I made a thread yesterday about how i was talking to a girl and she just randomly ghosted me.. she had never done anything like this before.. I dunno why her mood shifted, I know she's diagnosed with depression but not treated.. but still, she was so happy last week, telling me how excited she was to go to a restaurant, or the conncert she was going to have.. is there anything I can do to make her feel better? What are the chances she does this again?
>>84157458This is common, especially after the initial honeymoon phase. Stay patient, do not double-text, do not hound her about it, simply be there for her without judgment, and full patience.This is her baseline. Get used to it.
>>84157458You have to be physically with her and hold her hand while she lays in bed.
>>84157471Wdym baseline??Is she going to keep doing this??I'm too sensitive to be ghosted like this out of the blue, even if she apologzies>>84157472Kinda hard to do that..
>Begging for a crumb of attention online from some loser chick
>>84157484Why is it hard
>>84157458she is not interested kek, she would respond if she cared"sorry i will try to tolerate you more" - when they start like this its better to ghost
They always ghost i hate woman so much
>>84157484>Wdym baseline??>Is she going to keep doing this??>I'm too sensitive to be ghosted like this out of the blue, even if she apologziesYes, she is going to keep doing this. This is not a reflection of your worth or value to her, it's a reflection of her capacity. If you cannot accept that her battery sometimes gets fully depleted and she shuts down, you are going to get burned out and resent her in a few weeks. Try to inform her, lightly, that it would be really great if she could leave just a hint, just a little "I need to take space for a few days." It would lower her own guilt about it, too.You should not even want her to apologise, you should understand her and be there for her, unconditionally. She isn't doing this TO you, she simply gets overwhelmed.
She instantly replies to chad, just not you, ougi.
>>84157458She's 14, ougi
>>84157496The life of an incel>>84157499We live 4 hrs away>>84157502How can you tell she's not interested?
>>84157522she couldn't text on her phone? something's not adding up
>>84157522dont listen to these faggots lmao >>84157471>>84157510correct
>>84157522You can stay with her and sleep under her bed or in a cage like a dog
>>84157458School as in college or are you a fucking pedo?
>>84157522Never chase them that hard, if he liked you, you wouldn't be able to get her to leave you aloneSometimes these things just run out of steam, the more you force it, the more pathetic/desperate you seem and it turns them off even moreIf she goes cold, find another
Woman dont want men we should just give up
>>84157557thisyou have to play it nonchalantly until you hae them completely on the hook then start making demands
>>84157557I don't mean to seem desprate, I havn't messaged her ever more than twice without her having responded, I just really am a sensitive male and if she keeps doing this I don't think I'll be able to talk with her anymore which is why I wanted to consult this board>>84157556She's 18, but about to graduate school, she failed a year>>84157569Should I ghost her then and see if she cares?
>>84157557>>84157569dumb advice if she is depressed and avoidant and hates herself. she will just assume the worst and ghost harder
>>84157580None of these things are his problem to solve
>>84157579>Should I ghost her then and see if she cares?how to lose her 101 >>84157588ignoring them doesnt make them go away either
>>84157522Because "sorry but i have to get up for school and i hate this" really sounds like a kind of "i will try to tolerate you more" - Some women may not be interested but think they are supposed to tolerate you. Normie women mostly won't, but if a woman is a shut in and not very assertive, or mainly if her parents are abusive, they can be like that."Sorry i didnt talk ... Sorry but i have to go I hate this" - Is fundamentally a way to say that she is treating texting you as a chore that she is supposed to do. At no point does she sound like its something she enjoys too and feels better from doing.Besides, it doesnt add up that she had no time to text the entire time. You'd think she'd try to do something that makes her feel better if she is depressed. Aka talk to you if she cared about you.
>>84157604Wut to do thenIf I try to care about her you guys say she gets the ick and leaveif I play nonchantly I'll lose her
>>84157579you should be more let her know it would be nice if you she could let you know shes in a funk, still strange she couldn't message you in bed though If she can't do that then is she even worth it?
>>84157613The thread already told you, just chat with her normal, she didnt ghost YOU, she ghosted her entire life.Text her, stay light.
>>84157580Ive never been so depressed I couldn't message the girl I was talking to
>>84157604>how to lose her 101 He doesn't "have" her>ignoring them doesnt make them go away eitherAgain, not his problem, especially if she won't talk to him. If she won't respond, what is he supposed to do about it?The actual answer is, diversify your online girl portfolio. Don't put all your eggs into one fucked up, cutting scarred basket
>>84157537sounds like you're the faggot kek>>84157458>you hate meyou sound like a faggot toothats what girls ask
>>84157629thats you then, youre not her.she literally said she was bedrotting. her entire message screams shame and guilt and self-hate. youre just not empathic enough to understand.
>>84157625but still got up for school...guess it wasn't that bad after all
>>84157458Why do guys get so obsessed to the point they will message you every single day constantly?
>>84157637>He doesn't "have" herand if he ghosts her, he never will for sure>Again, not his problem, especially if she won't talk to him.again, if she feels too bad to open discord, its data you cant ignore. if he doesnt want to deal with that, thats his choice
>>84157640yeah because even if I'm bedrotting I would think about messaging the person im talking to, shut your foidbrained ass up
>>84157650All the guys in here screaming about ignoring and ghosting her and how she doesnt like OP, they are all insecure and only know toxic edating.OP, you should write her back.
>>84157650It's called having a conversation
>>84157657you keep talking about yourself like anyone cares. this thread is about op and his talking stage, no one gives a shit about you
>>84157657As a foid, I get tired of messaging every single day even in a relationship. Messaging is supposed to be like asking what they want from the store. It's not supposed to be your primary form of communication. This is why LDR's/edating don't work. I need to see the man because hands weren't made for talking
>>84157657As a foid, I get tired of messaging every single day even in a relationship. Messaging is supposed to be like asking what they want from the store. It's not supposed to be your primary form of communication. This is why LDR's/edating don't work. People need to stop "dating" people who live hours away from them if they're not planning to move in soon
>>84157458We're still on about ghosts? I found a way to get that wife ghost up to my room. She runs away from me when I charge at her with my erection like a lance. I corralled her into my room. It was an immediate reaction. She stopped dead and I penetrated her, as much as you can penetrate a hologram, and ran face first into hubby's floppy dick, as much as you can run face first into a hologram. Turned around and she was livid. I'd only seen her weeping but she's so hot when she's mad. Came buckets instantly right into hubby ghost's ass. Good stuff. He was jerking about on his ghost rope trying to leave and the vomit encrusted beauty realized he was trapped. She savaged him OP, really gave him what for. Unfortunately, ghosts can't die apparently. So now I have a mutilated naked big dicked ghost hanging in my bedroom. Sleep is difficult at best. I refuse to give in. The poisoner will not win. This house was so cheap it's still worth it and frankly I'm in love his wife. She's back in the kitchen now. I think time works differently for them. She doesn't seem to remember she can leave that room so I still go down there for faps every day. Her tits are so big man.
As a foid, I get tired of messaging every single day even in relationships. Messaging is supposed to be like asking what they want from the store. It's not supposed to be your primary form of communication. This is why LDR's/edating don't work. People need to stop "dating" people who live hours away from them if they're not planning to move in soon.
>>84157689Stop spamming it, my connection is fucked up and I obviously didn't mean to dp
>>84157613Disclaimer: I am an incel.But my honest advice would be to try to see if she really is a depressed shut in and show interest in her. Do not say "do you hate me?", this puts pressure on her. Act like she's doing nothing wrong and show that you care about her, ask about how she's feeling since she mentioned she is struggling, ask about how her day went every day, etc.This way what you would do is basically maxx your chances based on a realistic understanding of the possibilities here. If she is not interested, then nothing will work. If she is interested, she will not get the ick due to you caring about her. So try to be assume she is interested for a bit more, who knows, this way if she really is just avoidant and a shut in, then she will see that you are not mad at her for it and are there for her. But ghost if this doesn't get better.
>>84157698You into dp bb? I'm a genetic abomination I got two functional dicks. Let me double up on you.
OP dont ghost her but let her know depression and bedrotting isnt an excuse if it happens again, if she can't respect or does it again ghost that bitch>>84157669Keep crying you lazy whore, it takes no effort>>84157679As a man, I know foids have major problems doing very simple tasks like communicating, you should really try and do better
>>84157698Youre cool wanna edate?
>>84157706Spoken like an incel that spends all day on 4chan and has never had a long-term relationship.
>>84157705There's no way older than 18>>84157706Keep edating and crying about getting "ghosted" then, kek. Your ideal relationship would be never seeing each other in person and that's sad
>>84157716>There's no way older than 18I am twice 18 as a matter of fact madame
>>84157458Don't listen to redpill incels, just ask if you can pay her rent this month for her and her bf to show that you are good friend and she will come around, or maybe not, you aren't entitled to her time or attention after all
>>84157706>let her know depression and bedrotting isnt an excuse if it happens againidiot, there are two possible scenarios here, either she is interested or she isntif she isnt interested, an ultimatum cant possibly help and will only drag on this shitty relationship by making her feel pressured to tolerate the OPif she is interested, saying that can only make her less itnerested
>>84157715i am an incel and much higher IQ than that guy, incels are savvy and know whats up, we just dont have good looks. look at my advice>>84157702
>>84157650Idk, maybe ask her.You act like I was the one messaging everyday.>>84157661I already did, I asked "why did your mood shift">>84157702The "Do you hate me man" was more of a joke than anything.. I was joking around with her and then she ghosted me a lil bit after that>>84157657To be fair, she didn't even post on any of her social medias either.But to go so far to say she was only in bed is a lie.. her steam account was online, so she must have used her pc
>>84157458I love how a decade ago messaging each other and masturbating over the phone would never be considered a real relationship by normal people and now it's like that's how half of relationships start. Wild and sad times. Hopefully her parents take her computer away and start encouraging her to go to church to find a man.
>>84157715Spoken like a coping foid, I have had long term relationships, thats why I know it's a reasonable request >>84157716Im not crying about it, im just telling op the lazy bitch could have messaged him EASILY Now post your cord so I can show you edating and transition that into a meaningful irl relationship
>>84157733>I already did, I asked "why did your mood shift"She told you, she said she was depressed and bed rotting. She isnt lying.
>>84157742Relationships don't start by edating. They just malinger and then end. 90% of human communication is nonverbal.
>>84157740Her mother is extremely abusive, I doubt this would happenHer mother used to beat her when she was a child and is the reason she has an eating disorder
>>84157733>thats why I know it's a reasonable request its not if the other person is extremely depressed and this is the first time it happenedyoure just an old retard still lurking on 4chan because your life didnt turn out the way you wanted, and now you make everyone else miserable too
>>84157749>She told you, she said she was depressed and bed rotting. She isnt lying.Ya, I know thisI guess the question was more "did anything happen for you to become upset"Last week she was really happy, telling me how she was excited to do things
>>84157728if she is interested she will respect that simple request >>84157733Bro, she doesn't have a phone to text you or message you from? How long have you been talking? You see what I'm saying now
>>84157755possibly, Ive never done it, but I think we have something special going on here
>>84157766You also said she was abused. A trauma survivor will sometimes get massively overwhelmed.Be her rock, and you will earn her heart.
>>84157706Ultimatums are super retarded in this situationOP, just send her a message along the lines of: "Hey if you're burned out on chatting thats cool, just hit me up when you're ready to chat"And then leave her alone. If she responds back with a wall of text, cool, shes just looking for attention in you're in the market to give it to her, if not, you're not ghosting her, you're putting the ball in her court and letting her choose.My original point stands, diversify, find others to chat with so you're not dependent on one flaky weirdo for personal connection
>>84157779I guess I'll try>>84157768We've been talking idk how long nowShe doesn't want to tell me her phone number or anything that has to do with her personal info (aside the fact that she told me her first and last name and her city)
>>84157484Ghosting is when they don't respond for weeks. Not everyone is privileged enough to be able to sit in front of a pc or phone all day.
>>84157794What exactly do you provide for her that you feel so entitled to her time desu?
>>84157788>"Hey if you're burned out on chatting thats cool, just hit me up when you're ready to chat"My bad i didn't mean to make give her an ultimatum, just let her know it'd be nice to get a message that she's to heckimg depressed. THEN ghost her judging by her reaction
>>84157801Not reallyShe's a busy girl, and even when she's busy she still made time to try to message meThis is the first time she's done something like this>>84157788I've tried to diversify but I'm trash at it, I have 3 girls right nowFirst one is this oneThe second one is a girl with an even worse track record when it comes to talking (we message like twice a week), but at least she's consistent and does whatever I askAnd the third is a girl who friendzoned me but she's kind of fun to talk with
>>84157794Weird, she could still message through discord on the phone though. If its only been a few months it's not big deal, but just message her something like what this anon said>>84157788
>>84157838Alredy haveAlso, here's one of the things she's written before that she showed me, not that it has any correlation, but I was wondering if you guys would think this a red flag or not
>>84157859So not jealous or professors having to teach gen alpha, prob littering discussion boards with emojis and "genuinely"
>>84157859nothing too redflaggy, seems like typical terminally online speak zoomers do
>>84157859Why did she say nigga? Is she black or latina or just edgy? Also, how old are you both?
>>84157612>treating texting you as a chore that she is supposed to do. At no point does she sound like its something she enjoys too and feels better from doing.what are you supposed to do then?ask her directly?or ghost her? but what if it wasn't a chore and there were other reasons?
>>84157884We're both 18She's latina, just desensitized to saying the n word cause everyone there says it or somethingMan I'm looking at older messages and this girl was really perfect, I don't want to lose herWe had so many interests in common
>>84157884>Is she black No, but OP isn't either and that's why she's losing interest kek
>>84157899Stick with it, give her another chance or two and see
>>84157899again i have zero success with women, i am an incel, idk how much i can helpmany incels would say "its over, don't try", but realistically, i would say be there for her, ask how her day was and if she is feeling better, consistently, without ever again implying that she is doing something wrong or putting any pressure on her. just keep in mind you dont have very good chances, and if after a while she is the same way just ghost jfl you dont want to be some chump who thinks a girl is special and she is texting other guys or doesnt even care about you
Ok Maria I hear you.
>>84157884OP is ougi. He's 22 and the girl he's talking to is 14
lol straight relationships are gayer than gay relationships. you guys literally just sit around all week/month/year waiting for one of these sluts to text you back, and if she doesn't, it completely wrecks you mentally. I just move on and fuck some new boypussy if one ghosts meanwhile you can't even get your dick virtually wet. absolutely pathetic
>>84159131fucking ugly dudes in the asshole isnt the win you think it is
>>84159142you contemplating suicide every weekend while the girl you orbit goes out to fuck better men isn't either, straightoid.
>>84159149the difference is what I said was true and what you said is completely fictional
>>84157458I've had bad depression and understand what she's saying
>>84157458Hey, don't worry, this is something you have to kinda get used to or expect when going for us crazies.I'm heavily mentally ill and also on pretty strong brainfixers medication, and sometimes i don't even have the strength to move my arms when i'm in bed, so i'm just stunlocked starring at my ceiling while my brain inside screams "MOVE" but my body just doesn't respond, those signals just go nowhere.You gotta expect this with us, mentally ill fokes. We are a hassle, we are not easy and we will never be easy, it's called being ill for a reason, and we are a constant problem for someone. Me, i basically ruined my Dad's life by existing, and he still loves me and takes care of me, but it's obvious i'm a lot of extra work to his life that would otherwise be a lot diffirent.If you are going to be dating someone like this, you have to expect this kind of stuff to happen. It will seem like stupid bullshit to you, but to us it's often things we don't want to do, hate ourselves for doing, and they simply happen because our brain and our body doesn't listen to our input.
