>God will never leave me nor forsake meBetter is the end of a thing than the beginning thereof: and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRXDYvpA020
>>84153239What if you kys? Don't suicides go to Hell?
>>84153289Dying unsaved means you always go to hell, dying saved means you go to heaven. Old Testament people like Samson or Saul who died by suicide went to heaven. The "suicide = hell" thing is a meme catholics invented for some reason, probably because their congregants tend to self-harm (the surviving tradition of penitensya in the Philippines for instance (similar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagellant)) I wouldn't recommend taking any doctrine from catholics or jews in general.
>>84153480>Proof for Saul being in heaven1 Samuel 28:19 "Moreover the Lord will also deliver Israel with thee into the hand of the Philistines: and to morrow shalt thou and thy sons be with me: the Lord also shall deliver the host of Israel into the hand of the Philistines.">Samson being used as a positive example in the New TestamentHebrews 11:32 (referencing hero's of the faith) " And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:"
>>84153480>>84153495Okay but then why wouldn't someone just kys to go to Heaven early? And hat about chapters like James 2?
>>84153573Made a typo>what about chapters like James 2
>>84153573>Why wouldn't someone just kys to go to Heaven early?Philippians 1:21 "For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain."For a variety of reasons, but for one:We can only please God on earth. We can only have faith on Earth.>Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.To hammer this point in, Hebrews 11:1 says this >"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." When you're in heaven, you'll see God, that's not faith. Another commonly cited point is that Murder is a sin (suicide is self-murder).>Thou shalt not killPractically, it's just harmful to your family, friends, unnatural from a biological perspective, and a waste of all your future ability to influence the world. >James 2 James 2 is the one part of the bible catholics know to reference, the application to works salvation is destroyed by verse ten, combined with the reference to Rahab the harlot as an example later in the chapter. To be clear >James 2:10 'For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.'If you combine a single bit of works with faith, you better keep the entire law, if you make one break in the law, you're combining something sinful/ imperfect with Christ's sacrifice. It's pretty cheap, and it's why the bible is littered with verses like this.>"Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:">Isaiah 64:6 "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.">Galatians 5:9 "A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump." Even Cain's sacrifice vs Abel's is seen as a metaphor for this, Abel offering what was asked for (the animal sacrifice) vs Cain's effortUnsaved people should start with John.
>>84153765If the salvation thing wasn't clear, here are another 5 >Romans 4:5 "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.">John 3:15 "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.">Galatians 5:4 "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.">Titus 3:5 "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;">Luke 7:50 "And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace."
>>84153799posted 3:5 instead of 3:15 by accident >John 3:15 "That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."The water in this verse is the water of the womb, you can tell this because John 3:6 is >That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.Water => Born the first time physicallySpirit => Born again spiritually (salvation) I know there's probably an argument for this meaning baptism out there, I thought I'd address it, since I posted the wrong one (it still supports the initial argument, given Faith => Salvation = Born of the Spirit/ Born Again)
>>84153239Anyone here thinks "I'm 100% going to heaven" sounds a bit arrogant and up your nose a little?
Why is Jesus the messiah?
reminder that nobody cares about your book club. nobody cares about the alleged "divinity" of some schizo jew
bumpiezs
>>84154955Because He delivered the human race a way to be free from the ultimate consequence of sin, He fulfilled or will fulfill all the OT and NT prophesies concerning the Messiah.
so if I was born an illiterate chinese peasant in the 1400s who had never heard of the god of the jews and died to some random bullshit would I still go to hell?
>>84156599Absolutely. Should have been luckier, retard>>84156555>He>He>Heyou're capitalizing a pronoun nigga, what are you doin
>>84156555>fulfill all the OTSuch as?
