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Moids, are you ready to kill Iranians?
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>>84015382
>culture has been openly racist towards me for my entire life
>wanted me out of higher education, sports, corporate America, etc
>women are all fat and angry
>the youth is brown and foreign
Why the fuck would I ever fight for this country? lmfao.
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>>84015382
>Moids, are you ready to bomb Iranians?
ftfy
Sure, i'm sick of hearing about how they are two weeks away from nuclear capabilities.
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>>84015415
>the youth is brown and foreign
America was originally brown tho, it's the Europeans who are foreigners
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>>84015457
The brown natives were not the original inhabitants. There were successive waves of migration.
This argument is retarded.
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>>84015457
That's fine. Just don't ask me to fight your battles, retard. lol. I don't give a fuck. Fuck this country and fuck you too.
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>>84015382
won't be any boots on the ground and i'm not draft eligible, they'll just glass them if anything, but nothing ever happens
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>>84015382
If the military is desperate enough to take someone like me then the war is already lost
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The first wave killed all the equines, most camelids, and elephantids.
The second wave killed and cannibalized the first.
So your argument is an argument against migration. It should not be allowed based on the history of migrations resulting in genocides and extinctions.

Also, in the legal sense, they were not foreign as there were no laws.
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>>84015465
White people are literally immigrants in this land, as anyone who isn't a native
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>>84015415
>>culture has been openly racist towards me
That's some victim mentality right there. When was the last time you were discriminated against for being white in your personal life?
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>>84015505
Natives are immigrants too
What do you think they just spawned into the server?
They didn't
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>>84015510
Every day. Look at any ad convincing white women to fuck something other than white men.
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You're coming with us foid
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>>84015523
...You get served targeted ads for interracial pornography?
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>>84015465
There is no evidence of a pre-existing human population in America that was displaced, the ancestors of Native Americans were the first inhabitants of this region, arriving from Siberia via the Bering Strait. Subsequent migrations were literally Europeans who came to colonize the land
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>>84015557
I want this country impoverished. I want you all living in squalor. Nothing would make me MORE happy actually. When I hear a new statistic indicating the American quality of life is further eroding, that brings me joy.
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>>84015511
By this logic every human outside of Africa is an immigrant
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Since moids are so violent, you'd think they'd all be for this.
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>STOOOOLEENNNN LAAAAND o algo
aren't most countries conquered several times over
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>>84015382
>Moids, are you ready to kill Iranians?

I must kill Iranian because government told me
I trust government completely
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why are people acting like there's going to be a draft?
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>>84015382
I won't be conscripted because I already served, got out and I am now disabled. I woke up in pain just now trying to sleep and wanted to say hi to internet strangers.
>sobbing rn
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>>84015457
>America was originally brown tho
What is this America? It isn't the United States, because that is a social construct which was initially an overwhelmingly White nation with legally recognized supremacy for whites throughout most of its history. It isn't any of the original colonies which were all also overwhelmingly White nations. Is it something such as the Algonquin or Sioux States? Apache? No. Anon isn't referring to those at all. It's just a giant rock you consider to have some significance for brown people. It is just a rock, it does not have an attribute whereby it necessitates occupation by brown people.

America is a social construct. When someone says "America" or more specifically "The United States of America," they are referring to a social construct. Never mind the fact that one may define a social construct however they see fit (as you can define "America" as "The 'continent' of America," and define it as being inherently a "brown" state because brown people happened to live there), the original United States was very clearly one in which Whites possessed legally recognized primacy; naturalization as of 1790 was extended only to White people, but not brown. Brown people only became citizens as a result of loopholes or State discretion, but the institutional supremacy of Whites was largely recognized everywhere in the Union, whether some browns managed or not. But this isn't the point, which is that anon said the youth was brown and foreign.

North America does not have an "indigenous" African population. South Americans are not indigenous to almost all of North America. Same with Arabs, Jews, Indians, Asians, even Whites. When anon says the youth is brown and foreign, he is correct, and the overwhelming majority of brown youth in the U.S.A. are not those descended from the tribes that lived on this rock. He also did not specify that the continent itself was not originally occupied by brown people, which makes your "argument" a straw man.
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>>84015563
>There is no evidence of a pre-existing human population in America that was displaced, the ancestors of Native Americans were the first inhabitants of this region, arriving from Siberia via
There is an abundance of evidence for displacement, genocide and cannibalization.
>>84015572
Yes. And every migration has resulted in displacement, genocide and cannibalization.
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>>84015589
Yeah, that's for China or Russia. No way Iran would demand a draft unless other nations get involved.
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im not physically capable of serving in the military
maybe they can put me in charge of the missiles if i promise not to point them at tel aviv
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>>84015599
Also inside africa, not just outside. Africa had it's own migrations within itself.
And they also resulted in displacement, genocide and cannibalization.

There is no instance in history that migration has been good for the original inhabitants, whether those are other peoples or animals.
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>>84015382
>>84015415
Even within this picture, how many white men are there? The two on the right are Jewish. The two on the left are brown. The guy in the back looks to be Asian. Marco Rubio isn't even a white man. What a cucked ass nation.
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>>84015382
I'm good, sweetheart. The schizoman had a schizo plan; thus, they don't want me.
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>>84015614
Fun fact, if Iran nuked NYC and LA (the two largest population centers), America would go from being minority white to 80% white by tomorrow. Also you would surely end up with the most right wing president of all time and I don't mean Trump "right wing" either.
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>>84015523
>ad
I said in your personal life, and you couldn't even conjure a single anecdote that happened offline. That's the face of privilege right there.
Even though I'm white, I have witnessed hundreds of examples of non whites being discriminated in real life. My best friend is black (shout out to my boy jackson) and I literally saw him being accosted by cops while I was right next to him, and I was ignored. I've had neighbors in my condo complain about his presence, one time a boomer literally told me that our condo wasn't for "that kind of people". More than once a karen tried to stop him from getting inside and I had to walk all the way to the entrance to explain that he was my guest.
These are daily occurrences for people who are actually discriminated against.
Meanwhile your "example" revolves around your addiction to pornography and your detachment from real life because you live on the internet.
This is how we know a person hasn't suffered discrimination for a day in his life.
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>>84015596
Social constructs are liable to change mate, if anything, the fact it's a social construct means it cannot be essentially a white nation.
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>>84015589
we've all died for israel like 28 times in the last year according to these people
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>>84015510
For white men, seeing white women on buzzfeed say they have privilege caused them to have PTSD that they require reparations for even 10 years later and is the worst racial injustice in American history according to them.
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>>84015646
>Even though I'm white, I have witnessed hundreds of examples of non whites being discriminated in real life
I don't give a fuck. I'm not reading the rest.
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you know in the past they used to do a false flag to push us into war, now they dont even put in any effort for that shit.

Anyways, im aged out of the draft, plus im a diagnosed schizo
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>>84015651
I know your worldview is immune to facts, it's settled in bigotry and ignorance.
You have never faced discrimination for being white in your entire life
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>Here you go, anon. You are a good boy, right?
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>>84015658
I don't give a fuck, cuck. I'm not fighting for your brown/black America. I legit hate you. I truly do mean that.
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>>84015650
Even anonymously, with the power of imagination, he couldn't even make up a random fake story about being discriminated against and he went straight to interracial pornography, lmao.
You know privilege when you see it. This is it. I could spend days exemplifying every single moment I encountered racism in my personal life, as a white person witnessing from the outside.
Meanwhile the worst thing that chud could think of is interracial porn.
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I want my fellow American to know this, as a white man, I hate you. Truly. I hate your culture. I hate everything about you. I'm not proud to be America. I'm not proud to be a b ball worshiping, nigger music listening, ebonics speaking cuck. I'm not proud to be apart of your gay multi-racial experiment. I'm here out of the circumstance of being born into your fucked up creation. If Muslims flew a plane into a building tomorrow, it wouldn't impact my life. I feel nothing for you. To me, you are either a white cuck or you are some shitskin, neither of which I feel any kinship with. Now go die next to your nigger brother on the battlefield so I can post pictures of your dead body on the internet and mock you.
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>>84015664
I feel sorry for you, mr. Incel. I know that behind that facade of hatred there's a deeply hurt little boy who picked up the worst coping mechanisms
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>>84015680
The internet rotted your brain beyond reason
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>>84015611
"natives" are just Asian immigrants
DNA testing was done to figure out what part of Asia crossed into north america
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>>84015647
No, that's the point. The fact that "black" is a social construct does not mean it cannot be defined as essentially the descendants of various ethnic groups. The point is that anon is free to authentically and validly say that he would never die for a country that is not a nation where whites have supremacy, and he has arguments that the social construct of "America" is a white nation that are no less valid than the argument that
>Brown People Lived In This Spot Therefore The Social Construct of a Nation That Occupies This Spot Is Essentially Originally Brown. CheckMate Atheists.
It's a shit argument from a shit intellect. White people founded the actual nation which we term the "USA." This is all there is to it. Though its social definition may change, he simply rejects these changes as unwanted or inauthentic according to his values, but this assessment is no less valid than the assessment that the American continent isn't originally brown because originally no humans lived here at all.
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>>84015596
Ok ChatGPT
>>84015599
>There is an abundance of evidence for displacement, genocide and cannibalization
Yes, by Europeans and Christopher Columbus to lay the foundations for a new world order. Columbus was financed by his family and the Rosicrucian movement for this purpose, which is why he displayed red crosses on his ship's sails, similar to the Knights Templar who worshipped Baphomet
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>>84015599
You realize that someone got to America first before anyone else, right?
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>>84015708
>Ok ChatGPT
>lots of words means chatgpt
No. Brainfried.
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>>84015696
An immigrant by definition is someone migrating to an existing country or inhabited land. No one lived in north America prior to natives, they are the original peoples.
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>>84015696
Their origin is Ancient North Eurasians and Ancient Eastern Eurasians specifically.
In at least two waves of migration.
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>>84015718
If I got a job in Antarctica, would I be an immigrant or a native?
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>>84015728
People live in Antarctica and have already discovered it, nice try
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>>84015680
I think you would be surprised how many of us agree with you. Of course on nu/r9k/ there are spambots flooding this place with replies to the contrary so I wouldn't take this place seriously.
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>>84015718
These "original peoples" arrived in two separate waves (at least)
So which tribes are original and which aren't?

And if the argument is the originality, what is the defense against prohibiting immigration into europe now?
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>>84015728
You've been beaten to it by decades of antarctic explorers
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>>84015680
Here with you, you are not alone.
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>>84015382
Holy fuck Chuck Schumer is such an ugly kike. Literal happy merchant tier. If you ever hear him speak, he has the most stereotypical and annoying whiny Jew voice imaginable.
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>>84015735
It's not spam bots, little chud. You know this place existed before 2016 and it wasn't an incel cesspool back in the day?
This isn't your echo chamber. The voices of disagreement are real people showing you how dumb and ignorant you are
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>>84015736
>So which tribes are original
The ones who got here first. So no matter what perspective you adopt, European colonizers were definitely immigrants and so are you
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>>84015748
https://youtu.be/3qHv_riV1AM
4chan was political back in the day. The politics was Project Chanology, and trying to take down Scientology.
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>>84015736
>So which tribes are original and which aren't?

Doesn't matter because they obviously mixed with eachother and/or took different regions.

>And if the argument is the originality, what is the defense against prohibiting immigration into europe now?

WTF are you talking about? Theres no defense against immigration into europe because europeans already have migrated all over the world themselves for starters.
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>>84015748
You really think anyone takes you seriously? I would be concerned if I were you. The future will not be kind to people like you.
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>>84015735
As I said, anyone who doesn't agree with me is a cuck. Any white man that wakes up and tells himself he loves the USA, the same USA that he is a second class citizen in, is a cuck. They push you out of corporate America. Push you out of leadership roles. They push you out of higher education. They push you out of sports. They make nigger music popular. They make nigger culture the center piece. They tell your women to fuck all types of men 24/7 from every angle. They make you second place EVERY FUCKING WHERE and they country cheers it on but yeah, go be first place on the battlefield. lol
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>>84015742
>not alone
His hatred is literally the byproduct of what loneliness does to a young male impressionable mind
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Who would have thought a draft would get /pol/scrotes to come out of the woodworks? Don't worry though. If you are in America, there's an excellent chance you are not going to be in a combat position. For every one combat position, there's four support.

>>84015753
Chanology was complete cancer and most of 4chan agreed. Anonymous always did things for lulz, not moralfaggotry like Chanology. Chanology retards were openly mocked on 4chan. Even when there was the "Ron Paul, /b/!" filter, it wasn't political, it was for fun just like all the other word filters such as changing femanon to cumdumpster.
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>>84015761
>>84015742
>>84015735
Holy shit, these chud reply chains are getting more and more inorganic by the day
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>>84015748
Where? I only see leftists being assraped in this thread. Point to a specific instance. Is it here?
>>84015611
>>84015696
Because anon's point is that claiming any arbitrary ethnic group has possession over a territory for being "first" is arbitrary and does not constitute a real argument. Either one of the two ethnic groups immigrated to the empty land which they were not indigenous to and settled it. Taking a position like "the first ethnic group to get there deserves it" is more of a religious dogma than any argument of substance.
>>84015754
WTF there is no argument against immigration into America because the ancient ethnic groups that colonized it migrated elsewhere for starters.
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>>84015717
Are you telling me that in the space of five minutes you had time to read , wrote all of these shitty paragraphs and complete the captcha? the writing style is a dead giveaway. Next time, think critically instead of shitposting
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>>84015751
The ones who got here first were displaced, genocided and cannibalized.
I am no immigrant. My ancestors have remained on this piece of land longer than yours has theirs.
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>>84015753
4chan wasn't an echo chamber for right wingers, conservatives and pseudo nazis (aka chuds in a nutshell). It's not that they weren't here, it's that they were just one group amongst several others.
Of course the 2016 election changed it all, moot left because of it, Epstein literally paid him to create /pol/ and seed right wingism in this place. And now adolescents who don't even know who moot was, have the nerve to accuse others of being spambots? Get a grip
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>>84015773
>if I pretend its not real, its not real
You can keep coping, at least "chuds" don't deny reality
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>>84015778
>WTF there is no argument against immigration into America because the ancient ethnic groups that colonized it migrated elsewhere for starters.

Native Americans didn't migrate into inhabited land or destabilize existing civilizations. Surely your IQ isn't that low you can't tell the difference between the two.
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>>84015787
>Epstein literally paid him to create /pol/ and seed right wingism
yeah but you made that up though
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>>84015761
>he is a second class citizen in,
You're not a second class citizen, and that's why you couldn't come up with a single example of discrimination in your life, having to resort to your fetish interracial pornography.
This place has literally rotted your brain and I don't blame you for being a delusional loner who fell for narratives.
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>>84015780
The post came 25 minutes after yours, actually.
>>84015457 01:06:39
>>84015596 01:31:15
How have standards fallen so far that you think three paragraphs in 25 minutes is some Herculean task? Pathetic.
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>>84015754
>Doesn't matter because they obviously mixed with eachother and/or took different regions.
Through rapes, genocides and displacements.
>WTF are you talking about? Theres no defense against immigration into europe because europeans already have migrated all over the world themselves for starters.
So because the natives migrated all over the americas and displaced each other they also have no defense against immigration.
By this logic there should be no borders.
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Oh look, /pol/ cannot keep their shit on their containment board again. Even further reason to ban /pol/ from all other boards.
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>>84015791
Your whole ideology is denying the reality that you, a white man, is by no means a persecuted, discriminated against group.
You know nothing about reality because you live on the internet. Loneliness made you that way
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>>84015799
>yeah but you made that up
Oh no no no. Looks like someone didn't pay attention when the files were spammed on 4chan!
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>>84015796
That is a moral position that you have. I can tell you have an intense feeling in your tummy, but that isn't an argument. There is no objective quality whereby getting to a land before another creature of an arbitrary species imparts a quality of "deserving" that land. You really sound like a Christian retard.
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>>84015796
This is untrue, there is a vast history of native americans migrating into other american civilizations and displacing, genociding and destroying them.
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>>84015799
Who's denying reality now, delusional chud? Go look it up
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>>84015382
Zoomers are not going to go to war or fight for a country that is run by pedophiles. The social contract has been completely destroyed. No wife, no kids, no hope of ever buying a house, no future. The6 are a powder keg.
>we'll just draft them
They're going to kill you
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>>84015772
The worst 2000s cancers are Infinitely better than the post-2016 cancers you oblivious newfaggot. Also the entire internet is worse now it isn't just this shithole.
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>>84015800
You have zero arguments against anything I said. You can't argue against me because I'm right. Furthermore you just agree with what's happening because you yourself are a cuck. Everything I listed is "progress" in your eyes. The white man's displacement is "progress." lul. Yeah fuck you and your country.
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>>84015813
>there is a vast history of native americans migrating into other american civilizations and displacing, genociding and destroying them.
Like European settlers did? Someone got to this land first and it wasn't europeans, rendering you an immigrant descended from immigration
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>>84015812
Same can be applied to any "Anti-white" arguments you have then. No one should care about "white genocide" (which is not real by the way) or whatever and in fact its a good thing and we should cheer it on.
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>>84015778
>Because anon's point is that claiming any arbitrary ethnic group has possession over a territory for being "first" is arbitrary and does not constitute a real argument.
Yet you consider the brown people who are coming to Europe en masse as colonizers and a great replacement. Once again, with you it's always a variable geometry to justify your country built on genocide
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>>84015787
They were a part of the site though.
They loved edgy humor
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>>84015811
moot met with epstein, where's your proof for anything else you're claiming? also /new/ predates /pol/ by years and was shut down because moot didn't like the rightwing bias of reality it echoed
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>>84015786
>The ones who got here first were displaced, genocided
By Europeans.
You are literally an immigrant in this land, you have as much ancestry here as an african
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>>84015825
>Like European settlers did? Someone got to this land first and it wasn't europeans, rendering you an immigrant descended from immigration
That someone was displaced by other immigrants, raped, genocided and cannibalized.
So all modern native americans are also immigrants.
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>>84015813
SOME Native tribes and civilizations had conflicts with each other but that's not the argument. They were still the original inhabitants of the Americas not immigrants. The whitey cope used to justify colonialism never made sense anyway because at least people going to war with neighbors over conflicts has a justifiable context as opposed to getting on ships and invading and killing total strangers and pretending to be more civil than them after.
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>>84015505
American "natives" immigrated itnto America from Asia, you argument is retarded.
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>>84015814
question 4u2 lil guy, post that source, surely you're not just spamming your bunkercuck script, right?
>>84015835
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>>84015836
>By Europeans.
By the ancestors of modern native americans.
Who were then subjected to the same by european immigrants.
Do not confuse the timeline.
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>>84015826
>Same can be applied to any "Anti-white" arguments you have then. No one should care about "white genocide" (which is not real by the way) or whatever
Yes, all true.
>in fact its a good thing and we should cheer it on.
If you like.
>>84015829
No it isn't. You need to quit with appealing to moral dogma. My argument isn't that America as it is "must have white people," or that brown people coming to America are uniquely different, only that there is no reason America is inherently a brown nation, and that the argument that because a social construct is defined as occupying the spatial area where brown people once existed does not mean that the social construct is now "Brown." This is beyond imbecilic.
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>>84015465
>The brown natives were not the original inhabitants. There were successive waves of migration.
>This argument is retarded
Why are white people always spreading lies?
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>>84015832
>a part of the whole
True, but chuds quickly mistook that part for the whole and begun thinking that they owned the place. People who did edgy humor ironically were replaced by people who truly believed natsoc bullshit. The rest is history.
Things got so bad that I, someone who posts here since before r9k even existed, more than 16 years ago, got accused of being a "nu" spam bot by someone old enough to be my son. Pathetic and delusional virgins ruined 4chan
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>>84015841
The history of humanity is built on migration, retard , it was the way of life of hunter-gatherers. The fact remains that Europeans destroyed native civilizations and sovereign countries
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>>84015835
>>84015845
Epstein literally "asked" moot to create /pol/ back in a day where you were probably in middle school, and it's all in the files, you pathetic drooling retard
Keep ignoring reality, your worldview is immune to facts, you don't care about it
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>>84015859
>I, someone who posts here since before r9k even existed
that's really sad man, you're up arguing with teenagers in your 40s? 50s? you should probably consider suicide
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>>84015751
>The ones who got here first
Then why do you support Palestinians?
They weren't there first.
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>>84015810
I am not white, I am Jewish. I hate shitskins because they are proud for no reason what so ever. When the white settlers came over, they built their own communities for themselves and the shitskins are now foreign invaders talking down on them. Building something for yourself as a people like cities, towns, etc is a lot more than getting a job and working a 9-5, being a leech on society. Anyone who argues with this lacks even the most basic understanding of social groups, esp during those times. You are a brat of the modern world, your lens of the world was made for you by someone else, these ideas here on 4chan that you call "chud" were founded here based on simple observations. You are a useless golem for pushing a destructive narrative and if it wasn't for the anons likely having autism, no one would reply to you at all.
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>>84015840
>ALL Native tribes and civilizations had conflicts with each other but that's not the argument.
It is my argument and discredits yours because they fought over territory. Rights to immigration.
>They were still the original inhabitants of the Americas not immigrants.
No they were not. The original natives were the originals, the ancestors of modern native americans butchered and displaced them.
> The whitey cope used to justify colonialism
I never once justified colonialism. My whole argument was that it is bad to immigrate and allow immigration. You are the one defending it, selectively, based on flawed information and racial bias.
>people going to war with neighbors over conflicts has a justifiable context as opposed to getting on ships and invading and killing total strangers and pretending to be more civil than them after.
Are you pretending to know the justifications for war in the prehistoric americas? The aztecs and mayans did the same, with the same excuse. They were civil, others were barbarians. The barbarians won against most pre-european american civilizations.
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>>84015869
you didn't address anything i said, do you have reading difficulties? still waiting on your source, bunkerboi
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>>84015876
>I'm 19 so I can say whatever dumb shit I want
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>>84015804
>So because the natives migrated all over the americas and displaced each other they also have no defense against immigration.

A bold assumption with no evidence, we do however have evidence europeans migrated all over the world and displaced others with rapes and genocides.
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>>84015866
So you admit American "natives" are in fact immigrants. Even more, illegal migrants, they don't have any legal claim on land they squated upon.
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>>84015852
>By the ancestors of modern native americans.
>Who were then subjected to the same by european immigrants
And every white person in this land is an immigrant still with no ancestral ties to it.
You are as much of an immigrant as a slave descended nigger
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>>84015857
Look it up.
>>84015866
>The fact remains that Europeans destroyed native civilizations and sovereign countries
As did the ancestors of modern native americans.
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>>84015886
you're so old man where's your family
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>>84015817
>cancer doesn't recognize it was cancer
Chanology was biggest cancer that started 4chan's downfall. It was just stage 2 at that point after all the raids it did like Tom Green (which brought me here) and Habbo. Let's not forget the Asia Ferguson raids. Then the IRL Pools Closed that generated that news story about it being racist. How about that Boston Fail Party?

At least it let off for a weekend during the DNS Weekend when the DNS server went down. All the cancer didn't know how to get on because they failed to realize that they could have just put in the IP address and still access the site like normal.

Also: please do pic.
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>>84015882
>It is my argument and discredits yours because they fought over territory. Rights to immigration.
Show any proof that they fought over territory BEFORE Europeans mass invader and displaced them pushing them all westward into other groups territory.
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>>84015841
>American "natives" immigrated itnto America from Asia
Is it still immigration if you move to a land devoid of any humans prior to your arrival?
If so, every human being outside of Africa is an immigrant
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>>84015382
Wait a minute, I thought we were all supposed to be dead from vaccines?
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>>84015895
>Look up this thing that I made up and can't post either
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>>84015839
And by extension, all white americans are also immigrants
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>>84015856
>only that there is no reason America is inherently a brown nation
It's the case tho , back in the days of hunter-gatherers, everyone moved around before settling down somewhere and building civilizations. The Incas, the Mayans, etc. are the very roots of America, and even some of the names of your current regions come from Native American culture. The country is inherently brown, and your mental gymnastics will never be able to contradict that, you moron.
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>>84015892
As are the native americans.
>>84015890
>A bold assumption with no evidence
Shall i link you to every instance of a pre-european american civilization that was destroyed by other native americans?

And i want to point out, your argument is the most racist. Not all native americans are one peoples. There are many, and there were many civilizations destroyed in the americas by the ancestors of native americans before colonization by europeans.
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This thread has devolved into mindless screeching. Jewbro out.
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>>84015899
>If so, every human being outside of Africa is an immigrant
*Ding dong!*
Also every human in the world has legal claim on African land, it's their land. African "colonialism" is oxymoron. How does this make you feel?
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>>84015821
I literally wrote a lengthy paragraph explaining in detail what real discrimination looks like and how you didn't face any of it, but you didn't read because your worldview is factproof.
Instead the closest example you could conjure up about being discriminated revealed your own personal addiction to interracial pornography
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>>84015923
Discrimination is a social construct.
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>>84015897
The creation of /pol/ and subsequent invasion of this site by election fags in 2016 was the cancer that killed it.
You are literally a metastatic cell that killed this site, and you don't know it.
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>>84015923
Discrimination is a social construct lole
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>>84015885
It's all in the files, bro. Are you struggling with reality? Typical chud.
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>>84015906
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peopling_of_the_Americas
>>84015908
>It's the case tho , back in the days of hunter-gatherers, everyone moved around before settling down somewhere and building civilizations. The Incas, the Mayans, etc. are the very roots of America, and even some of the names of your current regions come from Native American culture. The country is inherently brown, and your mental gymnastics will never be able to contradict that, you moron.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Maya_collapse
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>>84015908
No it isn't. This is your moral opinion, but the space you call "America" is an inanimate and arbitrarily defined area, it does not possess inherent qualities like ownership. There is no objective means by which the land becomes inherently brown, and this designation is purely the feelings in your little tummy that buzz when you think about it. I'm sorry, but you just aren't very bright.
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>>84015882
>No they were not. The original natives were the originals, the ancestors of modern native americans butchered and displaced them.

Some modern naitve americans are mixed with the europeans that butchered and displaced some of them if THATs what you mean.

Otherwise no. I also find it lazy when anytime people talk about natives, they speak as if the aztecs were all native americans. Yes we know aztecs were assholes and many other tribes didn't like them. You're making bold assumptions that it was common practice for north american natives to butcher and rape eachother with nothing to support that.

>I never once justified colonialism. My whole argument was that it is bad to immigrate and allow immigration. You are the one defending it, selectively, based on flawed information and racial bias.

Im actually not, my argument is all white people are immigrants. Natives are not. Technically, even White Europeans are immigrants in their homeland because Europe was inhabited by an older native group of people thousands of years ago before mixing occurred.

Modern day immigration into european nations is actually the most peaceful and civil form of immigration humanity has ever seen.

>Are you pretending to know the justifications for war in the prehistoric americas?

Nobody knows but it doesn't matter since war is war, we do know however europeans would wage war on strangers for no reason that was my point.
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>>84015876
At least I wasn't a lonely virgin seething when I was your age. Take the L, little guy. You've got some growing up to do.
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>>84015942
Shut up nigger, no one cares and you are brown like poop
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>>84015923
I listed a systemic displacement of white men throughout the USA and you hit me with "muh someone said something mean to a black man once"
Literally just go kys in Iran.
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>>84015663
I'm a 28 year old man, not a boy. You would do well to address your elders properly, young lady.
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>>84015941
>>84015908
>moved around
Displacement, migrations.
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>>84015923
Real discrimination is like black people being arrested for rape and murder.
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>>84015946
Out of "arguments"? So sad. No one could have predicted this.
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>>84015879
>Whataboutism
So you concede that you're an immigrant on stolen land like palestinians and jews deserve it more?
You'll be glad to hear who's joining USA against iran
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>>84015651
>LALALALALALALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU!!!
Hilarious
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>>84015930
>be here before Chanology cancer from the Girl Talk raids
>Chanology cancer, the biggest cancer before it was displaced by Cancer Gate and Election Cancerism that found the site because of Project Cancerology saying others are cancer and not it
You cannot make this shit up.
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>>84015772
Even "4chumbler" cancer was much worse than fucking chanology, I'm not even going to give you the courtesy of reading anything else you write because you clearly came here straight from reddit faggot
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>>84015953
Real discrimination is something you never faced. You are what happens when a young man is crippled by loneliness
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>>84015942
>This is your moral opinion
It is literally backed by historical facts, humans migrated everywhere before the emergence of agriculture. From the moment you build your culture and your borders, any outside intervention and colonization are by non-native peoples. But you cannot understand that simple fact.
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>>84015954
>shits in hand
>slaps you in the face
>also breaks your nose
>makes looneytoons sounds
>runs away
Sorry but I won in my imagination
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>>84015968
>is literally backed by historical facts, humans migrated everywhere before the emergence of agriculture
And they never stopped after emergence of agriculture
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>>84015941
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzick-1

This destroys your entire premise and thus arguments ad well.
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>>84015947
>systemic displacement of white men
That's not happening, though.
How are you being systematically displaced?
You failing to score doesn't count
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>>84015965
Your message will never resonate with young men because young men witnessed all the unfair advantages that blacks were afforded (at the expense of white men btw) and went on to squander. Other races have took full advantage of these same special privileges. Asians and Indians being prime examples. Increasingly Hispanics too. You need to change your messaging if you are going to gaslight young men into giving a fuck because "muh someone said something mean to a black man once" isn't going to cut it when the system is stacked against them.
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https://voca.ro/11KRi09HlYvg
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>>84015944
There is plenty to support that. Such as the collapse of every single pre-european civilization in the americas prior to europeans.
Are you really claiming that native americans did not engage in war and were some unique and perfect peoples respecting each others territories, treating all tribes as equal and never enslaving each other?
>Natives are not.
Yes they are.
>Technically, even White Europeans are immigrants in their homeland because Europe was inhabited by an older native group of people thousands of years ago before mixing occurred.
True, we agree. I'm glad you cede the point i have been making the entire time. Everyone is a migrant so the claim of originality is moot.
>Modern day immigration into european nations is actually the most peaceful and civil form of immigration humanity has ever seen.
No, it is not. You are american, you wouldn't know.
>Nobody knows but it doesn't matter since war is war,
If war is war and it doesn't matter why, then what is wrong with the way europeans conducted it vs the others.

I am not trying to justify any war, but you seem to be. Based on race no less.
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>>84015944
>Natives are not.
"Natives" came from Asia (and there from Africa). You argument is retarded.
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>>84015944
>Im actually not, my argument is all white people are immigrants. Natives are not. Technically, even White Europeans are immigrants in their homeland because Europe was inhabited by an older native group of people thousands of years ago before mixing occurred.
Immigrant is a socially constructed term. The modern day Europeans are descendants from two (actually more) supposed broad ethnic groups, one alleged to have "gotten there first" and the other to have gotten there later. There is another region which this occurred in, called "America." Your arguments are the kind of vapid and brainrotted shite one would expect from a perpetual doomscroller.
>>84015968
What is the historical fact? Where is an atom of ownership or "deserving"? Please locate it. Find the inherent particulate matter that says
>Brown Feet Stepped On This First, Therefore God Says Its For Browns.
This is only your moral opinion, that is it.
>>84015971
Undoubtedly.
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>>84016001
Erherm see this post poopyhead >>84015990
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>>84015983
Can you explain how.
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>>84015382
No Iranian ever called me goy.

Furthermore Israel must be destroyed.
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>>84015663
Would literally slap the fuck out of a broad if her stupid ass tried to white feather me over some israeli warhawk propaganda shit.
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America seems to be in a weird spot, every group feels wronged and nationalism is dead, zero unity. It really does seem like China is the future.
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>>84015990
>>84016003
That's a significant mental breakdown or a new form of comedy?
Oh and before the other anon screeches at this:
>Immigrant is a socially constructed term.
This is not to say that it's socially constructed therefore there are no immigrants, but that the invalidation of Europeans on basis of the social construct is meaningless especially where is likewise applies to so many other groups. These are only morally legitimating terms, for instance when this anon >>84015415 says "foreigners," he does not mean that there is an objective quality whereby any particular person deserves a land or not.
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>>84015382
I'm ready to kill Americans (or at least their rulers), does that count?
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>>84015881
>these ideas here on 4chan that you call "chud" were founded here
You think 4chan founded racism, white supremacy and misogyny?
These ideas are thousands of years old. This place just became a recycling bin for all the hate that goes on twitter, and it's not a coincidence that even this very thread is reposting a Twitter screenshot
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>>84016023
>>84016030
https://voca.ro/185FYQLgNjUy
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>>84015978
>And they never stopped after emergence of agriculture
>>84016001
You're missing my point, which is that the first native populations were brown. Even if, in some hypothetical future, Indians were to overpopulate Japan, the fact remains that history books will still record that the Japanese, the Ainu, and the native peoples of those lands were the original inhabitants
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>>84016043
>You're missing my point, which is that the first native populations were brown. Even if, in some hypothetical future, Indians were to overpopulate Japan, the fact remains that history books will still record that the Japanese, the Ainu, and the native peoples of those lands were the original inhabitants
Your point has literally nothing to do with the argument. This does not legitimate any particular group except with respect to the little buzzing that happens in your tummy when you think about it. As I said, there is no objective quality whereby one group deserves land over another.
>>84016038
You do the voice so fucking well holy shit based
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>>84015986
This post is the quintessential right wing ideology in a nutshell. You're not interested by facts, only by propaganda.
You're displeased with the implication that white people don't suffer discrimination and other races do, but not because it isn't factual, but simply because it doesn't serve your narrative, it doesn't rally your feelings, it doesn't appeal to your victimhood.
Your world view is based on vibes, not evidence. So you ask me to change the messaging in a way that's more propagandistic, that appeals to the feelings of white men, that validates their struggle so I could win their support, regardless of what the facts are.
You want to feel vindicated against minorities that you no longer have power over, and you will run with any ideology that affirms your feelings, no matter how much lies and deceit you have to swallow
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To clarify the retarded logic going on incase anyone doesn't feel like reading.
>Immigration good
>First come first own
>Colonialism (immigration) bad
>White people go back
>But europeans in europe also immigrants
>Colonizing europe with immigrants good
The end argument is that those of european descent shouldn't exist anywhere and everything we are guilty of in the past is either a virtue or inescapable fact if done by non-europeans.
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>>84016038
what an adult virgin sounds like
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>>84015994
>Are you really claiming that native americans did not engage in war and were some unique
I literally stated some of them did

>No, it is not. You are american, you wouldn't know.

Compared to european migration or other migrations in the past it is.

>Everyone is a migrant so the claim of originality is moot.
They aren't tho. Natives were the first to Americas. Europeans are mixed with like 3 different races from 3 different main major regions with only 1 being the original inhabitant that no longer exist.

theres a difference you clearly are refusing to acknowledge between immigrants and native inhabitants.

>then what is wrong with the way europeans conducted it vs the others.

I didn't justify war, I said i couldn't explain why they did it only that regardless it was war. Europeans didn't just carry out war but enslaved and oppressed populations for centuries after the fact, basically the difference between hunting a prey vs fucking up an entire ecosystem for many years to come.
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>>84016061
>You want to feel vindicated against minorities that you no longer have power over
This line really spells out your entire ideology.
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>>84016052
It doesn't make sense to you because you're a disingenuous idiot who isn't engaged in an honest debate. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink
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>>84016061
https://voca.ro/1nbNBK3Pp75Y
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>>84016064
If everyone outside of Africa is an immigrant then suddenly no one is an immigrant at all
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>>84016064
Most of them wouldn't even be here if not for Europeans. They would have died from starvation or infection. Its unfortunate that the white man's technology has propagated so many dysgenic bloodlines.
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>>84016071
>no longer have power over
When did women, blacks and queers had power over white men?
Seems like you lost the oppressor spot, and for the oppressor, equality feels like a loss.
Your worldview is based on feelings, not facts
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>>84016070
>I literally stated some of them did
So why is it a unique evil when europeans do it too?
>Compared to european migration or other migrations in the past it is.
False, there are more slaves now than any point in colonial history.
>Natives were the first to Americas.
Already proved this wrong, insistence will not alter the truth.
>Europeans are mixed with like 3 different races from 3 different main major regions with only 1 being the original inhabitant that no longer exist.
So they have no claim to europe despite being genetically descended from the original inhabitants, like the native american justification you are using?
>theres a difference you clearly are refusing to acknowledge between immigrants and native inhabitants.
You are the one creating a false distinction.
>Europeans didn't just carry out war but enslaved and oppressed populations for centuries after the fact,
This is true of native americans too. Just the scale is different.
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>>84015986
>will never resonate with young men
With some young white men, you mean. The ones who will base their worldview around hatred for target groups. Only hateful ideologies will resonate with you.
You're a lost cause. Too much internet, too much loneliness. Only a completely different life could have saved you.
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>>84016070
>and native inhabitants.
There were no "native inhabitants" of America. That term was used by European travelers from 16th century who discovered America for themselves. These travelers didn't know American inhabitants came from Asia and wrongfully called them "natives". And you are just grandfathering this illiterate Europe centric term.
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>>84016072
You are telling me that there is an inherent quality of ownership to rocks and dirt. No, there isn't. That's your tummy buzzing very much, and it makes you very happy, but it's not an argument.
>>84016087
I wasn't involved in this argument, but:
>Your worldview is based on feelings, not facts
Your worldview is equally based on feelings, not facts, and your ChatGPT makes several telltale mistakes here: >>84016061
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>>84016087
So circling back to everything I said previously, everything I listed here is happening, >>84015761
, it's just "equality"
Thank you for finally not speaking out of the side of your neck like a spineless bitch, also you are a cuck as I said from the very beginning. Young white men will have to decide if they are okay being second place cucks in the nation their ancestors built for them. I'm not. Therefore I would never fight for this gay country.
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>>84016096
You words are empty, actions are real.
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>>84015947
>>84015985
So you just can't give any examples of how you, a white man, are being systematically replaced?
Is failure to score systematic replacement?
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>>84016110
Consult US law codes.
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>>84016107
Good thing you'll never act on your retarded lonely teenager views.
You will reach a point in your life where you will look back to your current self with shame and regret
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>>84016093
>Already proved this wrong, insistence will not alter the truth
When the cope is too strong
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>>84016115
What's the law that systematically replaces white men?
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>>84016110
Yeah sure, when you flood a country with foreign people and give them spots at top universities over the men of the country, this is a form of displacement. They shouldn't be here. And you are a cuck ass white man if you go die on the battlefield to uphold such a system, a system where your sons are being driven out of the top institutions in your own lands.
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>>84016116
Well good thing you are wrong about everything (on purpose and because of your stupidity) so looks like I don't need to fear that.
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>>84016100
I know you're a teenager because you see a paragraph with more than 5 lines and automatically assumes it's LLM.
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>>84016123
I named it.
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>>84016132
So wrong that you have no arguments to substantiate your claims of victimhood and discrimination?
Your worldview is completely immune to facts, it's based on your feelings and you are thoroughly mistaken at every affirmation
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https://voca.ro/1llNZ09kKp9u
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>>84016122
Headline reveals nothing. Consult the wiki earlier linked.
There were multiple migrations, the original inhabitants are mostly gone so the majority of native americans are still immigrants by your "originality' claim.
Which is a silly claim.
And by these standards, europeans are still natives in europe and so immigration into europe by others is bad.

For someone so passionate about using native americans as a tool to push your agenda you know nothing about their history.
Show some respect and stop being racist.
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>>84016137
Name it once more for the people in the back.
Or perish as the disingenuous chud arguing in bad faith that you truly are
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>>84016148
Consult my post above. Not gonna repeat.
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>>84016146
>so the majority of native americans are still immigrants
And so are you
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>>84016126
I mean imagine for a second, you help build this country, you pay your taxes, those taxes go on to fund the top universities in the US, your son grows up, his spot is given away to some foreign man's son that never contributed anything to this country, and because this is a top institution, that kid will go on to rule over your son, political or cooperate. This is cuckoldry, people.
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>>84016154
Yes
So the fact of being an immigrant does not excuse further immigration as you already pointed out its evils yourself, if in a biased manner.
The conclusion, no immigration is good.
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>>84016126
>when you flood a country with foreign people and give them spots at top universities over the men of the country, this is a form of displacement
But the top universities are still more than 50% white men? Is this "replacement" or is it sharing? Are you being discriminated against in your personal life? Of course you aren't, you couldn't name a single instance of it happening. But any discriminated individual has a whole lifetime of anecdotes to share.
For the oppressor, equality feels like a loss
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>>84016166
>Is this "replacement" or is it sharing?
Who says we have to "share" anything with you? Get the fuck on.
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>>84016093
>So why is it a unique evil when europeans do it too?
Because they can't claim any form of self defense or justifications. Tribes go to war with eachother over conflicts even if it's wrong, things happen. Colonialism for the most part was purely for greed and war mongering purposes and again, towards a foreign people who had done nothing to Europeans. Costing the lives of people who were involved in war as well as the ones who weren't.

The people who helped the spanish against the aztecs ALSO were enslaved and killed after.


>Already proved this wrong, insistence will not alter the truth.

No you didn't. Who was in north America first?

>So they have no claim to europe despite being genetically descended from the original inhabitants, like the native american justification you are using?

Never said they have no claim only that they're technically immigrants due to being mixed with multiple distant groups from various large wave scale migrations. Natives americans are direct descendants of the original settlers. Main difference being their "race" still exist while the original european hunter gatherer doesn't.

>>84016099
Semantics. By native we obviously mean first people to step foot in north america
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>>84016110
Systemic replacement is occurring and by the same or similar metrics as that of Palestinians beginning in the early 20th century with mass migration of European Jews to Mandatory Palestine. This is, in fact, when most historians mark the beginning of the systemic displacement of Palestinians, even if at the time there was no conscious or concerted effort to displace the Palestinian people until decades later.

This is because displacement and replacement do not require a conscious effort or secretive plan drawn up by mustachioed villains. The same metrics used to measure the continued displacement of Palestinians can be used to measure that of indigenous Europeans in Europe, pic related. The beginning of the replacement of Palestinians in their indigenous homeland began through the structural biases that allowed illegal and legal Jewish immigration into the land, and whether there was a concerted effort to literally exterminate, genocide, or replace Palestinians does not ultimately matter; these ideas are ultimately socially constructed. We are only examining the structure itself and the result of that structure, and it is extremely similar, and with extremely similar demographic changes, to that of Palestine beginning in the early 20th century.

Anon's case is quite simple; it is functionally a replacement. An ethnic group is being replaced as a percentage of the population, and this is factually correct. It doesn't matter if Whites in Europe increase to a population of a billion, if their representation within the society decline to 40% for example. This is simply a replacement of one group's majority with another. It is factually correct regardless of any intentionality behind policy.
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>>84016166
So you are just admitting that this is displacement, right? But you are dressing it up as "sharing" lmfao

BRO, lefties are such fucking liars. Everything they do and say is a lie.
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>>84016153
Affirmative action doesn't displace you anymore than nepotism does. You are still free to live and work in this country as a full citizen like anyone else, hardly a second class citizen or a victim of systemic oppression.
You feel like that's a downgrade because you wanted to be on top of other races, not standing on equal ground
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>>84016166
https://voca.ro/1dO5kUFiULBs
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>>84016170
I say it. Do you think more people agree with me or with you?
So you're not really being displaced or being put in an inferior position compared to others.
You are literally just seething about losing the oppressor's high ground
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>>84016184
White men are going to share their way right out of everything. That's the direction this nation has been going for 70 years now. But time to go die on the battlefield.
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>>84016133
No, it's because it is written by ChatGPT and says nothing besides
>my view fact, your view feefees propaganda.
His argument does in fact include factual statements, and yours does include feelings. ChatGPT will spit out aphorisms like
>Your world view is based on vibes, not evidence
that mean nothing but make the user (you) feel good. The entirety of your post lacks substance and bares all the hallmarks of AI written garbage. But if you want to reformulate it as an actual argument, you can try. You have received already actual arguments, now it is your turn to provide one instead of some petty polemic against a political group that hurt you.
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>>84016187
Didn't listen, but have a (you) Virgin loser
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>>84016192
I think they will start to agree with me as they increasingly look around and realize they have nothing and everyone that does have something, looks nothing like them. I know this because that is the flow of history. At the end of the day, white men will get up and fuck you up or they will go extinct. Either way, I'm right and you are wrong.
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>>84016178
>>84016110
Forgot the image. In other words, we are only measuring the effect of policy by the real world results, rather than "fairness" or "justice." Whites are simply decreasing a proportion of the population. It's a simple factual statement.
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>>84016146
>Headline reveals nothing. Consult the wiki earlier linked
Yah, of course, I'm going to consult a wiki that can be modified at any time by users and managed by magatards lol. That doesn't mean anything to you because you're an illiterate who doesn't know that Native Americans crossed the Bering Strait before spreading across America, and indeed, the evidence for the founding population is confirmed by genetic studies. I have no agenda other than to restore the truth. Your entire political system, whether left or right, is colonialist
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>>84016200
Uh oh, babyrage
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>>84016184
It's not displacement, it's equality.
For the slave owners, abolition felt like a huge loss. Were they being discriminated for being slave owners too? Or they were actually facing justice for the first time?
Are you really being displaced, or just angry you can't step down on others like before?
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>>84016175
>Because they can't claim any form of self defense or justifications. Tribes go to war with eachother over conflicts even if it's wrong, things happen.
SO there is no justification in either case, but you handwave native wars as "things happen"
The same things happen. You are just racist.

>No you didn't. Who was in north America first?
Should have read the wiki...
Paleo-indians, followed by na-dene. Both a combination of North Eastern Eurasians and Ancient East Eurasians who migrated and displaced each other frequently until the bridge opened to cross into the americas.

>Never said they have no claim only that they're technically immigrants due to being mixed with multiple distant groups from various large wave scale migrations. Natives americans are direct descendants of the original settlers.
You are wrong. Both are intermixed with multiple large scale migrations. See above.

>Main difference being their "race" still exist while the original european hunter gatherer doesn't.
Untrue. Paleo-indians =/= native americans. And if so then ancient europeans = modern europeans.

>By native we obviously mean first people to step foot in north america
Not every "native american" can claim ancestry to this first group. The ones who don't must be immigrants.

It is funny to see you cede points to me, but continue arguing them with another anon.
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>>84016214
>It's not displacement, it's equality.
So when does equality end? When whites have nothing and all the 3rd world people are within the US and have everything? I'm just wondering how you imagine it in your cucked out little brain.
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>>84016214
>It's not displacement, it's equality.
This is a statement with no substance.
>For the slave owners, abolition felt like a huge loss. Were they being discriminated for being slave owners too? Or they were actually facing justice for the first time?
This is a moral position.
>Are you really being displaced, or just angry you can't step down on others like before?
This has no substance.

You need to remember to have an argument.
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>>84016215
https://voca.ro/1dfs14UL4klH
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>>84016209
>Yah, of course, I'm going to consult a wiki that can be modified at any time by users and managed by magatards lol.
Yet you expect me to trust the headline of an article that can be written by anyone?
>That doesn't mean anything to you because you're an illiterate who doesn't know that Native Americans crossed the Bering Strait before spreading across America
Incorrect. Paleo-indians crossed the bering straight, and the na-dene peoples, and the inuit and related arctic peoples. It is extremely racist to assume all of these peoples are the same and extremely naive to assume this was peaceful and remained peaceful until the arrival of europeans.
The history you are describing is no less than a fictitious eden.
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>>84016178
America has a vast white majority and immigration isn't getting that undone any time soon.
It's more like you are catastrophizing and being alarmist over "white replacement" due to your own hurt feelings of having to live amongst other races, not actual facts.
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>>84015382
I am ineligible for military service due to a medical condition, but anyway I don't care for American people. Aside from my own family, I'd kill an American to save an Iranian.
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>>84016243
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>>84016227
You are being "displaced" and "discriminated" against as much as slave owners were by abolition.
Rather, you are losing your whip, and you don't like it. It's a purely emotional perspective, not at all based on the reality that you aren't a second class citizen in any way
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>>84016251
https://voca.ro/1914Li3GuQt5
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>>84016185
So if I introduce for you personal tax 50% on your income you can't call yourself discriminated. You are still free to live and work. Checkmate tranny.
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>>84015965
Whites are literally racially discriminated in college institutions, job applications, government services, and in the military. Also, I have a girlfriend. Please jump off a bridge, tranny.
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>>84016225
>when does equality end?
When you stop being racist.
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>>84016270
>When you stop being racist.
What does that look like? Accepting the flood of 3rd world immigration with open arms?
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>>84016237
>America has a vast white majority and immigration isn't getting that undone any time soon.
>It's more like you are catastrophizing and being alarmist over "white replacement" due to your own hurt feelings of having to live amongst other races, not actual facts.
>"It's more like"
Can you stick to actual arguments instead of pointing a finger and whining? I am telling you something that is strictly an objective fact. The territories we describe as being under the jurisdiction of the U.S.A. and "Europe" are becoming less white a percentage of the population. This is a factual statement. This factual statement can be accurately described as "replacement" in the same way that the population of Palestinians objectively increased and continued increasing despite the widely recognized replacement of their population.

You keep whining about a lack of "facts" but you are offer none.
>>84016251
>You are being "displaced" and "discriminated" against as much as slave owners were by abolition.
>Rather, you are losing your whip, and you don't like it. It's a purely emotional perspective, not at all based on the reality that you aren't a second class citizen in any way
This is not an argument. I am providing a factual statement. Desperately crying about slaves and slave owners is your own emotionality and projection.

You still aren't very bright. It's sad.
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>>84016274
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>>84016233
>Paleo-indians crossed the bering straight, and the na-dene peoples, and the inuit and related arctic peoples
Exactly lol and these three migrations account for the ancestry of all Native American populations , no europeans. If you had read the paper, you would have avoided giving another argument that confirms my point. And just to clarify, it's Bering Strait, not Straight...
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>>84016207
>Whites are simply decreasing a proportion of the population
Are their numbers decreasing because they are being targeted, persecuted, oppressed or genocided?
Or simply because they don't breed as much as other groups?
Because that's the difference between real oppression and fake propagandistic white nationalist sentiment disguised as oppression.
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>>84016274
White people existing is racism. Understand, you have to be replaced. You have to accept the endless supply of immigrants. You have to accept the shrinking representation everywhere, until the racism is finally over, meaning white people no longer exist. You are indeed being conquered if you haven't caught on. Go fight in Iran tho
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>>84016204
>they will start to agree with me
Actually thanks to trump's administration, the popularity of republicans is in free fall and they'll have a hard time electing other candidates on all fronts for the next ten years.
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>>84016175
>Semantics
Exactly. Meaning of words.
"Natives" is only relevant term in context of European 16th travelers and their geographic and historical illiteracy. FFS Columbus called them Indians and thought he arrived into India.
Today we know that it is not and India, it's is different continent and it's inhabitants came form Asia.
Its funny how do you grandfather European centric illiterate term of group that you perceive as negative (colonialism). Don't you have own language?
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>>84016299
Keep dreaming. The person that comes after Trump is even more hardcore because Trump failed to deliver.
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>>84016204
>they have nothing
Except that they do have something, and it's an integral part of your propaganda that you paint this deceitful picture of a unreal world where whites are somehow oppressed although they're richer and more numerous than all other groups
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>>84016305
>although they're richer and more numerous than all other groups
They are not. I mean your just straight up lying now. lol
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>>84016286
>Exactly lol and these three migrations account for the ancestry of all Native American populations
Paleo-indians were the first, so na-dene and those descended from them are immigrants.

You haven't responded to my point about european migration. Do you think that it is good or not that europe allows immigrants despite being native european by your genetic standards?
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>>84016299
Problem with Republican's they don't have charismatic replacement for Trump, pudgy Vance is a joke.
Though if Democrats will nominate bitch boss again, Republicans would elect anyone.
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>>84016274
It looks like something that will never happen because people like you, racist and conservative, will always exist.
The government will always have to balance the struggle between people like you wanting to take over power, and the minorities that would suffer from that
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>>84016287
>Are their numbers decreasing because they are being targeted, persecuted, oppressed or genocided?
I didn't say any of that. Where here did I say whites were being targeted, persecuted, oppressed, or genocided? Think long and hard. Go ahead, search. Here? >>84016178
>whether there was a concerted effort to literally exterminate, genocide, or replace Palestinians does not ultimately matter; these ideas are ultimately socially constructed. We are only examining the structure itself and the result of that structure, and it is extremely similar, and with extremely similar demographic changes, to that of Palestine beginning in the early 20th century.
An examination strictly of the period between 1922 and 1945. You are amusing me but you're still not very bright. Your mind just can't keep up.
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>>84016304
His approval rates have been steadily declining and he wouldn't win the election today, but I know that your whole ideology is one's struggle with reality so facts are scary for you
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I love these threads. Did you really get convinced to go defend the USA in this thread? lmfao. Its over for this faggot nigger country and God am I here for it.
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>>84016317
>pudgy Vance is a joke
This is self-soothing behavior.
>>84016318
Why do you talk like a fucking rape victim? Please don't tell me a grown man is behind this post.
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>>84016323
I didn't say you said that, that's why I asked you what was going on. Is it really a systematic replacement driven by immigration, or just lower than replacement birth rates? Because there lies the difference between a real campaign of oppression and displacement, and just a natural tendency of populations in 1st world countries.
Your whole point is extremely alarmist and relies on exaggerating the current "risk" white people are facing of being replaced.
If anything, things are moving towards an equilibrium where white people will just become another group in a diverse country.
For the oppressor, this feels like a loss just like abolition was a loss for slave owners. You don't want to be on equal grounds. You want superiority.
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>>84016315
>Paleo-indians were the first, so na-dene and those descended from them are immigrants.
No, because these different populations were indigenous to different regions in America, genius. The Paleo-Indians were mainly in the south, the Na-Dene in Alaska, and the Inuit in Greenland and Canada.

I'm not the anon you're talking about btw
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>>84016215
>Paleo-indians, followed by na-dene. Both a combination of North Eastern Eurasians and Ancient East Eurasians who migrated and displaced each other frequently until the bridge opened to cross into the americas.

Sooo as i specified earlier they migrated to separate regions in the americas. Na-denes mostly inhabited Canada and Alaska. And some were already mixed with eachother upon arriving. your argument speaks as if na-denes eventually migrated and displaced aztecs or went further south, i'm sure maybe some tribes displaced some locals somewhere in canada at some point in those 4,500 years before europeans arrived but so? They were na-denes "displacing" orher na-denes, not really immigration if it's already land occupied by your own people.

They were the first inhabitants of their lands. You're being purposely obtuse.

>The same things happen. You are just racist.

Nope, we don't have enough evidence for why they went to war all the time but we know it most likely was because of conflict with each other. We know europeans actually would oppress some people for their races. War is wrong but sometimes people have to defend themselves and fight back. We know for a fact europeans have no excuse to claim self defense and were the aggressor in every conflict they had with native peoples due to the fact they were invading. Thats the core difference.
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>>84016340
Why do you talk like an adult who has never experienced intimacy or friendship?
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>>84016340
>This is self-soothing behavior
It's the fact. Elections are in large part is looks and charisma contest. Vance is a failure here.
But it would be hilarious if Democrats will lose to their foids nagging again. Karma.
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>>84016353
>muh pussy
The words of a man with no moral compass. Pussy is your guiding light.
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>>84016348
>No, because these different populations were indigenous to different regions in America, genius.
Ah so now it matters where in america they are. So if there was a region unpopulated and europeans moved there then they become natives and it's nothing to do with first foot down?
Your goalposts are as transient as your wit.
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>>84016317
>no replacement for the wannabe dictator
As planned all along. Autocracies relies on concentrated power, usually concentrated in just one person.
All it takes is democrats nominating a man, and they will win. It doesn't even have to be a white man. Any man will do.
After trump's fiasco of an administration, no other republican will become president for a decade at least
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>>84016360
Loneliness and celibacy made you what you are now.
Your worldview is literally a result of being isolated and deprived of affection. All it would take was a friend in highschool and you would be a completely different human being
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>>84016373
Dictator doesn't need replacement.
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>>84016361
>So if there was a region unpopulated and europeans moved there then they become natives and it's nothing to do with first foot down?
My argument has always been the first one having settled in a region , migration has nothing to do with that. At this point, you're just creating straw men because you don't know what else to say
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>>84016373
>After trump's fiasco of an administration, no other republican will become president for a decade at least
You people said this after Trump "lost" the second election and then he went on to win again. It shattered your entire conception of reality. I watched it take place. You people just go around lying to yourselves, about everything. You are the biggest copers out of all the political retards I come across. This nation voted for Trump on the premise of mass deportations too. They voted for him specifically to do the thing you believe is the ultimate evil. More than half of the country voted for him on this alone. I remember you people running articles saying this image spelled the doom of Trump. That America would never get onboard with such racism. Then he got elected. You are copers.
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>>84015415
>Why the fuck would I ever fight for this country? lmfao
to establish a government and use it to tax its citizens?
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>>84016311
White people are literally the numerical majority in america and they have the highest paying positions, most CEOs, most government officials and positions of power, and a higher income per Capita than other races.
Your whole ideology is one continuous struggle with reality and facts.
Whites are not oppressed by any metric
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>>84016344
>I didn't say you said that, that's why I asked you what was going on.
Then your point was completely irrelevant, as is the rest of this insubstantial tripe. All you are doing is saying
>That is "alarmist"
Whether something is alarmist or not is subjective and based on legitimizing or delegitimizing discourse. Climate alarmism, for instance; the climate may or may not be changing (it is, of course), but whether it is alarmist to be concerned about it is a subjective determination based on legitimizing or delegitimizing discourse around climate change. Similarly, the white population may or may not be changing (it is, of course), but whether concern about it is alarmist or not is likewise based on what sort of moral position you hold.

You still have no argument. These are also non-arguments, and are quite literally solely moral positions or assessments:
>If anything, things are moving towards an equilibrium where white people will just become another group in a diverse country.
>For the oppressor, this feels like a loss just like abolition was a loss for slave owners. You don't want to be on equal grounds. You want superiority.
You should have a brain (supposedly) now use it. You have gone on this entire thread using GPT-phorism like
>it's not facts, it's vibes.
Now think for yourself, or beg ChatGPT for a real argument.
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>>84016394
>settled
>migrated
Yeah
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>>84016350
>i'm sure maybe some tribes displaced
So they were immigrants. "Na-dene" is a modern and genetic classification. They were separate tribes warring with and displacing each other based on perceived race and superiority, as europeans then did to them.
>we don't have enough evidence for why they went to war all the time but we know it most likely was because of conflict with each other.
"They fought war because they fought war"
The most retarded statement. They are no more just than europeans for their wars. That is my claim. And they would go on to enslave and cannibalize each other.
>e know for a fact europeans have no excuse to claim self defense and were the aggressor in every conflict they had with native peoples
So all native wars fought in self defense mutually? How does that work. Could it be that they both thought they had claim to a territory the other possessed?

Your attempts to handwave and moralize thousands of years of butchery, while condemning centuries of it, based on race and for the sole purpose to justify punishment on the descendants is inherently amoral and arbitrary.
There is no logic, there is nothing but a racial agenda using race classifications you don't agree with to push agenda.
You are a racist. For using one race, and excusing their behavior, to win points over another race.
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>>84016401
If you can't see the difference between the two, you're brain dead
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>>84016394
So there must be europeans native to the americas by this logic. And all europeans are native to europe.
And all arabs, indians, asians, and other races are invaders to europe and thus as evil as the colonialists.
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>>84016350
how have you been getting raped this entire thread without a single W
like goddamn
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>>84016264
>Whites are literally racially discriminated in college institutions
Sharing scholarships with other races isn't discrimination. DEI is a response to a tradition of discrimination against minorities and even after that, white people still dominate universities
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Antarctica is european clay first settled, native peoples
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>>84016400
>the white population may or may not be changing (it is, of course),
The difference is how are they changing
Are they changing because of a systematic campaign of oppression that is displacing and genociding white people?
Or are they simply breeding fewer babies on their own volition?
One is oppression,the other is free will being exercised
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>>84015580
you cant steal something that everyone can rightfully own
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>>84016415
>DEI is a response to a tradition of discrimination against minorities
I'm asking everyone to stop arguing with this deceitful retard. All he does is lie, get caught in lies, dress up his lies in nice bow ties "muh sharing" "muh discrimination to fix historical injustice"
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>>84016415
DEI isn't about sharing but about preferential treatment.
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>>84016395
He won with the help of 10 million immigrant voters that could have tipped the scale of the election, and he lied to them about what was gonna happen next.
Thanks to his administration, no immigrant will vote red again for quite a while.
His approval rates speak for themselves
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I want white men to get together and steal the wealth from the immigrants squatting in his lands. Iranians have nothing to give us. Btw, it isn't really stealing, it never belonged to them to begin with.
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>>84016440
>Thanks to his administration, no illegal immigrant would vote again
Fixed
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>>84016433
People are literally exposing your deceit with facts time after time, and you keep coming back with more lies. Stop projecting. Whites are still a majority and are richer than other races in america. You said that was a lie too, remember?
Your whole thing is being immune to facts.
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>>84016440
>and he lied to them about what was gonna happen next.
He didn't. Mass deportation was always the promise. If anything, he lied about the mass deportations because they still haven't happened. Keep coping tho, you political retard, you fucking brainless cult following queerbait.
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>>84016441
>Iranians have nothing to give us.
Political support.
Oil.
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>>84016434
White people had preferential treatment before DEI, and DEI tried to balance that.
It's only a portion of scholarships anyway. Even after DEI most university students are still white
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>>84016426
>The difference is how are they changing
No, this difference is socially constructed and arbitrary.
>Are they changing because of a systematic campaign of oppression that is displacing and genociding white people?
>Or are they simply breeding fewer babies on their own volition?
>One is oppression,the other is free will being exercised
You are repeating ChatGPT-aphorisms that have no substance. It does not matter why the population is changing or if there is any intentionality to it. Your only point is a moral statement:
>One is oppression,the other is free will being exercised
I'm sorry, but repeating the same desperate plea over and over again doesn't make it a fact.
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>>84016410
No, just that these immigrants are not native Europeans. Who currently benefits from resources in Venezuela, Africa, etc.? That's what we call colonization. These third world immigrants who come to Europe are mainly exploited , low iq and contribute to lowering wages, which benefits multinational corporations
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>>84016450
>Political support.
>Oil
Neither of which will benefit the common white man. There shitskins rolling around your country with more than you. How does that make you feel?
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>>84016444
And their associates, their families and their descendents, all legal citizens, will have one more reason to vote blue next election.
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>>84015431
>better bomb a middle eastern shithole again
thanks us government, very cool
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>>84016449
He promised he would only deport the "criminals" but let hard working law abiding immigrants stay.
Now even legal immigrants, fully regularized, are being deported.
The republican party just lost a few million votes that they won't get back in a decade
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>>84016433
It's typical for a right winger to make a confession disguised as accusation.
You literally accuse others of what you're guilty of. Rather like the entire qanon fiasco ignoring trump's role in the pedophile Epstein scandal
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>>84016468
>He promised he would only deport the "criminals"
Everyone who crossed the border illegally is a criminal, faggot. This is something I've heard the right wing say for FUCKING DECADES NOW, ALL OVER FOX NEWS
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>>84016455
>No, just that these immigrants are not native Europeans.
So invaders by your own standards. Evil colonizers who chant in the streets about replacing the natives and genociding them. Who think they are superior and all others less than human. Who have raped, displaced, cannibalized and disenfranchised the native peoples.
>These third world immigrants who come to Europe are mainly exploited
>exploiting
ftfy
>low iq
Very racist. The most racist. But i agree they are useless, which is why they are exploiting our trust based systems.
>which benefits multinational corporations
Agreed.
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>>84016454
>this difference is socially constructed and arbitrary
It isn't. A population declining because of genocide and persecution is completely different from a population declining just because they're not breeding above replacement level.
You are conflating a voluntary choice of white families with a systematic campaign against white people. That's what's so disingenuous and insincere about your point.
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>>84016475
There are thousands of legal immigrants who were fully regularized being deported right now.
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>>84016415
>Sharing scholarships with other races isn't discrimination.
Scholarships are zero sum in that both white and black students are competing for the same thing, and it's not only scholarships that are discriminatory.
>DEI is a response to a tradition of discrimination against minorities and even after that
Didn't you just tell me that Whites have never experienced discrimination? Your new position is "Well, yeah, we're discriminating against you but it's good actually."
>white people still dominate universities
They would more if it weren't for anti-white racial discrimination.
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I'm just asking you to imagine it. Instead of arguing your case. What if white men just went back to the old way of doing things.
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>>84016482
Sorry, zogbot, but your propaganda that I see every day in the media isn't working. Try again with someone else
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I'm honestly so sick of seeing white men argue with their invaders. Its the most disheartening shit I see actually. There is no political solution. They want your shit. This has been the case for all of human history. Wake up. You are not special. Nothing has changed. They are coming for your shit and so far, they have been successful at taking your shit.
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>>84016486
>A population declining because of genocide and persecution is completely different from a population declining just because they're not breeding above replacement level.

Funny you say that. Injuns were replaced primarily because Whites had a higher birthrate. Violence contributed close to none of the decline. Most of the decline was down to disease, which they mostly recovered from.
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>>84016454
>does not matter why the population is changing or if there is any intentionality to it.
It changes everything. If white people were changing because of an active campaign against their wellbeing, that can be fought against.
If white people are simply opting out of the breeding ground on their own volition, there's nothing you can do about it.
It's the difference between oppression and natural population tendencies.
>A moral statement
You are so hypocritical. You think that your point against "white displacement" isn't a moral one, based on your own feelings?
You are immune to facts. Whites aren't being oppressed in anyway you can pinpoint without lies or deceit
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>>84016486
>You are conflating a voluntary choice of white families with a systematic campaign against white people.
You need to stay on track. Again, where did I ever say this? You are so pathetically brainfried it is unreal. Re-read here: >>84016178
As a simple example, you say
>The difference is how are they changing
When it comes to the difference between climate change and the replacement of the White population. Steelmanning your position, assuming that there is absolutely no intent to replace the White population, assuming "it's equality," and assuming
>"If anything, things are moving towards an equilibrium where white people will just become another group in a diverse country."
In other words, assuming the best of all possible worlds for you, it does not matter what the reason for the climate change is; it does not matter if there are people intentionally changing the climate. Your argument was
>The difference is how are they changing
because
>One is oppression,the other is free will being exercised
Then does this make concern over climate change "alarmist" simply because climate change is "free will" being exercised? Surely no one is intentionally trying to destroy the habitable environment?

This is why your petty, desperate moral pleas don't work. Your argument literally wasn't facts, it was your little tummy buzzing about words that make your tummy hurt and words that make your tummy warm. It's still amusing, but it's still not an argument.
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>>84016515
>zogbot
Ad hominem, refute me or cede.
>propaganda that I see every day in the media
"Your media is propaganda"
"My article is truth"
You're just a retarded racist nazi.
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>>84016502
You mean starting an erratic war that kills more white people than any other war in history and then losing miserably, making white pride taboo for a 100 years?
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>>84016453
So like I said DEI is about preferential treatment.
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>>84016527
Read this, because your position was predicted before you even posted it: >>84016529
>You are so hypocritical.
Actually no, I did not make a moral statement anywhere. Go and find one. Try as hard as you can. This is my earlier post in response to someone else (or you) saying this: >>84015856
>Same can be applied to any "Anti-white" arguments you have then. No one should care about "white genocide" (which is not real by the way) or whatever and in fact its a good thing and we should cheer it on.
I said:
>Yes, all true.
>If you like.
Quit inventing strawmen or having your ChatGPT hallucinate.
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>>84016518
You are severely downplaying the violence inflicted on native Americans. The Portuguese colonization alone killed more than 2 millions.
>Bringing diseases that decimate the native population doesn't count
You just described the difference between a systematic campaign of oppression and genocide (colonization) and whatever is happening to white people in america today
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>>84016462
>illegal immigrants should vote
Excuse me?
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>>84016545
DEI is about bringing justice to a system plagued by the preferential treatment of white people
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>>84016552
They shouldve just re-immigrated back to Asia.
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>>84016557
>bringing justice to a system plagued
This is a subjective moral statement, not a fact.
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>>84016557
>prefential treatment is a justice
So what do you even argue about?
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>>84016536
Nice gaslighting, I am not the one legitimizing colonization and the genocide of an entire population. Since earlier, you have been promoting white supremacist ideas. A real deceiver and disingenuous crook
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>>84016553
All legal citizens who have any ties to immigrants or immigrant relatives will never vote republican again for the next decade.
That alone would be enough to tip the scale of the election, but more dissidents will come. Republicans are cooked for the foreseeable future. That's why trump is so desperate for a coup
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>>84016562
>Fixing preferential treatment is Justice
Fixed it for you
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>>84016565
Problems can be easily prevented if browns returned to countries they can from, like Siberia etc.
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>>84016573
>creating preferential treatment is a justice
What is your argument? Preferential treatment good? Ok.
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>>84016544
Yeah, fuck it. Go out on your shield if you are going to go out. Or die on your knees. Right now white men are dying on their knees.
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>>84016565
>I am not the one legitimizing colonization and the genocide of an entire population
Neither am i
>Since earlier, you have been promoting white supremacist ideas.
Quote me

If you cared to ask what my beliefs on race an immigration are you would know different.
But you are afraid to ask because knowing the truth would hurt your agenda, which is painting anybody against immigration or who rejects your generationally assigned guilt for colonization must be a white supremacist.
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>>84016568
>illegals should vote because of my speculation scenario
How many dorrars are you ou are ready to bet on your scenario?
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>>84016550
Your point is very superficial. Without making any moral statement about what is happening to white people, what are you even arguing about?
Whites are "diminishing" not in absolute numbers, but in the percentage of the general population (even though they're still 50% of the country). That's a fact that I never argued against anywhere.
If you don't make a moral statement about that, what is there to discuss? You neither agree nor disagree with it,you aren't saying it's a systematic campaign or a natural tendency, you are saying it doesn't matter. In fact, you are saying nothing at all. What then? What do you make with that information about the rate of whites in america? If you're not going to take a stand, there's nothing to be discussed.
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>>84016584
>Countering preferential treatment is Justice
Yes
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I would escape to SEA if it came to war. I feel no allegiance to any country. I feel like a Jew in that way. I don't care what happens to America.
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>>84015382
Donald trump doesn't have the balls to start a war
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>>84016595
You won't find that sentence anywhere in my posts. I never said illegals should vote. I'm saying that the multiple generations of immigrants and immigrant descendents that live in America are now alienated and disenfranchised by trump's administration and their votes will reflect that in the next elections to come
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>>84016618
Also, I just read the other responses and I agree. It would be better for the entire world if America failed. Their culture is rotten and spreads.
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>>84016592
I don't care about your beliefs, talking to you is enough to figure out what they are. You're just a retard with a high cortisol spike who refreshes the page every second to respond with a deflective and dishonest post. Someone who can't stand the sovereignty of peoples, accuses an ethnic group of being a "burden" on the white system, legitimizes colonization, supports genocide... that says a lot about you. I'll leave this thread as proof and your humiliation in this "debate"
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>>84016606
>Your point is very superficial.
>If you're not going to take a stand, there's nothing to be discussed.
I am making a point, I am deconstructing your position and showing that you are a dogmatic moralistic pseud who can't form a single point that isn't some ChatGPT-phorism like
>(All paraphrased, you get the memo)
>It's not facts, it's vibes. (Meaningless statement)
>That's not equality, it's oppression. (Moral statement)
>You just want to oppress. It's the same as slave owners in abolition. (Ad hominem with moral argument)
Anon's original points are legitimate, Whites are factually being replaced (this is entirely separate from a moral position on that replacement), and you have no arguments except it makes your tummy hurt to think about.
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>>84016529
>Then does this make concern over climate change "alarmist" simply because climate change is "free will" being exercised? Surely no one is intentionally trying to destroy the habitable environment?
No because the fact is, climate change is real, factual, and deliberately caused by forces that can be opposed and fought against.
"White displacement" however, is neither of those, it isn't a systematic campaign against white people that will lead to the destruction of the planet, it's not something being enforced by higher powers with ulterior motives, it isn't the result of any concrete measure or direct action done by corporations. It's simply a tendency of every 1st world countries that are seeing the decline of birth rates and other races are also affected by it.
The only reason why the idea of white people losing the status of majority bothers you, is because of your feelings.
You literally accuse me of something you're doing right now
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>>84016645
>that says a lot about you. I'll leave this thread as proof and your humiliation in this "debate"
KEK
did you just try to mic drop yourself after being intellectually gang raped to death by five different anons
I am dead for real
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So realistically what's going to happen
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>>84016552
>You are severely downplaying the violence inflicted on native Americans. The Portuguese colonization alone killed more than 2 millions.
No it didn't.
>You just described the difference between a systematic campaign of oppression and genocide
When did that happen?
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>>84016645
>I don't care about your beliefs, talking to you is enough to figure out what they are.
As i said, afraid.
>You're just a retard with a high cortisol spike who refreshes the page every second to respond with a deflective and dishonest post.
I have addressed every point you made in this debate, you are the one deflecting. More so now with ad hominems now that you realize your retarded logic defeats your own arguments.
>Someone who can't stand the sovereignty of peoples
I love the sovereignty of peoples. It is the foundation of my beliefs.
>accuses an ethnic group of being a "burden" on the white system
True, the facts don't lie.
>legitimizes colonization, supports genocide
False, that was you.
> I'll leave this thread as proof and your humiliation in this "debate"
You put debate in quotation to invalidate the effort you put in, and failure. But you took this very seriously. More seriously than i.
I didn't even delve into the smaller scale politics that dominated native american prehistory before the arrival of europeans because you were too retarded and disrespectful of native americans to care.
Racist.
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>>84016656
>Whites are factually being replaced
They aren't, because "replacement" implies their extermination. White people will always exist in some capacity. They might not be the majority in the future of this country though. That's not really replacement, they're still there enjoying the same rights as everyone else.
You clearly have a moral stand in this, you're just not genuine enough to share it.
The reason why OP feels so threatened by it (and both of your views are entirely based on feelings) is because he fears that one day he might get the same treatment that he gives to other minorities.
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I bet my portfolio that anon didn't know what a paleo-indian was or who the na-dene peoples are before i brought their names up.
I'd bet my freedom that he can't associate any current living tribes or their ancestry to the eastern states.
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>>84016626
>. I never said illegals should vote.
So you are saying illegals shouldn't vote?
What did you do personally to stop illegals from voting?
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>>84015382
Oh look, a jew pushing war.
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>>84016683
>The reason why OP feels so threatened by it (and both of your views are entirely based on feelings) is because he fears that one day he might get the same treatment that he gives to other minorities.
You really do walk around with this fantasy that future white children are going to be treated like shit, don't you? You are such a loser, dude. I hope you get some fucking help.
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>>84016658
>No because the fact is, climate change is real, factual, and deliberately caused by forces that can be opposed and fought against.
So you say there are people deliberately and intentionally trying to destroy the environment? This is an extreme conspiracy.

I'm going to make it very simple. You have no intellectual potential. I'm not really trying to be rude, it's just very apparent you have some sort of intellectual disability (I would assume it might be just a typical DD). You replied to me explaining that intentionality is not a part of this by repeating your straw man about intentionality. As I explained, no one is intentionally destroying the environment; there may be some random cult psychos doing it. But, the fact is, that climate change is happening as a result of free will. Consumers purchase products and corporations make them. The result of the structure is a negative impact on climate. Intentionality is not there, and neither is it necessary for climate change to be real.

White replacement can be thought of similarly. Whether there is intentionality, as I said much before and in the steelman of your position, does not matter. Factually, whites are being replaced. Factually, in the exact same way that you might claim a corporation seeking profit "deliberately" causes climate change, the policy of open immigration, which may be done with no intent to replace whites, functionally does, with no necessary intentionality.

This is entirely separate from the moral domain of whether it is good or not. You are just an imbecile, I'm very sorry to say it, and that's why you are clinging desperately to these moral pleas and Reddit-tier psychoanalytic projections. It's okay, not everyone was born to be smart. You just weren't.
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>>84016589
Unironically "going out of their shields" costed the white race more casualties and damage than anything any other race ever inflicted upon them. Hitler singlehandedly destroyed white pride and white nationalism for at least a whole century
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>>84016612
DEI keeps preferential treatment so not a counter.
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>>84016690
Trump is losing popularity as you post
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/pol/ has been conscripted into WW3 hundreds of times by now. Nothing ever happens and you don't need a conscript army to drop some bombs.
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>>84016683
>They aren't, because "replacement" implies their extermination
No it doesn't, you are repeating a strawman again. I am led to believe your ChatGPT has reached the context window and is now hallucinating because it has forgotten what I already said before: >>84016178

You are such an imbecile, it's so fucking funny. But keep cooking little man.
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>>84016707
>turn the oppression against the oppressor
The best counter
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>>84016704
I would have rather lived in those few short 10 years than an entire lifetime in this cucked out reality. I can't imagine being around nothing but white men filled with honor and pride. Instead of these cucked losers I'm surrounded by now. You are probably one of them too.
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This thread is basically just pro-maga that want us to forget history in America to push us toward war jfl
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>>84016731
>pro-maga
Doesn't read like it. It seems like a lot of men that refuse to fight for Trump's America. It seems like a lot of lefties trying to convince them why they should fight for this fag diversity nation lmfao
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>>84016713
>No it doesn't
Yes it does. When you replace someone, you take them out of the picture and swap them for someone else. You don't "replace" an employee by keeping them around with the same guarantees and rights as other workers. That's not replacement at all. That's merely diversifying your portfolio.
White people aren't being replaced by anyone. They're just one more group of people who are in this country like any other. You, however, cling to the notion that not having a white majority equals replacement.
It doesn't. That's a completely moral perspective by the way, and it stretches semantics to the breaking point
You're so repetitive. Accusing others of using chat gpt, accusing others of being driven by emotions, and yet I'm inclined to believe you're doing those and you can't help but project like a typical right winger. Is your tummy hurting now?
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>>84016726
I think it is a good possibility that all the good white bloodlines died in that war. The bloodlines with self respect went out like a warrior. Everyone left is just a scared punk ass cuck that submit to other groups.
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>>84016731
You having delusions? Have you tried medication? No one wants to fight for this gay nation of brown liberal faggots whether blue jews, red jews, or orange baboon wants it.
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>>84016732
No one is telling you to fight any war, incel.
Leftists oppose American imperialism.
Right wingers hate america because it has niggers and faggots inside.
We are not the same.
They're just pointing out that your reasons are stupid.
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>>84016731
How can that be your read? Everyone here is anti-war. There is only one side retardedly saying "you're anti war for the wrong reasons"
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>>84016753
>Leftists oppose American imperialism.
Good because that inevitably means the loser shitskin nation that produces nothing turns poor. You deserve to be poor. Your entire shitskin nation deserves nothing but poverty. The entire world needs to watch your liberal monstrosity fail spectacularly.
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>>84016726
>I would have rather died in a senseless war than live as a freeman alongside niggers
It's not too late for you to die senselessly, you know? The door is right there
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>>84016763
Cucked out fucking loser. I legit hate most white men. You can't call me a white supremacist because I hate most of you with a passion.
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war is gay as fuck, war for israel is gay on a cosmic scale. I hope it doesn't happen and that my persian bros get lots of persian pussy
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>>84016731
>>84016744
I'm not saying that there are many supporters of war doofus. but there are individuals here who obscure part of history in America so that people go to war
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>>84016713
There's no mass immigration in america so you are completely blowing this out of proportion by comparing it to the literal British settlement that was 1917 Israel
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>>84016738
>Yes it does. When you replace someone, you take them out of the picture and swap them for someone else. You don't "replace" an employee by keeping them around with the same guarantees and rights as other workers. That's not replacement at all. That's merely diversifying your portfolio.
No, you are inventing a new abstraction that has nothing to do with the argument. As I said before, extermination, genocide, replacement, etc., are social constructs, and in this case, I am only explaining that the term replacement is accurate in the same way the term replacement is used for Palestianians, who factually increased in absolute numbers from 1922-1945, yet decreased as a percentage of the population, all without an intentional plan for their replacement. Judging solely by replacement is used in this context, it is accurate to describe what is happening to whites as replacement; replacement by percentages does not imply that there is an absolute 1 for 1 replacement of each unit. A replacement of one demographic majority with another only necessarily implies the change in percentages of representation within the population.
>White people aren't being replaced by anyone. They're just one more group of people who are in this country like any other. You, however, cling to the notion that not having a white majority equals replacement.
>It doesn't. That's a completely moral perspective by the way, and it stretches semantics to the breaking point
No it isn't a moral position. It is a factual statement. The only thing that's breaking down is your ChatGPT's context window.

>You're so repetitive. Accusing others of using chat gpt, accusing others of being driven by emotions, and yet I'm inclined to believe you're doing those and you can't help but project like a typical right winger. Is your tummy hurting now?
You can say what you like, you have not made a single factual argument in this entire thread, you are an imbecile.
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>>84016726
You wasted your life and your freedom online, amounting to nothing but failure in a world filled with possibilities.
Face it, my dear adolescent. You are weak. Body and soul. You exhale weakness. Anonymity is the only thing that let you pretend otherwise.
You can romanticize past wars and former glory all you want (the crux of fascism by the way) but you cannot pretend, for one second, that an ideology that favoured the strong against the weak would welcome you with open arms.
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>>84016788
>Zionists organised Aliyah Bet, a programme of illegal immigration into Palestine. Lehi, a small group of extremist Zionists, staged armed attacks on British authorities in Palestine.
The idea that Palestinians were being replaced actively is an extremist conspiracy. There was just natural demographic change due to immigration. Yet, historians obviously regard it as replacement, and it's because we examine the actual practical results rather than our moral feelings regarding it (whether it was colonial, or whether the Jews deserved it). Whatever the case may be, there was a factual replacement in demographic groups.
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>>84016781
is it bad i just want them to bomb the shit out of the regime so i can visit and get a big nosed persian wife to eskimo kiss with?
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You people are arguing all these historical concepts but I really do not give a shit about any of this. When I go outside all the young women are fat and brown. Does that not upset anyone else? All the young women are fat and brown. I'm not fighting any war because I don't have anything. Plebs were never meant to have a lot, and I'm fine with that, but we were at least supposed to have some pussy. They are all fat and brown. Its disgusting.
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>>84016791
>you have not made a single factual argument
I made several, you are simply immune to facts. White people are still not discriminated against or persecuted in any fashion. The process they're going through right now doesn't compare in the slightest to what happened to Palestine or native Americans.
If white birth rates are declining, that's not "replacement", it's not genocide, it's not a campaign against white people.
Your stake against this decline is purely emotional, and based on lies that paint a fictional picture of the world today, where white people are still the ruling majority of the most powerful countries.
More than "white replacement" you are talking about white people being treated like everyone else, and you paint this as the ultimate tragedy against whiteness
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>>84016815
When I go outside all the people are white so maybe your perspective is biased by your local community
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>>84016822
>When I go outside all the people are white
Where at? Some bumfuck town of 10,000 where everyone is old?
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I'm telling you I live in a major city and they are all fat and brown. I don't see young attractive fair skinned women much. Every day I think about moving to Japan or South Korea. Somewhere the beauty index is higher. They have ruined this country with fat brown women.
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>>84016816
>White people are still not discriminated against or persecuted in any fashion.
And I did not say that, you need to keep on track. You honestly better be using ChatGPT, because if inventing a strawman every post is the best you can do, that is genuinely sad on a metaphysical level.
>The process they're going through right now doesn't compare in the slightest to what happened to Palestine or native Americans.
There never needs to be a one-to-one comparison for any given situation. A demographic replacement is factually occurring. I am not saying there needs to be persecution or genocide, you just keep desperately, desperately pleading and crying this same point again and again, but really for no reason because it isn't relevant. I would say it's probably your LLM getting stuck on this because they associate words like (demographic) replacement necessarily with persecution or genocide, so they can't really provide a neutral argument, otherwise it would risk what is perceived as hate speech.

>Your stake against this decline is purely emotional,
No, I'm just telling you factual arguments. I am East Asian from an East Asian country now living in the USA. This is kind of the problem with this desperate psychoanalytic posturing, it doesn't mean anything and it isn't a substitution for the arguments you desperately need to think of.
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>>84016797
>that an ideology that favoured the strong against the weak would welcome you with open arms.
And what ideology would?
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>>84016815
This is the most based post ITT.
Irrefutable.
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How are you going to even claim to be a rich country and all the women are fat and brown? I really want to understand that. You are broke. The one thing that makes life fun and you can't even enjoy it unless you are super wealthy I guess. Fat brown women have ruined this country and no one highlights this fact.
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>>84016889
Us east asians are brown too though.
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I'm not even surprised American politicians had a rape island. The alternative is fat brown women.
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>>84015523
>see an interracial couple once
>"I AM LITERALLY BEING GENOCIDED RIGHT NOW."
yt fragility go crazyyy
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>>84016926
Go fight to defend the American way of life, shitskin. Because I'm not.
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https://voca.ro/1gUZCsjrer48
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>>84017020
shalom goyums
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>>84017028
-gay pop music plays- Hey there, wanna be my goytoy
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Gee i wonder who will win the people that wish every american was dead since like 50 years ago or the fatsoes that dont give af and dont know what an iran is
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>>84017078
https://voca.ro/1aYcZxDtommY
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>>84017078
I wonder why the leader of the degenerate liberal country wants to wipe out the traditional conservative country ? Probably because the fat orange clown isn't conservative at all. Remember the last "conservative" president that did this Afgan tried to install feminism.
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>>84017107
>fat orange clown



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