but i heard all women were bitches and whores who only care about stealing my money and semen?

>>84086735
they want a guy who has similar interests but is also a Chad

>>84086735
>women who are nerdy or whatever it is you want dont want a guy whos obsessed with going to the gym or whatever other normie shit
I have only been here for a week but when i asked women here what they wanted their man to look like they all said they wanted muscles, not fat. Some said skinny, and all said tall.
Normies are not obsessed with going to the gym OP. Most do not go at all.

>>84086756
>I have only been here for a week

>>84086735
>>84086747
Nerdy women want a variant of "Chad", they want the male with the highest perceived value/status. I have been in various nerdy hobbies and circles for longer than a lot of posters here have been alive, and girls ALWAYS gravitate towards alpha nerds. The "alpha nerd" is typically above average to VERY tall in height (6' to 6'8") and extremely extroverted, with very low inhibition and a few "presentable" talents (maybe speaks an extra language, plays an instrument).

>>84086756
"Nerdy" women, typically, want extremely tall, skinny men with enormous penises. They basically want a pornographic version of Spencer Reid from Criminal Minds.

>>84086735
Nerdier women just want nerdy chad, just like nerdy guys want nerdy stacy.

>>84086761
Yes. I ignored /r9k/ for the past 16
If you are a woman i'd like to ask you about your ideal man?

>>84086768
i shouldve specified because a lot of nerdy women are just normies in disguise

>>84086790
why, are you doing a survey or something? there is enough information about ideal partners in the archives as is. there was a massive thread just the other night.

>>84086819
>there is enough information about ideal partners in the archives as is.
I will look but i'm sure you can't search them.
>there was a massive thread just the other night.
I'm not sure i can trust those threads.

>>84086829
search is a basic function of all external archives.
>I'm not sure i can trust those threads.
then you would trust me, a random anon in a thread, or any other answer why?

>>84086735
Non-normie women are rare as FUCK compared to weirdo men

>>84086861
it's not that they are inherently rare, it's just that society actively tries to push the envelope so that they are not seen as weird.

>>84086810
Sure, but you're just kicking the can further down the road.
Ok, now remove all the "nerdy women" who are just larping normies. How many truly nerdy women are left? Not enough to go around for all the truly nerdy men who want them, that's for sure.
So who among the truly nerdy men get the truly nerdy women? The top 10-20% of them.
So the conclusion is ultimately the same.

>>84086895
why don't any of you define what you consider a nerdy man or woman to be so we don't have to hash out the recycled fake gamer girl in black lensless frames conversation from ten years ago

>>84086919
Nice try. If I define my problems then I get closer to solving them. If I instead COMPLAIN about my problems I get to be special.

>>84086735
It's not an argument, it's natural to desire the best for you.

chad is a homosexual term because instead of becoming the best version of yourself you can be to fulfill such desire, you externalize it to other men so you can suck their cock and blame women for being a loser.

>>84086735
Non normie women are offten sluts, because its easy to feel better while getting attention, and it come easy for them, except if they are asexual or traumatized. Men with isues become coomers and escortmaxers.

As for nerds, is as >>84086768 say, they get for Chad of their group. Which is probably true for most women who are in semi-closed interest groups.

>>84086939
true... maybe i just wanted to know what the requirements for nerddom for a vagina-haver is though.

>>84086940
>chad is a homosexual term because instead of becoming the best version of yourself you can be to fulfill such desire, you externalize it to other men so you can suck their cock and blame women for being a loser.
"Self-actualisation" is absolutely a gigantic meme predicated on false assumptions about human autonomy and, more or less, what amounts to magical thinking. (You), like all humans, have a genetic maximum potential afforded to you by circumstance. EVERYTHING about your life is more or less determined by factors totally outside of your control, from your genetics, to the environment you are born into, to events happening to you that you have no control over.

Not only that, "the best version of yourself" is such a broad term as to be meaningless. It's a platitude. "Self-help" is bullshit, the "just world" is bullshit, the idea that people have control over their reality is insane bullshit peddled to us by people who are, largely, born into extreme privilege. The richest and most influential people alive, right now, were largely born into connected families. Pretty much everybody famous and powerful was born into extremely privileged circumstances, and you can drag out some counter-example, which completely proves the point.

>>84086919
It doesn't matter how you define it. Men are on average less herd-oriented by nature. So no matter what below average "ltier" of "social functioning" you look at, there will be much more men than women within that pool, and thus all the women in that pool will go to the top men within it, while the bottom men within it get nothing.

>>84086735
>women who are nerdy
also desire an attractive, taller man who earns good money
just like nerdy men would prefer an attractive woman
the only difference between "nerdy" women and regular women is that "nerdy" women are more open to settling for their looks match and not resenting him for it

>>84086735
The point is precisely that yes, they actually do. I observed it with my own two eyes by the way. I just thought /r9k/ was funny memes until I found out that nearly everything said here is 100% truth.

>>84086940
Its cheaper to just fuck hookers then to model your life to attract a female (which is the same, but the latter is paid with your soul/self).

I want someone who understands me and I can be open with. But someone will probably be broken in some way, so it would probably end in disfunctional relationship or drama.

>>84086735
Women, all women are whores to Chad, who cares about the cuck relationshit side of things, all that matters is the whore side of things.
If nerdy women were hoes to nerdy guys, pretty sure they wouldnt have a problem wifing them up when the fun was over.

>>84086980
i'm not in your conversation about only chad getting pussy, i'm asking who is considered a nerd and ignoring the dataminer asking for my ideal man.

>>84087027
A "nerd" is really just somebody with socially unacceptable or niche hobbies. Anime is no longer "nerdy", by the way, unless you are exclusively watching hentai VHS tapes from the nineties or something.

>>84087060
>Anime is no longer "nerdy"
yeah i'm aware. it's very weird to watch happen. i wonder how the faggots who built this place feel about that. they probably have more important thoughts about online radicalization they have fukken saved, though.

>>84086780
No. Guys just want someone whom they get along with. They never care about stacy per se, and a large majority get the ick from stacy.

>>84086735
>women who are nerdy or whatever it is you want dont want a guy whos obsessed with going to the gym or whatever other normie shit, they want a guy whos similar to themselves that they bond with.
yeah they want some 6' 9" poindexter who believes in BLM and plays DnD

>>84087075
Truly "nerdy" hobbies are ones that are extremely difficult to monetise outside of their niche audience(s). Model trains will always be nerdy and niche, reading "trve literature" will always be nerdy and niche (though BookTok "literature" ALMOST counts as nerdy, almost, because it's still broadly viewed as strange). Anime really became popular with normalfags because of how badly the Western entertainment industry has floundered and just refuses to give people what they want, which is sexy hot people doing cool stuff with minimal overt social or political messaging. The average person lives a dull, painful life, they don't wanna hear some celebrity who lives in a mansion talking about how we need to "do better".

>>84087106
See: >>84086768

They want a pornographic Spencer Reid from Criminal Minds.

>>84087114
yeah that's basically what i said, always some skinny beanpole ass

>>84086979
That's just you finding excuses to not use your brain, and doing a homosexual detour into sucking billionaire cock as a result. You can pretend you're a victim of the powers that be all you want, day to day is pretty obvious you're the one with autonomy.

>>84087107
those sort of hobbies require passion, dedication, and knowledge, all of which are incredible aphrodisiacs. hearing a guy go on at length about his model train collection or watching a slapfight between "trve literature" connoisseurs over which of their favorite russian authors is the most nihilistic existentialist is not only entertaining but informative and proof of competence, independent thinking, and intelligence. pedantry is pornography for some. a man nerding out over his yugioh collection, japanese tea ceremonies, fluctuations in bpm in electronica evolution, his favorite examples of eurasian architecture, train routes across the western hemisphere...? hubba hubba. seriously.

>>84087159
These are all nonsense platitudes predicated on completely delusional assumptions and magical thinking, sorry. The world is horrifying and unfair and blaming people for their circumstances is wicked, though you are incapable of doing otherwise due to your predispositions and circumstances (much like a dog is unable to resist a steak, you are unable to think critically), so it's not your fault, really.

The ultimate, evil, logical conclusion to the monstrously cruel and delusional idea of the world being just and rewarding effort is just saying that every person who suffers horribly simply didn't try enough. The reality is that for every million people who spend their entire lives working their asses off to "self-actualise", 999,999 will just end up dying miserable. Nobody even attempts to actually argue with this observable, living nightmare in good faith, they just resort to ad hominem.

>>84086979
>>84087182
Why are you still alive if this is what you think life is and expect it only to get worse as time goes on?

>>84087213
1) This is not an argument.
2) I am fortunate enough to have been born into a very comfortable and privileged life, with a functioning body and brain. I will die eventually, so I have no desire to rush to the finish line.

>>84087182
you're the one wasting time projecting miserable endings into people you have never talked with. Stop being such a retard and make better use of your time, it's a boring fanfic you keep writing.

>>84087242
I wasn't making an argument. I was asking you a personal question which you have now answered. Thanks. Follow-up question: why, if you were born into a very comfortable and privileged life with a functioning body and brain, are you lecturing others on why they need to demoralize themselves against any hope of self-improvement and put their anger solely on whom you deem to the arbiters of their external circumstances? Circumstances which you, presumably, materially benefit from?

>>84087248
This is not an argument and is basically just as hominem (again). Riveting argumentation. That being said, I am tempering my anger to the best of my abilities because I understand that you are just born the way you are and can't help it, despite your ironic demands of demanding others live in defiance of physical reality and partake in apotheosis.

>Just grow taller!
Insane thing to say.

>Just be richer!
Insane thing to say.

>Just have different organs and skin colour!
Insane thing to say.

>Just completely change the functionality of your brain (an organ granted to you by genetics) using Olde Magicks!
Great advice!

>>84087276
wow you are annoying. i forgot liberal 4channers were way more annoying than rightoid ones.

>>84087255
My goal isn't to "demoralise", it's to hopefully help those capable of understanding that when somebody tells them to magically transform their reality, they are being victim blamed. Ancient peoples mostly didn't believe in free will, because it's an insane concept that completely ignores observable reality and blames suffering on those who suffer for simply not choosing to not suffer hard enough. The ancient perception of man as a beast occasionally possessed by fates and passions is genuinely more accurate to observable reality than the hilarious idea that you can just brain yourself into "success".

I want those who are capable to understand that nobody "deserves" anything. That is all.

>>84086850
data mining threads are more likely to be trolled and poisoned, especially by men who want to be women and transition other boys and men
>inb4 this isn't real
been there

>>84087291
Anon, rejecting the concept of "tabula rasa" is one of the most illiberal positions a human can take...

>>84087027
>ignoring the dataminer asking for my ideal man.
Because the answer is the same as all other women?

>>84087294
all posts on here are likely to be trolled and poisoned.
this one seems pretty genuine:
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/84076697/

protip: if people are in it raging that the pics submitted are not what they expected and whining about foids blogposting and just wanting to hear themselves talk, it's probably real.

>>84087307
because i don't want to derail another thread with 16 replies of competitive attentionwhoring.

>>84087322
yeah i saw that one, and the people who accused everyone of lying
>pretty genuine
>hitler & moot
You see what i mean?

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>>84086735
>they want a guy who's similar to themselves that they bond with.

>>84087335
> i don't want to derail another thread
> women who are nerdy or whatever it is you want dont want a guy whos obsessed with going to the gym or whatever other normie shit, they want a guy whos similar to themselves that they bond with.
It's literally the topic of the thread

>>84086735
all women want chad
nerdy women want nerd chad

>>84087352
I prefer the other version of the pic, where it's the same naked chad in all pics, but decorated with glasses, or a paintbrush, or whatever in each frame.

>>84087348
seems like the moot ones were serious and the hitler ones semi-serious

>>84087362
>If you are a woman i'd like to ask you about your ideal man?
is not the topic of the thread. it is the topic of the archived thread.

>>84087439
>women who are nerdy or whatever it is you want dont want a guy whos obsessed with going to the gym or whatever other normie shit, they want a guy whos similar to themselves that they bond with.
The topic of this thread is in the greentext above. It is about what nerdy women want.
We can go back and forth making claims without any evidence (and evidence will be dismissed as "useless statistics" anyway) so the only thing that can settle it is actual user opinions. That is why i ask. But nevermind then. Go back and forth talking about schrodingers nerdettes.

>>84087388
i haven't seen it, please post if u have it.

>>84087468
my fucking god. here.

>>taller than me (5'6)
>>white
>>dark shaggy hair
>>glasses
>>not fat
>literally this easy. they're a dying breed though.

>personality overrules physical appearance for me, but sure, since we're keeping with the theme of the thread.

>>able to laugh at himself
>>if he's insecure at least won't take it out on me with negging constantly
>>can be cynical but also capable of seeing the beauty in the world
>>chooses to do good even when it seems he would gain nothing directly from it
>>enjoys learning and exploration
>>intelligent
>>resilient, emotionally stable
>>able to be vulnerable
>>compatible sense of humor, this is posted on 4chan so i gather you know what that means
>>lets me take care of him or protect him without finding it emasculating
>>lets me be affectionate and loving and not bat away my hands if i touch his arm or call him 'honey' in public, freaking out because 'people can see! people are looking!'
>>enjoys having a lot of sex often in different positions and open to roleplay, dirty talk, sexting, fetishes, toys, costumes, whatever just to try it and for the pleasure of both of us. would rather stay monogamous though
>>has some sort of actual outlook on life ie is not an npc wandering around
>>values independence in himself and his partner
>>trustworthy enough to maybe, one day, be a father and husband

since we're not talking IDEAL then the only physical qualifer is "wears glasses" and is at least my height but i've gone lower. i just like glasses.

>>84087503
>White with shaggy dark hair and not fat
This is legitimately a tiny, tiny portion of the world population. When combined with "intelligent" especially.

>>84087540
>since we're not talking IDEAL then the only physical qualifer is "wears glasses" and is at least my height but i've gone lower. i just like glasses.

>>84087503
You didn't have an obligation to repost it, but surely you see the logic i'm applying.
ITT all you'll get is anons saying women only want chad, but with glasses. And you'll try talk about hobbies, they'll say yeah but it has to be chad playing with the train models. etc. ad infinitum

>>84086735
i don't even think "normie" women want "chad" yeah normies are cringe blahblahblah but people are people and there's a certain sort of arrogance in imagining that other people don't have the same introspection you do just because you also have resentment

>>84087503
>>84087552
But points for posting about the personality you like. You'll still get anons saying you only want this personality, but chad lmao.

>>84086979
ahahaaaaa THERE IT IS
strucka nerve?
lmao Nietzsche was an Incels to the bitter end to btw

>>84087107
>which is sexy hot people doing cool stuff with minimal overt social or political messaging
Don't post what you want as what everyone wants. I prefer realistic, more grounded depictions and people.

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>>84087571
>ITT all you'll get is anons saying women only want chad, but with glasses. And you'll try talk about hobbies, they'll say yeah but it has to be chad playing with the train models. etc. ad infinitum
>You'll still get anons saying you only want this personality, but chad lmao.
i know. and this will still be the picture i mostly recently came thinking about, and life will go on.

>>84087576
This is not an argument. Sorry.

>>84087293
do away with will at your own risk; it can come with an entire contrived great chain of being and a hierarchy that basically justifies slavery
also it IS demoralisation to imply that change, progress, revolution, etc. are impossible and that the status quo is inevitable

>>84087439
holy SHIT you're autistic date me
>>84087503
holy SHIT you're the same person who i replied to in that thread somehow but i didn't get to continue cuz i was doin other stuff
well erm
awkwaaard
lol but ya that's cool
heh desu i really like girls i can have arguments with cuz it's a learning experience

>>84087293
>I want those who are capable to understand that nobody "deserves" anything. That is all.
Then why are you in threads with people who have nothing telling them that their lives are not theirs to control and will never get better? Go lop off a CEO's head in Times Square or something if you're such a radical 99%er.

>>84087540
fuck off bruh that's literally me so it can't be that rare cuz i think of myself as a loser every night and have unhinged thoughts about how i'm always watching life from the sidelines uuuugh
whatever
yeah tho
would be nice to have emotional vulnerability someday
someday

>>84086735
I'm the closest thing you could call to a normie here and I've been with women who again were the closes thing you could call a normie.

You ever seen couples from reddit? The Quirky Chungus GF & The Eternal Manchild meme?

This idea that you're either a Chad or a Stacey or a complete 0/10 dogshit caricature of a human being is autismbrain. Most people are normal and are with other normal people. Most people aren't even impressed by looks the way that morons on 4chan are. Anyone with the slightest bit of dating experience or social intelligence and awareness of how time works know that looks will fade and in long-term relationships it's someone's personality and social skills that matter above all else.

It's also peak projection to say that normies only want Chad and/or Stacey. That's you, the 4chan incel who's easily impressed by instagram profiles and only wants A Hot Babe as their eternal gf/wife that somehow never ages.

>>84087602
are you legit "special" or what
we don't care about an "argument" when you're sperging out about your own narrow paradigm of the world which is basically babby's first nihilism
I should introduce you to an insufferable anti-natalist I know you guys would be perfect for each other

>>84087607
You are misinterpreting me: I don't believe in hierarchy at all, just outcomes. Nobody is better or worse than anyone in the same way that a chemical or physical reaction cannot be worse or better than another. We are just outcomes ourselves, extremely complex chemical and physical reactions layered on top of one another, but still just those things. Nobody "deserves", things just are, as terrible as that is. You had no choice in how or where you were born and what led you to this moment.

Let go of delusions of control. Surf long enough and you become the wave, and then you are ocean, I suppose.

>>84087641
This is a good post but it will trigger some of the people here
I would say in their defense that there is actually a lack of understanding at times at what unpopular and antisocial people go through as far as isolation and loneliness thought. Maybe we should invite each other to more parties or something

>>84087651
Again, this is not an argument. You are just relaying your desperate self-affirmations (ideas of control) while offering not even simplistic rhetoric in response. How is it that we can just tell people to magically be "gooder" and accept that as "advice", when somebody's generic predispositions are completely outside of their control? Telling somebody to just grow taller is insane, but telling somebody to just have a different brain is... Normal, because it just has to be, because if it's not true, then that's scary.

>>84087655
>Let go of delusions of control. Surf long enough and you become the wave, and then you are ocean, I suppose.
You could just learn to float and swim instead.

>>84087655
You used a bunch of words to attempt to convey meaning but the words undermined the concept of meaning itself if you actually applied them logically
I don't care whether or not you "believe" in hierarchy; most of the effects or "outcomes" I propose actually occur downstream long after you or I cease to exist anyways
The point is that *will* and *fate* are contrasting paradigms and that entrenched hierarchies heavily favour the latter
Anyways I don't want to derail this thread
But yeah blackpill, self-fulfilling prophecies, I get where it all comes from and can even sympathize quite a bit but it's actually nauseating, vomit-inducing, and quite harmful in terms of the inner mental life.
The opposite isn't being naively optimistic, either... It's being *existential* and FIGHTING--living like "I don't need a move, 'cuz I got my life"

>>84087671
it's not an argument, and neither is punching you in the jaw which would have already BEEN happened if you'd have been spewing this waste of oxygen around me or my buddies
(Literally happened to this weirdo conspiracy nerd who was trying to film us last night and yelling about government mind control before my friend Kai gave him a left hook lmaoooo)
I'm not even bothering to read the last half of your message
Idk if you think this is some debate nerd club or what but you came to the wrong place buddy
You're not in charge here
and we don't give a fuck about your "arguments"

>>84087684
If you aren't born buoyant, you can't learn how to float or swim, that's the thing. Why is it okay to tell people to just have a different brain when it's not okay to tell them to just change their other organs? Because we assign magical properties to the brain, and that's awful and evil and ultimately tells people that they are "responsible" for their own suffering, which justifies the world just being a horrible place.

>>84087696
It doesn't matter how "harmful" it is if it is an observable reality. People cannot change their brains beyond what is genetically and circumstantially granted to them. Implying otherwise is blaming people for suffering they cannot control, and that's wicked. If you "struggle", then it's because you had the ability to struggle. Billions have not had that privilege, which it is. A privilege. An outcome and possibility granted by circumstance.

Ironically, your belief in "free will" justifies hierarchy insofar as it more or less leads to the reasoning that slaves who get raped every day until they die form anal rupturing just didn't choose to not be slaves anymore. That's awful.

>>84087728
>Idk if you think this is some debate nerd club or what but you came to the wrong place buddy
>You're not in charge here
>and we don't give a fuck about your "arguments"

YOU CAME TO THE WRONG NEIGHBORHOOD MOTHERFUCKER. WE'RE RETARDED HERE!!!

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>>84086735
Think back to when you were younger. You'll notice that all the nerdy/normal girls either had bfs or were intentionally single (or possibly lesbian), but none of the nerdy/normal guys had gfs.

Curious!

>>84087728
>Making completely deranged threats of violence when worldview is challenged
You have an awful predisposition, but it was given to you by circumstance. It's not your fault. Good luck.

>>84087728
>Idk if you think this is some debate nerd club
this is more like what robot9000 used to be. who the fuck do you think is in charge and who the fuck do you think you are speaking for when you say "we don't give a fuck", by the way?

>>84087748
Inverse here. 9 out of 10 nerdy girls graduated without a date, every nerdy guy always had a gf.

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>>84086735
being "chad" isn't about going to the gym or having a social life, it's purely about looks

Hey you, yeah you, incel.
Hating women is not an argument, and neither is punching you in the jaw which would have already BEEN happened if you'd have been spewing this waste of oxygen around me or my buddies
(Literally happened to this weirdo conspiracy nerd who was trying to film us last night and yelling about government mind control before my friend Kai gave him a left hook lmaoooo)
I'm not even bothering to read the last half of your message
Idk if you think this is some debate nerd club or what but you came to the wrong place buddy
You're not in charge here
and we don't give a fuck about your "arguments"

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>>84087761
Certainly an exception, not the rule.
>or however the phrase goes

>>84087777
This is so freaking true.
Hating women is not an argument, and neither is punching you in the jaw which would have already BEEN happened if you'd have been spewing this waste of oxygen around me or my buddies
(Literally happened to this weirdo conspiracy nerd who was trying to film us last night and yelling about government mind control before my friend Kai gave him a left hook lmaoooo)
I'm not even bothering to read the last half of your message
Idk if you think this is some debate nerd club or what but you came to the wrong place buddy
You're not in charge here
and we don't give a fuck about your "arguments"

>>84087777
>incel
>hating women
Incels are the biggest simps and love women, your quads won't change that.

>>84087800
Amen my brother. So glad we can respect women and minorities here.
Hating Jews is not an argument, and neither is punching you in the jaw which would have already BEEN happened if you'd have been spewing this waste of oxygen around me or my buddies
(Literally happened to this weirdo conspiracy nerd who was trying to film us last night and yelling about government mind control before my friend Kai gave him a left hook lmaoooo)
I'm not even bothering to read the last half of your message
Idk if you think this is some debate nerd club or what but you came to the wrong place buddy
You're not in charge here
and we don't give a fuck about your "arguments"

>>84087737
>If you aren't born buoyant, you can't learn how to float or swim, that's the thing.
Watch me.
>Why is it okay to tell people to just have a different brain when it's not okay to tell them to just change their other organs?
Because you are in control of how you think and while others can influence them you are in control of it.
I can prove it if you indulge in the experiment, but i cannot make you.
>Imagine a bright light, stop whenever it pleases you or continue if you wish.
>Now think about your foot, stop whenever it pleases you or continue if you wish.
>Think about joy, now sadness, now joy.

>Because we assign magical properties to the brain
No... the brain has completely different properties than your other organs. They are "magical" in the sense we don't fully understand them, but what we do understand of its properties is that it is flexible. It's responsive to external and internal input. You see something sad and you feel sad, you think something happy and you feel happy.
>genetically and circumstantially granted to them
This is true, your brain is limited by it's genetics but you control the circumstances, to a degree.
Here's a poem about the power of your mind by a lass that studied the brain.
>The brain - is wider than the sky
>For - put them side by side
>The one - the other will contain
>With ease - and you besides
>The brain - is deeper than the sea
>For - hold them - blue to blue
>The one the other will absorb
>As sponges - buckets do
>The brain is just the weight of God
>For - heft them - pound for pound
>And they will differ - if they do
>As syllable from sound

>>84087808
i think you're missing the point of them posting that.

>>84087750
just was connecting a local Brazilian artist to some studio opportunities for a new sculpting workshop he's doing and my mate told me I have decent networking skills so idk about that I just have low tolerance for mouthbreathers

>>84087795
The wall is a cope though, the "women are desperate at 30" doesn't happen in real life.

It baffles me how much people mix up their feelings and fantasies with reality. Like, just look at what's actually going on. Does it look like most men over 30 are swarmed by messages in social media the way women are? Do they get constantly hit on? Is tinder over 30 mostly women being ignored by most men?

You guys are so dumb.

>>84087667
I will say that being older, my youth was lived in the days before the whole culture wars bullshit where a lot of female nerds and a lot of male nerds turned on each other because of trannies and video games around 2014, and it only got worse over the years regardless of whose side you're on.

I'm not a 2000s revisionist either who's gonna claim there was nothing political during the Bush-Obama years, but at least most issues then were real issues like war in Iraq and Enron and the housing bubble burst etc.

No one was making themselves weird gross permavirgins because the mario princess's skirt was either too long or too short the way that zoomers have been doing for over a decade.

back then, male nerds and female nerds could just hang out and make dumb edgy jokes and shout memes at each other no worries - unless someone in the group was really really enthusiastic about bombing Iraqis or whatever.

>>84087777
lol are we famous yet?
this GET should go on r/4chan

>>84087817
That's great, but unfortunately Emily Dickinson is not a neuroscientist, and neither is punching you in the jaw which would have already BEEN happened if you'd have been spewing this waste of oxygen around me or my buddies
(Literally happened to this weirdo conspiracy nerd who was trying to film us last night and yelling about government mind control before my friend Kai gave him a left hook lmaoooo)
I'm not even bothering to read the last half of your message
Idk if you think this is some debate nerd club or what but you came to the wrong place buddy
You're not in charge here
and we don't give a fuck about your "poems"

>>84087808
the opposite of love is not hatred, but indifference
two sides of the same coin

>>84087836
>before the whole culture wars bullshit where a lot of female nerds and a lot of male nerds turned on each other because of trannies and video games around 2014, and it only got worse over the years regardless of whose side you're on.
insane how true this is. the real schism of gamergate was male nerds and female nerds turning on each other forever after.

>>84087836
not revisionism necessarily but do you have recent experiences of people actually being ostracized from nerd parties due to 'Culture Wars'?

>>84087852
>the real schism of gamergate was male nerds and female nerds turning on each other forever after.
all they had to do was review the videogame honestly, why can't reporters write truth?

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>>84087828
Granted, the whole 'over 30' thing is a remnant from Gen-X's era, but let's not act as if a woman is still fecund over the age of 30 and isn't on a biological clock. Foids know it, and it's part of why they choose actual degenerates to reproduce with instead of actual men.

>>84087817
>Watch me
If you are capable of something, it isn't a choice. Implying otherwise is wicked and basically implies that people can just choose to not be retarded or short or ugly, which they can't.

>Because you are in control of how you think and while others can influence them you are in control of it.
So people can choose to not be retarded, mentally ill, depressed? This is horrible. We know that the brain is an organ, and that intelligence and mindset are heavily heritable. This is simply wrong: you do not control how your brain works any more than you control whether or not you develop hereditary stomach cancer.

The rest of the post is just you contradicting yourself. Sorry, the brain is not magical. People cannot choose how their brain functions and implying they can is deranged and blames victims for suffering.

>Just don't have PTSD bro
Insane thing to say.

>Just don't have schizophrenia bro
Insane thing to say.

>Just use your ancient magicks to align your bio spirit and transcend reality itself
Completely normal, if you don't utilise magic to transform your biology then you are just choosing to be bad and sad and not trying hard enough.

>>84087839
i use the rest of the internet so little i had to look up what you were talking about. they take 2 post ops on here, screenshot them, and post them on reddit to hundreds of comments agreeing? why? just post on here?

>>84087885
>If you are capable of something, it isn't a choice.
I can choose to do it or not so it is a choice. I can choose to be capable too. Going to the gym for instance makes me more capable at lifting things. Studying maths makes me capable of counting.
>So people can choose to not be retarded, mentally ill, depressed?
Not everything is a choice. But i did choose to stop being depressed. I was diagnosed and for a whole decade i suffered. Then i just decided not to be sad.
>People cannot choose how their brain functions
You can train it to function differently. Implying you can't is just retarded anon. You have already trained your brain to function in a way that allows you to read this message.
>Just don't have PTSD bro
>Insane thing to say.
Choose therapy. You can even choose to be your own therapist. But you should never choose to be the rapist.
>Just use your ancient magicks to align your bio spirit and transcend reality itself
Strawman i never said.
You are being a whiny bitch now and ignoring facts. Some things are controllable and some things are not. Your brain is flexible, to a degree.
If your next reply isn't "you make some good points anon" i'm going to stop replying. Because i have been meeting you in the middle, and you're trying to be a crab.

>>84087876
i don't know, why can rightfully angry "free speech" gamers not call in bomb threats to universities to prevent people from speaking there?

>>84087885
bruh put down the steven pinker robert sapolsky for a sec most of those dudes were closet pedos anyways lmao

>>84087878
Wouldn't they want to reproduce with actual men over degenerates if they have a limited window to reproduce?

>>84087935
>closet pedos
does this make them wrong about how the brain functions?

>>84087924
>I can choose to be capable too. Going to the gym for instance makes me more capable at lifting things. Studying maths makes me capable of counting.
Deranged, sorry. This is just telling people they can choose to not be retarded or disabled. Your mere ability to understand language or numbers is not your choice, it's a genetic mental capability. Implying otherwise is saying that people born with mental disorders are choosing to be retarded.

I can't respond to everything you are saying because it is all completely insane and myopic. Therapy isn't a choice, it's a privilege, unless you are implying a woman born in a rural village in Africa who gets PTSD from being gangraped can just "choose" therapy, which she can't, because of circumstances outside of her control (which caused the PTSD in the first place). You genuinely believe in magic, and that's awful. You are telling people to just defy functional, physical reality because (You) were born into circumstances and with predispositions that created certain outcomes for you. And that's evil and insane. But it's not your fault because you are predisposed towards magical, fanciful thinking, and also victim blaming.

If someone gets PTSD, and goes to therapy and doesn't get better, you are effectively saying they are just bad and stupid and "deserve" to suffer, which is... Victim blaming.

>>84087929
lock those psychos up
but also lock up any of the reporters taking money for 7/10 reviews
i'm a fair man see?

>>84087960
>This is just telling people they can choose to not be retarded or disabled.
I already conceded this point and i'm not reading the rest of your retarded post now because you brought it up again. Stay retarded.

>>84086735
>the argument that women only want chad is interesting to me because yeah normie women want chad, but i dont think anyone here wants a normie woman. women who are nerdy or whatever it is you want dont want a guy whos obsessed with going to the gym or whatever other normie shit, they want a guy whos similar to themselves that they bond with.
Idk how many people will read this after so many responses, but here's my take and serious analysis.
The fist thing I would say to this is that looks matter for forming relationships, and being a chad is about looks. A chad is a man with a pretty face whom women are interested in a result, not someone who goes to the gym. This is a fundamental misconception, as incels never say women prefer men with different hobbies than theirs.
Secondly, men can't really be picky or say "normie women only want chad, but its ok, that's not the type of woman I am interested in", because the dating market is VERY BAD for most men. Without some kind of arrangement or social contract that facilitates it, as humanity had for most of history, the dating market just isn't really functioning that well. It's average men grinding through rejections and humiliation rituals, and average women getting used and dumped by some chad whom she wants to be in a relationship with, but, statistically, they would've never met if not for the fact that he uses and dumps multiple women, so she never had a chance.
If the dating market is broken and women are the ones in control by virtue of being the choosers, then it is by definition women's fault. And if women keep complaining that guys are "muh scared of commitment", "fuckboys", "lying to get sex and ghost", then it's obvious that its because the fucking idiots are expecting chads to commit and ignoring everyone else.
Women who are not normies can't be that much different because looks will still matter to them and they will still be picky.

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>>84087940
You would THINK so, yes, and that was (somewhat still is) the common narrative. Reality, however, proves otherwise.
>he can barely read or write and can't keep a job, but at least he's over 6' and lays the pipe

>>84087945
you are not your brain
and scientific disciplines are a wheel and spokes, not a pyramid where physics explains everything
this is the equivalent of david hilbert getting brutally mogged by kurt goedel lol
and it's all just an excuse for inevitabilist status quo shilling
pathetic
in a world of chomskys, be a parenti

>>84087859
Yes and no, given how male nerds who would be into like MAGA tradcath or whatever would never want to hang out with some girl with piercings and blue hair even if she doesn't have annoying politics.
So it's not really about being ostracized from parties, it's moreso them not wanting to be there to being with.
it goes both ways with some lefty feminist woman who doesn't want to join the local board game thing because she thinks all the guys there will be mad at her like that jpeg of that "women ruin all of my hobbies" MS paint meme.

>>84087876
I was never about the integrity of ethics and morals and values of fair and balanced news and free speech in video games and all that word salad nonsense that gamer gaters say it was about.

The year before, everyone was having a big old laugh at Doritos Pope at the Game Awards, we thought it was hilarious and moved on. There was countless examples of game reviews clearly being paid off, going all the way back to magazines before zoomers were even born.

No conflict of interest or anything there, haha dorito pope, let's instead bring on the apocalypse on ourselves because a woman with piercings made a shitty video game.

Not even a trans woman either. That would have been chef's kiss.

>>84088018
Then what do you think genuinely prompted it? I was barely paying attention to it at the time so i only know in retrospect what people say it's about.

>>84088018
>male nerds who would be into like MAGA tradcath or whatever would never want to hang out with some girl with piercings and blue hair even if she doesn't have annoying politics.
lol YOU WOULD THINK but...
you would be surprised

>>84088001
>in a world of chomskys, be a parenti
NTA but Parenti lost my respect after he showed up on the Penn & teller show Bullshit alongside like 3 Chinese professors of Chinese History from the University of China to all agree with each other on how Tibetans are evil subhuman demons who eat babies and gladly welcomed the Chinese liberation arm with open arms as they were relieved of their needless culture, language & religion and also their land.

>>84087975
Conceding that point is conceding the entire argument, bud. The brain is an organ with heritable, immutable traits. You are just telling people to magically be better, and when you are told how insane and unreasonable that is, you resort to ad hominem and magical thinking.

Again: it's not your fault you are this way, it's just how you are.

>>84088018
>some lefty feminist woman who doesn't want to join the local board game thing because she thinks all the guys there will be mad at her
woman who go to the local board game thing are literally more likely to be alternative and left wing than say an average preppy suburban girl who does sports or whatever

>>84088035
haha for the conspiracy minded among us it might have been a collab between Steve Bannon, Jeffery Epstein, and moot himself lol

>>84088042
idk about that, that is kinda messed up if it happened
that sounds crazy desu lol
still mad props for his uncompromising work opposing imperialism

>>84087878
>Foids know it, and it's part of why they choose actual degenerates to reproduce with instead of actual men.
This makes no sense, by just going for a normal looking man, women can find one to settle down with on the spot.

>>84088046
nta but the idea that there is a "you" and that "you" are just "your brain" as well as a lot of both-sides dualism and individualism is hugely problematic and causes lots of conflations
whatever, Julian Jaynes is the way to really throw a wrench into all this

>>84088035
Really just the fact that it was a woman with piercings and blue hair. She was also loosely associated with that Armenian woman who made a bunch of youtube videos talking about how there's not enough original lead female characters in gaming.

Which I guess is a fair point, but at the same time who cares? Video games as a media is barely a few decades old especially when it comes to being anything more than unrecognizable pixels or even voxels on a screen that make bleeps and bloops. Cinema is 130 years old and it took a few decades to have movies that pass the bechnel test or whatever. Go make you own video games, which I guess is what that other girl did.

Anyways, 4chan and the early incelverse decided that they were the problem with all of modern civilization. They were told by right-wing libertarian think tanks that they were going to have all their video games stolen and be sent to gender-apology camp or whatever.

>>84088078
>Problematic
Your entire argumentation is that it makes you feel bad or that the implications are scary? That's it? Implying the brain has unique magical properties exclusive in the universe because you are scared or upset by the alternative is no different to saying magical fairies carry you to Gumdrop Mountain when you die because you are scared of death, and that's insane.

If people can just "choose" to have different brains, then the only logical conclusion is that everybody who suffers chooses to suffer and could just choose to be happy, even as they die in horrible pain, but they choose not to because they are weak and bad and stupid and not as good as (You). And that's awful.

>>84088056
>haha for the conspiracy minded among us it might have been a collab between Steve Bannon, Jeffery Epstein, and moot himself lol
Pizzagate is gamergate?

>>84088116
someone hasn't been following the Epstein reveals
he literally met with moot and talked about it in e-mails

>>84088066
Well imperialism is fine, according to him, when China does it under Mao.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpAOZkH09C8
He wrote a whole essay about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM_Voil22TU

and Penn & Teller themselves have a weird love boner for China, they're Libertarians but support Maoism. They did an episode in the 90s where they went around China doing magic tricks and maybe they got their dick rubbed off so good they switched politico-economic policies post-nut.

>>84088114
bruh get your head out of your ass for a sec
oh wait you can't cuz there's no free will
or something
also don't bother fighting for worker's rights
or an end to senseless war and violence either
it's already all been decided
the whole world's a stage after all

>>84088125
>someone hasn't been following the Epstein reveals
>he literally met with moot and talked about it in e-mails
I know both of those. He called him sensitive lol
I was asking about the gamergate/pizzagate crossover. The only stuff about games i know of in the epstein files is that he was talking to the main character himself, bobby kotick, and he wanted activision to name their currency cp.

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Lots of retards here look at how women act in dating apps and assume they only go for Chad. I don't see why a woman wouldn't on dating apps.
I made a catfish on Tindr to see how men communicate and the results were unsurprising. I got 100 likes and all but one were interchangeable with each other. Poor photos, low-quality profiles, half immediately talking about sex and the other half had no personality (and were also desperate for sex). The only one that was worth it was a Chad-lite guy who actually could hold a conversation.
If I was a woman I don't see why I wouldn't go for Chad. If all men are going to act the same why wouldn't I try my luck for Chad?

>>84088128
Mao actually did and said a lot of important things I hope you're not just blindly following Western cold war propaganda
Maybe listen to the RevLeftRadio episode on Mao and China for some balanced perspective
but yeah no one is perfect including Parenti
Geopolitics is a realm where you can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good though

>>84088142
This is a better post than almost all the others
Yeah
I mean if you think about it
the type of guy who uses dating apps to begin with is probably very cooked

>>84088138
okay this shit is getting way too autistic for me ngl i gotta go catch a movie with my friends

>>84088125
>>84088116
Tbh saying the "alt right" is purely an Epstein-Bannon creation (which it is) while implying that internet progressive and/or movements are totally natural is intellectually dishonest. Epstein also funded research into transsexuality, gender transitions and reassignment, and also donated heaps of money to leftist causes and the democrats. Hasan Piker, the "face" of Online Leftism (TM) is under the same talent agency as Neekolul and Asmongold and tonnes of other "influencers". EVERYTHING is fake, EVERYTHING is controlled opposition. You either choose the Open Society Foundation or the Heritage Foundation to fund your defanged controlled opposition or you just get arrested. Philosophy Tube, for instance, was funded and recruited by glowies to make videos about getting the jab and why the war in Syria was good, actually.

Nothing is real.

>>84086735
all women by definition are normie, because all women are scientifically proven midwits.
no matter the flavor if girl you get she will have all the normie components of other girls.

the only variation is if she is too ugly too fast or too dumb to take advantage of being a woman.

>>84088135
You can, or cannot. You will, or will not. Your ability to even care about concepts like "rights" is a genetic privilege owed to a predisposition towards certain kinds of thinking. Your only "argument" against this is that not being in control makes you feel bad, and that's insane.

>>84088142
This is true and why i dislike my fellow crabs in the bucket. I can't have a normal conversation with a woman online because they are getting 100 dick pics and the women are always getting their time wasted in a different way so are ready to drop it if the vibe feels off.
If i was in their position i'd do the same. Make a post/profile and filter out the dick pics and chuds for the 1 chad that has as good of a chance of being serious about relationships as the rest of the guys. OR add the 1 post/profile in 100's that is chad to begin with.

>>84088182
Slap yourself in the face, if you do it's free will, if you don't it's free will.
You cannot disprove the existence of freewill and determinism only applies retroactively otherwise you'd predict the future.

>>84088166
Yeah we live in a world of profilicity
(Carefree Wandering)
Hasan is mostly authentic in terms of his discourse and views, and he's never been on the side of US empire
Is he getting funded by either some sort of organized opposition or foreign group or part of a controlled network?
Idk man it's interesting to me from a psychological perspective how there's almost a rupture and tension between the ideas of a deterministic conspiratorial matrix and at the same time a materialistic meaningless universal nihilism where what dots one "chooses" (except for choosing is an illusion) to connect are totally arbitrary...
Just seems incoherent to me, but I guess it's not a reason to reject it necessarily lmao

>>84088182
>Your ability to even care about concepts like "rights" is a genetic privilege owed to a predisposition towards certain kinds of thinking.
lol bro if you knew anything about me you'd know I have changed my mind drastically on many things throughout my life and I also think calling me privileged is crazy when I loan money I literally don't have to friends to keep them off the street and never complain about it and yes I know see each day many people who are worse off than me and try to do what I can for them but I know what it's like to be absolute rock bottom even recently
Whatever man, no one should assume shit about another person without actually listening to them and walking in their shoes

>>84088198
We can "predict the future", we understand that adding one chemical to another causes a reaction. We, humans, are no different besides having more layers of complexity, which makes predicting the future outside of broad strokes impossible. Again: your entire argument is that humans are special and magical and can, though force of will, just transform the function of one of their organs (the brain). You just describe it differently.

Humans are not magical. Your ability to even speak and think is a privilege granted to you by genetics. You did not and cannot control this. Implying otherwise is implying people choose to be poor and stupid and can just choose to be smart and rich and happy, which you know isn't true

AAAAAAAGH
this entire discussion is the definition of
"scarin the hoes away"
haha

>>84088202
>Hasan is mostly authentic in terms of his discourse and views
Hasan "there's a genocide going on in gaza" abi is the most disingenuous streamer i've ever had the displeasure of witnessing.
>only wants to collab with people who have more viewers
>likes underage girls, including preteens, but calls everyone a pedo
>claims to be white, then claims to be turkish
>any argument against him and he resorts to "isreal"
>hates all the left, but says he is the left
>claims to have been poor, grew up riding horses
>claims to be a socialist, lives in a mansion
>shocks his dog

>>84088037
Would I? Anytime I see a Top Ten Things I Refuse To See Or Find In My Future Wife list, dyed hair and piercings and/or tattoos are always at the top.

>>84088049
>woman who go to the local board game thing are literally more likely to be alternative and left wing than say an average preppy suburban girl who does sports or whatever
Yeah but the guys? Not so much. I mean it might be a coin toss they might end up with a bunch of guys who are woke nerd liberals the same as a bunch of chud incels.

>>84088229
chemicals=/=people
predict your own future if it's determined
nevermind i'll do it for you, you will cringe at this in 5 years or kys with no inbetween

>>84088219
I don't think you understand what I am saying and are thinking about it on a personal level instead of on a genetic level. Again: your ability to understand ideas is a privilege granted to you by genetics. It's not a choice. No more than your height or skin colour is your choice.

>>84088233
Good.

>>84088229
you don't even have a good definition for magical other than "shit i predefine as impossible";
in reality i guarantee you there's a whole load of shit that is effectively 'magical' to you by any reasonable definition
you remind of this painfully autistic guy i nearly got to fight me at a party cuz he got so offended at the idea that metaphors in language could have deeper meaning beyond propositional statements without being "lies" and that we should all switch to a languages based on binary computer circuits in order to efficiently communicate without "errors"
I later learned from another dude that this guy actually hates women after his wife divorced him and that he got super triggered when in the argument I brought up how he would talk to a girl on a date as an example lmaooooooo

>>84088125
yeah and moot kept trying not to meet with him and was uberfocused on his own canvas and drawquest spinoffs and trying not to be hated in tech circles with kotaku journalists.
if you want to be full conspiracy you should point out that he banned the topic here and the gamergate and infinity guys turned on him as did most of 4chan. the entire anti-moot crusade of that which specifically drove him to leave the site make way more sense as an epstein and bannon backed way to get him the fuck out of here so they could fully take over to use the site for political purposes which moot was always against.
kind of like epstein outright says he wanted to.
and bannon clearly did with the trump campaign.
plus qanon.

>>84088247
everything is personal including your imagined understanding of genetics
unless you would be willing to put your gpa against mine in relevant coursework including and up to grad school biophysics with the spoils being whoever is less has to stfu forever and has no authority then nothing you say matters anyways
haha whatever my phone is dying i gotta get the fuck outta here

>>84088244
>chemicals=/=people
So people do not have any chemical reactions occurring inside of them? Genetics is a false science and the human brain is made out of magical fairy dust that acts in completely chaotic and unknowable ways? If I injected adrenaline into your bloodstream, I could never know what the reaction would be? Ever? Because humans are magical? Crazy. Using this knowledge I shall use my ancient magicks, granted to me by the Universe, to evaporate the wall in front of me, because the human brain is a magical device that nobody can understand because it's magical and special.

Oh.
It didn't work.
I wonder why that is.

>>84088147
Yeah no I read books about him as well as books from him, same with Che Guevara. I had a hardcore leftist phase in my young adulthood until I started seeing cracks in the facade.

Not that I'm a right-winger boomer now, they're even more full of shit.

I'd have to say I'm somewhat of an apathetic left-leaning centrist. I don't really care what happens in another part of my country let alone what happens in another part of the world.

NMFP is my main philosophy.

>>84088142
You are so abysmally low IQ. Only the chadlite could hold a conversation so you think they should go for chad, what if it had been an ugly guy holding a conversation?

Also I highly doubt only the attractive guy just so happened to hold a good conversation, I think you're biased and conflating good looks with personality.

>why would they not go for chad
If they are looking for a relationship then they are objectively fucking retarded if they go for the chads, because chads only talk to average women when they want to fuck multiple women, and therefore will not commit

>>84088157
>>84088188
as usual midwits enjoy and praise stupid comments

>>84088270
>not my fucking problem
felt this way since everything focused on israel again tbqhwy

>>84088269
composition, gradualism, eminence, quantity becomes quality
wwiii literally goin on and i gotta pry open obnoxious robot minds
eh it is what it is
haha guess that's basically what u say right
that even if u change ur mind somehow it's all an illusion
btw if everything is an illusion, nothing is

>>84088267
>>84088254
>Literally just conceding the brain is an unknowable magical device
Well.
Okay.
Good luck.

>>84088269
>argument of incredulity
You can rephrase what i'm saying however you want but it doesn't make you right. You're applying the logic of one thing onto an unrelated thing. I almost feel sad for you but i know you're just a child and so you don't have the maturity to understand.

>>84088277
>implying the average woman knows she's average

women have 0 comprehension of where they are on ranking tiers

>>84088277
anyone who unironically types the word 'chadlite' and says someone else is 'low IQ' needs to look in the mirror, i'm afraid

>>84088289
You haven't made any "arguments" besides "you are wrong because I say so and it's scary and problematic if I am wrong". It was even conceded earlier that people cannot choose how their brain functions, ergo blaming people for being a certain way is invalid and deranged.

>>84088288
no one said that dipshit
you're not even arguing against the same person anymore
all that would totally depend on how one defines "know"
(propositional, procedural, perspectival, or participatory???) and of course "magical"
but i think everyone but you at this point pretty much agrees there's not much point in engaging with you anymore

>>84088281
That, coupled with "I used to get on the internet to get away from the real world, now I go into the real world to get away from the internet".

>>84088308
>ergo blaming people for being a certain way is invalid and deranged.
WHO IS 'BLAMING' ANYONE?
Furthermore by your own philosophy couldn't you say exactly the same thing about 'blaming anyone FOR blaming anyone for how their brain functions'? It's just an infinite regress.

>>84088309
There was never any "engaging" with me, from the start it has just been ad hominems and magical thinking (we can just will our brains to be different because it's special somehow). This turned into appeals to authority and further concessions, but a refusal to accept reality because reality is scary and "problematic".

>>84088316
i wish the two could still be separate. the internet has colonized the real world so thoroughly now. seems like only nature and sacred places are immune, and even then it's a gamble.

t. aspiring hermit

>>84088328
i think you've cycled through arguing with at least three people by this point.

>>84088322
Telling people to just "choose" to think a different way is blaming them for how their brain functions.

>Furthermore by your own philosophy couldn't you say exactly the same thing about 'blaming anyone FOR blaming anyone for how their brain functions'? It's just an infinite regress.
Yes, exactly. I don't blame you for blaming others because you are, evidently, incapable of doing otherwise. I was working under the assumption that you could be reasoned with, but you are too invested (which isn't your fault) in the false reality that you are somehow in control of your reality.

It's not your fault, it's nobody's fault. It just is. And that's terrible.

>>84088335
And none of them "argued" anything, they just insisted that the brain is somehow excluded from our fundamental understanding of reality because it just is because reality is scary.

>>84088297
well don't be afraid, everything will be okay

kek, i say chadlite to refer to a guy who's above average but not super attractive like chads. if you think i should use a different word, i dont care, and if you think i should not talk about this, you're fucking stupid.

>>84088356
you're a good troll. most aren't this dedicated.

>>84088331
Not so much I find, like if you only watch gym drama videos you would think that literally everyone has their phone out being slutty in the squat rack or whatever - if you only watch prank videos you would think that there are 6 billion assholes running around the street pretend-vomiting on people, etc.

I've only ever come across those types twice. I live in a major North American urban area as well.

Granted I also prefer parks, nature reserves, museums, churches and old historical buildings over some loud normie dance club or Slut Fest 2025 or whatever.

But I still have fun training in martial arts, chilling at barcades, playing card games, etc.

Or did you mean the internet invaded the real world in some other way? Like how some fuckin restaurants don't even have menus anymore they have you scan some QR bullshit and then don't accept cash.

>>84088403
yes, the last part. everything is apps, forced signup, subscriptions. even on the internet it seems like you can't read a news story without a subscription or look at any social media without an account. not to mention ai integration in everything. but the original point was that absolutely everything is 'use the app, the website, the digital coupon, the ai assistant, the qr code, sign up for this rewards program, input your email, give us a review for a discount, like us on facebook' etc. this used to drive me crazy when school and work groups refused to just email anything and insisted on being on 3rd party chat apps or communicating exclusively through facebook or twitter, which thankfully seems to have lessened now.
>when is the...
>oh it's on the twitter! just follow it :)
>i don't have a twitter
>oh... well...
xforever.

i used to defend normies on the internet but that was before everything catered to said normies and before they made all of the outside world dependent on it. i'd love to go take a walk without hearing tiktoks blasting at the minimum, much less knowing i'm being tracked across 27 apps aside from the dedicated tracker ones and filmed on everyone's creepy doorway cameras. but those are larger privacy complaints about modernity, same as whining about how internet and social media usage has fundamentally changed how everyone interacts with each other. especially zoomers.

>>84088382
This is not an argument. I wish you could provide one beyond appeals to the idea that the human brain is a uniquely magical device, but it is what it is.

>>84088478
i didn't argue that and i wasn't making an argument. "you're a good troll. most aren't this dedicated." was an assessment of your combination of condescending superiority and pedantry, which is only outranked by my own.

>>84088277
>Only the chadlite could hold a conversation so you think they should go for chad
Reread what I wrote.
>what if it had been an ugly guy holding a conversation?
They wouldn't have matched. That's the point of what I'm saying. The millions of desperate low-quality men overshadow the genuine men, thus women are more likely to preemptively filter them out. Reread what I wrote.
>Also I highly doubt only the attractive guy just so happened to hold a good conversation, I think you're biased and conflating good looks with personality.
If I was gay or bi anything you said here would make sense. I spent an hour trying to chat with various men before filtering out the lower quality men. Eventually I got burnt out by the constant repetitive immediate begging for sex. If it took me an hour to get annoyed imagine what it would be like to be an actual woman.
>If they are looking for a relationship then they are objectively fucking retarded if they go for the chads
Reread what I wrote. What's the point in carefully dissecting every single conversation when there are literal 1000s of chats that immediate want sex?
>because chads only talk to average women when they want to fuck multiple women, and therefore will not commit
Let's assume this is true. And? That's what I'm talking about. If 99% of men on the app just want quick sex, why wouldn't you only want to have sex with a higher-value man? You'd eventually realize that these apps aren't suitable for finding relationship and it's more trouble than it's worth to go through every single person.
>as usual midwits enjoy and praise stupid comments
You sound like you got rejected on Tindr. Sucks to suck lil man.

>>84088572
god i love fellow 'read what i just said' posters.

>>84088584
I only do that if anons are too caught up in their feelings to make a rational point. Not my job to refute one's inane hypothetical they made up to make themselves feel better for their insecurities.

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>>84088456
oh yeah. For me less is more. That's the reason why I'm still on 4chan. For now we don't have to sign up into it anyways.

Every other website or app or promotion or points card membership bullshit or job application or job searching website or college or gaming platform or streaming service or anything else that you sign up for/to and give your information to is yet another metaphorical bank vault for hackers looking to crack into it and get everyone's personal data.

The less I'm signed up for, the better. I barely have over a terabyte of music and video games and movies that I've downloaded over the years and it'd be enough for me to be offline forever.

All I have is a google account, and old twitter account, an old Steam account and that's about it. I deleted my other social media accounts and forums and other shit I was signed up to. I think the one I deleted the fastest was tik tok, I was on there for a few months and was sick of it.

Twitter I'm still on there only because I follow japanese artists and it's the only way to get real time info about their upcoming shows and also cool pictures and whatever.
Youtube I just have an account because why not, and now with all the insane age restriction making PG videos 18+ and unwatchable without an account I'm glad I have it. I used to have two accounts actually got rid of one.

>>84088628
it happens more than you'd expect. someone will inevitably call your post a wall of text regardless of the length and refuse to read it while demanding you truncate it for them too.

>>84088651
>have one social media account ever
>someone archives it on the wayback machine almost 200 times over 14 years, nearly 100 times in the first 4 years alone, then deletes it down to under 50
>it stills archives fresh
good luck deleting yours.

>>84088705
Mine's set to private. Like I said I only use it to follow Japanese artists and a few other things, like it's a convenient way of finding out if other people are having an outage with a website or something, if I was a youtuber it's like the only way to talk to a human to try and get your stupid video re-monetized and get the age restriction lifted or debunk the bogus copyright claim. I'm not on there posting drunk pics or spicy political opinions.

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No, women who are like us want 2d chad.

>>84086735
The vast majority of women want the exact same shit. It's why sexual partners are distributed among straight men in accordance with the Pareto principle. You all want guys high in terms of socioeconomic status who looks conventionally attractive. All your selection criteria boils down to looking for cues of the former, like being extroverted, being disagreeable, not being neurotic and so on. It's also why you're infatuated with heinous criminals and psychopaths, because they are disagreeable to a pathological level, and your stupid animal brains interpret that as a sign of status or somebody likely to gain status, even if you're consciously aware that that man will be imprisoned for the rest of his life.

>>84089298
>you all just want a hot rich guy
is this not what everyone wants of their respective partner

>>84089313
No. Men don't care about the socioeconomic status of their partner. What matters to men is whether a woman is relatively young compared to the guy in question and beautiful. However, there's more variance in the kind of women men find physically attractive than there is among what women find physically attractive. For example, there's not a single aggressively selected for characteristic that men care about that's analogous to how women select for e.g. height.

>>84086735
>but i dont think anyone here wants a normie woman
I will only accept a normie woman if she:
- Isn't a feminist (feminists are psychopathic cunts)
- Isn't a troon (you will never be a woman)
- Refused all vaccines and swabs from 2018 onward (the MRNA bioweapon payload permanently destroys your ability to reproduce, and there's still no cure for it)
- Abstained from sex from 2018 onward (the MRNA bioweapon payload also passes from person to person through sex, and it bypasses condoms due to the nanoscopic size of the nanolipids)

Sadly there is no normie woman out there who can meet these standards, because I don't want normie women lmao.

>>84088198
A double pendulum is difficult to predict for a human. Does that mean a double pendulum has a will of its own and decides which way to move?
Complexity is separate from will