'd hate her if she said she just wanted me to be her brother and nothing more. God was that a punch to the throat. I said no, though. Of course not. I asked her if that's what she wanted, and she said she didn't know. I asked if she would be able to keep our relationship the way it was even now knowing how I felt. She said she thinks so, but that she doesn't know how she feels. She asked me if I still felt the way I said I did even after last night, and I said yes. She asked if it would hurt me just to be her brother. I didn't know how to answer. Eventually I just said it would hurt me in the way that not being rich hurts me. She laughed a bit at that. She asked if I could love someone else, and I said I didn't know--'maybe I could eventually find some buxom wench I like well enough'. She smacked my arm and asked why I liked her if I wanted a 'buxom wench'. Said it must be her ass--I was tired and I regretted it the moment I said it. It was a terrible joke to make given the circumstances.

Thankfully, she started genuinely laughing and started hitting me and telling me to shut up and that I was a pervert. Sounds strange, but that was a relief, as well. Knowing that I could make a joke like that even after everything and it wasn't suddenly some big weird thing. Then she got all shy and asked if I really thought she had a nice butt. I didn't feel turned on for a single second all of the night before, but the moment she said that I went diamonds. A split second to full mast. She felt it and noticed immediately. I usually have a lot of control about that sort of thing. Tired, I guess.

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>>83970698

She want beet red and wide-eyed and I was very embarrassed. I apologized and told her maybe it would be better if we didn't talk quite like that, and she apologized back. I don't know how it made her feel, but it didn't seem to weird her out too much. Not enough to freak her out, in any case, as she just stayed right where she was and I was the one that ended up lifting her off me out of fear that I was going to blow a load in my boxers. I think she thought of it as a compliment. I tried to change the subject but she kept looking down at it, so I told her I wasn't going to show her unless she returned the favour. She started laughing and hitting me again and calling me gross. That felt nice. Still being able to joke and be casual. Maybe that sounds retarded.

Eventually we moved downstairs and talked for a long while. Very plainly, very calmly. Spoke a lot about our past, childhood, traumas--shared and otherwise, etc... I was very open about the Freudian/psychological reason why I might feel the way I do. I admitted to her that it didn't feel like a crossed wire, but I suppose I wouldn't know otherwise. She went over what she had been thinking before I got up that morning. Feeling like she couldn't be sure if the reason she started feeling this way was just because most of her boyfriend's were shit and I always did 'girlfriend' stuff with her, so it became easy to imagine me in that sort of role. I apologized and admitted that the reason I did a lot of that stuff was because it felt to me like dates and such. That made her sad, and she asked if that meant I wouldn't do that stuff with her from now on, to which I assured her I still would, as I enjoyed the time with her regardless.

I don't know how she felt about it, but the more we spoke, the more it just seemed like I had unintentionally 'groomed' her to start falling for me by being the 'perfect' stand in for a handful of failed boyfriends. Is that retarded?

(14/16)
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>>83970704

I didn't say that part out loud, but it stuck in the back of my mind.

At the end of it all, I asked her how she wanted to go forward. She didn't know. She asked me if it would be too difficult to have her move in now that this has happened. I said it didn't really change anything for me--the thoughts would be in my head either way, she just knows about them now, so the ball is in her court. I told her I want what's best for her, and that she doesn't need to feel like she owes me anything and that I still think moving here will be better for her, even if it means living with a pervert like me. She laughed, but then got kind of serious and came over and gave me a hug. Told me very plainly that she didn't actually think I was a pervert, and that it made her feel really good about herself to know I actually thought she was that attractive.

Obviously, I got hard again, and she thought it was funny this time. I was still wildly embarrassed. She said she'd try not to tease me about it, and I said I'd do my best not to pitch a tent at every moment of physical affection.

Something about that moment settled differently in her. Said something like 'this is really serious, huh?'. Said it was to me, at the very least. She got quiet, after that. Conversation had reached the end, regardless, and I was beginning to feel like we would just be talking in circles if we tried to go any further, so I told her I should probably get her home. I took a cold shower and got dressed, then off we went.

I felt pretty rough, but if anything, I didn't feel like there was suddenly a huge degree of tension between us. The ride home was mostly quiet, but when we pulled into the drive way, she leaned over and gave me a hug and kissed me on the cheek. She told me she loved me, and that she would see me in a few days. I told her I loved her, she smiled, then she left.

(15/16)
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>janny kills winemom anon and gothmom anon but will leave this spam up
what a load of shit
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>>83970710

That's it.

Work has been keeping my mind off things, but when I think about what happened, having written it out and reading it back to myself, it doesn't read like the start of something. It reads to me like I'm still hopeless and she had a moment of weakness.

Maybe I got too in my head. Maybe I thought about it too much. Maybe I should have let things unfold. Maybe I should have tore that beautiful dress off her and fucked her on my living room floor until the sun came up. Maybe it would have been perfect and everything would start to fall into place. Maybe it's just as likely that I unintentionally planted the seeds of doubt as it is that I unintentionally planted the seeds of curiosity. Maybe I cucked myself. Maybe this was my one chance and I blew it. Maybe I just didn't want to hurt my little sister. Maybe I didn't want her to live a fucked up life dating her brother after all. Maybe I'd just rather suffer alone.

I don't know. I don't know anything. I don't know. All I do know is that it's changed nothing for me. I still love her. I didn't want this talk to happen so suddenly. Maybe I set myself up for failure by coming on this strong. I didn't even mean to.

She's still sending me memes on Instagram, and I'm sending them back. We're still texting about this and that. Went to see Iron Lung again Wednesday. She didn't seem off. Held my hand during the movie. Didn't flinch away from a kiss on the cheek. It doesn't feel like much has changed, but I feel much of my hope for true reciprocity has been crushed. I feel like she's going to think more about her own feelings and realize they were all circumstantial. I feel like it's only a matter of time before her brother's one sides love becomes a weird fixation in her eyes.

I wish I showed her the other poems I wrote for her. I fear it's too late now.

It doesn't feel like I did the right thing. It does, but it doesn't

I can't help thinking that I fucked it up for myself.

(16/16)
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Seems like a good time to share some reading material for the thread imo
https://consanguinamory.wordpress.com/articles-essays/
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>1/16 of my chatgpt larp
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>>83970722

That's all I've got. Don't expect anyone to read that, but it's there. Hope you can forgive the spam, and if you can't, I don't really care. Don't imagine I'll be posting near as much from here on, at least for a while, so consider those posts an advance for the next week.

I feel fucked up. Feel sick about the whole thing. I don't know why I didn't just lean into in and seal the deal. I don't know how this is going to pan out.

Seeing her again Sunday, but the family will be there. Might not be alone with her again until next Thursday. Don't know what to expect, if anything.

Part of me wishes I was the one that made a move and she just rejected me outright rather than wind up here in this hellish limbo. At least I could have done something with that. I can't do anything with this but wait. Wait and imagine the worst.
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>>83970688
>Considered killing myself for a minute.
Poetbruh why do you have so much self hatred? Her feelings for you probably come from the fucked up childhood you both share, not "grooming" on your part. You're the only person that can truly understand her and she is the same for you. Why are you feeling guilty that the feelings are mutual?
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>>83970770
That's the funniest part, he spent the whole week "aura farming" only to deliver this prompted shit
Also he never actually left, he's at least half of the posts telling him he's a cool guy and to not kill himself
Also also he's already samefagging
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>>83933814
>>83933824
If you would consult the graph.....
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>>83971027
whats that bit about those who condemn the harshest are usually the most guilty. something like that? like if your partner continuously suspects and accuses you of cheating and lying with no evidence, they are probably cheating/lying
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>>83970651
>5 Centimeters Per Second
God, that's a real heartbreaker of a movie. Left me in bed for a week the first time I watched it. Sounds like a rough night either way. At least she doesn't hate you for any of it.
>>83970722
With her reaction being how it was, sex might have been a mistake at the time. At least that's how it looks from the outside. Reading your posts, she seems confused and overwhelmed. Adding sex to it may have ended up pushing you two apart in the end. Can't deny that I'm a bit jealous otherwise, though. Going on a Valentine's date with your favorite brother sounds nice.
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>>83970774
Idk man I get where your coming from in feeling worried and shit but to me it seems kind of hopeful? Like you gave her a chance to step back and reaffirm her love for you and form what you said it seams like she is still happy to be around you. I think now that you have this in the open she is maybe going to start "testing the waters" more and more....
Honestly tho good on you for being able to refrain and not take advantage of the situation. The way youve been hornyposting in the last few threads id have thought youd pounce on her the second you had the chance, but it seams like your big brother instincts held strong. She is still your imouto after all
Also
>5 wallpapers
Thats a fucking throwback lol
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>>83970306
Do not let the return of Poetbro distract you from the revelation of hairy Brosis pussy
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>>83970774
>Wait and imagine the worst
Don't think so catastrophically Poetbro. Based on the stories this general's had, chaotic emotional revelations are par for the course when upgrading your familial relationship. Even the worst case scenario at this point is keeping the status quo. You'll still have your sister by your side no matter what,
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>>83970774
I think you did really good all things considered. best to play the long game rather than let anything be decided by tense single moments. keep building the relationship brick by brick, and it'll never be "too late" for anything. if I were you my number one priority right now would be making her feel less nervous after having sprung a lot on her. paying attention to her emotions, easing any tensions, lightening things up, encouraging her to feel relaxed and safe around you. keep her happy and you won't have anything to feel guilty over. and if you're happy she's happy, and vice versa. remember that. she might be feeling like she's been saddled with deciding the direction of her life. not an easy position for someone like that to be in. she'll be looking to you for direction. probably best to take her along for a ride so to speak and be precise in telling if she wants off or wants a little more distance but otherwise keep her close as is comfortable without getting burned. having sex with her then and there would've been signaling something like you're coming along with me whether you like it or not. just some suggestions, wishing you the best
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>>83973350
feeling restless so here's a few more thoughts
I wanna draw more attention to how the way you feel will affect how she feels. women are a bit psychic like that. she'd be scared to possibly encourage you to do anything that would make you feel all twisted up. collect yourself, take care of yourself, don't catastrophize, remember it's a long game made up of many small things, and signal that you're well
confession is a bit of a shit trope honestly. makes everyone anxious. good for drama animes, not so much for real life and actually nurturing love. love comes out of positive environments and emotions. love is better shown than told to someone. just do your best to get to the same wavelength and if you do it well then it'll feel a lot easier, and any verbal check-ins with each other wouldn't tell you anything you don't already know
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>>83970597
>open thread
>poetbruh lives!!!!!!!
>wall of text
I'll read it later...just glad our worst fears weren't realised.
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>>83970680
your brotherly love and instincts look to be quite at odds with your romantic feelings and sexual attraction.. i think you did the right thing not pushing for more. cant have been easy given how long youve wanted this, but it just shows to me that you value her happiness, safety, and well being above your own wants and desires. keep your head up bruh, give her time. i think in the new few weeks or months those uncertain feelings of hers are going to become quite certain. just keep treating her like you have been: show her the man that could be hers.
i hope things work out for you. i really do, and i think they will.
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>>83974273
oh also complete sidenote but are you observing lent? i thought i saw you say you were christian of some kind a few threads back. if so what are you giving up?
anyone else observing?
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I wonder if poetsis knows about her brothers love for hairy pussy
I wonder if she has a hairy pussy
Much to think about
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>>83970774
He didnt respond last night... probably killed himself.... sad........
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>>83970828
>Poetbruh why do you have so much self hatred?
>Why are you feeling guilty that the feelings are mutual?
I don't feel like I'm a good person. Not a good choice of partner, at the very least. I'm neurotic. I'm unsociable. Pessimistic. Inflexible. I'm apathetic to most people. I'm at my best when things are a mess and there are problems to fix and bored when things are going well. I'm a miserable sort when I'm alone. I'm chipper enough in company, but I regress to a husk when left to my own devices.
I'm not kind to myself. I try not to be these things, but no matter what I do, no matter how many lifestyle changes I make or how successful I am on paper, I feel as if they are hardcoded into my DNA--carved into my bones. I'm like Schrodinger's cat--I'm only a person when observed by her.
Why would I want her to be with someone like me? What sort of brother would want that for his sister? How selfish is that?
I want her to have an easy life. I don't want her to have a life where we'd either have to hide our love from everyone or move across the country to start again.
Yet even after saying all that, I still want it, and I don't think I would have it in me to deny her a second time. At the very least, I want her to be in a better place before she tries to entertain this. Out of that house, healthy, feeling better about herself. I don't just want her to love me because it's too hard to love someone else.
I just want what's best for her, and I struggle to think that's me. Even if I would be the perfect, most loving partner. Even if I'd make her happier than anyone else could. Somehow, I'd still want better for her.
Maybe I'm just too hard on myself.

>>83972856
>Don't think so catastrophically
Maybe I just need to do this. Maybe I just need to stop thinking so much. Always safer to imagine and prepare for the worst case scenarios, but maybe it's not conducive to happiness. Maybe I just need to take my hands on the wheel and let things ride. I don't know.
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>>83975873
being so wishy washy like this is gayer than just being a faggot
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>>83971474
>sex might have been a mistake at the time
I do believe this to be the case. Can't help but want and wonder, though.
Hoping there are many brother sister valentine's dates in your future. I want that for you.

>>83973558
That's more or less the plan. I don't want this to have changed anything. I still want to be her rock, someone she can rely on, someone she knows wants the best for her. I don't want her to think she has to tiptoe around me, and I don't think she does think that. I just have it in my head now that doing that is manipulating her to love me somehow. Maybe all love is manipulation in one form or another--all a game of convincing someone you are the best choice for them. I'm too cynical about these things. It rarely does me any good.
>she might be feeling like she's been saddled with deciding the direction of her life
Yeah, probably feels like that. I've done what I can to reassure her that I'll stick by her no matter what, but reaffirming that probably wouldn't hurt. Like I said, this was very sudden.
>I wanna draw more attention to how the way you feel will affect how she feels
Yeah, I try to be aware of that. Always trying to get out of these negative mindsets. Posting here helps, believe it or not.

>>83974273
Maybe so. It's a nice thought.

>>83974297
>oh also complete sidenote but are you observing lent?
Of course. Attempting a full water-fast. Don't know if I have the mass to make it 40~ days, but we'll see.
Maybe I should give up pessimism as well as a backup.

>>83975893
Yeah, believe me, I know. Lifting heavy weights regrettably didn't turn me into a gigachad stone cold alpha. I'm sure you'd do much better in my shoes.

I've said it several times before, but you do get the worst version of me here. I'm not censoring myself or trying to put on airs in my posts. This is the most base, emotional part of myself that gets expressed here. This isn't how I am 90% of the time, but when I sit down and stew on it, this is what comes out.
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>>83976051
go do something fun with poetsis or smtg
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>>83976051
if you don't want it to feel like manipulation or something underhanded then it's worth being very very clear about your intentions
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>>83976175
Well yeah based on the run down of events i think that cat is waaay out of the bag now lol
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>>83971474
Trust the wisdom of our resident sibling fucker and you too may one day procreate with your sibling
>>83975168
Yea were gonna need the answer to this one poetbruhmomentum
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>>83976204
yeah just as kind of a way of life I mean. never doing anything in a way that feels sneaky or low or like you're trying to hide what you're doing or why. so long as your intentions remain clear and pure you wouldn't have to deal with those worries I think
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>>83976125
I'd like to, soon. Work's got me timed out to the gills at the moment, though. Want to start going on hikes once the snow melts. Also want to have her start working out with me. I think it would be good for her.
>>83976175
>>83976249
Well no, I don't think that's how I've ever gone about any of it. There's been romantic intent/interest, no doubt, but everything I do for her, I do it simply because I want to do it for her, I like spending time with her, and I want to make her happy--because I love her. Never tried to be underhanded with any of it or do anything with the overt intention of trying to have her fall for me, at least not actively. Would never have minded if that wound up being the case, obviously, but that's never been a frontline driving factor. Still, just feels like doing all that stuff, whether or not outright intending to get her to fall for me, may have had the same effect regardless.
>>83975168
>>83976231
Uncertain. She knows I like bush and has teased me about it, but I don't recall ever asking her plainly if she had one--not in recent memory, at least. Once upon a time I knew for a fact that she did shave regularly because she came to me to get advice to prevent ingrown hairs since I used to get them on my face and neck from shaving, but that was years and years ago. It's a bit odd to picture her with a bush, truthfully--she definitely looks like a girl who would be clean shaven.
Poetsis with bush... My resolve is already crumbling.
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>>83933828
>have to wait four fucking generations to actually get to the momcest
>only one total instance, the other one is dadcest
Lame as fuck
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>>83976051
>I do believe this to be the case. Can't help but want and wonder, though.
Yeah, I know the feeling. It probably was for the best. I can only speak for us but our first time did kind of drive a wedge between us for a bit.
>Hoping there are many brother sister valentine's dates in your future. I want that for you.
I'm not really expecting it but I appreciate it. More likely that I'll just keep having lunch with him near/on the day.
>>83976231
>Trust the wisdom of our resident sibling fucker
Before trusting my supposed wisdom I would like to remind people I am almost 40, unmarried, never really been on a date, etc. I am probably not the best example to follow.
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>>83977949
Are you a better or worse example than that woman who one night took a gamble and raped her drunk brother before his wife walked in on them and the whole event blew up into her getting disowned. She somehow found out she got pregnant from that night and her brother agreed to support her and their baby in secret?

Because when I looked for early sister incest threads you appeared around the same time as her.
You're looking pretty good compared Incestuous reverse rape single motherhood...



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