>>84015911
>DESPERATE to find a
>respectful guy
I don't think so anon

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>>84015911
we get it, you value your time and sanity

>>84015911
>to find a cute respectful guy
>cute
Exactly.
I'm ugly.

>>84015926
Its about your personality retard. Just take a shower, and go say "hi" to a woman. Its litteraly that easy.

>>84015933
>says personality is important
>calls you a retard
kek it would seem you are the retard

If something happens, it's men's fault. If nothing happens, it's men's fault.

Guys are just going to keep checking out. It's kind of like the declining middle class.

WHO GIVES A FUCK
I WANT TO WAKE UP AT NOON AND PLAY VIDEO GAMES ALL DAY
DO I GIVE A FUCK WHAT ANY SINGLE FUCKING WOMEN WANTS
NO

>>84015943
Men have to take initiative. Thats litteraly their job. Y'all just want princess treatement.
>ugly men are checking out
Good riddance

>>84015911
>Its impossible to be single in 2026 A
Fact check!
>According to a MagnifyMoney analysis of the latest U.S. Census Bureau data, 55.6% of Americans 20 and older across the 100 largest cities are single, meaning they arent married or theyre divorced, separated or widowed. Singlehood is even more common among women across the 100 largest cities (57.3%) than men (53.7%).

>>84015911
I went on all the dating apps and paid for visibility and got no likes. If women ever want me they can have me at any time.

>>84015933
I take care of my hygiene and have a wage slave job. It's not that easy unfortunately. Women highly value attractiveness.

>>84015911
https://voca.ro/1cyboaFzAGRy

If women are aware theyre culling the males theyre pretty fucking stupid since its a coin flip theyll have a son.
Unless they want to spin sperm in a machine and insert baby batter into the bussy.

When youre attractive women are actually nice to you. You dont have to believe me but frankly I prefer dealing with women over men.

>>84015911
i have only ever seen foids talk about this epidemic when they want to insult men
no man ever mentions it

I have cold approached many women recently, I got rejected every single time. it's not a number's game.

>>84016182
Its definitely a numbers game, its just an easier numbers game when youre actually attractive

>>84016182
Men and women are not that much different really. Specially white women since theyre so manly.
Imagine you see an ugly chick and asks you for your number. Youd say no right? Now imagine she walks up to you and grabs your dick. Well ok fine.

>>84015959
Women are single because theres no decent men out there. How many attractive men do you see in a day? None. Meanwhile there are successful, attractive women litteraly everywhere.
That girl in the OP is a litteral catch but moids would rather make up insane bs to reject her

>>84016283
why would anyone give a fuck if a woman is successful or attractive

>>84016113
>My standards are increasing the dumps
What does this mean

>>84016346
>What does this mean
the amout of excrement that her anus outputs keeps getting bigger

>>84016362
>I meant to say my standards are in the dumps
How low are we talking?

>>84016283
Women are single because they don't put in an effort.
Take a shower, talk to men, pay for a date. It's that simple.

>>84016019
I don't get this attitude with you guys. What's wrong with being 'good enough' or 'betabucks'?
You would settle for a woman with sub-optimal looks and learn to find her attractive if you were able to. It's a thing for women too.

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>>84016362
Are they low enough yet for you to consider brown men?

>>84016384
>You would settle for a woman with sub-optimal looks and learn to find her attractive if you were able to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
women need to stop this strategy

>>84016392
I'm a guy but what if there is an inconsistency in your argument and character, it's hardly a fallacy.

>>84015911
Hi women.
Wanna chat?

>>84016384
I don't get this attitude with you girls. What's wrong with 'looking at porn' or 'checking out other women?'

>>84016409
no, it's still fallacious reasoning it's just a case of moral luck on the part of the accuser

>>84016379
now this here is the motherfucking truth. they put in zero fucking effort and it's like this everywhere. they just fucking stare, that's all they do. if they see a cute guy they will just toe the line over and over and never escalate. that's how they are in 2026. it actually wasn't this bad just one decade ago. everything has become completely fucked to the point where women have dialed in on their value of their holes more than anything and it's absolutely awful right now. you will never ever see them put forth any effort because they want to remain the prized possession

>>84016113
>my standards are in the dumps
>you must be 2m/7ft+ to date me (0.000038% of the global population)
?

>>84015911
it's not completely self inflicted, but considering the following two statements are from the same guy I wouldn't say it's not self inflicted at all

>You don't shave your arms? you look like a fucking man
>you dont want to go on a second date?? fuck yuo wshore

copy and pasted from his message to me.

>>84016569
Why is it a fallacy exactly?
The argument is
>betabucks is bad because you are not the first choice
>is she your first choice?
>if no then there is no problem, no one is losing, nothing is bad in it, everyone acknowledges that you can't get with young Megan Fox just because you would like to

>>84016240
>Imagine you see an ugly chick and asks you for your number. Youd say no right
Absolutely not. I have been rejected by morbidly obese women, drug addicts and litteral hobos

>>84016384
>You would settle for a woman with sub-optimal looks and learn to find her attractive
I would not settle for her.
Any woman willing to date me or think about anything long term (including marriage and kids) would be my first choice.

>>84016681
Asshole averted? Sounds like a success.

>>84016283
If you actually watch the video she stresses that she wants a "travel partner" which translates to "I want a walking ATM who will take me to foreign countries." The men also can't see her, there's a partition between the two groups. Its purely based on personality of which she has little.

>>84016727
Ok, you are special. Many anons here acknowledge that they would not go for a woman that was sufficiently ugly and retarded.

>>84015911
>- I'm desperate for a guy! I''l take anyone!
>- Uh Hi
>- EW

>>84015911
Being single as a 20 something guy in canada is the default.

>>84016384
>I don't get this attitude with you guys. What's wrong with being 'good enough' or 'betabucks'?
That's the problem, many men can't even make the cut for betabux anymore. It's a new underclass of 2nd citizen males that go to work, pay taxes working a dead end job with female management. Day in day out they go nowhere and are invisible to women. They're the worker bees who go home after getting dirty at their 12 hour labor shift, do drugs and masterbate to pornography. That's the height of what they're working towards. They're exploited and forgotten. The lucky ones kill themselves early.

>>84016899
I'd say women when hitting 40s are grudgely becoming ready for second class betabux. But betabux aren't ready to wait so long. Man who was out of romantic life for a decade will never come back.

>>84016922
I'm not arguing against that, obviously women take longer before they start to settle. I don't think we should feel cheated or indignant just because we have a stone age brain.
I will end by stating that fuck snakelike scheming women, I wish they got hanged.

>>84016922
At that point it's very unlikely to be possible to have kids with such a woman. Even at 30 it's a stretch because it takes a bit of time to get to know each other enough to make such a serious decision. If it weren't for the ability to have kids, these spinsters are totally worthless. They are, almost by definition, terrible companions, a net drain on an already stressed male, and unable to provide anything (comfort, reduced workload, support, whatever) beyond sex (which we all know they don't put out for anyway).

I think "impossible" is a strong word, but "highly improbable" is right. Basically 99.99% of people that are single are so by their own choice. Which is fine, if you don't feel ready or willing to enter a relationship, there shouldn't be any pressure.
I've said it before many times on this board, but there are no "incels" here. The best you could try to muster is "volcel", for some particularly angry and nasty boys. But really, it's many a handful few nervous boys that will just grow up and find themselves.
There isn't a person on here that couldn't find a person to fuck or partner up if they wanted to. They just need to make some mental adjustments and choose when the time is right for them.

>>84016845
Literally this
>>84016681
Why do you women only ever date these people? We robots typically get 0 date to be clear. You don't understand the magnitude of things you're talking about. This guy guaranteed is going to at least have short term relationships, probably will find long term ones. We don't even get the time of day.
I have literally never seen of or heard someone like you describe IRL and everyone I know is long-term single (though many not virgins).
>>84016113
You're just trolling but last time I talked to a supposed fembot who said something like that, she claimed she is very offputting to men in real life and had no standards. We chat for a couple hours maybe and she decides I'm too robotic and it won't work.
The equivalent on the male side literally doesn't exist, arguably it's "don't be fat" but that's not widely shared and men will nearly always accept fatties trying to lose weight.

>>84016754
Its just a performance. Any anon on here would melt if any girl was interested in us. But thatd never happen

>>84017093
>Any anon on here would melt if any girl was interested in us. But thatd never happen

I'd actually be wondering what CIA honeypot I'm involved in and why they want me.

I tried dating but I didn't like any of the women, I thought they were all weird, because they were.
>drinking at work
>drinking and driving
>living with their exes
>talking to their ex everyday and are a single mother
>posting porn and weird shit online
the list just goes on and fucking on.

>>84017086
100% this. You can't really be "incel" if you're out there. Between the millions of ways to meet girls, Tinder and everything else, it's not really possible. Well, if you don't try, of course.

>>84017093
I personally would not go for a retard, like a IQ 80-90 airhead, that's disgusting.

>>84017119
I was talking to a girl who is currently in a situationship with her ex, because its too difficult and expensive for him to move out. So I'm guessing they don't really talk and have a sort of FWB off and on again thing again going still.

>>84017086
I'm 34 and still single. Here are some basic stats about me.
>top 10% salary
>own home
>highly educated
>hobbies
>hobbies outside videogames and anime
>not overweight nor skinny
>full head of hair
>clean
>nice, polite, assertive, apparently funny
>allegedly very good looking

How much longer do I need to wait to "grow up" and "find myself"?

I tried to do social bullshit so hard I had mental breakdowns on 3 different occasions. No friends, no gf.
Tried all the memes usually touted around like hobby groups, gym, bars, etc. Tried asking out a girl and almost get HR thrown at me.

What am I doing that is voluntary in not entering a relationship? I have been mentally, physically and financially ready for it for 11 years and that's how long I've tried without success so far.

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>>84017119
Try to find some young, pretty girls instead. Obviously everyone's gonna be weird, but so are you. Can't bog yourself down too much in judgment. But at least with women under 25, they're less likely to be moms etc.
Maybe be more picky with your selection of girls?

>>84017132
run for the fucking hills, plain and shrimple.

These stupid threads remind me of boomers unable to comprehend the dating world has fucking changed for the worse.

>>84017137
>everyones gonna be weird but so are you
giant fucking cop out of the century to just call me weird without knowing anything about me lmao.

Do i sound weird if Im able to date? Also i've been picky my entire life, this was me being less picky.
You have no idea what you're talking about, you're just throwing out random guesses.

I'm not gonna waste my time selecting woman after failed woman after failed woman, has nothing to do with me whatsoever and trying spin it on to me is retarded.

>>84017136
Based on what you said, if true, it sounds like you're more than set up for whatever you're looking for.
>almost get HR thrown at me
Dating directly through work is never a good plan. It makes you look like a creep, and rightfully so.
>What am I doing that is voluntary
You can't just sit around, mate. Just because you have some good things going for you, which it seems like you do, no partners will magically appear at your doorstep. That's just the prerequisite.

Again, there are millions of ways to meet people, and obviously you can always "cheat" and use a dating app like Tinder if you just want pussy and see where it goes from there.
Mostly it's just about vibes and confidence. It's not that hard.

>>84017149
No need to be offended, anon. Statistically speaking, you're likely to be weird, as is everyone else. That's a positive thing. Think how boring it would be if we're all uniform.
> i've been picky my entire life
That's okay. As long as you're being realistic with your goals and open enough to allow yourself to be vulnaerable to potential partners.
>I'm not gonna waste my time on women
Well, then it will be very hard to find or bond to women. Surely, that makes sense to you, no?

>>84017136
Girls like drugs, do that

>>84017167
>Dating directly through work is never a good plan. It makes you look like a creep, and rightfully so.
But that's the problem innit? The same applies to 100% of ways to meet girls today. And when I don't specify there's always going to be one of you telling me to try at work. I tried all the usual things with 0 success. No matter how you look at it, you can't say it's voluntary. I am hardly alone in this. Case in point: you immediately turn around after acknowledging that I am clearly not sitting around just to accuse me of sitting around.

>>84017175
I found the exact opposite: the great majority of girls hate drugs and drug users, and consider it a hard blocker on any prospect of a relationship.

>>84017167
no ones offended it's just the shit you're saying is stupid, that's what you need to understand.

>>84015911
Oh no the male lonliness epidemic is fake because
>squints
A group of good looking charismatic men who were screened for a TV show with good options in women won't date an 18 year old toddler

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>>84017182
I didn't turn around anywhere, homie. I'm right here. I said it's good that you're staying active and trying. That's a good move.
So what are you looking for?

>>84017175
Of course, there's this. There are an infinite number of hot models sitting around that'll come over to your place at the snap of a finger if you got some good blow and a sound system. Definitely don't need to look good or be socially competent to bag a 10/10 that way. It's not the most "fun" way, but it's a way. It's something I only do from time to time if I'm in like a dry month and you're feeling horny. Especially if you're looking for like the skinny models.

>>84017190
Don't be mad, my little friend. Try to listen and ask questions if you need to.

>>84017186
>I found the exact opposite: the great majority of girls hate drugs and drug users, and consider it a hard blocker on any prospect of a relationship.
well... thats what they tell you....

>>84017205
>I didn't turn around anywhere, homie. I'm right here. I said it's good that you're staying active and trying. That's a good move.
I am referring this this part:
>Dating directly through work is never a good plan.
-> acknowledging you understand I'm not just sitting around, regardless of if that was a good plan.
>You can't just sit around, mate. Just because you have some good things going for you, which it seems like you do, no partners will magically appear at your doorstep. That's just the prerequisite.
-> turning around and accusing me of sitting around.

This is very common when talking about these things with people who really really want it to be voluntary (I suspect it is an instantiation of the just world fallacy).

>So what are you looking for?
Love, marriage, kids. The only hard criteria are the physical ability for her to be able to do these things, and the mental ability to do so (for example, nobody extremely mentally ill or drug addicted, infertile or mentally unable to take care of a child, would do, but I can support anyone who needs it and have no requirements on looks, education level, interests, or whatever else).
The soft criteria is that we have sufficient agreement about what a life together might look like, i.e. how to raise children, where to live in the world, who works and doesn't work, how mutual support works, etc. But when I've gotten close enough to someone to talk about these things, I was told my criteria are all normal/average/low bars so it's probably not a blocker. Not that I ever got to a stage where it was actually possible for such potential disagreements to even make a difference.

>>84016590
>now this here is the motherfucking truth. they put in zero fucking effort and it's like this everywhere. they just fucking stare
Are they starting at me because I'm ugly? do I have something on my face?

>>84017086
>their own choice. Which is fine, if you don't feel ready or willing to enter a relationship, there shouldn't be any pressure.
Kek no ive been trying to find girls to date but there are any young women anywhere, at least where i live
>Incels dont exist there are just boys that will just grow up and find themselves.
I have a job, friends and a fairly normie life, i try to show up to as many activities and do as much as i can to meet people but everywhere i go its just men and old people. How am i a volcel
>There isn't a person on here that couldn't find a person to fuck or partner up if they wanted to.
I cannot. Feel free to tell me where those magical unicorn women who want me are. Because irl they dont exist

>>84017240
Not that guy but you may look a little bit desperate and weird if you are talking about having a family as a guy and you will straight up turn some women off by pressuring them to have children.

>>84017240
Sorry, you misunderstood me, homie. It's good that you're taking initiative. But some choices are better than others, I'm sure we can agree, right? Like if you need money, it's better to get a job than to try to rob a bank. Both show initiative, but one option is a lot smarter. That's more what I was getting at.
>people who really really want it to be voluntary
I understand that might be a comfortable position for you to take, but it will not help you in the long run. I hope you can trust me on that. If you have a problem, it's usually better to try and solve it. I'm here if you need some advice. Don't got magic powers, but I got experience.

I agree, what you're looking for sounds reasonable, and nothing intangible. That's good, it gives you a wide array of options. The best starting advice I could give is to not look for love. That basically never works. Especially not with all the follow-ups, which may put a lot of pressure on a prospective partner. Just try it out for a while and see how things pan out. As for what happens after a relationship starts, I think you're right, that it's something you'll talk about at that point and figure out how you want to raise children together etc. Just remember that you both need to be willing to make concessions to reach a workable compromise.

>>84017310
It's not like I open and say "hey girl it's the first time we've talked and let's have kids now!". What normally happens is we get along and eventually one or the other (about 3/4 times it's her) brings up expectations for children.

Furthermore, at our age, if she's not ready to have children (which doesn't mean tomorrow, but actively wanting them and being ready to plan for this seriously), then the relationship can't possibly work, obviously.

>>84017330
>But some choices are better than others, I'm sure we can agree, right?
Yes
>Like if you need money, it's better to get a job than to try to rob a bank. Both show initiative, but one option is a lot smarter. That's more what I was getting at.
This is a very poor analogy. Imagine instead that you need money and also there are maybe 10 jobs available, none of which want you but they won't tell you why and you have, on paper, everything they want. So you fully exhaust the obvious option, then you go for the less obvious option. Surely we can agree that this, too, makes sense. After all, we have established that you need (not want) money, in this scenario, and that the obvious choice did not work.

> If you have a problem, it's usually better to try and solve it.
You've already acknowledged that I am doing the things needed for this and that I have already achieved specs that are required for this, despite it still not working.
You have failed to identify any problem.

>The best starting advice I could give is to not look for love. That basically never works. Especially not with all the follow-ups, which may put a lot of pressure on a prospective partner.
You're once again acting as if I'm dating girls left and right and have 500 options. What does "(not) looking for love" in that context even mean, behaviorally speaking?

You seem to really want it to be voluntary and simply make things up as you go to try to force your conclusion.

You have yet to identify a problem, let alone suggest a solution.

>>84017367
I'm not really here to debate with you. But if you want help, you're welcome to ask and I'll do the best I can.

>You have failed to identify any problem
That's something you should do. You tell me/us what the problem is, and through honesty, we might be able to wittle out suggestions for you.

It always starts with assuming personal responsibility, which might be painful for some. But that's the only way to progress.

>>84017367
Why haven't you went and got a wife from the Philippines yet?

>>84017403
You seem to be once again quite confused due to relying on too many false assumptions related to this conversation. Most importantly, you made the claim that my relationship status is voluntary. My original response to your post was that this wasn't true and I posted details about what I have done and that it did not work. The onus is therefore on YOU to demonstrate that it is voluntary. You can do this by identifying a resolvable problem I have. If you can achieve this, you will have proven that it is voluntary, because there is something that I have failed to address, which is within my control. Note that this is, of course, an extremely permissive definition of "voluntary", specifically designed to give you as much leeway as possible. But this is why I put the emphasis on problem identification above.
If you had paid attention to my posts, you would also notice that I pointed out by analogy that I am not receiving any information about why it's not working, just that it doesn't work even though in principle everything should be there for it to work.
And this is another incorrect assumption you're making: if I knew what the problem was, I wouldn't be posting here, I would be addressing it, just like, as I have previously explained, I have addressed all possible issues by following the typical advice.
I will also point out that other anons itt have shared their own experience in some dimensions of the problem, such as joining hobby clubs, which mirror my own. I point that out as further support that my woes are shared by a sufficiently large group of others, which is further evidence discrediting your initial assertion.

>>84017437
I want love, marriage and kids.
They only want the marriage bit (for the residency permit).
I know this because yes, I did, in fact, try. Mostly in south america to be fair. I am currently trying in one SEA country in particular, but it is mostly incidental. So far no luck.

>>84017167
>Again, there are millions of ways to meet people
Yes men. Meeting women? Its dating apps or nothing and dating apps are hopeless unless youre turboattractive

>>84017452
Nice, good like with the SEA wife. I'm sure you will find someone.

>>84017478
*luck
Goddamn insomnia

>>84017437
Even if you want that, why would you pick PH? They're universally known as neurotic and demanding.

>>84017439
>my relationship status is voluntary
Right.
>onus is therefore on YOU
No, I'm not here to debate. But I can help you you need it.
>I wouldn't be posting here
But you know that doesn't make sense. Many people here are in a relationship, engaged, married, have kids, have lots of sex. You can't just build up a false pretense and use it as a shield. That will not help you.
Tbh, it seems more like you're on here to argue than you solve issues. Obviously there's nothing stopping you from a relationship but yourself, so the best route of action would be to try to identify your biggest issues and see if we can't help you work around those. No one's unfixable, and there's always a good solution available. That's a big part of the "vol" bit, you are making a choice you be grating. If you open yourself up to be vulnerable, positive and willing to change, your rewards will come that much sooner, homie.

>>84017466
Dating apps are definitely a good choice, but certainly not the only one. It will really depend on who you are as a person and what you're looking for. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but it is undoubtedly effective.

>>84017478
SEA wives are great, too, of course. Especially if you take your time to parse for genuine love and affection, as you should do anywhere else in the world.

>>84017489
Philippines is the meme, I meant any SEA nationatily really. Well maybe not Cambodia, they are fucked up.

>>84016384
>good enough' or 'betabucks'?
Women don't put out for guys they feel this way about.
I am not dating a woman who doesn't put out for me, simple as.

>>84017498
>Dating apps are definitely a good choice,
Never had a single match on them
>but certainly not the only one.
Where else then?
Bars? Just old people and men
Church? Same
Salsa/cooking/language classds? Dame, just men and boomers
Hobby groups? Sausage fests/retirement homes too
Work? Just men
>It will really depend on who you are as a person and what you're looking for.
Anything but preferably long term.
Never had a single girl be into me ever.

>>84017478
Thanks for the well wishes.
Like I said, so far it's not been working well in these directions as our expectations are not aligned. I will continue to try any approach in the playbook and hope to eventually report back with what worked and didn't work.

>>84017489
>No, I'm not here to debate. But I can help you you need it.
Irrelevant. The onus remains on you, whether or not you want to take up the debate. So far, you have failed to provide any backing for your claim and multiple people have pointed out its flaws (equally, of course, with no proof, but that will be the nature of these things). If you are unable or unwilling to defend your claim, then your claim must be rejected. This is not the same as saying the claim is true or false.

>Many people here are in a relationship, engaged, married, have kids, have lots of sex. You can't just build up a false pretense and use it as a shield. That will not help you.
And yet those people are not me. I use no pretense and no shield, I am explaining my situation, vulnerable and naked before you. The exact opposite of your claim. Once again, it appears you have already made your conclusion and refuse to accept reality, going so far as to making undue assumption or apparent attempts at attacks to try to defend your conclusion (instead of doing what someone serious would do: inquiring and, based on evidence, coming to a conclusion).

You have yet to suggest any potential problem, or any solution to any problem. I have been nothing but receptive, as evidence by my continuing to help you help yourself. You have only been posting in bad faith so far.

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>impossible to be single in 2026
>mfw I achieved the impossible

>>84016590
>that's how they are in 2026. it actually wasn't this bad just one decade ago
When have they not been this way?
You jews gaslight like fucking crazy man.

>>84015911
When are they going to do a version of this that isn't all wealthy people

>>84017679
>>impossible to be single in 2026
>>mfw I achieved the impossible
me too

wow I must've been beating off the girls with a stick without even knowing it

>>84016090
Men start with having problems with you if you're attractive.

>>84017053
>>84016727
>>84016899
holy FUCK. Why the fuck are you guys engaging in good faith with that post? I fucking hate you gay zoomers so fucking much. This board has become so damn gay. Trannies don't even get called out.

Zoomies actually find if amusing to interact with them. It's insane how pathetic you guys are. How incapable of being completely alone you are that you give these demons your time at all. Ten years ago, these people were shouted off the board every single time.

Now you guys are actually folding and giving in to beta bux. I thought that as redpill became more popular more men would feel the shame associated with beta buxing and women would change their tone but instead you guys are just gaslighting so you could still get your secondhand pussy and act like you're not a beta cuck

>>84016899
Nope. That's not the problem. Beta buxing like a cuck and not wearing the pants in the relationship is the problem. The goal of the pro men movement is to bring back the patriarchy in full force and have women lose their rights. We weren't just joking around and trying to grift women. The goal is to absolutely submit them and you fags that want you gay mommy dom relationship aren't representative of anything other than all of the other reddit onions cuks just like you .

>>84017846
Excuse me for not having things going for me enough for me to become le epic alpha male.

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>>84015911
I've legit been trying really hard to get a girlfriend for the past year and its given me nothing but bad experiences with foids that just want momentary attention and then ghost you. This board fucking sucks for dating, not that this wasn't already well known.

>>84016922
>But betabux aren't ready to wait so long
M8 there shouldn't be any other consideration except for whether she's a used up whore that won't birth you non gay non cuck sons

>>84017876
Just be a loser in a room or a socially disruptive asshole. Don't shill for cuckoldry or beta fagotry. Never validate a trash spinster loser woman by giving her affection. They need to be alone with their cats and their regrets. You guys get in the way of that

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>>84017897
I don't really care about a woman's past unless it affects her present situation. She could be the class bicycle for all I care as long as she never had kids, isn't friends with her ex, and doesn't have any substance abuse problems.

>>84017907
This, it's useless to take what women say or think seriously. Nothing in their identity has a basis.

>>84017052
I will dox you and chop off your dick if you ever stick it in a used up hag you fucking stupid faggot coomer. What's wrong with porn? In porn you can be stimulated by much more attractive and less masculine looking women therefore less gay.

Are you gay? Is that way manly old woman are attractive to you?

>>84017093
Bro no white incel would settle for a fat gorrila black women or a crackwhore

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>>84017932
I've considered dating a few of the druggie whores on /soc/ you have no idea how cute some of them are when you don't know they're a druggie whore.

black girls can be cute if they like anime or are just generally shy/quiet. I'd love to date one.

>>84017500
SEA is awesome. Cool, diverse cultures with tons of interesting people. PH girls do have a reputation to mind, though.

>>84017514
>Never had a single match
Maybe we should have a look at your profile?
>Where else
Could be literally anywhere of a million places. Not on /r9k/, though lol
>Anything but preferably long term
That's cool. That means you have wide open doors and lots of options available to you.

>>84017517
You need to give a little, homie. A stranger on the internet cannot magically fix whatever issue you have. I see that you're posting in bad faith, but assuming you're not trolling, I guarantee you it will not help you.
What is it you want help with, specifically?

"travel" is just code for "spend a lot of money on me while I contribute nothing but sex and then we break up when I get bored"

>>84016706
'Betabux' is the second part of the whole phrase: Alpha fux, beta bux.

The point is beta only pays up. Only thing he gains is social capital with the promise of pussy hanging by a string in front of the hamster wheel. He turns the wheel that powers the generators that powers the alpha's whole existence.

Paying into this is way more pathetic than living for yourself and only yourself.

>>84017953
Travel means to go around, away from where you usually live. Some people do it as a life-style, but typically it's a temporary thing.

>>84017961
I reckon living alone is more of a misery than betabux. Never marry a snake though.

>>84017907
>>84017918
You guys are astroturfing trannies or kikes trying to reel men in again.

That's absolutely not been the board's sentiment for the last ten years and for you to say this so nonchalantly shows you've barely been here for more than a year max.

>>84018002
>That's absolutely not been the board's sentiment for the last ten years and for you to say this so nonchalantly shows you've barely been here for more than a year max.
I've been here since 2006 and your obsession with following the "board's sentiment" instead of having your own opinion shows you're probably a 2016 tourist that got left behind.

>>84017979
Shut up fucking kike

>>84018008
Its the only way to keep out the trannies and kikes trying to subvert things. Our own memes became the zeitgeist and the younger gens are on their way to becoming the most patriarchal in generations if this psyop and astroturf campaign doesn't succeed. They are clearly doing something. Clavicular is such an obvious psyop to make the less ridiculous aspects of redpill seem absurd. He's a part of the same apparatus as the astroturfers here trying to make men fine with being betas again.

The jews are successfully making whites pro jews again just with astroturfing on the boards and on x. This thing is extremely affective

>>84017846
I prefer to engage seriously whenever possible because that is how I would like the site to be again.

>>84018044
Trannies don't have any serious goals. They are clownworlding to the max

>>84018067
Irrelevant. 4chan was about the content of posts, not the identity of posters, until you subhumans came ruining everything.
Of course I'm aware that seriously posting is a waste of time now, since it all ends with shit like >>84017944
But that doesn't mean I should stop hoping it can get better again, and it won't get better by shitflinging and playing idpol all day.

Even if bad faith posters like that one may not be meaningful to respond to seriously, doing so can nevertheless encourage others to engage with the serious posts, so it's a win anyway.

>>84017944
>Maybe we should have a look at your profile
Not doxxing myself
>Could be literally anywhere of a million places. Not on /r9k/, though lol
No. I live in a notoriously boring place with absolutely nothing to do aside from working
>That means you have wide open doors and lots of options available to you.
What are they? Idk why you only dodge this question. How can i have all lf those supposed options but never have anyone be interested in me

>>84018381
Incidentally, I've had some luck on /r9k/ and /soc/, but never in real life or on dating apps proper.

>>84017975
You're just baiting for (you)s at that point.

>>84018400
Not baiting. I'm 40 and have lived in about 30 countries. Its that easy, just pick up a place you like and go.

>>84018419
Shit trolling attempt.
1/10

>>84018438
Took you long enough to realize that. Loser.

>>84018030
People are pro jew?

>>84018461
I see it on /pol/ and x. Slowly people are turning a blind eye to them. Especially because anti semitism is increasingly seen as browncoded.

>>84015911
It gets exhausting having to defend my virginity from all these raving cock hungry whores but a man is nothing without his purity.

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>>84017907
There's a reason men study history while women fantasize about the future. The past is a really important marker. Only cucks or rock bottom desperate spineless "men" say they don't care about a woman's past.

>>84018815
You should add to this that Chad does not care about a woman's past because he is only interested in using her as a temporary fleshlight. He looks for a virgin when he is ready to settle down though.

>>84017086
Oh really? What if I told you that I have certain proclivities that cannot be fulfilled by women

>>84017136
Yeah bro don't listen to those people they are the same that blame poor people for being poor etc.
One thing I would suggest however is shifting your priorities a bit and being a bit less rigid and more open in your thinking and trying to participate in social activities more for example if there is a University Campus around you can look for posters about sports or cultural events or maybe you can find some open art studio paint workshops or go to a youth hostel and scan the qr code to join their Whatsapp and show up when they do their weekly bar crawl
Stuff like that
It's way more important to just be available and open in the real world and build a social network than to have a full head of hair even believe it or not lol

>>84019120
I am far too old for going to campuses, no?
As I explained before I always try to do social activities though, and I force myself so much that I have mental breakdowns about it because it's obviously not at all in my nature. It doesn't get better over time, just worse. My experience has widely been similar to what other anons itt have explained: it's only old people and men that go. I was invited to a new year's celebration by colleagues (first time in my life) this year and I went, to give one example. The 4 women there were 45+. Everyone else was a man. I didn't go there to find women, but if I did, I would surely have been quite disappointed.
As I said in the post you are replying to, I am way too old for youth hostels, too.
I have tried going to bars but women are never alone there. Actually people are a lot more open here than where I have been in the past decades, and I see for the first time ever men actually try to talk to girls there. But conversely girls are clear they are not there for this.
Nevertheless, there was one girl who nodded at me while I was staring in empty space while enjoying a beer and I tried talking to her. Didn't work well, mostly we had nothing in common and she wasn't interested in pursuing anything. It was mutual honestly.
I have tried the building a social network meme since I was like 14. I still have 0 friends and I don't know anyone who's ever met someone through friends anyway.

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The sole reason why extroverted women think the male loneliness epidemic is self-inflicted is because they don't respect guys they don't deem attractive as human beings and so their plight is ignored at best and ridiculed at worst. That's it. End of thread.

>>84017846
You don't understand a lot of us are playing devils advocate to get the thread going. Many of us don't have real opinions and just want to engage. It's not about good faith.

>>84015911
Okay, what's this stupid image from?

>>84019271
some dating show look up in jew tube
girl was first to start and introduced herself and no guy reciprocated
points for standing up but she kept talking about swimming or adventuring. she not once said what interests men. in a dating show

>>84015911
virginity status?
unironically

>>84019297
>>84019271
Also she found a bf one week after this show because milions of simps slid in her dms

>>84016384
>I don't get this attitude with you guys. What's wrong with being 'good enough' or 'betabucks'?
Where in that guy's post did he say he was the one who wasnt settling. Are you doing what those dumb foids do and blaming men for not being selected, as if they're the ones with options? He's the one who's not good enough

>>84015911
It's possible. In fact is so possible I'm doing it right now and have done so my whole life

>>84018654
Same.. I will keep my dignity from these ravenous skanks

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>>84015911
Where the fuck are all these women? I assure you no woman would ever give me the time of day. If you don't believe me, why not give some real practical advice like where exactly to meet these supposed women actually looking for someone like me instead of this vague bullshit? It's always the same, you never actually prove me wrong, just express how I am "le bad" for my beliefs.

>>84018381
>with absolutely nothing to do aside from working
Sounds like Singapore or Hong Kong, then. Not the easiest places to find romance, for sure.
>What are they?
They are long term options. You got a clear path laid ahead of you. So you know in which end to start. It's incredibly helpful.

>>84018400
Not trolling. That is what traveling is. >>84018419 Like he says, it just comes down to picking a spot you feel happy spending time in.

>>84020098
Congrats on never having left your mom's basement. Come back when you have the faintest clue what travel looks like.

>>84015911
>cute
>respectful
but women find neither attractive

>>84020144
Hmm? But I've been to like 40 countries and lived in 15.

>>84020275
4chan boards don't qualify as countries.