it seems like it only works if you're a turbo normie in a normie enviroment. Once you get into autism/ethnic/special interests or some other niche territory these things wont happen. I know this because while there is nothing wrong with my face (in fact I'm have a rather pretty one) I'm east asian and the enviroment I grew up consisted of country boys and basic girls. At one point I had more female friends than male ones yet no one ever tried to set me up with anyone because the uspoken rule was that asian men weren't even seen as sexual beings and the kpop thing was always a niche thing limited to preteen girls.
>>84001052Are you a manlet? I bet you are
>>84001052Meeting someone through a hobby/interest is a meme. It does happen through mutual friends/acquaintances or by happenstance (which has become exceedingly rare in today's age). I'm a turbo autist and I've meet and dated women who were friends of friends or family. Never "set up" though, it just happened organically. >At one point I had more female friends than male ones yet no one ever tried to set me up with anyone because the uspoken rule was that asian men weren't even seen as sexual I'm guessing because of your behavior they must have all thought you were gay or not interested in dating. There is no unspoken rule lol. However, some guys really do just project an asexual vibe that women sniff out very quickly.
Never spoke to a girl who isnt a cashier or my mom for 8y since i was in hs
>>84001052I'm white and had they same experience. >>84001077not op, but I'm not. If you're at all different socially, it's really hard to get a partner.>>84001091I always got the classic, any girl would be happy to date you, after being friendzoned, but never help, advice, or help meeting the "any girl" that would have been. It's cruel how they do it, but it's an acknowledgement you're worth having around as a friend, but too unworthy as a man to be worth dating or helping find someone to date you. > no unspoken rule lol.He mentioned being in a "country" area kind of. If that's true it might actually be the case though.
>>84001121And I was homeschooled hs, that alone fucked me up really bad and made me not talk to any women other than my abusive mom.
>>84001128There is nothing you can do about it wait for another reroll
>>84001091how does one project a 'sexual' vibe without getting into sex pest territory? I mean women constantly lament how they wanna be seen as 'people' first and not romantic prospects.
>>84001144I still try to talk to women and some talk to me, it just is incredibly hard to make them interested if they sniff out you're an adult virgin who never had a gf.
I brought this up when I was 18 with the doctor that diagnosed me with minor depression, she basically laughed it off with something like "oh you don't have to worry about that, it will just happen" well bitch it's been more than 15 years and it never just happened, I want a refund.
>>84001123>I always got the classic, any girl would be happy to date you, after being friendzoned, but never help, advice, or help meeting the "any girl" that would have been. It's cruel how they do it, but it's an acknowledgement you're worth having around as a friend, but too unworthy as a man to be worth dating or helping find someone to date you.You need to look at things differently. That girl who friendzoned you might ask you to hang out somewhere with a group of her friends and some might be women, that's how it happens. Women don't usually ever give out dating advice to men or set them up with their friends.
>>84001164Thats the fate of the new world order male you dont deserve anything we have no value
>>84001187That doesn't happen, guys get friendzoned because women are too weak to tell a guy off even if they find him disgusting so at most you end up with a toxic platonic relationship where neither person really likes the other and the girl keeps abusing the guy instead of telling him to leave with passive aggressive shit
>>84001187That's mindset I had, but the one time I found myself in that situation, I found the female friend I was with sabotaging it.>other girl actually complements, says nice things>friends cuts off, interjects, etcI genuinely believe a lot of women will be your friend if they don't want to date you, then get annoyed when they see a girl who might actually date you talking to you.>>84001188Honestly, think I'd have been much better if not for being homeschooled. I see plenty of guys do fine. I just seem a bit inhuman as a result of past issues.
>>84001160By being comfortable, open and slightly flirtatious around them. So if you've never had sex, women instinctively pick up on that because you're not comfortable enough to be playful in social situations. And it has nothing to do with signaling sexual or romantic desire, we're not talking about that, it's more the kind flirting that's friendly and fun rather than sexually charged. It tells them "he's confident around women, he likes women" etc.
>>84001052It happened naturally if you weren't a complete hermit. Internet is a fucking cancer, a stain on human history. There is such a thing as too much freedom and convenience. We need struggle to find purpose. Struggle creates character and it gives you a real purpose to fight for. Having everything given to you creates sub-human weaklings
>>84001247Of course, but I meant it more literally. You're right when a woman "friendzones" you it's just her way of putting you down gently. But in cases where they mean it and keep you around as a friend, their way of helping you out is by including you in their social circle. >>84001288>That's mindset I had, but the one time I found myself in that situation, I found the female friend I was with sabotaging it.I've actually experienced this as well. >I genuinely believe a lot of women will be your friend if they don't want to date you, then get annoyed when they see a girl who might actually date you talking to you.And my reasoning is that they become conscious of the fact that they made a 'wrong' choice. They start questioning themselves and what not
>>84001343> they become conscious of the fact that they made a 'wrong' choice. They start questioning themselves and what notI could completely see this being true. In a weird place where I'm not normalfag enough for a woman who knows me to want to date, but also have enough good traits to at least get noticed by those who don't. Creates the need for the other girl to validate her decision by trying to destroy any interest anyone else may show.I understand more and more why people saying friends with women doesn't work well, but also don't know a better way to meet others than by association.
>>84001343>But in cases where they mean itThey never do, that's what I'm getting at. Friendzone is there simply to get a dude to fuck off or worse becoming an exclusive emotional dumpster for their vapid workplace drama that will never see her friend group.
>>84001187>That girl who friendzoned you might ask you to hang out somewhere with a group of her friends and some might be women, that's how it happensI was designated as the 'safe guy' for all the wrong reasons. When one girl gave me the bestie treatement all of them treated me as a asexual being. In contrast the guy who hooked up with one chick in a social group will likely bang her friend too.
>>84001052I tried dating apps for years and never made it beyond a ~1 month long fling. Every meaningful relationship I've been in started with meeting in person. I've dated 3 girls seriously, and all of them I met because they were friends of my friends. You need to be friendmaxxing and working your network. That's the best way to meet women nowadays.
>>84002146How the fuck do you even get anything out of a dating app? Best i can get is a few full sentence responses and a soft rejection when i invite her out.
>>84001052>more female friends than male oneslike actual gay people>no one tried to set me up>not setting yourself upYour problem is you're so low testosterone everyone thinks you're gay.
>>84002588I knew a kid in 1st grade who only hung out with girls, and I couldn't help but wonder what was going on with him. In high school he was gay.Same thing across my street was this kid who hung out with a girl from down the street a lot. He also turned out gay.
>>84001052A couple times for me but it's some energetic thing, all girls I meet regardless of location, situation, or setting, every woman who shows me interest is actually some fervent lesbian or completely unavailable, as in she's married or has a bf, but still wants to keep me around to save her from her own shitty choices or some shit.Then they get mad at me if I ever question why they're trying to kiss me when they're married or if I pose any opposition to their shitty political or philosophical opinion.Excuse me for not placating you just so I can stick my dick in you, I thought we were supposed to be objectification and base primal gratification?
>>84002514I got a lot of rejection but my strategy is basically to exchange like 5-10 messages with them so they know I'm not insane and can carry a conversation then ask them out. If they ghost or say no just move on.
>>84002842Yeah that's what ive been doing but no luck so far. Guess i gotta keep trying. Now I have a case where i matched with a girl and she responded normally but when i eventually asked if she wants to meet she told me that she would like to but is busy that day and didint suggest any other date. Any way to salvage this or is it over?
>>84002146>>84002514In theory dating apps should be better, but people are too stupid and don't use them properly. Match and then talk irl asap.
>>84003393This probably isn't her not being interested so much as it is her being retarded. Suggest another date.
>>84003433Shit got nothing to lose anyway. Ill report back.
Yes it obviously always happened. You need to be physically present and interactive to secure dates with strangers. The problem for the past 10 years with dating apps and the dominance of social media apps is that men and women are now a "menu" of different flavors, and we have the option is getting a detailed account of each person before we meet them. Also the average person is a fucking narcissist anyways, and refuses to create any lane for improvement. It's rare to find a couple dating after 2020 that isn't in a long term relationship (3+ years) because their brains have not been trained to tolerate their partners. They can just find someone else.
>>84001052it's the same as a white guy, nobody tries to hook you up reallyand country people are inbred retards scared of outsiders once I saw women trying to steer girls away from me and older women doing the same out of jealousy I get well I'm now enraged
>>84001052i think it does get harder as you got older but in my early 20's i got a couple of GF's and had a few women appear interested in memet them all organically, from attending a walking group, joining a local shooting range and taking part in some employment related coursesmy first girlfriend actually ended up introducing me to my second, life can be funny like thatso it happens, though it's dependent on where you live and what's available to you of course
