Is it hard to get a boyfriend from another country? Are there any places I should look? I hate the UK so much, I don't want to spend another second here but it is not easy to move unless you have a very good job and of course, the EU is barred due to Brexit. I am spergy and ugly and unfortunately look British but I'm thin, take care of myself and do not do drugs, smoke, drink, and never even kissed a guy.I'd be happy with any man at this point regardless of where he was from and I don't want to use him, I wouldn't get with the first ugly bastard I'd want to genuinely love him, but god would it be nice to meet a German or Frenchman, I think their accents are cute anyway but I really can't stand another minute here.
Come to Hawaii
>>84096965>be slag >vote to 3rd world your country up >try to leave to do it else whereStay in the hell you created. Go marry a nice Muslim man.
>>84096965>never even kissed a guyAre you like 12?
>>84096965You can come to America but you'll have to do the 90 day fiancee program and marry in pretty quick to stay there. Probably the best country to go to
>>84096975I wasn't even a teenager during Brexit.>>84096986No, I'm 21. I went to an all-girls secondary school and didn't have any friends outside of school. My college was mixed, but I didn't talk to anyone and all of my jobs have been female dominated with no men around my age.
>>84096965>ugly and unfortunately look British do you have the council estate slag phenotype?
>>84096965The irony behind this post is OP thinks r9k is still a white board.
>>84097022We're you able to get your dating license
Does he have to be from another country? I'm from the uk and i'm planning to leave because it's a shithole but i'm getting dental work done first. I don't have a job and i'm not explaining how i can move without one on here. I'm probably autistic but undiagnosed, skinny, short, not ugly, don't do drugs or drink but i have smoked for a long time hence the dental work and also i'm a khhv wizard. If i just wanted sex i'd have already paid for it. I wouldn't mind just traveling with someone for safety platonicaly if you want to see other countries a bit before deciding where you like and if it gets romantic then fair enough.
>>84097057I forgot i'm white and from scotland.
>>84096965Would you be willing to come to Canada? I might be willing to let you green card scam off me as long as you don't mind doing some chores around the house.
>>84097067>and from scotland.why?
>>84096965>but god would it be nice to meet a German or Frenchmanwhat about dutch
>>84097082I just picked the wrong server and now i'm trying to hop
>>84097032Not a slag, just regular British ugly.>>84097055I can't tell if this is a loicence joke or actually a thing>>84097057I wouldn't mind. If I could choose I'd prefer a partner who didn't ever smoke but begars can't be choosers. >scotlandAh I'm in the South. >>84097092I really don't mind, just any kind of European. There are countries and people I have romanticsed more than others, but at the end of the day they're just fantasies that probably wouldn't hold up.In the end though these are all just 'ifs' and will probably remain as a fantasy. I don't think I have the courage to start dating, let alone leave my family behind (plus I'm very sheltered and behind in maturing). I'd always feel bad for practically using a man despite honestly loving him and not being good looking to 'repay' him as a girlfriend or offset that.
>>84096965I was exactly like you, mediocre looking and very autistic. I met my boyfriend on discord, and as pathetic as that is we're at the point where we're sure we'll marry eventually.Meeting dudes online means when you start talking you don't have to worry about the way you look or your posture or mannerisms, they get to know you completely unfiltered.
>>84097097where do you want to hop?everywhere is fucked in its own way
> wouldn't mind. If I could choose I'd prefer a partner who didn't ever smoke Wish i never did desu.>Ah I'm in the South. Point is we'd be leaving so it doesn't matter really. Where would you want to go first though i haven't decided yet for myself. I've heard good things about italy france portugal and spain from relatives. Been to poland and that was great.
>>84097139Bra size and an accurate description of what you look like without bra will definitely help you get guys interested.
>>84097139>Not a slag, just regular British ugly.that doesn't tell me much, I've lived in England for a long time now and when someone says British ugly I can only think of the council estate underclass with fucked up teeth and looking inbreddo you have any hobbies or interests?
>>84097141Are/were you also from the UK? Do you plan on leaving?
>>84096965Would you do anal though? Important question
>>84097141That's really sweet and I'm glad for you anon, I hope it goes well for you two. I don't really talk to people online or use Discord, I've always felt I would be bothering someone if I messaged them first and since I couldn't see their face or hear their voice there wouldn't be any tells. I'm weirdly better at socialising IRL than online because I tend to rely more on body language and tone.>>84097179157cm(ish), 40kg(ish), 32A but I haven't been fitted in years. My chest is pretty small. I'm not entirely non-crazy, I have had anorexia for a long time and still am underweight but I've largely overcome it and now focus on eating UPF free food and keeping a low sugar intake. I still worry about eating sweets or large portions but I'm nowhere near even half as neurotic as I was about it as a teen.>>84097198I just don't have good features, I got a passport photo done yesterday and I am honestly a 3/10. Asymmetry on all of my features, a wide fat face and just not pretty features in general.>do you have any hobbies or interests?Just nerdy things. Music composition, art, photo editing, games, anything animated, and baking.
>>84097223>I'm weirdly better at socialising IRL than online because I tend to rely more on body language and tone.NTA but i'm the exact same. Phonecalls and videocalls are a little better than text but it's still awkward compared to face to face. You have really low self-esteem if you think you are bothering people by messaging them but i've been there too.
>>84097223not saying that I don't believe you, but people usually judge their own looks harshly in comparison to others. I'd say that I'm below average, but I've been told that I'm not ugly>Just nerdy things. Music composition, art, photo editing, games, anything animated, and baking.Nice, do you make your own music? What sort of art? I like to draw sketches and thought about getting into animating myself. I like to cook from time to time but never tried baking.
>>84097203American, but yeah i'm getting out of here.>>84097223Thank you! I completely understand being afraid to reach out, normally I'm also that way but i guess i was too obsessed with him to care lmao. Best of luck to you
>>84096965I guarantee this is the tranny who won't stop spamming about the uk
>>84097304I don't think so. I think i have talked to them before from /soc/ once based on the way they type and the complaints they have. I don't want to dox people though so i never bring it up.
>>84097304>>84097310I don't mean i have talked to OP. I mean i have talked to the trans who keeps starting UK complaints threads.
>>84097223>I got a passport photo done yesterday and I am honestly a 3/10post a nude and ill fap to you
>>84097274>You have really low self-esteem if you think you are bothering people by messaging them but i've been there too.Sort of. I'm pretty confident usually but when it comes to genuinely trying to make friends or fit in I just can't do it. I've always been an outcast and spent years ignoring things like the idea of ever dating or trying to look nice because I didn't think it would ever apply to me.>>84097295I did post myself on /soc/ rate me threads a few times and largely got 4-6/10s. So, not as bad as I say, but those were decent photos and weren't fully transparent, like I had the sides of my hair covering how fat my face is and held my jaw open a bit.>Nice, do you make your own music? What sort of art?Yeah, mostly game-style music and art of my characters. You should try animating, I tried before and couldn't get to grips with it but it's fun doing little animations. I'm the same as you but reversed, I bake but can't cook much. Shouldn't be too hard as long as you follow instructions, though?>>84097298Thank you, and best wishes!>>84097304Yeah that's not me. I usually reply to others threads, this is the first thread I've made on this board.
>>84097360>spent years ignoring things like the idea of ever dating or trying to look nice because I didn't think it would ever apply to me.I did the same. Only recently that i started caring. I have a low appetite and i never put much effort into eating but now i'm eating more. I wouldn't necessarily trust any 4chan rate threads but if you got 4-6 there then you're average at least.
>>84096965What's uniquely awful about the UK compared to any other first world country?
>>84097360it's still a decent rating, maybe you're also exaggerating how wide your face really is>Yeah, mostly game-style music and art of my characters. how would you describe game-style music, is it like retro 8-bit style? cool, what kind of characters? I always preferred drawing landscapes, I'm not that good at drawing people or animals but I can draw decent portraits>You should try animatingI did spend lots of hours making stickman animations back in high school, but that's a far cry from serious animating, I would like to learn how to make animations similar to old anime style from the 80's and 90's>I'm the same as you but reversed, I bake but can't cook muchmy only experience with baking was making shortbread ages ago and it was pretty good. I worked a few years in the kitchen and it's honestly not as hard as it looks, if I can do it anyone can
I've lived in a few different countries, and I have to say - when I was there at least, things have changed a lot in the last few years - slightly rural towns in the north of the UK are some of the comfiest places I've ever been. Find a place with a Cathedral (a technical city) and a population of 30,000-100,000 and try living there for a few years. - The UK is small enough that everything is still just an hour or two drive away - You don't HAVE to turn on the TV or radio, ever - Away from bigger cities, the UK is still mostly high trust and overwhelmingly white. I still think vaguely think about moving back to those small towns every now and then.
>>84097453I know it sounds vapid and selfish, but to me, it's just a very depressing place to live. I am from an especially awful area, but even when going into nicer areas, there's still a combination of factors and I can't afford to move to them anyway. The cost of living here is so high, but unlike other expensive Euro countries the benefits are not there. It's grey, it's cold, it's ugly. Going outside and seeing the kind of grim, soulless architecture and housing like in picrel honestly hurts my heart. Then there is the aspect of the culture itself. We're known for ugliness (and I am not exception to this), bad teeth, bad food, 'chav' culture... even if some of it is in jest, I genuinely feel ashamed to be associated with and embody such ugliness. I try to create distance between myself and that way of acting, but it still affects me; litter everywhere when I've heard about how other Euro countries and people emphasise cleanliness and good mannersl, said chavs everywhere and unpleasant to be around and deal with, obviously every place has their bad apples, but the amount and impact they have in the UK is insane. I know I sound incredibly snobbish and ungrateful and I apologise but even something as small as going to the store, dealing with these kinds of people and driving home through my area just made me think 'I don't want to live here'.
>>84097502>>84097502Maybe, but I also have the problem of my features being too small for it. Hopefully my cheeks hollow out with age at least.>how would you describe game-style music, is it like retro 8-bit style? cool, what kind of characters? My style was mostly inspired by Touhou as well as other games. Ironically most of my characters are inspired by English folklore because I'd feel weird taking from other's cultures. What do you like to draw landscapes of? Real places? And anyone can learn art with practice, but I get it's frustrating.>I did spend lots of hours making stickman animations back in high school, but that's a far cry from serious animating,That sounds like a good start, I think you're downplaying it a bit. Granted I know little about animation but I think if you've got experience with animating movement, once you're better at drawing people and animals making something like old anime would be a lot easier.>my only experience with baking was making shortbread ages ago and it was pretty good. I worked a few years in the kitchen and it's honestly not as hard as it looks, if I can do it anyone canI hold the same view towards baking. Honestly it's more just because the only things I eat regularly as basic like pasta so I've never needed to learn to cook proper dishes. But then, I suppose baking isn't something essential so you can't be blamed for not being great at it.>>84097507I'm lucky enough to live in a town like this, but in the South-East. However, many of my issues with this country (behaviour and attitudes, grim areas) are still here if not amplified tenfold because, nice as it is, my town bsaically is one nice high street and cathedral surrounded by some of the most awful places.
>>84096965I fucking hate England too. Awful here.I too wanted to marry a man to escape but it didnt work out
>>84096975You're talking to a man, you retarded mixed race nigger. Get lynched kek
>>84097723Why didnt it work out? Why arent you trying again?
>>84097713do you have a discord account or something where we could continue talking?I like that we have similar interests and it would be cool to get to know someone new
>>84097683>>84097723Cringe self-hating cuntoids. Be proud of your culture and people. I love my norf gf and she loves (English) England.>t. AmeriGOD with rights and the ability to greencard a foid
>>84097683Fully get it, I'm English male and hate this shithole. IT'S OVER.
>>84097818>gets taxed>knives banned>churchbells tooYou can be proud of your ancestry but despise the government you know? It's actually the most british thing.
>>84097823>IT'S OVER.As Sam Hyde said, FUCKING FIX IT. Vote Restore and get out of mum's basement faggot
>>84097829Restore is already cucked by isreal. Nobody cares, more controlled decline no matter who you vote. Bet my life savings on it.
>>84096965Shit, I am also like this but im American. I hate my country so fucking much im so mad I wasn't born in euro. I am considering marrying to get a green card too it seems easier at least I hope
>>84097825>despise the governmentNot what the first sloot was saying.>>84097843>my life savings300p? Noice
>>84097858What was she saying.Only 3 bob btw not so rich as you english
>>84096965>>84097723what is up with you useless people waiting to marry a man for your life to improve? go and make the change yourselves
>>84097829We don't have basements dawg.
>>84097890I mean it's fucking easier. Immigration processes are too hard no wonder everyone illegally immigrates
>>84097902True i'd do it if i could get away with it. Both marrying in or sneaking i mean. I'll just have to invest i think unless i find someone when i'm traveling.
If you're still around OP, I'm french, though not ethnic french if that's what you're looking for
>>84097818Yeah she loved England so much she found an American and fucked off to America, and can you blame her? There's no fucking culture here it's bollocks.
>>84097804I don't have a Discord. I can make one if you'd like, but will probably do it later because it's almost 3am. Also aren't they adding ID based verification? I won't make one if I have to cough up my real ID in a week.>>84097890To be fair, I have done my best to improve my looks and work on my shortcomings. Where I'm from can't really be helped.
>>84096975mashalalah the white foid must pay imperialism reparations with her putput
>>84097943NTA but you're probably better making a throwaway email for contacts on here.
>>84097943>I don't have a Discord. I can make one if you'd like, but will probably do it later because it's almost 3am.yeah that's why I wanted to swap contact info, I made a quick email you can message me onquickthrowaway111@protonmail.com>Also aren't they adding ID based verification? it's just ID verification for accessing nsfw crap, I'm not planning on giving out my ID to anyone any time soon
>>84097994Thank you. I'll be in touch within the next day depending on how busy I am when I get up.
>>84098008alright, I'll talk to you later, g'night
>>84096965what would u rate urself from 1-10?
fuck off my board dumb foids
>>84097922She isn't going to show bobs and vagene, streetshitter.
>>84097922>I'm french, though not ethnic frenchWhat do you mean by this
>>840980614-5 depending on what criteria. I'm very thin and have long hair but I just have an awful face, fat and round with bad features. I'm short, my chest is quite small and I don't feel comfortable or attractive enough to be dressing as femininely as other women which could deter some men.
>>84098088Means he arrived in France 6 weeks ago and is trying to get a rubber boat to England
>>84096965I bet you have a million offers by now but I'd love someone that actually wanted to get to know me and not use me. for context I dont mean financially; a lot of the people i've been with have used me for attention and were the ones that tried initiating sexual stuff more often. Im not going to act like im not a horny mf at times but I've turned down two of them when they offered to send me money to fly to them. I wouldn't mind talking to you, thought I wouldnt get your hopes up too much either
Imagine in an alternate universe where an incel could make a thread like this and have woman from around the world wanting to be with you even when you've all but admitted you just want a ticket to another country and they don't even know what you look like KEK fuck you
I DARE you to respond to me foidBut we both know you won't, you're just hoping some rich Chad hanging out on r9k comes along to save you like some knight in shining armour KEK
I TRIPLE DARE YOU foid
>>84097930>there's no fucking culture hereSimply not true. Tea, bikkies, scones, Sunday dindin, full ynglush brekkie, pies, beer, cider, classical theater, classical music, peak western literature, all of modern military tactics and logistics, a significant portion of all science, technology, and math discoveries worth a damn, some of the best universities on Earth, and cozy living. Or how about Lord of the Rings, Warhammer, or RuneScape, all of which still hold major influence in popular culture to this day. If it weren't for the endless influx of the 70 IQ brown hordes coming to defile the place and its people, it'd be splendid.>BOOHOO THE WEATHER IS BADGrow the fuck up. At least address the real issue your country is facing.
>>84098208its men who give women the advantage thoughbeit
>>84098283I don't give a fuck about any of that besides LOTR, my life is shit. Fuck England and FML. Let the fucking browns have it. I don't give a rats cock about the future of this dogshit island.
>>84098283Your missus clearly doesn't either or she would have stayed here and had kids with an ugly English cunt.
>>84098322>doesn't give a fuck about WarhammerMay Mohammad take you as his 7th wife.
>>84096965i taught english in japan and met a few guys, one of which has been long term. Idk about non asian countries though.are you also white, op? im assuming also fem lol
>>84097930>There's no fucking culture hereYeah, there is. The culture of hating everyone around you, of fighting, of drinking, laughing at the misfortune of others, making jokes that are thinly veiled insults, eating horrible food, being nasty to anyone different
>>84098322>Doesn't even bother replying>I'll take anyone>Hates a certain raceYeah fuck you, you deserve to be taken over by Muslims. You people are genuinely trash that, despite being all the way in a ditch, still look down on others. lol jfc I'm really fated to fuck around with pathetic sluts that will fuck anyone rather than give me a chance at a normal life fuck this
>>84098424I'm not the fucking foid OP mate just hijacked the thread is all. And it was a stupid fucking thread at that. Pretty sure she is the tranny.
>>84098437Yeah I wouldn't be surprised. Either way fuck this world. We're all just looking for something real but women only have the capacity to care for you when you provide some sort of active value to their life at all times
>>84098424And you know what? I'm so fucking lonely at this point I'd probably suck her tranny cock given the chance.
>>84098464Aye it's over desu I'll be roping soon enough.
>>84098490You don't understand how bad it is. I've had a girl tell me that "you expect me to care for your issues as much as or almost as much as mine and I can't do that" They literally don't hide the fact that they want some sort of father figure but then preemptively accuse you of wanting a "mommy" when all you want is a caring person. It's disgusting
>can i get a bf-one gorzillabilliongillion replies>do femanons likepage 8 in four minutes. you people make me sick.
>>84096965How do you feel about America? about Americans?
>>84098471Why are you lonely? Dont you have friends, family, or a relationship?
>>84098413Ah, I know who you are. Ywnbaw
>>84096965The uk is much better than fr*nce though much prettier too
>>84096975>nice Muslimkek
>>84097955muslims are imperialist too
>>84096965I would bring you to america but im not rather fond of engerland and its inhabitans
>>84098534You post in>hai silly boyz :3threads to insult anons who beg for pussy. I post in them to talk about Warhammer. Both of us are retarded.
>>84096965If you're in Devon or Cornwall then there are foreign gentlemen nearby.
>>84096965I'm French not living in France. You can use a work-seeking visa to stay up to 9 months and if you find a job you can stay long enough to get a PR so it's all good.I am also not ugly, balding, fat, or anything like that.What do you want from me and what do you offer in the relationship?
>>84098886You're a nafri, you don't know shit. Go move there and never come back.
So glad I married a foreign man.t. Brit fembot
>>84098377White and female, yeah.>>84098437>>84098464I'm the OP, not a troon. >>84098579It seems to have a lot of the same issues as the UK if not worse, but America is huge and very diverse in types of the kinds of places and people. I don't have anything against Americans, some are very weird and foreign to me but I'm sure those are just the extremes that are highlighted online because they're freaks.
>>84099228>What do you want from me and what do you offer in the relationship?Not much really. I do have physical traits in men I prefer (eg dark hair, not too roided) but those are petty things I'm hardly fussed about. I would ideally want a man with common interests and someone who wants to just go out and do little romantic things with me like dates at a cafe, going on walks together, etc. I probably wouldn't be comfortable with anything sexual until we got to know each other better which is probably a turn-off. Someone who's my level of retarded; I am more inclined to look for someone who's a bit spergy and outcasted because I think we'd get along more, I thought about trying Hinge but everyone on there seemed so normal I didn't think we'd have much in common. I wouldn't hold any 'weird' traits against a man unless they were genuinely disturbing, I just want to find someone who is on my wavelength.As for what I offer, admittedly not much. Already gone over my failures in the looks department; I still take care of myself, but yeah I'm not good looking and would feel bad lumping a man with that unless he matched my look. I honestly can't say if I'm a good conversationalist because the only people I talk to are my family but I would try to get to know you best as I can as long and if we did start a relationship. Like to think that I'm quite polite, tidy and the only 'ick' I have is uncleanliness. I like making sweets for others and getting people gifts which is probably a 'masculine' urge but I think it's cute. These are all stupid points and not doing me any favours but I really don't know how to describe myself.
>>84099847im also 21, male, white australian, virgin, skinny etci think english accent is cute for the most part unless u have one of the weird ones like leedschuck us ur contacts
>>84096965>just let me find a man from another country on 4chan and let me moveAre you mentally ill? Who would pay for the moving you or would you want the guy to pay for it considering he would have to shelter you for the first year or so while you can not work a job. Most men in france and germany are poor because of the system here (average pay in germanpoor is 55k before taxes i.e. 3k after taxes and rent alone eats 1k away). If you are serious about it (which I doubt) you would need insane luck and won't find some good looking guy. Post a pic of yourself and we can see.
>>84099928Sorry, I think you misunderstand. I wasn't asking to find someone like this on 4chan, I was asking in general if there were any other specific places, like dating sites. I have 20k in savings but this thread is just something I there out there out of curiosity. I wasn't being serious nor do I don't expect anything to happen, it was just a daydream. >post a picAgainst the rules, don't want to get banned.>>84099896Like I said above, I didn't make the thread with the intent of anons offering up themselves to me, I just wanted to ask if there was a specific place to look for this kind of relationship so I would feel guilty unless you genuinely wanted to talk. Is that okay?
I wish I could save a fembot but I can't offer the lavish, exciting lives they want.
>>84099866I have diagnosed asperger's, match the physical preferences you listed, am definitely an outcast, and agree with your overall stance regarding getting to know each other before anything more being critical.I am probably not your level of retarded, though.I am usually the one who gives and never receives, so I think it would be very nice to have some handmade sweets or similar sometimes.Do you want to have a chat? What do you use?
>I do not do drugs, smoke, drinkholy fuck how boring can u be
>>84100572>I am probably not your level of retarded, though.Shame. I wouldn't go out of my way to talk to someone unless I was sure we were on an even playing field mentally. Sick of being humiliated and talked down to or only being spoken to out of pity.>What do you use?I tend to stay away from social media but I have Twitter and Instagram.>>84100595I don't know where I'd even get drugs and there's no reason for me drink when I'm by myself. Don't need alcohol to have fun and it doesn't taste nice at all. I think people who smoke and do drugs are a bit retarded honestly. Yeah you look so hard hitting that bright pink bit of plastic and smoking pot from a crusty bong. Faggot.
>>84100836>no reason for me drink when I'm by myselfThat's the best place to drink.>don't need argumentYawn.>everyone's retardedGreat point, Mohammed.>thinks you consume drugs to look coolJust say you're a teenager and pipe down, kid.
>>84100836I don't have twitter or instagram, I can do email or discord.If you are actually dumb then there would be no match. But if you just mean you aren't reciting the digits of pi as part of your morning routine (basically what people mean by this in my experience) then there is no problem on my side. However, I was accused of talking in a condescending way before. It's just because o f the natural way I talk due to the assburger, and is entirely in the observer's mind, though.On the other hand, I love sharing things I know. For example if I see you trying to cook on an electric cooktop by putting the temperature on low, I may interject to suggest you put it higher to preheat more efficiently before lowering to cook, or other similar things.
>>84100867>Yawn>Just say you're a teenager and pipe down, kid.Why do you type like a 90s movie bully? Lmao
>>84100147>Sorry, I think you misunderstand. I wasn't asking to find someone like this on 4chan, I was asking in general if there were any other specific places, like dating sites. This is a chatgpt question then.
>>84100885Why do you act like a 90s bully victim?
>>84100913By saying I don't drink and think drugs/smoking is stupid? Not my fault you got offended by an opinion.
>>84099928>Who would pay for the moving you or would you want the guy to pay for it considering he would have to shelter you for the first year or so while you can not work a job.I did that and would do it again.
>>84100920Not just stupid, but pathetic. Go to bed, kid. This isn't the place for you.
>>84096965i hate the uk toobritish """people""" are so unattractivei genuine can't think of a bigger turn off than a british accent
>>84101064You having a meltdown over my opinion makes you seem like the immature one here. Really can't understand why you've taken such offence to it. Bizarre.>>84101154I think our accents are better than most American ones at least. I don't know why they talk like that, but you can say the same for us.
>>84101183truly pathetic, kid
>>84101280heh.. whatever you say, kid.
I'm tired of talking to girls from here and them ending up being euroids. The only way we can be together is for me to legally marry them and open myself to diviorce rape, and even seeing eachother just to get to know one another is difficult unless you're rich. It's just a waste of time. I wish we had flags on this board so I can ignore them.
>>84096965>>84097022>>84097139how about Canada?i don't smoke or drink or anything; maybe we can watch peep show together
>>84100920>>84101183don't listen to him i kinda think that too lol like if u gotta take some substance to be an interesting person wtf is wrong with ubut there's a lot of different types of ppl here it's kinda like a dive bar for lonely souls
>>84101697Cucknada is the worst country in the world bar none. Cucknadians are the lowest of the low. Even poojeets are superior (same race in the end, cucknada is like 50% jeets 50% chinks at this point).100% of cucknadians are narcs or bpd. You are literally not human.
>>84101801haha buddy you don't know shit until you've actually been here; several canadian cities are actually rated in the top 20 in the world as far as destinations and livability although there are definitely social issues, affordability, corruption etc. but in terms of natural resources and open space there's a lot more opportunity for growth than Europe, especially Britain
>>84101926I lived there 25 years. It is literally, and I mean LITERALLY, the worst country in the world, with the worst standard of living. I have been to a bunch of places before and since. Literally manaus, in the middle of the jungle in brazil, has better earnings to costs ratios, better infrastructure, better food, better people, better quality of life at all levels. There is not a single good thing about cuckanda, but the worst of it is that cucknadians are the reason cucknada is the worst country on earth.
>>84101943haha there's some good places in south america for sure and weather can be an issue in canada it's the main issue in fact but people will talk shit about everywherethe ironic thing is that canadians like NotJustBikes and the urbanist youtubers will try to say Canada should be more like the Netherlands or Europe but ppl here are shitting on Europe as well so I don't really know what you want
>>84102095I moved from cucknada to sweden and quality of life is literally night and day. I also earn 30% more than I ever earned in canada, and I used to earn top 0.45% in toronto. Of course it's a bit of a special case also, but the thing is, even if I earned just median, I'd do better here than I did in canada on top 0.45% salary in toronto.
>>84096965Do you live in the Northwest by any chance OP? I live not far from Manchester, if it matters.
>>84102213Is that actually true. Although Canadian professionals earn peanuts compared to their American counterparts they typically earn more than Europeans and I can't imagine taxes being lower somewhere like Sweden. Is earning more in Sweden specific to your profession?
>>84102213>I moved from cucknada to sweden and quality of life is literally night and day.Yeah Sweden is better in a lot of ways than Canada and probably being able to travel within the Eurozone is really nice. I don't disagree with what you're saying.I think Canada is superior to the USA in many ways but it's kinda a low bar to clear especially these days and the way Canadian's entire image is sort of a self-aware inferiority complex is pathetic.So no argument there. But for someone British who hates her country I had assumed Canada might be better than Sweden due to the culture and language but maybe I'm wrong lol.
>>84102318Taxes are a bit higher in Sweden, but barely at the same income level, and I get much more generous tax deductibles in Sweden than I get in Canada. When I say I earn 30% more, this is net. In gross I earn something like 40% more.I will once again repeat that I'm a bit of a special case. There was a reason I was paid top 0.45% salary in toronto (I am not the median worker), and the same applies in stockholm. But a fast food worker here can afford to live in a 1br apartment and even save enough to eventually buy a small apartment, and move up as equity builds. In Canada I was never allowed to get a mortgage, I was told I had to not only earn that much but also stay in the same job a bazillion years (I had a 880 credit score) and even then I would have been barely staying afloat with the amount they were requesting.Earning more is profession specific, yes. Basically all low-skill jobs earn WAAAAY more in sweden, and some high-skill professions but not all (like mine) earn a LOT more as well. Other professions are a mixed bag. I believe doctors earn quite a bit less in general for example.>>84102339My brother left Canada for the US (lives in PA now) about 10 years before I was in a position to run away, too. By the time I was ready, US companies no longer accepted TN status and only wanted H1B for some reason. My brother has a house and a high paid job, and is on his way to a green card. He thinks life quality is also much higher than in Canada and never had any thought of coming back. It doesn't mean much, i.e. could be his own biases, but I wouldn't think off-hand that Canada is better than the US in the absolute at least.
>>84102533>I wouldn't think off-hand that Canada is better than the US in the absolute at least.okay his experience is interesting but the very fact that 'medical bankruptcy' is a thing in the USA and the average person can't afford a $500 emergency and it seems to be run by a megalomaniacal fascist clown carnival is offputting for a lot of peopleI am pretty sure that in the past year and a half a lot more people have been going from the US to Canada than the other way around, understandably so after a literal invasion threat that hasn't ever really been dealt with properly
>>84102533>But a fast food worker here can afford to live in a 1br apartment and even save enough to eventually buy a small apartmentyes I am aware of that; that's why Sweden is superior for a lot of people but some cities like New York and Seattle are trying to catch up in terms of minimum wage but there's just so much ingrained in the toxic Capitalist American culture that it will require the Baby Boomers finally dying out and losing their grip on power and resources and leadership
>>84102565fun fact norway has no minimum wage
unironically, just stop hanging around Deanos and chavs. There are other people in Britain.
>>84096965>Is it hard to get a boyfriend from another country?Yes They are in another country. It is quite difficult. Unless you and your boyfriend live close to the border of two Schengen countries.
I'm looking to get off this island too. Of course I'd miss it should I end up in some barely-functioning third world country, but really things here have become so bleak and so dismal.
>>84102565I know there are some little debate gotchas that policy wonks quibble over between Sweden and Norway but the idea of a liveable wage and the distribution of wealth is much different in the Nordic countries
>>84103283>but really things here have become so bleak and so dismalWhere else are they better? Canada and America are the same.
>>84103403i think you misunderstand how bleak the uk islike the us and canada have issues but those are huge diverse centers of the west with unlimited options within your own country. in cunts like italy spain france you have beautiful weather and views to distract you a bit. in cunts like the nordics you still have the most prosperous societies in the world. in the uk you have the worst of both worlds. its decaying and theres little benefits aside from being first world.
>>84099230Whiter than you mamadou. Proof is, france is such a shithole even you went back to africa.I fucking despise this country. I hope putin nukes it
>>84102213Your larping lmao you said finland in the last thread. Canada mogs shitrope into oblivion. You have no idea what youre talking about.
>>84102652>>84102565Sweden has no minimum wage either.
>>84103769>in cunts like italy spain france you have beautiful weather and views to distract you a bit.Kek no france is much uglier than the uk you have no idea
>>84102555I wouldn't know. I know americans often talk about going to the US but the numbers never show it. Also I know that:>The Ipsos poll found that 42% of respondents would go to the U.S. and personally pay for more routine health care if needed. That is up 10 percentage points compared with January 2023.>From 2017 to 2021, Canadians spent as much as $2.3 billion on out-of-country health care.>it's estimated that 63,459 Canadians received medical care internationally in 2016
>>84103875Not everyone in the world is the same person. I have never talked about finland for obvious reasons, I've never been there.
>>84103403I think it's probably because I'm from here, and from nowhere particularly desirable, and have seen the changes over the past few decades and can't really stomach any more.It's true that the population is growing, which must mean it is a desirable place to live! But no, the population is only increasing due to the vast influx of third world men working low wage jobs. British culture has for the most part retained its good manners, dry humour, decent sense of fairness, and so on. But look at the state of housing (smallest newly-built houses of all European nations), the depressing wage deflation, the grim life-sapping weather, the fawning for boomers, the dilapidation and hollowing out of the high street, the sheer and blatant illegality taking place on every high street (turkish barbers, etc), the degraded state of the working class, the diminishing prospects of the middle class, and the declining relevance of the old upper crust who until recently still managed to retain their status as a kind of advertisement for what Britain once represented (to an international audience at least). Turn on the telly and a third of the actors will be Africans, turn on any show and you'll see much the same. British culture is now a vile mixture of American influence pop nonsense, historical revisionism serving the ethnic replacement agenda, and the stupid old prole nonsense (football, puerile stand-up 'comedy'). The music most celebrated is now produced by ethnically ambiguous droogs rapping in some kind of african dialect. Our women are fat, our men are slovenly, they are all covered in tattoos and their pleasures are fast and easy. As far as I'm concerned the entire project can be heaved into the sea and the island left for the deer, the sheep, the cows, the forests and such. The British empire has contracted to such a harrowing extent that we are now even strangers in our own country, pushed aside by those who won't even care to remember we were ever here.
>>84104065Read Orwell's essay "England Your England". As a foreigner living in this shithole, Englishness is something I think about a lot because the feeling of being foreign and out of place has basically defined my life. I think the fundamental issue is what Orwell says about English people not really adopting world views or ideologies which was probably a very quaint aspect of Britishness back in those days. After ~100 years of spiritual, moral and intellectual decline, however, I believe that it is the single biggest factor consigning this island into the dustbin of history. The modern Englisher turns 18 and immediately sinks into a stagnant pit of mediocrity and considers anything outside of it some kind of personal attack by a hostile alien force and I believe this affects literally everything here. It's not Little England anymore, it's Global Britain that is competing with every other race and people on Earth. People who are driven by nothing and fight for nothing except a miserable comfort will never accomplish anything and are doomed to be left behind which is already happening and it's obvious to see if you actually live here. All forward momentum ran out a very long time ago.
>>84104136I agree with your assessment. I've seen a little of other countries, and as far as I can tell in Western Europe at least (and even Eastern Europe, from what I've inferred by meeting people from there) is that Britain is almost uniquely tawdry, unglamorous, slovenly, lazy, ugly and run-down. The weather of course doesn't help, but there are other nations in Europe with similarly bleak weather whose culture compensates for this.I knew someone from a very poor Eastern European country, and even there, where the average salary is a quarter or less than it is here, there is still a sense of community, a desire for elegance and beauty, a sense of common decency (e.g., lack of littering, respect for elders and one's environment, low tolerance for public displays of indecency). I fear that in Britain, the thing that perhaps made us enviable at some point in history, namely our high standard of interpersonal conduct and general sense of understated emotional displays, not to mention the quaint, conservative upkeep of public spaces, have pretty much all gone to the dogs. We've become a nation of ugly, slovenly, materialistic, tacky chasers of cheap, short-lived pleasure, which has only served to make us fat, lazy, indifferent and lacking in any refinement. I don't see anything in the way of culture here, besides fast food and the various ways in which it can be marketed and sold. It makes me so upset, I can barely go outside any more without feeling depressed and out-of-touch. I see the type of houses people my age are buying and they are so tiny, cramped and unhomely - I compare this to the type of houses/apartment people have on the continent and they are like crack dens in comparison. People are genuinely working 50 years to pay a quarter of a million pounds or more for these cramped, often damp, often noisy little squats, often only to find another new estate of equally foul homes being erected in a neighbouring field.
>>84104338Yup. I'm an Eastern European and Slavs really do just have a dynamic vitality about them that Anglos of all kinds just lack. I know I sound like I just hate the English, but I'm only feeling these things because sometimes I get a glimpse of what this country used to be and it is seriously able to bring me to tears when I think about how much has been lost. I live in Devon which is probably the closest place on Earth to paradise and you can still see the greatness that was here when you walk around small Cornish villages or look at Victorian architecture. What can I say? I'm just incredibly bitter that this is how it all turned out.
>>84104371Do you see yourself here long-term?The girl I knew from Eastern Europe grew up in poverty pretty much, or at least in a family where money was far tighter than in any other family I know, and yet she came here and was so disappointed that people neglected themselves (particularly women, whose obesity and general lack of self-care was abhorrent to her) and that culture was so lax here that children were coddled and their rudeness tolerated, that people would binge-drink and then gorge on fast food and sit on the ground etc. We were very different people, but I admire her (and the slavic culture she came from; her female friends were similar to her) for having such high standards and expectations. It was sad to hear someone from such a poor country express her disillusionment with Britain, which I guess she hoped would resemble Harry Potter or some other image of the country implied by movies etc she had seen. I've watched videos of her small home city, and though it's poor there is no littering, the people are dressed respectfully, and if that city was transplanted to Britain I've no doubt people would flock to live there.I really don't know what will turn things around, or whether this is a past version of Britain that would be worth emulating or treating as an example of when things went right. I fear that the class divide, the industrial era architecture in poorer areas, the weather, the complete abandonment of any taboo or social shaming, has pretty much condemned us to inevitable decline.
>>84104065>>84104136>>84104338>>84104371I'm the OP and you've both summarised it perfectly. I just look around at the sense of decline and the kinds of housing there is, the towns I live in and the people around me and it's like, do I really want to work for this? Is this all there is? I get that my proposal of wanting to date a foreign man to leave comes off as self-serving and entitled but unless I don't see any sort of future here. I don't want to hate my own people but being associated with this ugliness both in the land and the people really gets me down and by now I just want to distance myself from Englishness as much as possible. It'll never fully happen because I'll always be a Brit by blood but at least if I moved and tried to integrate things might be a bit better.
>>84104429>Do you see yourself here long-term?Nope. I'll finish teacher training, work for a bit so I have some valuable western currency and gtfo to sink or swim with my own country. Not like I could afford a future here anyway as a single weirdo incel loser, a dual income is basically the minimum you need to survive. Lol so funny part is that there's actually quite a few bums in Poland when I go back. Had some dishevelled, unwashed motherfucker in a tracksuit come up to me saying things like "eyyy man you got a moment? I wanna talk to you" as if he was gonna try to sell me drugs or recruit me into a gang in broad daylight outside a shop before some old lady passed by and told him to fuck off. The point being that I get harassed by people less here in the UK but I mean on the flip side, things just work better over there and you can feel a light happiness in the air, like everything will turn out alright. Honestly, I don't think they will either there or here, but whatever. Fact is that I don't belong here and I've already decided that English matters are for the English to decide for better or for worse.
>>84104465>I get that my proposal of wanting to date a foreign man to leave comes off as self-serving and entitledI don't really think so. At least you're honest about it. What grinds my gears is the people who just refuse to accept how fucked it all is while constantly whining about it and you even see them on 4chan. British men date foreign women all the damn time, do what you want.
>>84104465I know the feel, thoughbeit I'm a decade older and a moid at that. I sense that some kind of national revival is stirring in the minds of a lot of people at the moment, the overthrowing of the two party system pretty much reflects that. But really, I feel that unless there is some kind of radical large-scale revival, and a massive of investment of energy and enthusiasm of British people down to a local level to sort things out, then really I don't blame people for wanting to jump ship. It's probably not worth settling for crumbs and a little corner to grumble away in. Personally I've started travelling a bit and the change of scenery is very refreshing, even if issues like high rent / house prices are common across Europe at this point. The prospect of plodding on for so little in return is a ghoulish one, and I don't really blame you for wanting to pull some foreign laddie in order to get out of dodge before you're resigned to it all. The grimness of Britain is a particular kind of grimness, and at times it has its charm, especially when displayed in a kind of darkly humorously, self-abasing, lachrymose way, but when the irony wears off all you're left with is a cold train platform full of dregs and discarded beer cans and an expensive ticket in your hand to go back to a town you'd rather see the back of.
>>84104489I wish you well, brother. For what little it may be worth, I know of a guy in my area who had a Polish (immigrant) wife and kids, and they decided to head to Poland rather than keep swimming against the tide here. They now own a couple of houses, have a bit of land and have no intentions to return.
It's genuinely depressing to see the UK turn into India 2.0. I thought it was a nice simple place where people drink crumpets and tea, but now it looks like Killing Floor but instead of specimens invading Britain, it's indians and brown "people"
>>84096965What other country are you thinking of? I agree the UK is kind of shit, but I feel it's not too bad if you live in a decent area. I feel most countries are getting worse anyway, so I may as well stay somewhere I'm familiar with and not have to deal with xenophobia.
>>84096965You like Asian guys?
>>84096965unless youre a 8/10+ this isnt happening men arent going to flock to date a femcel just bc she wants to leave
>>84097829You are so new here. "As sam Hyde said!" - corniest shit ever.
>>84104504Yeah. If there was something I can do to help improve the country, I'd volunteer in an instant but outside of small things I've done for my community like litterpicking and volunteering at animal shelters (which hardly counts as helping), there's little one person can do.>>84104538Agree with all you've said. I've seen people brand others who leave traitors and yeah, you can't argue with that, but we also get one life and spending it here if you can go somewhere else is ridiculous. I want my country to be a great place to live for the English people, but at the same time there's not much one person can do alone and if nobody near you shares the sentiment, why stay on a sinking ship? It's not a grand fantasy novel where the average person is expected to hold their kingdom's interests first and act for honour, the average person just wants a nice life that seems increasingly unobtainable here. >>84104601I'm not sure. Most of mainland Europe or Anglosphere countries would be great. But another thing I am conflicted on is say I did meet a man, I loved him, he loved me, I moved out to be with him. I'd feel bad being an immigrant and imposing upon the host country. I'd absolutely integrate, learn the language and try to engage with the community but at the end of the day, most people don't like foreigners and I don't think there's a problem with that but I wouldn't want to be looked down upon or as an outsider. >>84104618Probably not. By and by large I am only attracted to white men but the more natural Asian men (not the botched effeminate kpop guys) are handsome. My family aren't even racist I just think becuase if I did date outside of my race, I would be the first in my immediate family to do so and it'd just be a bit awkward.>>84104658You're right, was just wondering about it.
>>84098088>What do you meanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZHwGnGrm_k
>>84104781>Most of mainland Europe or Anglosphere countries would be greatI'm not sure those countries would be much of an improvement overall, especially Anglo countries. Maybe Switzerland if you can afford it or Scandinavian countries? But it's not like Scandinavian countries don't have their social problems, and the climate might be something to think about too. I guess it really depends on what you're looking for specifically though? Roads and public transport in the Netherlands are great compared to the UK, but they have a housing crisis and their healthcare sounds terrible according to a relative of mine.>I'd feel bad being an immigrant and imposing upon the host countryYou don't have to feel bad about being an immigrant if you actually contribute and respect the local culture in my opinion. Just as there are people moving in, there are people leaving, so migrants are needed because people just aren't having enough kids!>most people don't like foreignersI'm not so sure if it's accurate to say that. I'm Asian and I went to Romania one time, and I honestly felt very welcomed even as a tourist. Even in the UK, I feel mostly accepted. I think if you find the right places, you'll be fine.>but I wouldn't want to be looked down upon or as an outsider.I don't think you should waste your time on people who look down on you just because you're an immigrant though lol. They have such a narrow worldview that may not enough make sense. Being an outsider is not entirely bad either. I am friends with some Europeans, and I feel I do play a role in how I bring a completely different vibe to other Europeans.
>>84104781are you seriously hoping for a white bf in this thread or nah?
>>84103769I don't understand this delusion that there's nowhere nice looking in the UK. and nowhere ugly in mainland Europe.Like, Paris is quite literally just a slum at this point.Plus, people who harp on about architecture are morons who are missing the forest for the trees. A nice environment is simply an environment with good people in it. Nothing else matters.There's nothing less appealing than superficial wealth adorning scummy people. If you want to be friends with Andrew Tate, you do you, but people of substance are laughing at Andrew Tate.
>>84104904>Maybe Switzerland if you can afford it or Scandinavian countries?I've thought about them and have a little bit of money saved up (though not much). Every country has its pros and cons, but I have trouble thinking that any conditions that are worse than the UK will outweigh the benefits. >Just as there are people moving in, there are people leaving, so migrants are needed because people just aren't having enough kids!Thanks. I'm just a very inward person so when it comes to joining something without being invitied I wouldn't want to be there if I was not welcome.>I'm not so sure if it's accurate to say that. I'm Asian and I went to Romania one time, and I honestly felt very welcomed even as a tourist. Even in the UK, I feel mostly accepted. I think if you find the right places, you'll be fine.True, I suppose it's just a matter of if that welcoming attitude would extend to living there. Glad people accepted you in the UK though. Despite tensions right now I would hope that if someone genuinely respected the customs and worked they would be treated with respect.>I don't think you should waste your time on people who look down on you just because you're an immigrant though lol. They have such a narrow worldview that may not enough make sense. Being an outsider is not entirely bad either. I am friends with some Europeans, and I feel I do play a role in how I bring a completely different vibe to other Europeans.Yeah it's not like being different is inherently bad, I just worry that I would be ostracised or fail to fit in with the one group of people I want to integrate with.>>84105023No, Just wanted to see if anyone else had similar experiences and if they did, how they found their partner and if it was hard. It was made on a whim, I didn't expect anything to come of it.
>>84105202Shame, I'd be open to edating with the goal of moving a girl to me
>>84105258It's not like I'm averse to dating someone from 4chan (if anything we would probably have more in common) but I didn't make this thread with that intent, just asking. I still don't have the confidence to do something as small as set up my profile on a dating app so anything serious would be quite far off.