No matter how unique or different she may seem, a foid's a foid at the end of the day.
>>84087905I dated a guy who I shared interests in, thought he liked me for the same reason, and he didn't.it's not just a group of women, it's a group of people
>>84087905There are very few blackpills more brvtal than seeing a woman you thought was different have a foid moment and being forced to come to terms with the fact that they really are all the same.
>>84088010This is true, in my case it was finding out the sweet church girl I had a crush on in hs was on tinder underage and hooking up with 20+ year olds regularly. Only came out when her mom found out and went ballistic on her.
>>84088061How come you didn't try to ask out her mom if she had such good moral fiber?
poor kid thought television and parroting internet lingo is a personality lol.Fortunately for him women can look past that nonsense and focus on the positive aspects, like him being tall with hair and nice voice
>>84087905Guys are like this with girls too. Welcome to humanity
>>84088683No. Men look at a woman's soul when trying to find a life partner. Men invented romance and yearning. Women are incapable of that. Look within, you know it to be true.
>girl finally finds him attractive>NOO NOOOOO THIS CANT BEClassic incel self-sabotaging.
>>84089023women cry all the time about superficial objectification and being seen as sex objects thoughbeit
>>84089023That anon was not an incel. He was a chadlite mentalcel, as proven by the fact that a foid was physically attracted to him.
>>84087918>it's not just a group of women, it's a group of peopleIt's a group of people that just happens to be 99.9999999999% foids.Cut the crap. Women are just terrible superficial people approximately always. The existence of occasional terrible superficial men doesn't change that.>>84088683This is a lie.
>>84089042i don't know why though i enjoy being viewed sexually it feels good
TRVKE OP image.I'm tall and conventionally attractive. I've never had any issues getting a girlfriend.Sometimes I wish I was ugly and short so women would leave me the fuck alone and I wouldn't keep being used and getting my heart broken.At least then women would treat me like a human being, even if they don't want to fuck me.Anyone on here spouting shit about "chad" or "mentalcels" or "truecels" are agitators spreading divisiveness. It doesn't matter how tall or short you are, or what your romantic history is, we are all in the same shit boat.
>>84089113Trvke. Nobody who's "tall and handsome" could ever be a truecel.
>>84089023Incels are too pure for the filthy world of attraction.
>>84090178The world would be a lot better if looks really didn't matter and personality was everything like bluepillers say.
>>84087905Kind of like how even the "based" women are still ultimately loyal to the longhouse above all else.
>>84087905My first gf was exactly the same experience, except I met her from here. I was also 25. She didn't say it was because I was tall, but because I was handsome.I still tried continuing the relationship and even married her. Disastrous consequences though.
There's no such thing as personality. Just get strong and wealthy and overpower everyone in your way
>>84089042I am >>84090725 and I pointed that out to her, especially when she asked the question back to me and I explained I dated her for her personality. She claimed that it was proof that MEN are superficial, because men don't care about women's looks and the little things they do, whereas women pay attention to every detail of looks. Apparently it's a position heavily held by women. So when women say someone is shallow or superficial, it doesn't mean what men think it means.
>>84087905Wow fakecels annoy the hell out of me.
>>84087918>it's a group of peopleSnuckers
>>84087905isn't he shifting more to volcel than incel?
>>84091492Arguably. I say no because he was not being loved in the first place, which is the point here (not putting penis in vagina).
>>84087905>>84088010>have a foid momentAnd what is a foid moment foids may ask? All it entails is being a normie and being attracted to high body count slayer Chad. Being a normie means being a hypersocialized (far above the level of your male looksmatch) social media user. Every girl on the planet including every girl in the third world is exposed to normie conventions via their smartphone and is light years more socially capable than her male counterpart. When we say all women are normies, we mean that's all it takes. You are a normie by existing as a female.Being attracted to high body count slayer Chad: it doesn't matter who your current bf is; you have one. Your life will never be any semblance of lonely. If you are in an awkward or virtue-signaling phase and are experimenting a platonic relationship with the frumpy drama club dweeb with no identifiable muscle mass and a voice locked in a struggle to the death between testosterone and estrogen, it doesn't matter because you immediately get wet when the football team walks by. You are one of all kinds of girls! Fatties, flatties, art hoes, chunguses, stacies, beckies, and fembots (in no particular order) who ALL WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH CHAD.
>>84090741>No such thing as personality What?
>>84093461He means in the sense of women saying if you can't find someone it's because of "personality".
>>84087905Women will never love you for your personality alone. That's retarded. There always has to be something in there like you being tall or rich or something else. Relationships are transactional. The only person who will ever love you without a condition is your parents. That's the honest truth. And it's all to do with genetics. Girls want the best for their offspring. If you have a big dick, tall, rich, lots of resources, they know their kid will have it to.
>>84087905>Pic rel is so right, I'd rather have my partner think I'm an ugly dysgenic bastard but still date me. She says I have to wear a paper bag over my face and sometimes she moans the name of other guys but hey, she still chose me because I'm nice and funny.God forbid someone finds her partner attractive
>>84093545That's not the point, roastie. The point is that she should choose you for personality. If your looks pleases her it's great, but that should never be the REASON WHY she decided to date you.
>>84093573To be fair maybe she had a brainfart moment and couldn't think of anything on the spot, it's also rather embarrassing to mention specific personality traits, especially in the beginning stages.Compliments on looks are socially accepted and low risk/more comfortable options. It's not like I don't understand the disappointment/hurt and it's not the greenest flag. But I'm sure if he asked her about personality traits she likes she would answer with something with more substance. I apologise if I come across as naive but communication mishaps are frequent early on, it's an important skill to communicate and not just assume you know the full story (in the case of the pic rel OP). Asking for reassurance should be a common practice and if it isn't then that's not your person
>>84093626He didn't ask for a compliment. He asked why she decided to date him. She could have said because he had similar interests to her. That is THE most socially acceptable answer ever. Another extremely accepted and meaningless one is "because you make me laugh" "because we have good conversations" "because I like being with you", etc. "because looks" is considered socially unacceptable in this context and women lie about it all the time. For example they claim that the reason they're with chad is "personality" every time, etc.You should apologize for trying to excuse a very strong, very clear "red flag" but also pretending every woman isn't like that.
>>84093626yeah the dude is extreme but i get iti have had multiple long-term friendships with girls i have rarely or never seen over the years and yet felt very emotionally vulnerable in and i wonder what you would think of that?i thought each time that at the very least i was disproving the idea that it's all superficial and based on looks
>>84089227Are women just incapable of treating men like human beings then? They treat you like a sex object if you're Chad, treat you like an infinite money glitch if you're a 7-8, and treat you like you don't exist if you're sub-7
>>84093645Well, yeah okay, I see that you're right and agree with you. I'm sorry for trying to excuse this but I'm not sorry for believing not every woman is like this though.>>84093680Well for friendships looks don't matter.In a romantic sense, I guess I can only really speak for myself. Looks do matter to me, I am superficial. In a sense of: If I find a guy actually unattractive/repulsive, it's just not going to work. This doesn't mean they need to be chad. Just not an actual 3/10. Pic rel is my typeBut good looks will never excuse a shitty personality. I need to feel safe and respected, some shared interests and humour. If we hang out and the only good time I'm having is when I look at you, that's not going to work. Looks can be a dealbreaker but not a dealmaker.
>>84093747>But good looks will never excuse a shitty personality.You believe this, but this is not true. In practice, you will excuse any bad personality on the basis of looks. You are programmed that way.
>>84093759Are you good looking? If yes, you're right Daddy <3Seriously though, feels like no matter what I say it wouldn't convince you anyway. I just hope one day your capacity for love will be reciprocated and she truly sees and accepts you for who you are, just like any of you deserve. Until then, tell yourself whatever you need to move on I guess
>>84093747You say that but I have a feeling what you think is a 3 is actually a 6
>>84089227>TRVKE bomb! Boooom, hahaType normally you beta faggot
>>84093821>Seriously though, feels like no matter what I say it wouldn't convince you anyway.Correct. Importantly I believe that you believe what you say. At least it is how I observed the girls I've dated to be as well and I was convinced that they weren't kidding when they held these beliefs, despite how much at odd it was with their actions.
>>84093957I'd also rate every guy on a dating app low because they have nothing in their bio and are normie fags. >Posts car that doesnt even belong to him>Half face selfie>Some rolex>2016 snapchat filter>I like travelling, good food and wine>420>Dogshit gym mirror selfie with an expression that makes him look constipatedAttractiveness isn't only looks. Coming across a real 3/10 in terms of looks is rare. Luckily the men with similar interests as me look exactly like my type. Nerdy, glasses, looks like he could be your neighbour, hoodie, soft eyes. If you wanna consider moot a chad then sure, go ahead
>>84094139The rating was based purely on looks based on select pics so that things like pic quality has no effect. Cope and seethe roastie.
>>84094164>cope and seethe? how does this affect me in any way lol I'm not a victim in this
>>84094189Clearly it's made you stark raving mad given your posts so far lmao
I don't get OP. So he wanted his date to not care about looks? What about her looks? Did OP care at all what she looked like? The fact that he posts on 4chan should be a hint that he shouldn't overestimate his inner beauty.
>>84094218No, he wanted her to say she dated him because they had shared interests or she liked talking to him, or she liked his personality. You know, things that make a person. The poster is pissed because actually women only care about looks and nothing else, and because nobody likes his personality actually. Personality is, as the name implies, what makes a person after all. Not looks.
idk but i wanna have sweaty argument struggle snuggles with the fembot in this thread
>>84094325there's definitely women out there including several i talk to who aren't superficial like that but i understand the resentment towards the shallowness in our modern culture
>>84094379So the core problem for the anon in OP is that he made the wrong assumption that femlosers can't also be shallow normalfags. The expectation gap is what caused the reaction. The question we all have is: how can we find these women who aren't shallow? Even those that have our hobbies seem to majoritarily be like this.
>>84094404>Even those that have our hobbies seem to majoritarily be like this.Your first mistake was to think they actually have passion for the things they claim to find interesting. They use things like anime and games as an aesthetic to make themselves appear different, but it's all an act. You won't connect to a foid by liking the same anime, you dumbass.
>>84094487>Your first mistake was to think they actually have passion for the things they claim to find interestingTo be clear, I learned the hard way that you are exactly correct. I made the statement you quoted to explain to onlookers what the overall logic may look like>You won't connect to a foid by liking the same anime,Your thinking is backward regarding the topic of discussion. Nobody is talking about adopting a hobby to find women, but rather of having a hobby, and women claiming to have the same hobby not caring whatsoever about this supposed connection (for the same mechanistic reason as point 1, of course).
>>84094487What do women actually like then?
>>84094487>Your first mistake was to think they actually have passion for the things they claim to find interesting.Because of their brain structure women have broad but shallow interests. Men go narrow and deep.Femautists can go a little narrow and deep.
Women will tell you to treat them like individuals and not generalize them and then proceed to not act like individuals and prove every generalization true.
>>84094404>how can we find these women who aren't shallow? Even those that have our hobbies seem to majoritarily be like this.Ignore the other responses to your postI gotta get out and live life tho i am going somewhere with a friend lolBut yeah how to find them is just remember WOMEN ARE HUMAN BEINGS just like you and to treat them like human beings and not project a bunch of shit on them or try to manipulate them with some secret trick that you think is a cheat code for sexBut yeah where to find them; volunteer, co-ed sports, anything artistic, reading clubs, obviously sometimes alt subcultures etc. and you have to get out of your comfort zone someGood luck
>>84094785>Your thinking is backward regarding the topic of discussion. Nobody is talking about adopting a hobby to find women, but rather of having a hobby, and women claiming to have the same hobby not caring whatsoever about this supposed connection (for the same mechanistic reason as point 1, of course).I think you misunderstood me. I was implying that connection for foids aren't built upon similar interests, hence why you can't connect with them through shared interests like you can with guys.>>84094809Chad>>84094819Hmm, that might be true actually.
>>84094908Exactly this. We're told not to treat women as a monolith despite the fact that we do so because they observably behave as one.
>>84088911Then why do so many evil Stacies have men crawling all over them?
>>84094934>WOMEN ARE HUMAN BEINGSFOID PROPAGANDA SPOTTED
>>84094934>Women are human beings just like youThen why don't they act like it?
>>84094974>I think you misunderstood me. I was implying that connection for foids aren't built upon similar interests, hence why you can't connect with them through shared interests like you can with guys.I will repeat this back to you: I am saying that the topic does not imply a man trying to connect with a woman, but a woman explaining how she is supposedly connecting to a man. So it is not "you can't connect with them" but "they can't connect with you", at minimum, although I suspect that when you start thinking in the correct relational direction, you might want to add other things.
>>84094934But the problem in OP is PRECISELY that OP saw a woman as a human being and she failed these expectations. This is the thing that, I think, you fundamentally don't comprehend about men. We are not projecting magical properties upon women, we are projecting OURSELVES upon them. How WE think and how WE feel and how WE evaluate them.Why do you women only agree to date chad and pick up artists, and refuse to date people with actual interests and likes and dislikes, while making the statements you do make?
>>84095095Ah, my bad. I was the one who misunderstood what you were saying.
>>84088911this is retarded cope most guys would fuck a hot girl if given the chance. we all have superficial tendencies.
>>84095317No. Maybe half of men would, but not much more than that. Additionally, none of that matters when talking about a LIFE PARTNER.
It's normal to agree to an initial date based on physical attraction, with a view to developing deeper feelings based on less superficial factors. It's normal to be attracted to your partner and those feelings develop sooner because they are emotionally uncomplicated. Sometimes you don't develop that further attraction and how you choose to proceed with the relationship can be a moral decision, but it is not a moral failing to want to go on a date with someone who is attractive to you.
>>84095398But they didn't just randomly meet on a dating app. They interacted and talked and shit before they ever dated. The dynamics are different.Also it is not normal to want to date someone purely because they're good looking, no. It's normal to want to have a chat with this person in hopes that the person is not just good looking but also interesting.
>>84095430>Also it is not normal to want to date someone purely because they're good looking, no. It's normal to want to have a chat with this person in hopes that the person is not just good looking but also interesting.A date
>>84095486No, a date is one step beyond a chat. You could say it's a deep chat rather than just a chat. But it's also an experience.
>>84094211hmm no I'm just a sperg and like to write very detailed opinions
>>84093726>Are women just incapable of treating men like human beings then?To women men aren't like them; real people, men are worker ants, they bring home the bacon, protect them, die in wars, hopefully have a big dick to replace her 7 inch dildo
>>84087905How many times a week are you gonna post your shitty "totally real epic greentext story"?
>>84087905Marge I'm confused, is anon upset because his girlfriend is attracted to him?
>>84095917No, he's upset that she's only dating him because of his looks and height.
>>84087905I think she said that because it's the kind of compliment she'd want to receive. Women love being complimented on their appearance. If a woman asked why you were dating her and you said because you share interests and you love her personality without mentioning that you think she's pretty, she'd probably break up with you.
>>84095917It's okay to be confused, Homer.
>>84096077Unironically true. Women are the shallowest creatures in existence.
>>84087905I would react the same way honestly, that's why I am a khhv volcel despite having been approached "romantically" by several girls in the past, I don't want a relationship that holds on physical appearance
>>84095693>To women men aren't like them; real people, men are worker ants, they bring home the bacon, protect them, die in wars, hopefully have a big dick to replace her 7 inch dildoyou are now here
>>84088683Men are forced to be like that since women are largely uninteresting and those who are are just girls like OP
>>84088683Because women expect to be complimented on their appearance and get mad if you don't. See >>84096077
>>84089227>we are all in the same shit boat.>tall, good looking, complains like a bitchwe are not in the same fucking boat you normie piece of shit, fuck off
Women are never beating the hive mind allegations
I really, really wish bluepillers were right. I wish looks and height didn't matter. I wish being nice was all it took.
>>84097954Nobody ever said being nice was all it took. Ever heard the phrase "necessary but not sufficient?"
>>84097954The world would be better if they were right about everything. No wonder they choose to delude themselves into believing their own lies, their world sounds so much kind and fairer.
>>84098286I know, right? Could you imagine a world where looks really don't matter? Where height is truly irrelevant? Where the "ick" doesn't exist? Sounds like paradise.
>>84098468i'm so glad i opted out of the dating pool and never have to deal with any of whatever you all are talking about.
>>84098486"The ick" is what women call it when they reject a guy over something arbitrary. For example:>I got the ick when he said he likes anime>His taste in music gives me the ick>He was a little too emotional and that gave me the ickDumb shit like that.
>>84098561Important note: Chad overrides the ick.
>>84097954The world would be a lot better if it was the way delusional optimists say.
>>84087905There's nothing wrong with desiring physical attraction, it's in our biology, the same way a woman doesn't want to date an ugly incel is the same way men don't want to date a fat old hag>But you can control your weight unlike your height and looksBiology doesn't care what's in your control or not, biology only cares what it wants to have sex with.
>>84099193Only deranged holes could have possibly made such a retarded post lmao
>>84099207>Only deranged holes could have possibly made such a retarded post lmaoI have a penis and hairy balls, you're the retard that thinks there are women on this board. You can't handle the truth which is why you're a retarded faggot.
>>84099220Not just retarded, but clinically retarded. Well done.
>>84088010>foid moment is admitting she likes handsome men>moid moment is admitting he is a pedophile and into bestiality
>>8409357399% of men have utter dogshit personalities lol, the humor of a 10 year old and retarded political takes, its not womens fault that literally all men have to offer is either Chad looks or money. Dont bother trying to personalitymaxx because as a moid you suck ass by default.
>>84099282Only 90% of men have a meh personality, while only 5% have an utter dogshit one (yet, 100% of women have an utter dogshit personality, and they exclusively go after the 5% of men who have an utter dogshit personality).
>>84099274What the fuck are you talking about you boob?