Being a femcel and being able to have sex isn't necessarily contradictory. There's a big difference to moids between "a hole's a hole" and "someone to love or be seen with in public." Femcels in these situations are used for sex and immediately ushered out once the guy gets his rocks off, it's dehumanizing and not at all the same as having someone who cares about you, especially as a sub5 woman living in a world full of beautiful women.
>>84065347>There's a big difference to moids between "a hole's a hole" and "someone to love or be seen with in public." We don't have either, so shut up
>>84065347>me and my femcel gf being seen in public and not give a damn because we just love each other
>>84065347>>84065483Nobody knows what the term celibate means anymore I guess huh?
>>84065347fake ass fuck "fem" """cel""">t. actual femcel
all these meme terms heavily betray themselvesthe vast majority of people who are celibate are that way because of lack of human connection, not lack of wet hole availabilityalso many outspoken "in" "cels" are vindictive narcissists angry they're not getting what they believe they are entitled to (free and easy sex at a moment's notice from attractive partners) and so they design endless rhetoric to try and blame shift to the other side rather than looking inwards and wondering why they are so spiritually and psychologically lackingthe romantic period has ended for most of western society and we have entered a utilitarian sexual society, but people who are romantically minded are hurt by this. There's no word for this, so you get to be lumped in with the narcissists.
>>84065523All women can get used for sex by desperate moids just by downloading a "dating" app. That doesn't mean a relationship is attainable as a sub5 woman. The last thing a moid wants is to be associated with a sub5 woman in day to day life.
>>84065347Then use the term lovcel.You cannot be a femcel if you have sex. Most men here wish they could be dehumanized by a woman, and they would benefit from it as you have. To finally realize sex is not the goal but love.t. incel
>>84065347if you have sex you are not a celibate, not a 'femcel', is that hard to comprehend you retard?
>>84065347can u be my femcel gf than, no sex
>>84065615>>84065615>That doesn't mean a relationship is attainable as a sub5 woman.It is if you give me the chance. But you have already poisoned your perception with dating apps and do not believe me.
>>84065523Im sure i wouldnt fuck you even if you wanted to fuck me. That makes me a volcel but I admit it: I will not fuck the plaphog
>>84065615>All women can get used for sexNo they can't. Maybe most, the vast majority, but not all. The existence of actual femcels even if an extreme minority, automatically invalidate this fake ass description of "femcels"
hello femcels i got these pretty flowers for you because i think youre pretty please love me
>>84065347no such thing as a femcel. post your dating app results and we can see the results if you're able to get a quick fuck or not. JUST BECAUSE YOU CANT FIND LOVE DOESNT MAKE YOU A FEMCEL. WOMEN CANT BE INVOLUNTARY CELIBATE
>>84065347Look i think the way to look at this is that, there is moids who will have sex and ditch, there is moids who will have none of it, and then there is moids who will genuinely stick around. But you got the same for girls. Both sides have losers and eternal virgins and mentally ill fucks who are undateable (that's my category).I only went to highschool for 2.5 years, but i noticed very directly that girls dated these obvious fuckboy partyanimal moids thinking this is their forever man, when it was literally obvious on first glance that this guy wants nothing but 3-4 months of fucking and partying with you, and then he is dumping you for the next girl who will let him do Anal.Just don't try to date a guy when it's obvious on first glance he wants to pump and dump. I know we will try to lie to ourselves that he is not that, but he is. First impression is almost always the correct one. Listen to your gut on it.Or ignore my advice because i'm probably the worst person to give dating or sex advices to anyone since i'm literally physically incapable of touching a man kek...
>>84066979>physically incapable of touching a manwhy? can't interact with the physical world? myrtle warren?
>>84067000i have disability level neurotic SPD (Schizoism).
>>84066979>i'm literally physically incapable of touching a man kek...autoimmune disease?
>>84066979this, no more needs to be said
>>84067053>>84067018Nevermind you're just another liar
>>84067018i don't see how that makes you incapable of touching others. what's wrong with it?
>>84067053>>84067063>>84067070Basically, i can't handle being around people. Hearing their voices is like razorblades in my ears, like sandpaper on my brain. It causes me genuine discomfort and internal pain, weather it's real pain or mental phantom pain, it feels very real, and my reaction to it when i can't handle it anymore is trying to make it stop in any way possible, which sometimes manifests through an angry outburst. It's not voluntary, my brain is just chaotically trying to stop that noise from happening, and so it just makes me do something, anything it can to try and make it stop. Same goes for physical contact. There are some people who can i mildly tolerate, but for most physical touch also just sends me into an outburst where i just do whatever to get away, because touching me feels like if you spilled acid on me. I had sex once in my life, when i was heavily drunk and was given some drugs by a guy, and even then i can tell you, it was horrible.So yeah basically i just can't handle human interactions which is why i'm on disability. Kinda why i'm on 4chan at 1 in the morning, not like i got a job to get up to in the morning.
>>84067107I see, that is different. I saw your post in another thread. You have my sympathies. I would advise you to avoid posting so much information about yourself as you have no obligation to.There will be anons who will use your confession to suggest very crude things.
>>84067107>>84067121I also apologize for calling you a liar. That was unfair and only me taking out my own frustration.
>>84065347Some guys don't even get that and they have to read this gay shit
>>84067121>>84067129It's all good. About not posting so much about myself... i dunno to me it's kinda whatever. You gotta realize the internet is basically a hail marry for me, because i'm not talking to people, but reading text on a screen, i can actually talk and interact with someone other than my Dad, and it feels nice, whatever the actual conversation might be.Another thing is, i really don't have much to look forward to, so i don't give much crap about oversharing. I'm 21, i spend my days rotting in my room, i'm a NEET on disability, which is likely not going to change for years if ever, unless i get some home office job that doesn't require talking to people someday... like there really isn't anything interesting about me, i don't spend my time well, so really i don't have a problem with it. And it's 4chan, ofc i expect to be told to kill myself for being a foid, but i can always just ctrl W and check diffirent thread.
dumbass femoids pretending to be femcels when Im here ready to give them dick
>>84066583Those are poisonous, you fucktard
>>84065347i do not care how humilating it is you cant find a relationship. we already had a word for that. you're not a """femcel""" you're a spinnster.Femcel = Female Involuntary CelibateFemale = Adult human with XX pairs of chromosomesInvoluntary = against your will, unable to control itCelibate = not having sexyou stupid cunt haver. get off my male incel board. female incels aren ot welcome here
>>84067296>dumbass femoids pretending to be femceIs when Im here ready to give them dick
>>84067325nice selfie sis, this is why you cant find a decent looking guy
>>84067313>male incel boardThis is the robot board not the incel board. You're supposed to whine about society as a whole, not your own sexless bullshit
>>84067163> I'm 21, i spend my days rotting in my room, i'm a NEET on disability, which is likely not going to change for years if everI am 30 and have done this for the past 16 years. It is tolerable for longer than you think.>like there really isn't anything interesting about me, i don't spend my time well, so really i don't have a problem with it.I am in the same boat here too. But my warning was intended for you to avoid lolcow level harassment, not simply anons telling you to kys. You can share a fair amount here, and what you said ITT is fine but the other thread? I would keep some of that private to DM's if you socialize outside of anonymous boards.
>>84065615>The last thing a moid wants is to be associated with a sub5 woman in day to day lifeyou know nothing of men. many would be happy to have literally any one, but they are invisible to you because you're either chad only and/or so brainwashed by feminism you think the gender, that has literally gone to war because of the promise of pussy, doesnt want pussy
>>84067335what do you think robots are you absolutely silly billy?
>>84067335women cant complain about society
>>84067331No need to get offended kek
>>84067360no one is offended by your selfie, I mog you
>>84067339Ahh, i think i know what you are reffering to. Yeah i guess understandable. In my mind the logic was opposite. Best to share on an anonymous board, than in DMs with a person with whom i'm actively trying to hold a more personal conversation. But i guess both has it's dangers. Dunno i just feel like when i talk on here, i have almost no restraints, because when i talk to some people on discord and shit, i have to censor myself pretty heavily to not say shit that will get me witch hunted.
>>84067369Why are you so mad den
>>84067414no mad just mogging you
>>84067397That's fair and i can't argue with the logic either. It's a bit of a balance with either platforms how much you reveal.
>>84068012Well as long as THE PERSON isn't on 4chan for whatever reason and doesn't figure out it's actually ME talking about that, realizing i'm even more mentally ill than he already knows, i think we are gucci.I genuinely cannot imagine what he would think if he read that shit i wrote. Like i'm already an absolute trainwreck, and he still loves me despite that, and is happy to have me at his home. This would just be like dropping a second nuke. Like hitting the second tower.
Are there any femcels that aren't fat? I want to marry one
>>84067310i was just trying to sweet why are you so mean
>>84068369Yeah i'm the opposite, i was morbidly starving and i'm still not really all the way to a healthy BMI, but my Doctor says i'm doing good progress.
>>84068385Would you ever consider marrying a robot?
>>84065347>Being a femcel and being able to have sex isn't necessarily contradictoryYes because it's contradictoey to the entire word and definition.If you can have sex there is nothing involuntarily celibate about you.Sorry. You are a fakecel.
>>84068382im so fucking sorry for being rude. I am actually trying while tying this. Im fucking sorry anon
>>84065347>femcel>female incel>female involentarily celebate>Femcels in these situations are used for sex and immediately ushered out once the guy gets his rocks off, it's dehumanizing and not at all the same as having someone who cares about you, especially as a sub5 woman living in a world full of beautiful women.Yeah, but that's not what incel means. You can still have sex whenever you want without serious consequences to doing so like aids, so by definition you're not an incel. That said, there are other problems to have than getting sex. You can be a lonely woman for legitimate reasons.
>>84068153>I genuinely cannot imagine what he would think if he read that shit i wrote. Like i'm already an absolute trainwreck, and he still loves me despite that, and is happy to have me at his home.They would still love you, that's the way it is, but it will definitely get weird. Why i'm suggesting not to bring it up on here, because other anons will try convince you to act and claim things that likely aren't realistic about what to expect if they ever did find out.
>>84068397Likely not. I'm diagnosed neurotic schizoid, so far there is exactly 1 person in the world whos voice or touch doesn't send me into a violent outburst, and that's my Dad, so unless you were somehow within my brains tolerance, or they develop new meds that completely make this go away, it's a no, sorry. Unless you want a wife that you can't ever touch and you can't be around her long and you can't speak around her. Then sure.
>>84068421just look at the pretty orchids and be happy asshole
>>84068432No worries, i'm not stupid enough to jump off of a bridge just cuz a 4chan annon says there is a pot of gold at the bottom of the river. It's not like i want to act up on it myself. I'm deeply ashamed about having those feelings or sometimes getting those fantasies.
>>84068433Is there anything in particular that sets you off or is it just someone else's presence.
>>84068443Don't be ashamed either. There's a few ways to look at it realistically>You don't control feelings>You can and do control actions>It might pass and you aren't a worse person for it>It might not pass and it's still not in your controlSo shame is not really appropriate in my opinion. Even if you act privately, by yourself, that is not something that is bad per se.
>>84068457Well thanks for the insight, i still don't feel proud about this being inside my brain tho. But who knows maybe time heals it. Or i will get more and more mentally ill and i will just become so insane that it won't bother me anymore. >>84068448Mostly just the presence. When the person is reasonably close. Hearing them speak, worse if speaking to me. And physical contact.Basically imagine if everytime you hear another persons voice IRL (somehow this doesn't hit as hard when watching a youtube video where someone speaks, weird isn't it?), anytime you hear another persons voice IRL, replace the voice you are hearing with a sound of a rusted metal fork scratching a foiled metalic plate. And you hear this inside your brain. And it hurts. Phantom pain or real pain, idk, but you can feel it, and it sends you into a violent response where your brain just screams >DO ANYTHING TO MAKE IT STOP, MAKE THAT NOISE STOP OR JUST STOP HEARING IT JUST DO FUCKING SOMETHING MAKE THIS STOPAnd obviously this results in a loss of full control, and the result is just bare primal responses. Violent swinging, screaming, running away, fight or flight etc. Worst outbursts were honestly the ones back in school, when i couldn't handle hearing the teacher anymore and i would just spazm down to the floor, curl up into a ball and just scream at the top of my lungs to drown out the noise of their voices. As you can imagine, i was not a popular gucci girl in my school years.
>>84068485I'm sorry that does seem really awful. The medication doesn't help with it at all? I wonder if it's just only people you can fully trust like your dad.
>>84068435>AI imageYou couldn't even give me effort, anon. I am still fucking crying while typing this
>>84068507well i guess im just a failure and i cant even give girls flowers without fucking up
>>84068519It's ok anon, get them for yourselfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkSSOGNeWTM
>>84068485>Well thanks for the insight, i still don't feel proud about this being inside my brain tho.Difference in being proud and being ashamed. It might go away and it might not but it is what it is. Nobody really controls feelings too much.
>>84068527I clicked on it and the first ad i get is an ad for some supplement that helps premature ejaculation
>>84068538>some supplement that helps premature ejaculation...maybe get those for yourself too
>>84068493The medication helps, tones it down a bit, helps me be able to go buy groceries or ride a bus without having a full breakdown and just light discomfort, and i listen to very loud music most of the time to try and drown out people as much as i can.It's not really about people you trust, because my mom also wasn't excluded from this. Here is a good metaphore that i was told by the Psychiatrist, which actually explains it really well.Imagine your head as a movie theater. The seats in that theater represent your social battery. You got your seats reserved for family. Another row of seats for close friends. And then a lot of rows reserved for people you have to deal with, coworkers, classmates, random people. When all seats are full, you start feeling discomfort, your social battery is drained, you are being overstimulated socially. That kinda thing. Now me, my theater has 1 chair, maybe 2. And my Dad is permanently seated in one of those chairs.I was told by the psychiatrist that this is very common. That people with my type of schizoism latch onto 1 family member, usually one of the parents, sometimes both if lucky, or on a sibling. She said that it's good that i don't have the sibling kind, because usually if that happens, the person is very cold and unloving towards the parents, and very chronically attached to the sibling, which causes issues, such as turning into a stalker or just trying to interfere with their life. In my case, basically my Dad is the only person towards whom i'm capable of feeling love or honestly any affection what so ever. His voice doesn't sound like an airhorn into my ear, his touch isn't sandpaper to my skin, it's just comforting. If i was raised by a single mom, the attachment would likely happen to her. I hope this kinda clears up how it usually works.
>>84068547i dont even have that problem fuck youtube
>>84065347>"most contradictory statement ever">"this isn't contradictory""femcels", which don't exist, have to invent a new definition of inceldom which excludes lack access to sex as a requirement because they're false claim falls apart otherwise
>>84068577Do you have any hobbies you hyper fixate on? Creative pursuits? Topics you try to learn everything about?
>>84068870Drawing. Trying to get good at it. Might draw porn in the future too, not decided on it yet. Also sewing. Id like to maybe one day make some personalized clothing or something. It just seems like such a fun and rewarding thing to do, even if i have like nowhere to wear it. I could at least show it to my Dad and hope he would like how it looks.
>>84068577I never knew it was that severe. That sounds extremely frustrating and painful. I hope they're eventually able to get some new meds that help give you some relief.
>>84068926Thanks, but as i said somewhere before, i genuinely think that the evil sibling of SPD, the infamous BPD, is a lot worse, so i guess i take comfort in the fact i lucked out on not having the more potent hydrogen bomb dropped on me.While me, i'm forced into Isolation, the BPDs crave and fear abandonment, and go out there and do all kinds of crazy bullshit just to get their fix. I genuinely feel like it's the worse option.But yeah it is pretty severe. As everything, schizoism has diffirent kinds, and diffirent levels of how severe it is. Mine, neurotic schizoism, is one of the bad ones, because its very severe with violent and neurotic outbursts as the result of overwhelming, with hairthin tolerance before that state is reached. Makes day to day life in a populated world very difficult, hence why i'm on legal disability and can't work. The thing is, i can't tell if it's frustrating lonelinesswise, because apart from my Dad, i never wanted anyone around me, so i can't tell what i'm "missing", but i do feel the loneliness creep up obviously, i just don't exactly know what the opposite feeling feels like. Also obviously getting horny sucks, because all i really do is i goon my brain out, not like i can have sex with anyone, consensually and without it feeling like torture. Except for 1 person and obviously that person does not come in question.Who knows, maybe my insanity scales down a bit later in life, or they make up some new meds or surgery to just cut it out of my head. One can hope.
>>84065347You'll be fine. Get over yourself.
>>84069013So talking with people online over text doesn't bother you at all right? Does having online friends to talk to help with your potential loneliness or make you happy at all?
>>84068433>a wife that you can't ever touch>you can't be around her long>you can't speak around her.You were made for e-dating.
>>84069276I guess but not feeling it with anyone rn. Talked to a bunch of people on discord and still not really developing any lovey feelings towards anyone. The most hilarious thing was when a guy on discord thought that i misspelled BPD when i said i have SPD, so he tried to use the mental tricks that work on BPD girls. It was hilarious how angry he got when they didn't work, because like i'm not desperate for attention or afraid of abandonment, i'm the opposite.>>84069114Talking with people online doesn't bother me, no. Because i'm not talking to people in the sense that matters to my brain, you are just text on my screen. Having online friends i guess kinda helps with the loneliness because i have someone to talk to in a way, but while it does make me happy, as i said i'm not developing any lovey feelings towards anyone. I still wouldn't want any of the people who are my friends to show up at my doorstep, or talk to me IRL when randomly seeing me in a grocery store, or touch me in anyway.
>>84069352Do you ever long for love at all despite not feeling it? Or is it still just wanting to be alone and filling the gap with online friends and your dad for the most part.
>>84069393Well the thing is, it's not like i'm incapable of love. That's a diffirent disorder. I'm fully capable of loving someone, being sexually attracted to someone, wanting and desiring someone. Those things all work up there in the ol' noggin. I just can't stand anyone, so i can't develop those feelings for anyone, because the only thing i want when they talk to me or even exist near me is to dissapear so my brain stops screaming internally.I still am very capable of developing all the wants and needs, as i explained earlier with the theather seats metaphore, i just don't have any seats to sit those people in, to "let them near me" so to say. Same reason probably why i developed my extremely unhealthy attraction and crush on my Dad. Not because i'm some degen incestoid, just because he is the only person so far whom i managed to sit in that Theather. I'm not planning to ever act up on those feelings, just saying, i still have them, just hard to develop them for anyone.
>>84069483That makes sense. I wasn't sure if your brain still held those wants and desires or if it was so offput by people that it kinda cut them out. I wish there was a way you were able to fit more people in your life. I'm glad you were at least able to find something that somewhat works for you in the meantime.
>>84069521I mean yeah talking to people on 4chan and discord, and gooning for hours a day probably isn't the healthiest way to spend my adulthood, but it's what i'm doing for now and i'm kinda alright, so i guess until there is an option to change this, it's just going to be this.
>>84065347oh my god shut up nice ragebait. you think moids fuck girls they love too? or get into relationships with girls they fuck? no, we get into relationships (if we can get into relationships) with girls that like us and we at least are somewhat attracted to and like. we dont get with girls we love, they are out of our league. but i am speaking for myself. most moids cant even get laid. and u can. ur not a femcel, ur a slut
>>84069644Do you want any more friends or are you already at your limit?
>>84069671Well i don't really want more people off-site, i can barely keep in touch with the few people i got on discord, i already had to scale down because it was too much. My social capacity still isn't extraordinarily good.But i rot here on 4chan often, and i always use my custom name, so you can talk to me if you see me pop up somewhere, i don't mind.
>>84069847I figured as much. That's okay, hopefully I see you around now and then. I really hope you're able to find more relief from your condition.
>>84069873Please don't take it like some kind of a rejection like "stupid foid of course she doesn't want to be friends". While being chronically online is good for me because talking to walls of text instead of people let's me work around my schizoism, i'm still terrible at socializing and keeping my attention split among more than a handful of people, and even then i'm probably not a great friend in general.I'll be glad to talk to you anytime you have anything you wanna know, i always use my name Anonymouse nowdays, because i like mouses :3 so yeah if you see that, it's me.
>>84065541>everyone I don't like is a narcissist >retarded quote by KantThe only thing worse than simps are pseudo-intellectual who can't engage with material reality. Western women have become polygamous whores who are wedded to the state at birth, constantly playing fuck-fuck games with their top 20 simps on social media, and have decided their suitors need to be in the top 20% of the financial, educational, social brackets of their relative communities to be even considered worth being stolen from (free meals, cars, vacations, and eventual divorce-rape). Retards like yourself ought to just keep their mouths shut. It's unbelievable you have the temerity to write such garbage.
>>84069905It's okay, I'm not upset at you. It's simply my selfish desire to make a lonely/sad femanon happy.
>>84069995It's okay, i'm not really sad because of being lonely yet, i'm guessing that will hit later in a couple years. For now i'm actually kinda enjoying where i'm, i don't have to work, i'm locked in my room safe from everyone and i get disability checks, don't have to go to school either anymore. The 2.5 years of high school was already more than what i should have undergone anyway. If i desperately want some company, i just watch a movie with my Dad or something. So far i'm relatively fine loneliness-wise, i'm mostly sad and unhappy about being mentally ill, it's not poggers wholesome chungus at all. And also not exactly happy about my unhealthy attraction and crush. But loneliness still has some time before that becomes a source of depression, i'm guessing.Either way, even if you were my next door neighbour, you probably wouldn't be able to make me happy, because your voice and your touch would send me into a ragefilled spiral. Not trying to be mean, just what would happen. Defective brain can't really be turned on or off sadly.
You teach men how to treat you I've only ever done the quick home hookups with men because I had 15 other ones on my roster (no regrets, my hoe era was so fun). Actually found it annoying how many insisted on going on fake-o dates to bars and shit first or cuddling for a long time afterwards. I easily separate sex and dating, if I just want you for sex you've gotta really make an effort to jog me into considering you dating material. I act different and proceed differently. My bf I am with right now I thought was just going to be a hookup but he started wooing me like crazy, made it easy to accept his advances. If he finds you hot you really just have to say yes or no to stuff. I don't fuck or date men that don't find me hot the moment men start any negging shit even about my personality I get pissed and get rid of them
>>84065347boo fucking hoo, you poor fucking cunthope you die alone
>>84070090I'm glad that your dad is still taking good enough care of you and providing you company when you need it. I understand that, it's just sad that it's so rare for anyone else to be able to help you.
>>84070156Yep... but honestly at least it's not something i developed later in life, because i imagine if i at some point was good at socializing and then just suddenly went tardmode, it would be a lot worse. I don't miss it because i never had it or knew what it feels like. Makes it at least a little better.
>>84065347good goy, you must absolutely NOT reproducewhite men are le evil racists but if you must reproduce, choose BBC
>>84070203It probably would be a lot harder losing something then being bitter and resentful from no longer having it. Still, I'm hoping you're able to experience sometime in the near future.
>>84070115this has to be bait but you sound like you have an awful personality, not to mention you are in the lowest tier of women because of the amount of guys you have slept with. reading stuff like this makes me glad I dumped 2 of my (now ex) gfs when I found out they lied about their body count. women like that dont deserve to be in a happy relationship.ive said it before and ill say it again and i hope anons listen to my advice.no hymen; no diamond.
>>84070309Go have your mantrum somewhere else kek
>yeah im le hecking schizo>also i can ride the bus and go buy groceriesI cant even do that, fake ass attention whore
>>84070388Well not without incidents. I can ride the bus and go buy groceries because i play loud music and mostly look into the ground while i walk, and i had many outbursts in both grocery stores, and buses, and almost any public places i regularly go to at least once.Also i want to note, i go grocery shopping for myself like, maybe once per week or 2 weeks. Most of the time my Dad does the shopping and just asks me to write him a list of what i need. I just sometimes like to feel like i would be able to function on my own, or i don't want him to have to spend his money on food for me and i want to buy some with my own money. Also i heavily avoid the bus if possible.
>>84070318why is there used goods replying to me?
>>84065347What does a woman know about love? In your mind it only exists to serve you.>>84067107We live in a society where sex is so important, wars are being fought over it, humans are being exploited, hurt for it, suicides are happening because it's unattainable, that even with every fiber in your body fighting against it, you still did it. Congratulations.>>84070115>You teach men how to treat you>proceeds to prostitute herself and dates her favorite customer
>>84070546>writes entire paragraph blogposting about your dating life for no reason>shut up retard>WHY ARE YOU REPLYING TO MEthe male intellect folks
>>84070476yeah youre jus an attention whore, I cant do basic simple shit everyone does, I can barely hold down a job or even go to grocery store. Youre just a lazy narcissist who wants to spend her entire day blogging to a bunch of simps
