It's perfectly normal for men to be attracted to developed, post pubescent teenage girls. Let me be clear, pedophilia is deeply harmful and immoral. But it's not pedophilia to be attracted to 16/17 yo girls with big boobs, small waists, wide hips, etc.The vast majority of men who pretend to be disgusted by this are in deep denial and shame; those who are eager to call others out are often the most guilty themselves. Modern society has tried brainwashing men into thinking that being attracted to obviously fertile, attractive girls is somehow evil. However no one talks about this, because everyone who speaks up is immediately ostracized. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the reasons male suicide is so common is because men are treated like monsters for having completely normal, healthy sexual desires.
you make this thread every day man, not a single person in the world actually disagrees with you.
>>83997203it's perfectly normal for women to want men's money, to monkeybranch, and to seek out the most attractive male
even if you are attracted to them you need to keep that shit to yourself and not prey on them. dating an older guy at 16 permanently fucked up my view of men and relationships and i ended up resenting him for a long time and eventually leaving him in my twenties because it sickened me when i looked back on how naive and childlike i still was at the time.
>>83997242relationships at older ages with same aged peers can also do this
>>83997257maybe if the guy is abusive or whatever but he grew into a good man and we got along well. the way our relationship started just poisoned my view of him and we couldn't sexually satisfy each other because of it.
>>83997203I had an argument about this with my female coworker the other day who would be on your side.Physical development don't make it any less wrong to have sexual relations or contact with someone below the age of 18. The rules are less about looks, and more about is a child independent enough to make those sorts of decisions with an adult. Depending on the country and state, you get a different answer. Personally, 18 seems completely fair to me. I don't like the idea of some chud like you taking advantage of a 16 year old girl who still needs more time to make better decisions. Others would disagree.Think about it like this. In America, you have to be 21 to drink or smoke. In some other countries, it is 16. Some places don't even have an age. Same goes for age of consent.None is correct. Everyone is correct. It all depends on how much you want to protect your young population. In my eyes, that age for everything should be 18. And that is not about looks, that is about making adult decisions as an adult.Last point, did you make good decisions when you were 16? Maybe you did, but the vast majority of people would say they didn't.
>>83997296imo it should be higher. 18 is still too young n i think people should b evaluating it from the brain perspective of maturity
https://youtu.be/hqwieO9A9Kk?si=yUCL-orDjn48qqvr
>>83997318What would you raise the age of consent to?
>>83997391If anon gets there way the AOC would be 25 and men would be imprisoned for not finding wrinkles and cellulite attractive.
>>83997391idk maybe 30? because you've had enough time then to evaluate all your options, to have a 20s crisis where you ask yourself what you're even doing and then to lock yourself into habits/gain knowledge of how the system works. i think it's a good age because it's like the cornerstone of "youth" ending and the age where you either stay retarded or educate yourself/have been educated and there'd be a clear difference and obviousness as to who is worth dating versus not. ALSO i think younger ages should be tiered into smaller subsets like 10-12, 11-13, 14-17, 17-19, 20-23, 23-26, 26-30 and then free for all after 30
>Modern society has tried brainwashing men into thinking that being attracted to obviously fertile, attractive girls is somehow evil.More specifically, on the basis of life revolving around competing resource interests, as predicted by evolutionary theory, women past their prime have used increased sociocultural and political influence during the 20th century to promote, and enforce with lethal violence (the state), the idea that attraction to women in their prime is evil (morality itself being an a priori expression of personal resource interests projected outward).Women are infertile or barely fertile for the majority of their adult life, so in an aging society with low reproductive rates and an increasing proportion of old women in the population, it can be predicted and observed that attraction to fertile women will become increasingly demonized on the basis of such attraction being in conflict with the interests of old women.Scientific evidence indicates that the women men are most attracted to based on objective measures are also the women providing the greatest odds of optimal pregnancy outcomes in an evolutionary context lacking modern medicine, such women being around 16 to 17 years of age.Since men make up around half the population themselves, one could argue that they too could use their sociocultural and political influence to promote their interests or simply ignore what women say, however women are actually significantly more effective actors in this domain, especially in daily life rather than just academics.
>>83997446>30People looked at me funny when I said they'd argue for it to be higher than 25. You're out of your fucking mind if you think strict age gap laws should exist where some of these relations are criminalized.
>>83997203Bro, have you even talked to any teenage girls lately? They are dumb af. It's more like beastiality than pedophilia. Any 30yo dude attracted to high schoolers is developmentally disabled
>Back in early highschool (arnd 14-15)>Quiet individual but cutely boyish with a soft face that bisexual girls always seem to like>Manage to secure a wonderful gf. She's not exactly popular but cute and we are clearly in love>Adore making out between classes and sneaking behind our parents backs. We've been together for over a year at this point>She's noticably well endowed in the kind of "skinny with fat tits" way that only barely pubescent girls ever seem to be, but it's winter and she dresses appropriately>My gf gets invited to her close friends highschool party and I come as a plus one>Our first time ever really drinking. She's always had more friends than me so I know she has a couple times, but neither of us have been properly drunk together>Not a ton of people, less than 15 , but I don't know a single person there besides her. Orbit a bit for comfort>A couple of the guests are the friends of the hosts older brother. Brought the alcohol and stuck around. College dudes. Not a big deal. Maybe 3 of them floating around.>A group of 6 people or so at the kitchen island, including a couple of the college guys, are playing a horny drinking game I didn't recognize. Pretty innocent, similar to spin the bottle.>Obviously stay away as I'm pretty sure we are the only couple at the party>They keep trying to encourage people to join. Most of the girls and even some of the guys seem shy but ultimately as the drinking continues people join their games and loosen up>At one point it's decided that everyone should contribute to a game with some more privacy>The rules are for two guys to go into the bathroom together and compare dick sizes, and the guy with the smaller dick is removed while the bigger dick stays in the bathroom, until it's determined which guy has the biggest cock at the party>The girls are to go into the closet and do the same, comparing tit sizes>The guy with the biggest dick and girl with the biggest tits have to play 7 minutes in heaven after
>Everyone seems to be cool with this since we're all drunk and its private enough to not be an issue>After all, Im not huge or anything but I don't have a pecker for my age as long as I can get a chub and hide the fact that I'm a grower>Guys start taking turns in the restroom. A couple take suspiciously long but overall it's going as suspected>Girls are doing the same in the closet. A few boys are near the door, probably hoping to catch a peak of their young tits>The first of the college guys goes in and makes his way through quite a few other guys. Even the other college dudes come out grinning, one of them high fives him.>Realize my gf has been in the closet for a noticably long time. I didn't really consider that she might have the biggest tits at the whole party since every girl there was in layers for cold weather>At this point I'm nervous as shit, it's still not my turn to go in and the girls side is running out of contenders to go against her. A couple of them don't even bother to go in>Immediate dread>My turn in the men's room, I'm shaking with anxiety and my heart is beating heavy>College guy is standing in there with his pants already halfway down his legs, maintaining an easily 7 inch erection. Shaved and all. Way bigger than my barely-pubescent penis>Try to get a boner to at least try and complete but I can't get any blood flowing at all, at best I'm maintaining something that looks about half the size of my thumb>He starts laughing and in my drunken embarrassment my eyes start to water>Leave the room and he leaves the door open so he can shout some quip at me, no idea what it was but I remember him comfortably letting the whole party see his cock in that moment>My gf is still in the fucking closet, either waiting for another contender or waiting for the winner>Two more boys go in after me and are quickly done>Gfs friend, the partys host, enters the bathroom to tell him he won, she's in there for over a few minutes
>he swings the door open, struts over to the closet, pants totally off and stiff cock on display>Opens the door, I see my gf standing there with her tits hanging down over her ribs and her youthful flat belly on display. she quickly covers her nipples so the party doesn't see>Makes eye contact with me, my face is beat red, eyes full of frustrated and embarrassed tears>She glances from me to his rod multiple times. It's definitely her first time seeing the cock of an adult man.>He flexes it to make it bounce. Either for her or for the crowd.>She mouths to me that she "won't do anything" and he closes the door behind him>They are in there for over 30 minutes. I have no way of getting home, no friends here, and nobody is talking to me while I sit on the couch lone>Can't hear anything at all from the closet. The music is way too loud and the other kids want to give them privacy>Eventually the closet door opens, hes still not wearing pants and his flaccid cock is hanging down his leg. He makes his way over to show off to a couple of girls I'm in class with. One puts a hand on his hip while they flirt>GF comes from the closet to console me. She has her clothes back on but her bra is missing. Promises me nothing happened>At this point we are both sloshed and go to find a room to sleep in one of her friends extra rooms>She's trying to make me feel better by initiating sex, grinding up on me and kissing me. Her breath tastes like some part of him I don't want to imagine>I rest my hands on her ass and the blood rushes out my face as I realize she's not wearing her panties under her leggings>She frantically starts saying that she left them at home, keeps trying to get me horny and distracted>Takes her leggings and shirt off, I can see red marks where he was touching her, there's hickeys on her fat tits>She pulls my pants down, as I lay, drunk, shaking, fully soft
>She hops on me and straddles me with her nude, used, body, starts to grind her pussy against me until I finally get a chub she can put inside her>I've never felt her so loose. Her pussy feels like that of an entirely different person.>Wetness I don't recognize trickles out of her loose, damp, pussy, and onto my leg.>She grinds on my mostly flacid penis. Eventually I cum, barely hard at all, and we both fall asleep>Never speak of it again. The following morning her mom picks us up and on the way out, her friends brother gives me a pat on the back and says "better luck next time">The following week she gets a text from a name I don't recognize seeing if she wants to come to a college party>I pretend I don't see her say yes, and that weekend I tell her I believe her wholeheartedly when she says she will be out of town with her mom and can't hang out.>Eventually I see her less and less outside of school, with regular sex stopping almost immediately>She still gives me little pecks in the school hallway and let me hold waist. Anything beyond that she brushes off>One day she tells me that she's moving in with her sister on the college campus and will be there from now on. She gives me a passionate tongue kiss, and I never see her again outside of class. She stops talking to me entirely.>Never even properly broke up>I know for a fact that she doesnt have a sister
>>83998553least fake greentext story
>>83998553Holy shit bro. Sorry, that story is genuinely a nightmare, I'm not sure if I could feel much more betrayed. Practically impossible to get hard under the circumstances too. I'm hoping >>83998652 is right and you're just a lying faggot
>It's perfectly normal for men to be attracted to developed, post pubescent teenage girls. Let me be clear, pedophilia is deeply harmful and immoral. But it's not pedophilia to be attracted to 16/17 yo girls with big boobs, small waists, wide hips, etc.>The vast majority of men who pretend to be disgusted by this are in deep denial and shame; those who are eager to call others out are often the most guilty themselves. Modern society has tried brainwashing men into thinking that being attracted to obviously fertile, attractive girls is somehow evil. However no one talks about this, because everyone who speaks up is immediately ostracised. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the reasons male suicide is so common is because men are treated like monsters for having completely normal, healthy sexual desires.
>>83998944Kek, bodied that freak.
>>83998553You should add a bit where she "accidentally" sends you a video of what actually happened in the closet bro
>>83998800It is real unfortunately and yea with all my emotions and different thoughts running thru my head it was difficult to fuck. Crazy thing is I ended up being kinda an incel the rest of hs and ended up reminiscing on that night sometimes masturbating to the thought of what when on in that closet while looking old pics of her >>83999134At this point I wish I had that footage I think it would help me get over it once n for all
>>83999251... no I meant about to get in the closet with the guy. I was imagining how I might get myself hard in the small amount of time.
>>83999272By the way, what even is the chad play here? What were you supposed to do in that situation?>decide to leave the party once the idea is floated<but now you look like you're scared of losing your gf because you have a small penis>fight the guy over your girl after you've already lost<but you just get your shit wrecked because he's probably twice your size>decide to leave the party with your girl after you've already lost<but you still probably have to fight the guy OR she just brushes you off and you embarrass yourself Do you just have to dump the bitch and move on? Is it a necessary character development moment? I suppose you could just not go to the party but then you're just cucked while not being there.
>>83997203Idk this sounds exactly like pedophilia. You would have gone to Epsteins Island.
>>83998944>>83998968>>83999458When did /r9k/ become so full of seething roasties? Why are there women on my incel board?
>>83999510Ask op how many women he has sex with?Its 0So don't you find it strange he's pushing this? Try having sex with legal aged women first before advocating LEGAL age women
>>83998944lmao its always the ugly nerds that argue this shit, I really hope they aren't delusional enough to think they could pull a girl when they couldn't a grown woman
>>83999542Their logic is a younger girl is easier to control
>>83999542>>83999550I'm surprised foids can read enough to even misinterpret the post this horribly
>>83999542They don't need to pull, they groom them early on. I honestly think its all one giant cope for the fact that they can't get a gf naturally.
>>83999452My play was not to participate in sexual games. You can just opt out. If your gf doesn't also opt out, well, that ain't your gf.
>>83999510this was never an incel board let alone yours. we've been here since the start and then you retards flooded in to have your 24/7 pity parties
>>83999515ok fine. i've had sex before and yet think op seems right on. thoughts?
>>84000223I was just baiting I don't actually care about any of this actual pedophiles run our government nothing matters Go crazy
>>83997203reminder most countries don't consider it pedophilia to sleep with 15 year old (although they do look down on it)thr obsession with 18 is purely american
