>Character is supposed to be a "lonely loser">Has a friend group and goes on dates
>>84059206Normies dont even have the hint of an idea how it truly feels to be like this. They must think of us as larpers
>>84059225>What do you mean you are just at home all the time? You ring up your friends right?>What you just sit and watch sports and netflix?>What? Don't do that either?
>>84059206We need more shows or movies where the protagonist is truly on their own, no bitch tagging along for the entire thing after the first most peaceful 10 minutes or so, no shitheads calling the protagonist through a radio or whatever, just a lonely loser protagonist left to deal with their problems alone and a goal in mind
>>84059206Chandler Bing in Friends describes himself as "hopeless and awkward and desperate for love" early on. Yet he was part of a tight-knit friend group and had had multiple girlfriends by that point in the series.
>>84059206In all fairness, would you want to watch a show about a guy who does nothing but watch anime and scroll 4chan?
>>84059206Normies love the aesthetic of the unkempt chad who has a bad day sometimes but real mentally ill people are so painful to actually interact with.
>>84059426To be fair did you watch Welcome to the NHK?
>>84059206Its theoretically impossible for humans to be alone willingly. You are here and you are talking to people. You are not alone. You are getting a sense of belonging from it. Some people just do it irl. You could too.
>>84059426It would be boring but relatable.
>>84059540But being among normies is an absolutely miserable experience. I'd rather pluck each individual one of my pubes.
>>84059225Look at what happened during the pandemic. Normies lost their fucking minds at the thought of spending a few weeks living like us. I guess they have some sort of psychological need to interact with other normies to make sure they're fitting in or whatever.
>>84059206The thing is, these "loner" characters are written to be appealing and relatable to normies. If normies saw a character who really has no friends or romantic prospects, their minds would break.
>>84059206this is why watamote is so popular, even if Tomoko is a foid loners can relate to her>>84059426Watamote
>>84059932It's also that Hollywood writers are all turbonormies. They have absolutely no frame of reference for what our lives are like
>>84060111Unfortunately Tomoko has been co-opted by "femcels" who have lots of foid friends and triple digit body counts.
That's why I sided with Adachi in Purse Owner 4.He was the most realistic character in a fantasy world with weird powers.He was also pretty down to earth.
>>84060111Christ almighty that whole show was fucking crushing at times with the panic attack scenes.
Because writers have zero clue how to write actual loners. Look at Welcome to the NHK for example. That'll never happen to an actual neet
This is why I always preferred monsters and demons and dragons as a kid, dinosaurs too but now that I know dinosaurs were just as social as any other animal I retrospectively dislike them for that.
>>84059206>character is supposed to be a "lonely loser">opportunities and friendships fall out of the sky for him
>>84060428If it were realistic, he'd throw away all those opportunities in paranoia and, years later, regret everything.
>>84059426You could make a show about someone going on adventures by themselves.
>>84059540My dream is to live innawoods like a hermit and survive completely self sustained with no outside contact.Some people actually do live like this and survive.
>>84059536Did you? The protagonist is blessed with a girl and a male friend right off the bat, and everything happens around them.
>>84059426It does not necessarily have to be about a perma online guy. The dude from the climber manga starts off with finding a friend group but then it slowly progresses into his ever increasing isolation and said friend group unravelling
>>84060445I want to live like that too. Problem is you might get Ruby Ridged
I regularly go full weekends without ever leaving my apartment, because I'm happiest when I'm alone and everything's quiet. I don't think normies are capable of even coming close to doing that. One day without interaction with and social approval from their fellow normies and they'd go crazy. I guess disconnection from the hivemind is bad for them.
>>84061370Do normies not stay at home during weekends? What?
I was part of a normie friend group a few times back in school. It was awful. We'd always go out and do shit I didn't want to do and I was always afraid to mention my interests around them because I knew they'd alienate me for it.
>>84059206This is what pisses me off about Evangelion. Shinji is supposedly a loser. However, he:>has multiple friends>has girls interested in him>is employed>lives away from parents>has talents>isn't autistic or socially awkward
>>84059206Media is made for the masses. Most people who identify with being a lonely loser are normies clinging to an aesthetic. So of course the lonely loser has friends, gets laid and/or has a gf. The actual lonely losers are too few in numbers to pander to and normies don't find them relatable.
The Big Bang Theory is about "socially outcast nerds" yet they're all friends with each other, they all date multiple women throughout the series, and three of them end up married to super hot women. The closest character to us is probably Stuart, and even then he runs a successful business and has a hot girlfriend by the end of the series.
>>84061568the big bang theory is not a fucking documentary retard its a tv show and its biggest and only goal is to get more viewers and moneynot a single person would watch a 12 season sitcom about a bunch of chud incels who never even leave their house or do anything even remotely interesting
Does anyone know of anything that prominently features a character who's an actual outcast? Like, genetic dead end, no real friends, zero romantic life, hobbies and interests all scare normies away?
>>84061626Anything that features such a character would probably end with them being "fixed" by turning into a normie and having everything that makes them unique stripped away.
>>84060434I even do this with the little things. Someone tries to talk to me about something and I will schizo out and act distant because my brain convinces me that they will think I look weird being too engaged in the discussion with them.
>>84061540I told people I dont listen to music because I was embarrassed but now I really want to talk about the music I listen to.
>>84061725I haven't told anyone IRL that I listen to video game music.
>>84059206>everyone refers to NEET incels as "failure to launch" males>actually watch the movie>it's about a guy who lives in his rich parents' house, brings chicks over to fuck when they're some so they get the ick and he can keep on being a player and working at family owned yacht repair business.
The reason I struggle with friendship and dating is because masking my personality to be socially acceptable is so exhausting. Maybe if I found people I didn't have to mask around, I'd be more sociable.
>>84060439Actually yeah, why aren't there more shows like that? It would save money to only have one main cast member.
>>84059536>>84060469i feel like Welcome to the NHK was clever about this. there WERE other characters that were straightforward shut-ins, living with their parents and playing games all day. but Satou was chill and self-aware, he was wise to Misski's bullshit. at the end of the day, the way the world is set up is the problem. you could give some turbo-autist complete control over the economy and he'd figure out how to make NEETs comfy, but that's not the world we live in.
>>84060439>You could make a show about someone going on adventures by themselves.Relatable
>>84061551>However, he:Ok that's funny.
>>84061990>maskingI never understood this, just be your eccentric whackadoodle self
>>84062566But nobody wants to me friends with the real me
>>84062566I always think it's funny when normies say 'just b urself' when in reality they find eccentric people being themselves excruciatingly intolerable since they don't adhere to the norms they were indoctrinated into. Normies trule are the women of social groups.
>>84064313I sometimes wonder if normies do what they do because they like it or because they feel they need to. Like drinking, smoking, gossiping, having casual sex, cheating on their partners, wasting their precious free time on loitering outside and partying, etc.I can't imagine living like this, but maybe it's immature of me to think I'm above it and need to suck it up and join them.
>>84064313"Just be yourself" only works for normies. Most of us realized that at a young age when we noticed that all of the "weird" characters in stories with a "be yourself" message are just normies with one or two unusual traits.
>>84059206this is why I couldn't get past the first couple episodes of mr. robot
>>84064333>I sometimes wonder if normies do what they do because they like it or because they feel they need toIt's even more sinister than that, anon. These normies have begrudgingly convinced themselves that they actually like going to some shitty club every friday and saturday night to (hopefully) grind on the asses of drunk strangers, pay tons of cash to coma chug and forget it all a day later because the moment they feel like they don't really want to do that the 'group' will ostracize them for getting out of line. Normgroid social conventions are cultish as hell and everyone seemingly thinks it's normal.
>>84064333It's both. They like doing those things because they like getting approval and validation from their fellow normies.
>>84064352Because those characters are meant to appeal to slightly unusual normies, not actual outcast weirdos like you and me.
The Amazing World of Gumball had a segment of one of the vignette episodes where all of the characters sang a song that went "nobody's a nobody, and everybody is weird like you and me." The problem is, the only "weird" thing about most characters in that show is their designs. 99% of them are turbonormies. The only real outcasts are Sussie (who's a tard) and Rob (who was literally deemed a "mistake" by the world for not fitting in)
>>84060111Tomoko has friends though
>>84064365I'm so glad I decided to stop participating in that nonsense.
I know this comic has been memed to death but this is seriously how it feels being around normies.
I unironically cannot relate to fictional characters that have sex, girlfriends, or wives.I can't even stomach harem or romance aspects.
>>84065148Friends? She has a full blown yuri harem.
>>84064052>>84064313>when normies say 'just b urself'I'm an autist, so there is not even a possibility of pretending to be normal, feigning normalcy is so obviously a front that it looks cringey and feels sociopathic. Giving zero fucks about what people think scares off the pretentious normies living through layers of their own social masks, resonates with other people who live with authenticity, but most importantly means I carry zero emotional baggage cause there is nobody I"m trying to impress, and largely indifferent to insults or praise since it feels liek they're directed towards some imaginary character they invented rather than "the real me" which is unaffected by others perceptions and projections.
>>84064313"Just be yourself" works for normies because they're normies. They fit in by default just being themselves.
>>84059206The chat site I like to troll on fucking triggered ME today because some girl had "incel" as her status and in her bio had "single, not looking to date so please don't dm". WTF AAAAAAA
What's important to understand is that normies literally have no way of knowing what it's like to actually struggle with making friends or getting into relationships. It's just something that happens for them. Even for the "unusual" normies it's still largely effortless.
Stop masking. Stop making yourself presentable for normies. You owe them nothing.
>>84059255>How do you manage to survive without constant affirmation and validation in exchange for conforming to a certain set of behaviors?
I'd like to see a piece of media, like a miniseries or a short novel, where the hero is a robot NEET with no friends and no gf and just struggles with his shitty day to day life but then opportunities strike to get a job he doesn't hate, find a group of friends who like him for who he is and a potential love interest and... he fucks everything up, the whole thing just crumbles to the ground and everything culminates with the hero killing himself
>>84061412Normies barely exist when not in the presence of other normies.
Phoebe Buffay from Friends:>Supposed to be a weirdo>Part of a close friend group >Has a very active dating life>On top of all that, she's a foid, so she's incapable of deviating too much from the normie hivemind.
>>84059206>le lonely weirdo >woman trying to hump his leg in first episode
I wouldn't be such an asocial shut-in if normies weren't so fucking insufferable to be around.
>>84059206media still has to be entertaining. if normies saw how truly pathetic a truecel's life is, they'd all rope and say why was i shown a tragedy? i was promised -insert other genre here-
>>84059826normal human beings (homo sapiens) want to, enjoy, and are capable of interacting with each other, even to point of achieving sex sometimes. we truecels are less than dirt. unworthy to even be called humans. we dont deserve to be alive
>>84067198On the contrary. We've ascended beyond being slaves to our primal desires to be around others and have sex.
>>84067295no we havent. for all of humanity's talk of intelligence and enlightenment, we're still just a bunch of violent horny hairless apes. humanity is shit and you know it. otherwise why is war still a thing? why cant we all just get along?
>>84060396based to hell and back
>>84067361I'm not talking about humanity in general, I'm talking about outcasts like us. We don't fit in with normies because we're beyond them.
Normies consider sex a normal part of everyday life. The thought of being a virgin is comically absurd to them.
>>84059206In reality the friend group has one mid tier Becky trying to turn it into her fanclub.
>>84068008It was really eye-opening to realize that normies' idea of a bad romantic life was constantly going on bad dates. They don't even consider the idea of never going on dates at all. It's completely out of the question for them.
>>84059206Welcome to NHK?
i have watched a lot and arthur fleck was the only character i have seen that's actually relateable no wonder the jews had to rape him
>>84068231I find it funny how they had to intentionally butcher his character in the sequel because he was too relatable to actual outcasts and they didn't want the "wrong" kind of people liking the movie.
>>84068258Incels are the most oppressed minority.
>>84068118Doesn't the main character of that get friends early on?
>>84059206This is why I can't watch Bocchi the Rock. It's been, what 3 and a half years since it aired? Still can't finish the first episode.She has big tits, is attractive, mad skills with the guitar, young, in a band full of quirky friends and I'm supposed to believe this girl is a "loser" because she gets spergs out sometimesWhat a joke. Normalfags love it tho
Rough paraphrase of an actual conversation I had with my parents at some point:>Parents: "You can't just lock yourself in your room all the time and never interact with anyone!">Me: "Well why not?">...>Parents: "You just can't!"
>>84068061To be fair I'd rather go on no dates than bad dates. I'm much happier alone in my apartment than I would be buying an expensive dinner for some foid only for her to never call me again.
>>84059206Yea, me robot. Lonely miserable guy who happens to fuck his cute drug dealing next door neighbor in the first episode
>>84059225This is exactly it. They think we surely must have some close friends or some sort of romantic life.
>>84062566>>84064313tbf there's a world of difference between an eccentric person and your average 4chan anon who watches anime, is egotistical af, has no friends or gf, no social skills and plain, boring fashion sense
>>84068678>>because this wont lead to us getting grandkids. i brought you into this world specifically to help continue MY bloodlineit is no longer your bloodline. it is no longer your choice. it ends with me
>>84068590watamote>bochhi>komi-sanalso in terms of beautyKomi-san>bochhi>tomokohmmmm
>>84068008>show about loser nerds>they all end up in relationships>even the jeet who literally cant talk to women unless he is drunk>>noooo they brought on girls to appeal to the female nerdy watchers!is that why only one of the foids is a nerd? and she isnt even that nerdy compared to the boys, she's just smart and socially awkward>>b-but the whole point is that anyone can be a nerd even if they dont look it!is that why penny never once tried getting into ANY of their hobbies? Did she even have any of her own?
>>84059225Normies wouldn't last a week in an incel's shoes.
>>84070186I can't believe my father used to watch this shit. Although, he did stop once he found out the actor who plays Sheldon was a faggot.
>>84070165Extremely direWas going to contest that I hate tomoko and she's terrible as is her media but then I saw what you were comparing her toIt's very weird how literally the shittiest media gets focused on and all the rest gets ignored to be spammed off of /a/ with thirdworlders spamming about some shounenshit (which used to be banned)
>>84070165The Slow Start mc mogs the fuck out of all these girls
